feminazi attacks Reddit: "Reddit contain so much anti-feminist sentiment that they even have active communities such as r/mensrights." An attempt to smear and censor us, and to force admins to shutdown this subreddit???

Seicair · 2011-12-13T03:22:32+00:00

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nothing_of_value · 2011-12-12T23:58:12+00:00

I hope this 22 year old is studying to be an electrical engineer. As a Master Industrial Electrician/Intrument Technician for the last 25 years, I have had the occasion to work with many fine female engineers and technicians. I have also had the privilege of watching 9 of my 22 male co-workers raise their children alone with only one receiving any child support. I've known 3 men at my plant who've committed suicide (2 in front of exes) because of the oppressive nature of the family court system. Strangely, I'm not seeing any women doing the same.

drinkthebleach · 2011-12-13T00:14:48+00:00

Men's rights groups aren't actually fighting anything, because there is no system that inherently oppresses men

Family Court?

Hypersapien · 2011-12-13T02:59:55+00:00

r/beatingwomen exists and she goes after r/mensrights?

pcarvious · 2011-12-12T23:17:30+00:00

When someone that doesn't know about a movement can determine based on limited surface reads, that a homicidal maniac is the leader I'm pretty sure more reading is needed.

Gareth321 · 2011-12-13T00:26:08+00:00

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/35h99e/

acolossalbear · 2011-12-12T23:44:31+00:00

AN ACTIVE COMMUNITY THAT SUPPORTS EQUALITY FOR BOTH GENDERS?

I CALL MISOGYNY. IT'S ONLY EQUALITY WHEN IT BENEFITS WOMEN.

AnnArchist · 2011-12-13T09:27:31+00:00

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Celda · 2011-12-13T05:38:43+00:00

Here's the text if people don't want to give it hits:

I was barely six months old when Marc Lépine took issue with the fact that women were fighting inequality and killed 14 women in an "attack on feminism."

Popularized as the "Montreal Massacre," Dec. 6, 1989 marked the day that 28 individuals at Montreal's Ecole Polytechnique engineering school were shot, 15 fatally.

I've not gone a day in my life without hearing about the importance of engineers in our society. My father has been working as an electrical engineer for 30 years now and his passion for it has always been admirable. But from a young age I always noted how few female engineers my father worked with. Sure, he had female co-workers occupying the human resources department and clerical jobs, but there were few female engineers. My dad won't deny it — his work field is a boy's club. It's one of many.

In his suicide note, Lépine said that feminists had ruined his life. 22 years later, though no similar incidents have occurred, I am witnessing large groups of men who really do consider feminism the anti-Christ — and that terrifies me.

Recently around Laurier I've witnessed an effort made to start a "Men's Rights" group on campus. The effort has been led by a non-student who twice hung posters around campus, once without permission from the dean of students and once with approval from the dean of sciences under false pretenses.

The posters paint a picture of a world where feminism, apparently no longer necessary, is a tyrannical force which victimizes men from all angles, from false rape claims to oh-so-discriminatory safe spaces on campus known as women's centres ("But why are there no men's centres?" they ask).

I'm not made of stone. I am not the type to raise a stink over Movember campaigns (because let's face it, the importance of prostate exams has been under-emphasized for years) or to pretend that women are not unfairly favoured over men in custody battles (a result of enforcing stereotypical gender roles on both sides).

However, when I'm asked to pretend that men are an oppressed group in society, I cannot decide whether I should laugh or cry.

This attitude is not limited to our campus; sites such as link aggregation database Reddit contain so much anti-feminist sentiment that they even have active communities such as “r/mensrights.” These men are also occupying the fantasy world where feminism ruins lives on a daily basis.

The unfortunate thing is that there are some legitimate concerns raised by some men's rights activists. Male circumcision and false rape claims are unfortunate occurrences in today's society. The problem is that male circumcision and female circumcision are different issues, yet men's rights activists insist on putting them on the same level. The same goes for the oft-raised issue of false rape claims. False rape claims are not non-existent, but also do not occur at the alarmingly high rate of legitimate sexual assaults. The ridiculous notion that half of rape claims are false has led people to immediately question a woman's claim of sexual assault instead of offering assistance and protection.

The men's rights movement is merely a knee-jerk because some men do not take kindly to the fact that for once, they've been left out of something: feminism. Never mind the idea that men can be feminists and allies as well; for some men acknowledging male privilege feels like an attack when really it's the mere statement of a fact.

Feminism does not fight men. It fights patriarchy, which has systematically oppressed women since its inception. Men's rights groups aren't actually fighting anything, because there is no system that inherently oppresses men.

So how does this relate back to the Montreal Massacre? Well, 20 years ago, 14 women were killed because feminism "ruined" a young man's life. The mere fact that women were studying among men and being given the same opportunities that he had been given was enough to send him into a murderous fury.

While no one at Wilfrid Laurier University is getting murdered, women's right to a safe space and celebration of their gender is being resented by some men. These men are interested in forming yet another "boys club" out of resentment for the one thing we women have that is not male-dominated. How long will it be before another sick extremist fights out against equal rights? Worse off, will it be excused?

dwblind22 · 2011-12-13T10:09:50+00:00

None of the comments on the article can be viewed because they have been flagged for review. ಠ_ಠ

Theophagist · 2011-12-13T11:21:24+00:00

The problem is that male circumcision and female circumcision are different issues, yet men's rights activists insist on putting them on the same level.

Oh my fucking science you petty child.. The best you can come up with is "OH YEAH well it's WORSE FOR GIRLS." So what? All children need protection.. Protecting one does not endanger another.

How long will it be before another sick extremist fights out against equal rights? Worse off, will it be excused?

They never seem to understand what sick extremists they are.

However, when I'm asked to pretend that men are an oppressed group in society, I cannot decide whether I should laugh or cry.

Of course you don't understand, you get your "facts" from liars with agendas. If you can't see, it's because you won't. Too bad for you, because when you don't understand your problems you can't fix them. It's clear she's just a vicious, bitter old self-hating battle-axe.

TracyMorganFreeman · 2011-12-13T01:35:55+00:00

Why are there so few female lumberjacks?

Why are there so few female garbagemen(people)?

Why are there so few women in jobs that don't come with a lot of power and influence?

Celda · 2011-12-13T01:31:38+00:00

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jay76 · 2011-12-13T04:12:33+00:00

She's 21. In my opinion, she hasn't lived in the adult world long enough to form an opinion worth analysing.

I mean that with no malice - it is a complex issue to understand and people have to get past a lot of ingrained values before they get remotely near the truth. She hasn't had time to do that.

The real issue is that she is able to broadcast ill-informed opinions to the entire world.

popanutinmybutt · 2011-12-13T05:04:38+00:00

What's wrong with being anti-feminist? I'd understand the argument if she would say "misogyny", but anti-feminism? really?

Lothrazar · 2011-12-13T05:36:35+00:00

I am as much anti-feminist as i am anti masculinist. It is called supporting equality, regardless of whats in our pants.

SpanishGuy · 2011-12-13T00:20:36+00:00

I am witnessing large groups of men who really do consider feminism the anti-Christ — and that terrifies me.

Well, I do not consider feminism the anti-Christ because I'm atheist and I don't believe in god, the devil and all those dudes. I may say "Jesus fucking Christ!", but you know, it's rhetoric, it's about the myth, as if I name Zeus.

That said, it's true that feminism is becoming more and more like the Spanish Inquisition. So, I understand if Bree Rody-Mantha feels terrified by "a bunch of witches who have sex with the devil" (or something like that), but if she's mentally ill she should seek help.

Now, there are no fantasies in VAWA-like laws. It's raising inquisitors, and they have a cause: Money (not witches).

The feminist "fear" argument is becoming more and more wasted as they abuse it. Soon it won't be an argument at all.

The article is really stupid, but it's yet another proof that MRM is making some people piss on their pants, and it's fucking good that saying the truth makes inquisitors piss on their pants.

BTW: Using the Montreal massacre as a political weapon is disgusting, Bree. You should learn to have some respect for human tragedies.

chavelah · 2011-12-13T02:50:18+00:00

Irritating article, but a victory in a way. This young woman acknowledges some points that didn't used to be "common knowledge."

cherryskull · 2011-12-13T05:25:21+00:00

Admins would never shut down this subreddit due to one feminist with sand up her vag. This reddit group offers too much help and support to the guys who need to come to talk about mens issues and questions, speaking as a pretty strong anti-feminist woman, I find women like this to be strongly part of the problem.

Don't stress about her man hating bullshit, the mods and admins are smart enough to see through her bitterness and crap.

Sarstan · 2011-12-13T01:38:33+00:00

So how does this relate back to the Montreal Massacre? Well, 20 years ago, 14 women were killed because feminism "ruined" a young man's life. The mere fact that women were studying among men and being given the same opportunities that he had been given was enough to send him into a murderous fury.

No mention of how many men have committed suicide from divorce results and general resentment from women. No mention of all the men that are killed each year just for being men (while women are raped in an otherwise similar position).

zaferk · 2011-12-13T01:48:19+00:00

Random uninformed writer who has no clue what men's rights activists care about. Sounded like an ignorant rant more than a legitimate article. I am not offended.

drinkthebleach · 2011-12-12T23:03:34+00:00

Welcome to it.

2011-12-13T07:03:52+00:00

Men's rights groups aren't actually fighting anything

Bitch be retarded.

AnnArchist · 2011-12-13T02:14:37+00:00

We are all now dumber for having read that drivel.

Celda · 2011-12-13T00:09:10+00:00

I posted a rebuttal to her tired "men = privileged, women = oppressed" myth.

ThePigman · 2011-12-13T00:40:49+00:00

A steaming pile of balderdash, from the title to the last sentence.

carbonnanotube · 2011-12-13T05:47:12+00:00

Wilfred Laurier University is literally 1.5km from my door. I am not surprised she talks about engineers, the school I go to, the University of Waterloo, is a premiere engineering school with large math and computer science departments. There are not many women that go here mainly because they either don't apply, or don't have the marks. That is not to say there are no women, but you would be hard pressed to find a bleeding heart feminist in the engineering department.

Laurier on the other hand is a much smaller school that caters to middle of the road marks and runs almost exclusively "Arts" courses. So soft science, business, music, etc.

This poster made my day in one of the UW buildings: http://imgur.com/eyqiE,p9PU6

I am glad our sentiment is different.

2011-12-13T08:18:27+00:00

a captain obvious explanation for outsiders: It's more like we're complaining because some feminists consider men second class citizens. I support gender equality, but there honestly is more mens rights issues than womens rights

oh-so-discriminatory safe spaces on campus known as women's centres

I don't think she knows the definition of discrimination. I'll help her

The unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, esp. on the grounds of race, age, or sex.

I'm not denying that women have been oppressed historically, but just because blacks have been too, it doesn't mean you can discriminate against whites legally

Men's rights groups aren't actually fighting anything, because there is no system that inherently oppresses men.

check the sidebar

BinaryShadow · 2011-12-13T17:46:25+00:00

I bet this is the person that HAS (absolutely MUST) write "the rampant misogyny" as the #1 issue with reddit. Every time this question is asked, this is the top answer. Of course, misogyny means that there's many more males involved in the group than females and not everything is politically correct.

Hardeyhar · 2011-12-13T04:19:06+00:00

Gift these feminazis an inch and they'll go a mile. They're used to getting their way now. Or I guess the more PC word is "empowered."

EndlessEvent · 2011-12-13T06:53:30+00:00

This man was a MRA.
This man shot people up because of his political ideals.

Therefore, MRA's shoot people because of their political ideals.

Feminist 'logic'.

Logical fallacy used: Guilt by association.

I can do this all day!

shane_c · 2011-12-13T06:38:56+00:00

Feminists are hurting their own cause. They make me feel like not caring about abortion rights anymore. Why should I care about their rights, when they don't care about mine?

lesath · 2011-12-13T01:48:09+00:00

I posted a comment on this and it was deleted. Classic feminist censorship of opposing ideas.

carchamp1 · 2011-12-12T23:49:18+00:00

She questions why there are so few women engineers. I'll tell you through example. I put my wife through four years of college to be an engineer. That's four years worth of college tuition and expenses, plus not having any income from her. She got a great job and worked for a couple years. She decided she didn't want to work anymore so she could be a "stay-at-home-mom". When I urged her to work she said if I didn't like it she would take our kid and I could leave.

Women don't want to be engineers that's why there are so few. It's too hard. It's a lot easier doing the "hardest job in the world", you know, be a mom and living off your husband.

End of story.

Syntrel · 2011-12-13T13:45:29+00:00

The unfortunate thing is that there are some legitimate concerns raised by some men's rights activists. Male circumcision and false rape claims are unfortunate occurrences in today's society. The problem is that male circumcision and female circumcision are different issues

WTF! With bigoted crap like this, is it any wonder we oppose feminists?

Feminism does not fight men.

Blatant lie. I guess it was mens rights advocates that pressured and lobbied the government to pass VAWA and see men as defacto perpetrators in any case of violence.

Scott2508 · 2011-12-13T16:56:46+00:00

ok just had a reply back , am posting what needs to be done from the letter and would encourage everyone to reply , but again lets keep in mind we are writing to the editor and not the unhinged bitch that wrote the article.

Hi Scott,

Thank you for expressing your feelings.

If you're interested in submitting a letter to the editor, our policy is listed below:

Letters must not exceed 250 words. Include your full name and telephone number. Letters must be received by 12:00pm noon Monday via e-mail to [email protected].

Best, Linda

2011-12-13T03:30:55+00:00

Fuck feminism! You bitches go get your own reddit.

FoxHound326 · 2011-12-13T16:48:46+00:00

If there is a God, and I hope there is, please incur your wrath upon this miserable, degenerate planet. How long do men have to suffer? Why have you forsaken us with Feminism?

I am so tired of Western women and these disgusting, apathetic, traitorous men, who for the first time I am convinced deserve to get blown up in the battlefield, because they are convinced that killing men half a world away makes them heroes. I say f**k the military. What makes people think they won't turn on us.

I would love to see society go up in smoke. If its anybody holding men back from achieveing true freedom and equality, it's men themselves. Especially in their archaic desire to protect and provide for women, when women want nothing to do with, care nothing for their humanity, and only see them as perishable items.

carchamp1 · 2011-12-12T23:49:31+00:00

She questions why there are so few women engineers. I'll tell you through example. I put my wife through four years of college to be an engineer. That's four years worth of college tuition and expenses, plus not having any income from her. She got a great job and worked for a couple years. She decided she didn't want to work anymore so she could be a "stay-at-home-mom". When I urged her to work she said if I didn't like it she would take our kid and I could leave.

Women don't want to be engineers that's why there are so few. It's too hard. It's a lot easier doing the "hardest job in the world", you know, be a mom and living off your husband.

End of story.

Scott2508 · 2011-12-13T15:52:05+00:00

I have emailed them challenging the article and the bias shown, also the lack of research and the removing of posts, have also complained to the canadian press commison.

buffalo_pete · 2011-12-13T15:38:02+00:00

Posted by [deleted]? What's up with that?

ForMensRights · 2011-12-13T18:10:10+00:00

Gwallan said: The Prime Minister of my country is a woman. The Governer General of my country is a woman. That government has engaged in political interference in data and information collecting processes to enable discrimination against millions of victims. Meanwhile in my country victims of rape are called liars and laughed at by feminist monopolised crisis services if those victims try to get help. Their crime is being the victim of a woman or simply being male.

Would you like to tell one of those victims how feminists are their friends? Or would you laugh at them like your sisters do?

Ren said: I call the legitimacy of those "feminists" into question, then.

I am very skeptical of the belief that feminism runs your country.

Why do you think we don't target them? Believe me, feminists are as hard on "fauxminists" as they are on you guys.

I about died laughing when I read this.

Lokilost · 2011-12-13T19:57:03+00:00

I am confused by the logic here. Just because there are subreddits for something, means that most of reddit supports it? There is /r/christianity and /r/atheism. There are racist reddits and anti racist reddits... All else aside, that alone is confusing enough to discredit it...

Skummin · 2011-12-13T23:21:42+00:00

You notice how she starts her article with "I was barely six months old when-"?

Classic narcissism. Events of the world are defined by how old she was. She is not just the center of her own personal universe, but everyone else should be expected to fit their perceptions around her accounting of it.

That says it all really. It isn't even about men, women, or society for her... it's all about her.

funnyfaceking · 2011-12-16T06:27:46+00:00

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copylefty · 2011-12-13T17:20:53+00:00

Wow what a ginormous fucking hypocrite who is clearly not aware of the facts.

Fuck this stupid two-bit bigot and her whole femenazi attitude. What a rotten asshole.

2011-12-12T23:49:50+00:00

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Stratisphear · 2011-12-13T06:35:49+00:00

To be fair, I go to a university near that, and the guy running the groups (in mine too) is NOT the kind of guy we want representing us. He is pretty misogynist.

Ashali · 2011-12-12T23:50:01+00:00

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emceelean · 2011-12-13T04:14:20+00:00

I think she nailed r/mensrights. And if you read carefully, you'll notice that she acknowledges false rape accusations and family court as legitimate problems.

2011-12-13T05:15:36+00:00

upvoted for truth. also please continue to use words like "feminazi" it really adds a layer of credibility that this sub has been lacking lately

GamerLioness · 2011-12-14T02:14:44+00:00

To be fair, I see a lot of anti-feminist commentary on this subreddit. In fact, the majority of it comes from here. Yet, as negative of an experience as I've had here, I don't think singling out this subreddit was the right thing to do. But I'm just a "feminazi," so what do I know?

It's disappointing to come here and see all the hate against feminists. I don't like being labeled as a "man-hater" or "feminazi," just as you don't like being labeled "woman-hater" or whatever. But apparently it's okay to attack feminists because we "live in a gynocracy" or something.

Maybe you should actively encourage your community to focus on men's issues, without blaming feminism for everything that's wrong in society. I've seen people blame outsourcing on feminism. Seriously, what the fuck?

Please look at things from our point of view every now and then. I don't want to hate all MRAs, but I can't help but cringe when I hear the majority of them complaining about and blaming feminism.

You have to actively encourage your members to adopt a more positive attitude towards women and feminism. That's my advice. Feel free to downvote; I know it's coming.

TheRealPariah · 2011-12-13T03:37:15+00:00

We have our own mods to smear and censor us. Who needs feminists to do it?