Feminists protest against equal retirement age in Switzerland

ThrillaDaGuerilla · 2022-01-18T12:46:02+00:00

When people vote to give themselves money from the coffers....don't be surprised to be required to work longer to keep those coffers full.....thats the real world.

....and to whine when they are being held to the same standard men are , in terms of retirement age, smacks of entitlement and advantage.

The current scheme they have is blatant gender discrimination....and these feminists are protesting to keep that discrimination going, because they benefit from it.

DaLordOfDarkness · 2022-01-18T13:17:11+00:00

Ironic but expected, claims for equality, yet fight against it.

jose12apipa · 2022-01-18T14:32:34+00:00

Since men have a shorter lifespan they should retire earlier than women

63daddy · 2022-01-18T12:27:20+00:00

Feminists shown have time and time again, they don’t want equality, they want advantages for women and they sure do get upset when any of their advantages are threatened.

ABeeBox · 2022-01-18T14:36:23+00:00

It's funny because neither equality nor equity is in their favour.

If they want equality, they have to retire at the same age as men.

If they want equity, they have to retire 7 years after men, or men retire 7 years earlier than women.

Im in favour of men's retirement being earlier and at the same age as women. Not everyone might agree with that but I believe thats a middleground.

SnooPets2522 · 2022-01-18T15:05:34+00:00

They're protesting against equality

Soda_BoBomb · 2022-01-18T15:13:08+00:00

So they want more money but don't want to contribute more, and it's not just the women.

Also though. Women live longer, shouldn't their retirement age be higher?

singularitous · 2022-01-18T13:36:52+00:00

Why not lower the age of men's retirement to match that of women?

Oh, because they're trying to save money, not level the field.

But really if they want to talk about stupid shit like "unpaid work" we should counter back with women's extra 7 years of being alive.

jeff_the_nurse · 2022-01-18T17:27:14+00:00

Feminists: We want to be equal to men!

Swiss government: Okay, heard!

Feminists: NOOOOO! NOT LIKE THAT!!!

OldEgalitarianMRA · 2022-01-18T12:51:06+00:00

This is a union event. That's why 15K people showed up. Unions organize people well.

Women live seven years longer than men so I can certainly see how they should retire a year later. The article talks about how women work part time when they are younger. This would mean they should work a little more at the end to equalize their contribution to the retirement system.

jmcsquared · 2022-01-18T14:42:14+00:00

Jesus, and over a 1yr change. Talk about sensitive...

butWeWereOnBreak · 2022-01-18T16:44:39+00:00

If anything, shouldn’t men be the ones allowed to retire earlier? Across the world, women live longer than men. For married couples, wives outlive husbands by 4-5 years and enjoy husbands’ social security benefits, along with their own pensions. if we are talking about equity, men would be allowed to retire earlier so that they can enjoy the same number of years of retirement as women.

Also, what is there to complain about if people want to equal the retirement age? Women will still get to enjoy retirement longer than men just by virtue of living longer.

PeanutButtHer · 2022-01-18T16:59:55+00:00

You never saw them protesting to lower the mens retirement age, that’s how you know feminism doesn’t care about true equality.

freistaatandy · 2022-01-18T17:52:10+00:00

as for making women work a year longer, this is a non-runner, it says, given the years of part-time and unpaid work they do during their active lives.

If anything, this is why they should retire much later than men, given the fact that, for extended periods of time, they are not in full time employment. As for that unpaid labor, can you imagine men asking for money for playing with their kids, taking them to school, bringing them back home, and doing stuff around the house? Only women can get away with the "I should be getting paid for washing my panties" mentality.

Anon23478 · 2022-01-18T18:10:06+00:00

feminists claim that all they want is equality but then when they actually get it they protest. and people wonder why most people think modern day feminisn is a joke.

CryingMadGirl · 2022-01-18T13:49:23+00:00

Don’t they have something better to do? Like help women and girls in Afghanistan for example

ThePigmanAgain · 2022-01-18T19:55:57+00:00

I would protest too. After all, since women live longer they shouldn't retire at the same age as men -- they should retire LATER! 65 for men, 70 for women, that would be fair.

lord_of_memezz · 2022-01-18T14:25:22+00:00

Tonight on season 3 you will never guess what happens.... lol

Master_Alps1306 · 2022-01-18T15:37:18+00:00

Same thing happened in the UK.

StinkingDischarge · 2022-01-18T16:35:43+00:00

They want equality until they get it.

NeoNotNeo · 2022-01-18T17:03:49+00:00

Seriously what ? Live longer. Retire longer ?

TracyMorganFreeman · 2022-01-18T17:54:07+00:00

>given the years of part-time and unpaid work they do during their active lives.

So they admit they don't work as much, and think they should be paid more for it.

byteuser · 2022-01-18T18:42:00+00:00

women's life expectancy is 5 years longer than men's. Shouldn't retirement age reflect that?

Bald_Bull808 · 2022-01-18T19:52:27+00:00

If anything, men should retire earlier since we die earlier

6ames · 2022-01-18T13:47:23+00:00

I see what you're saying, but at the end of the day a movement who claims equality as a core tenet of its beliefs has no right arguing against maneuvers to bring equality further forward.

However, fuck extending retirement age. Corporations want to squeeze every last second out of you before you drop dead, that's all this is about.

FatFreddysCoat · 2022-01-18T18:16:53+00:00

They did this in the UK as women retired at 60 and men at 65: the change meant women retired at 65 too. All of a sudden they realised that not all inequality was bad.

stupuff · 2022-01-19T00:29:33+00:00

Someone please define "Unpaid work/labour". Because last time I checked, men don't get paid for all the things expected of them in a relationship. Ie; lawn care, yard care, snow removal, repair work, home security, and human forklift duties to name a few... do those not count?

modernmanadvicecom · 2022-01-18T18:29:36+00:00

The core problem is their understanding of equality. It is not given, it is earned.

gnarlin · 2022-01-18T18:46:14+00:00

There seem to be other proposed changes as well but the article doesn't seem to go into much detail there. Is the 1 year raised retirement age the only significant change in the proposed laws? What about going half-half? Raise retirement age by 6 months for woman and lower it by 6 months for men?

oldmach · 2022-01-19T03:57:01+00:00

I'm sorry is no one going to comment on this absolute bullshit?

>given the years of part-time and unpaid work they do during their active lives.

What the fuck are these morons on about? Is there a law in place that forces women to do unpaid work (whatever the fuck that is) and that forces women to work part time? If not, fine, let's write this shit into law. Let's force women to work part time and to do "unpaid work" BY LAW and they can retire early. If we don't do that, the argument is dead.

What about men who do "unpaid work" or work part time? Are they allowed to retire early? I don't think so. These fucking hypocrites literally assume that all women are the exact same and lead the exact same lives. Fuck averages in this case, PROVE that you did tons of "unpaid work" and/or worked part time and you can retire early, men and women alike.

And what the fuck is this unpaid work anyway? Things we don't know how to monetize? Like house work and raising kids? I thought women pride themselves in "taking a house and turning it into a home"? And I thought they want and deserve full custody, no exceptions? So which is it you feminist cretins? And how do you suggest we monetize all this "unpaid work" you think exists? IT DOESN'T EXIST. And even if it did, what about men who do most of the "unpaid work"? Fuck them, right?

Jesus Christ feminism is absolute cancer. Those brainless ideologues can suck a bag of dicks.

Yesyesnaaooo · 2022-01-18T14:53:44+00:00

I don't mind this, as long as once this fight is won the mens is also reduced to 64.

No need to infight over this at all ..

pbj_sammichez · 2022-01-18T19:46:54+00:00

We need to recognize that the protests are not all feminists - there are people involved who just want to protect workers' rights.

Of course, the idea that women deserve to retire earlier because of "years of part time and unpaid work" is just feminist boilerplate. It shouldn't surprise anyone here that women consider any homemaking/chores as work when they do it. Of course, it's our "manly duty" to step up and take on half the housework at minimum (/s obviously...). But it's not unpaid work that results in men deserving to retire as early as women - it's just our "duty" to our partners.

Let's recap: 1) women live longer than men in basically every civilized society (so its not just that men are slobs who don't care for themselves because of "masculinity" but rather it looks like a systemic barrier to healthcare access)

2) In multiple surveys throughout the 20th century, women self-reported higher levels of happiness and fulfillment, with lower levels of stress than men.

3) Therefore, women deserve to have an extra year of retirement.

Wait, what? I think there must be something I'm missing here. A truly oppressed class lives longer, arguably better, lives than their oppressors and then they get to retire earlier. Yup, sounds like feminism is totally needed in the western world. Absolutely. Because women being ACTUALLY oppressed by countries that established islam as the official religion is totally relevant to some gender studies "student" at an american University. The impact on her life is immeasurable!

Sand_Sanderson · 2022-01-18T20:31:02+00:00

"That’s the wrong kind of equality!"

dtyler86 · 2022-01-18T21:59:57+00:00

Yeah it’s funny how men in America March for women’s rights, but you don’t see a man and that March because it’s not for women’s rights it’s because it’s sexist

Silencio00 · 2022-01-19T04:25:27+00:00

Men should retire earlier.

babybabybabybabyblue · 2022-01-18T20:57:49+00:00

Well, guess I won't be moving to switzerland.

jeroeniseenfgt · 2022-01-18T14:58:05+00:00

So that the pension age is 64 for women and 65 for man is fucked up. it feels like your mom gives your sister a cookie, and your not getting one. Except dont protest the fact she gets a cookie, but protest the fact we aint getting one. (im not even swiss, but what im trying to say is dont shit on people who get stuff, but shit on the people who are not handing it out equally)

EnvironmentalWar4627 · 2022-01-18T12:41:14+00:00

This law does NOTHING to help men. At all. It will however have a negative impact on women.

This group should be about helping men live lives as easy as women. Not making women's lives as bad as mens.

The race to the bottom mentality is toxic.

pubgmisc · 2022-01-18T19:32:12+00:00

I'll just leave this here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CGduTEpTgw&t=3578s&ab\_channel=FreshandFit

RagGnarRocky · 2022-01-19T00:36:52+00:00

https://imgflip.com/i/61s0wh

rabel111 · 2022-01-19T01:19:06+00:00

Given the longer life expectancy of women, they should be retiring at an older age compared to men, as they need a longer working life to contribute to their support in old age.

But that would require equity that doesn't add to female privilege, a no no in the feminist state.

wwwhistler · 2022-01-19T01:19:29+00:00

if you spend your life privileged...then equality appears to be discrimination.

Beltox2pointO · 2022-01-19T02:21:50+00:00

Feminists protest against equal retirement age in Switzerland

Where in that article do you gleam this headline from? No where is it mentioned at all.

Henchforhire · 2022-01-19T07:18:47+00:00

Going to be interesting when there welfare goes broke with lack of funding.

JustMrNic3 · 2022-01-19T07:36:34+00:00

Don't want to offend anyone, but...

You must be a piece of shit to protest against equality!

When actually even that would not be fair as men live less and they should retire earlier to have the same amount of years left when they receive the pension until they die.

squawker11 · 2022-01-19T08:37:37+00:00

even though they live longer

Knuckles_Elite · 2022-01-19T10:58:51+00:00

Not really what the protest about though is it

ohisama · 2022-01-19T12:58:38+00:00

The article mentions “compensation measures” for women. Any idea what those are for?

Kumarsratan · 2022-01-19T15:43:39+00:00

So feminist protesting to continue with the so called discrimination?

DavidByron2 · 2022-01-19T18:22:36+00:00

Same as in the UK. Feminists hate equality.

FreedomAnarchist88 · 2022-01-19T18:34:52+00:00

Feminism is about gaining privilege, not equality

EnvironmentalWar4627 · 2022-01-18T12:05:55+00:00

Feminists wouldn't protest lowering mens retirement age to 64. So its not equality they have an issue with.

It's rights being taken away from them that both men and women should have.

If employers lowered all mens pay match women's pay, men would protest. Would that mean those men are against equality?

Createdtopostthisnow · 2022-01-18T14:20:57+00:00

thee hookers look at actually having empathy and love for your husband and family as work.

Its just what it is. I am more of the separate from ZOG hen peckers and get harder than calculus.

Buy a piece of land and defend it.

Flaktrack · 2022-01-18T15:44:06+00:00

Wow what a shit title. They're protesting raising their retirement age. You could ask where they've been on bringing men's retirement age down to meet their own as that would be fair, but they're absolutely nor protesting against "equal retirement age".

ronconcoca · 2022-01-18T15:58:09+00:00

They are protesting changing the retirement from 64 to 65. Why would you want a WORSE situation that you already have?

I would agree with you if they were protesting lowering the men retirement age to women's

DemonizedHuman · 2022-01-19T05:01:08+00:00

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ExiledSenpai · 2022-01-18T22:08:19+00:00

Where in the article does it mention the retirement age for men?

Brokepapa321 · 2022-01-19T00:27:11+00:00

Somehow i doubt that one year difference in retirement is the core of their problems with pension reform. It seems this is just the latest talking point at the negotiation table, locked onto by a media platform controlled by those who stand to benefit from lack of progress on the matter. Then woven into pusillanimous click bait designed to divide those who would otherwise be united against those manipulating the perception of events.

But i sling hash for a living what do i know.

Title	Feminists protest against equal retirement age in Switzerland
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