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How well recieved would this be?

February 23, 2019

I had an idea for kind of an experiment subreddit. Femenists can point the finger and say mens rights is bigotry because nobody thinks twice or does their research, and everybody hails femenism as this great totem of justice and truth (which we all know it isn't). We would be as naive as they are to assume that is impossible to find a common ground or that there aren't any good femenists who aren't insane, and i think when simply offering discourse doesn't work, the next step is a lighthearted challenge; "prove to others in a civil manner why you believe in your ideas."

But what if someone made a subreddit with a name nobody can make assumptions about, and you adveritised to both this subreddit and those like it, and some femenist subreddits to come to this new sub, and the concept of the sub, is that you post direct comparisons of male and female behavior, and each side can comment their stance on why each double standard is/isnt okay. All posts are serious, no jokes, rude comments, etc... Just "i think that a woman can do this, and men can't because..." , "i think a man can do this, and a woman can't because..." , "that is/isn't okay because...".

I think over time it could either fall apart entirely and thats just one more thing everybody can say "look how that went, Femenism/MRAs is unreasonable" or it could actually bridge a gap between us a little bit. What do you guys think?

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Title How well recieved would this be?
Author Eden987
Upvotes 15
Comments 15
Date February 23, 2019 5:35 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit /r/MensRights
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/how-well-recieved-would-this-be.883174
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/atxucw/how_well_recieved_would_this_be/
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[–]DJ-Roukan 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ad honinem is the only thing keeping feminist opinion alive today.

Virtually every "study" done by feminist ideologies has been proven felonious from DV to father's rights.

What better way to prevent scrutiny of such by accusing men's rights activists, who are reporting accurate data, of that which they are doing? They have the press on their side, delivering the hammer blow, men do not, so it works and has worked for a very long time.

A case in point is their argument that 3 women die each week from domestic violence. Sounds horrific yes? Not when we consider that 22 American vets commit suicide each week, 21 divorced, accused dads, that 91 men die each week just doing their jobs.

How they roll, how they misinform, how they have been.

Then the Gillette ad surfaced, and everything changed as over 40 million men spoke out.

[–]the_annoying_one1 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I really like this post not just because it defends mens rights but also because it purposes that there is a common ground for both men and women

[–]bluehorserunning 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There would be a lot of false comparisons with backstories that explain the outcome/behavior, but which look superficially similar from a Reddit-length post.

[–]Samsonite314 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I would do that in an instant.

With a goal perhaps as this "Seeking equal treatment of every individual by raising standards. We acknowledge each group is treated negatively in different ways, and our goal is to bring those treatments to light for anyone not a part of that group, to spur social change for the better"

I think the biggest thing for us as MRAs especially would be to not push the envelope, especially at the start. To have equal posts for stuff women face that men done as there are posts of what men face that women post. Try to start with huge sexist generalizations like the "all men are dangerous" advertisement on here a couple days ago, that shouldn't be controversial to say that is not cool to men.

And even if there's a feminist post we don't agree with, we have to be open to the fact that they experience things differently. Civilized discussions are how we fix the world.

[–]xNOM -4 points-3 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

I think you need to learn some actual facts instead of wallowing in this swamp of "narratives." You know, sociology, biology, history...

[–]Eden987[S] 2 points3 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

What are you even getting at?

[–]xNOM -5 points-4 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Who the hell cares about talking? Get an education.

[–]Eden987[S] 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Working on that too, at the moment. Do you actually think that theres nothing to be learned or gained by talking to people who think differently?

[–]xNOM -5 points-4 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

You will only learn or gain anything by talking to people who are smart. "Narratives" and "double standards" are for idiots. "Activists" are idiots. Learn some actual facts. Develop actual critical thinking skills. Get an education.

[–]Eden987[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Eden987[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Can i ask you a question?

[–]TetraThiaFulvalene 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

What kind of political change can you achieve if you refuse to talk about anything with anybody?

[–]xNOM 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I see reading is not your strong point. I bet listening isn't either. Get an education.

[–]TetraThiaFulvalene 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I can read just fine and I already have a long education. You didn't answer my question anywhere in the thread. How can you make political change if you are unwilling to engage with those who disagree with you.

[–]xNOM 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I can read just fine

No. You can't.

if you refuse to talk about anything with anybody?

Never said this.

if you are unwilling to engage with those who disagree with you.

Never said this either LOL.

I can read just fine and I already have a long education.

Why do animals reproduce sexually?

Why do social hierarchies exist?

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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