While all of western society outside of some subreddits scoffs at the very idea that men might want to have a place/means of talking about their issues, we still need to man-up and make sure everyone else is comfortable first eh?
Its when both sides treat gender equality like a zero sum game that we get Purple Haired She Beasts Screaming into peoples faces with a megaphone.
When put simply, I agree with you. But when put in terms like the quote above I really don't. The existence of the MRM has nothing to do with the existence of Radfems except that they are at opposing viewpoints. Radfems existed without ever having heard of the MRM. Look up Valerie Solanas' SCUM Manifesto. So again, while I agree with your simplified point, I don't really agree with the way you phrased it the first time...sorry I just don't.
If feminists think 1+1=3 and I said that 1+1=2, you would be telling me to accept that 1+1=2.5 in order to avoid sinking to their level.
Unfortunately, feminist theory really does, quite literally, view men as the enemy. And even a little bit of compassion towards men is seen as misogynistic hatred of women.
For many feminists, absolutely, but just like you wouldn't say non muslims are the enemy of all muslim people it doesn't make sense to go to the extremes.
You have to differentiate between nutjobs crying on tumblr over the patriarchy vs actual feminists that don't view all men as the seed of all evil. I know some feminists IRL and I love talking to them. They bring up good points about the problems that women face and try to change something about them.
Men and women face different kinds of discrimination in society, and it's important to talk about both, and to try to find solutions together.
I find more common ground with the feminists than MRAs, personally. I don't have much experience with my fellow feminists "dehumanizing" their "enemies", so the premise of this quote seems rather inflammatory to begin with.
It's certainly not going to persuade me of anything, not that it seems to be making any points outside of "'feminists' are mean to me" anyway.
Which is exactly what will keep this sub at the fringes. The world is about to turn on its axis in many ways, and as part of that, people like Laci Green are going to spring up everywhere - suddenly converted on the road to Damascus and suddenly prepared to engage with their enemy. They have been forced to do so by the weight of public animosity against them and the poverty of their arguments. We need to be prepared to forgive them with an open heart.
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While all of western society outside of some subreddits scoffs at the very idea that men might want to have a place/means of talking about their issues, we still need to man-up and make sure everyone else is comfortable first eh?
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When put simply, I agree with you. But when put in terms like the quote above I really don't. The existence of the MRM has nothing to do with the existence of Radfems except that they are at opposing viewpoints. Radfems existed without ever having heard of the MRM. Look up Valerie Solanas' SCUM Manifesto. So again, while I agree with your simplified point, I don't really agree with the way you phrased it the first time...sorry I just don't.
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Enemy could mean MRAs not men.
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But it actually means men. Because feminists hate men and consider them an enemy.
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If feminists think 1+1=3 and I said that 1+1=2, you would be telling me to accept that 1+1=2.5 in order to avoid sinking to their level.
Unfortunately, feminist theory really does, quite literally, view men as the enemy. And even a little bit of compassion towards men is seen as misogynistic hatred of women.
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For many feminists, absolutely, but just like you wouldn't say non muslims are the enemy of all muslim people it doesn't make sense to go to the extremes.
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God, you're stupid. You're even worse than the extremist feminists you hate so much.
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And your mistake is assuming that I'm referring to "every single man" and not men as a general demographic.
I am a man
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You mean insane radical feminists.
You have to differentiate between nutjobs crying on tumblr over the patriarchy vs actual feminists that don't view all men as the seed of all evil. I know some feminists IRL and I love talking to them. They bring up good points about the problems that women face and try to change something about them.
Men and women face different kinds of discrimination in society, and it's important to talk about both, and to try to find solutions together.
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I find more common ground with the feminists than MRAs, personally. I don't have much experience with my fellow feminists "dehumanizing" their "enemies", so the premise of this quote seems rather inflammatory to begin with.
It's certainly not going to persuade me of anything, not that it seems to be making any points outside of "'feminists' are mean to me" anyway.
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Can you transcribe the relevant quotes for me?
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That's a mating strategy for Lacy.
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How is left wing bullshit? Liberals are for free speech. Feminists aren't. You guys have all mislabeled shit again.
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Which is exactly what will keep this sub at the fringes. The world is about to turn on its axis in many ways, and as part of that, people like Laci Green are going to spring up everywhere - suddenly converted on the road to Damascus and suddenly prepared to engage with their enemy. They have been forced to do so by the weight of public animosity against them and the poverty of their arguments. We need to be prepared to forgive them with an open heart.
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