Incels waging 'war against women' and pose 'emerging threat to children', study finds | UK News

Alarming_Draw · 2022-09-30T19:38:50+00:00

Notice how it never describes the "organisation" that posted all this propaganda and lies?

Just repeatedly refers to "the study". NO INFORMATION about the methods used. Or if the people involved were biased or feminists.

This is just typical fear mongering and hating in order to try to stop men speaking out or getting organized.

Mechanik_J · 2022-09-30T17:10:08+00:00

Looks like they're having trouble shaming men into a wage slave beta provider role. So much so that they now have to attack involuntary celibate men when it's not even men's fault. Women are just not choosing men.

And couldn't you just fix involuntary celibacy by legalizing prostitution.....?

MiKEY_SANZ · 2022-09-30T18:46:03+00:00

"Study Finds" means nothing in the year 2022

randomusername1934 · 2022-09-30T14:49:17+00:00

Politically motivated activist group writes a lengthy piece demanding that the people they disagree with be silenced.

I shouldn't be surprised that this is presented as a neutral 'study' in the media, should I?

bottleblank · 2022-09-30T16:23:37+00:00

Warning: this article contains terms and references readers may find offensive.

Like it being inflammatory bullshit?

Incels are not lone wolves or socially isolated.

That's exactly what they fucking are, that's the point, they're lonely as all fuck because they were never given the opportunity to click with society.

"Obviously not everyone in this community is violent,"

No shit.

The problem for law enforcement is telling the difference between someone acting out on the internet and someone who poses a threat, he said.

Oh well, we'll just shovel them all into Gitmo then, shall we? "Just in case"?

Look, dipshits (or, rather, NGOs and media profiteers), this problem is going to get worse if you keep painting these poor bastards as dangerous paedophilic rapists. Most of them aren't, and you're encouraging people to treat even those who have never and would never do anything to harm a single being as though they are.

You're pushing them further into their bunker, because they can galvanise around your accusations. Even those who wouldn't previously have let harmful content slide are going to be more willing to overlook it because they feel accused themselves, they're going to be more willing to join the group of people they feel they belong to against you, because you're the enemy. The enemy that is not only broader society, largely representative of those who excluded them in the first place, but a spearhead organisation of that broader society, trying to further kick these men when they're already (very, very) down.

They need help, not criminalisation. They're experiencing severe psychological trauma, extreme ostracisation, accusations of being violent terroristic criminals, they've got mental health issues and disorders such as autism. Many grew up in bad households, in bad schools, being cast out, bullied, abused, ignored, psychologically taunted and manipulated.

They just wanted a fucking girlfriend, man, that's all.

4chan_c00kie · 2022-09-30T20:23:37+00:00

Meanwhile, please come join our mathematics class to learn why white men are evil

NITAREEDDESIGNS · 2022-09-30T14:17:26+00:00

Incel as a form of self-identification

"self identification"? LOL

TheSnesLord · 2022-09-30T19:55:01+00:00

Funny how it's always men are targeted and attacked when it comes to this kind of issue. Maybe they should take a look at the kind of stuff on FDS and TwoX.

2022-09-30T20:20:57+00:00

A study, you say?

B1G_Fan · 2022-09-30T21:47:15+00:00

Aaron Clarey wrote a fantastic book called "The Book of Numbers"

He took three statistics pertaining to the United States

The percentage of women who are marriage material
The percentage of women who are willing to marry an Average Joe 5
The odds that a marriage will be a happy marriage

And came up with ABYSMAL odds of a date resulting in a happy marriage

He looked at how hitting the gym, dressing presentably, and getting a good job can improve the odds of a first date resulting in a happy marriage to better but STILL BAD odds.

Any dude who was lied to about how spending the first 30 years of his life becoming a marriageable man is meaningful endeavor with a decent rate of return is going to be understandably unhappy

And, some guys take their rage and frustration too far.

But, most of us who are understandably pessimistic about the chances of a happy marriage just want to be left alone.

We don't want our money taken from us to prop up the government which incentivizes women to not care about what men want. We don't want the media to lecture us about our poor work ethic while not giving a damn about what caused our work ethic to atrophy in the first place.

But, no, being left alone is too much to ask for these days...

Woozuki · 2022-09-30T17:27:34+00:00

Meanwhile, these woke, feminist, idiots:

"cHilDrEn ShOuLd GeT liFE ALtErInG TRaNsGenDeR TrEAtMenTs"

2022-09-30T22:34:18+00:00

"we want men to have children"

"ok, lets insult them by calling them incels"

Admirable-Door1724 · 2022-09-30T21:28:57+00:00

These studies find posts by trolls trying to make mens groups look bad and they use those troll posts against us.

ZenofZer0 · 2022-09-30T22:19:41+00:00

There are some bad dudes out there. I’m not going to say that it’s incels in particular although they do have a higher propensity for becoming unhinged. The more important part I think, is the radfem world. It’s not hard to find, talking about being unable to rape boys cause they get hard. They talk about “murdering” unborn boys (their words not mine) because they’re male. There’s much more but I think that gets the point across. My point is that it’s radicals period but because being a radfem is trendy right now, we only address half of the issue and blame all of it on one group. It’s just a bunch of stupidity.

K1ngcrabbo10th · 2022-09-30T22:40:08+00:00

Kinda live under a rock so I'm using the word incel as a Male who's not smashing puss (that's what I think it means) but if men not smashing is a super bad thing why doesnt these feminist do something about it? Also being a man whore is a bad thing but when a man doesnt "whore" themselves out then it's also a bad thing?

Mrkvitko · 2022-09-30T22:36:26+00:00

I just love how the incels are described as "people that feel unable to find love" or is a form of self-identification...

We have no problem realizing there are people that will never be able to graduate an university. Or climb out of poverty. Or that there are people that will never get good at computer games, driving a car, cooking, and million other activities. But when it comes to relationships - it's always "there's someone special for you", or "have you tried doing X? I got my current gf there".

Most people need someone in their life. It's the same kind of need as a need of shelter, food, or of acceptance by others. And just as a homeless guy cannot just "make some money and rent an apartment, incel can't just "take a shower, hit a gym and get gf". These people need our support, not demonizing.

AbysmalDescent · 2022-09-30T22:48:12+00:00

Calling incels dangerous because violent extremists exists makes as much sense as calling homosexuals a dangerous group because Jeffrey Dahmer existed. Incels who are angry, discouraged or hurt by the way they are treated or antagonized, or at the many gender inequalities that disparage men, have a right to express their feelings about how they are treated. Historically, people in the lesbian, homosexual and bisexual communities most certainly had their share of anger against homophobia as well, and certainly had their share of extremists as well.

aigars2 · 2022-10-01T08:34:57+00:00

If you're a man and defend you civil rights you're labaled an incel. It's sad and funny at the same time.

Vaudeville_Clown · 2022-10-01T09:21:00+00:00

Let professional psychologists analyze this instead of people with bullshit degrees underneath the sociology umbrella.

A psychologist would say it's hard to say which posters truly mean what they say, from those that are just trying to provoke a reaction from society.

The fact that incels have been posting more insane and depraved stuff since the time they've been hunted by the media is a huge tell.

Chudsaviet · 2022-09-30T22:56:05+00:00

The word "incel" itself triggers me. It's kind of open labeling like "fat", "con", n-word, "techbro".
But it's socially acceptable right now for some reason.

EviessVeralan · 2022-09-30T19:46:35+00:00

Even if you gave incels the least amount of benefit of the doubt i still dont see how theyre a threat to kids.

Your_Agenda_Sucks · 2022-10-01T04:08:58+00:00

I love how choosing not to engage with superficial women is interpreted as "waging war".

almostadaddy · 2022-10-01T05:35:39+00:00

https://www.johndcook.com/blog/2021/01/18/gell-mann-amnesia/

Only in this case it is worse because the "article" and "study" are both hit pieces.

LS6789 · 2022-10-01T08:59:20+00:00

More vilification of those who won't tow the line with the divisional violent crime enabling, (and lets be honest lucrative) .U.S. post modernist identity politics/eternal victim mentality perpetrated by both hatemongers and con artists.
The fact it purposely uses such loaded language proves that it's biased, the typical lack of any link to the raw survey data nor properly describing the organisation is also suspicious as it prevents anyone from criticising it in detail.

pappo4ever · 2022-09-30T23:12:48+00:00

We are winning, boys.

Mojorizen2 · 2022-09-30T23:44:30+00:00

It’s ok to generalize incels. Because fuck men, that’s why.

b11734 · 2022-09-30T22:29:33+00:00

With the abandonment of any semblance of traditional male and female roles in society (not the crazy extreme version but the ‘there is no difference between men and women’ version) there is less incentive to find a quality partner that shares your values and wants to raise a healthy family with you. When men are just the same as women where is the incentive to seek to be more or better. Many women now claim to want a weak, feminist, beta male and then are existentially unhappy when they get one. Then they blame the man for not being a ‘man’. Some women are mental cases. Real shit shows.

GloryToChadlantis · 2022-10-01T02:42:44+00:00

Incels are just low t males who whine on internet. Only a few actually do anything.

Worst part is most these guys could get laid if they just learned how.

BlackBoxInquiry · 2022-10-01T02:18:38+00:00

Love the labeling they give others...but say something about their 'group' and watch the fireworks!

EvidencePlz · 2022-10-01T02:29:14+00:00

What the hell is an incel? Asking seriously. Every time I ask, I get different answers from different people.

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