Jordan Peterson: On the New York Times and “Enforced Monogamy” | Just as with James Damore and the Google memo, feminists again misunderstand a scientific term (perhaps deliberately) and freak out for no reason.
This sub was much better before you concern trolls came around and started arguing against hypothetical misogyny and hypothetical discussions where men hypothetically aren't doing enough to support women in a subreddit about supporting men. Again, all of which is purely hypothetical.
It sort of is. The MRM recognize that most problems boys and young men face are a result of fatherless homes... How are you going to have a present father without the "nuclear family"? I mean honestly what's the better alternative?
I get where mgtow is coming from: Divorce is so likely to completely fuck you (and the children) over that getting married is not worth the risk--I get it. But it really seems the only solution to a lot of these prevailing problems is present fathers. That recent talk with JBP and Warren Farrel perfectly describes this.
Agreed on the first part, not sure about the second. But that first part is what I was getting at.
The problem is feminism and family courts have disincentivized and destroyed any reason women could want the nuclear family model. Dating girls in my 20s is a nightmare. Feminism has rotted their brains and sold them lies about having and eating their cake.
We live in a society that has open access to porn and prostitution.
Americans don't. If you get arrested for solicitation you'll have a record that follows you around forever ruining potential employment opportunities. If you get caught for solicitation a 2nd time you get charged with a 3rd degree felony.
Nope, the problem is that women want the ability to have casual sex like gay men have always been able to! It must be odd to be so completely unaware of what the average man's life is like. Are you female by any chance?
I love that it is so easy to expose this semantic hypocrisy, which is why I try to use "females" as often as feminists use "males" (usually with the word "white" preceding it!) Also I said ability to, not freedom to. It's hilarious to think that straight men ever had the ability to have casual sex without expending a huge amount of time, money or effort. Did they use occult powers to summon a succubus for the occasion or something?
Sorry, who were these men having sex with if the women were suppressed by society? I remember asking a university sociology professor the same question. She couldn't answer, looked a bit cross. When did the stigma against men having casual sex start in western society? I've been aware of it myself since the 1980s, but thinking of my parents they must have got it from somewhere beforehand? My younger female friends often complain about people called "fuckboys" so I can see that it still exists today.
So #MenAreTrash, "all men are dogs", "men are only after one thing/have a one track minds/think with their dicks/are only out for what they can get", "womanizer", "predator" aren't stigmatic? Propositioning too many of the women they work with wouldn't endanger their career? Really?
Thanks for the update on fuckboys. One of them told me I wasn't one, so I guess that's something :p
Twitter hasn't been around since the 1980s. Most of that comes from family, media, (single sex) schooling, people at work. People must have short memories I guess.
If systemic sexism is a problem then women are free to build their own industries and networks, can't be that hard if a thinking dick can invent it out of a garden shed.
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Literally no matter what your stance is feminists will complain:
PUA: I want to have sex with as many women as possible. Hooking up is great!
Feminists Reaction: Oppressor! You treat women like sex objects!!!
MGTOW: I don't want to have anything to do with women, and just want to be left alone.
Feminist reaction: Oppressor! You want to exclude women!! Also because you don't want to date women you must hate us!
Tradcon: I want to date and marry one women. Then have children with her and support her until we both die.
Feminist Reaction: Oppressor! Traditional marriage is slavery!!!
Polygamist: I want to marry and support many women and have many children until I die.
Feminist Reaction: Oppressor! You just want to have your own person harem of wife-slaves!
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Feminists have been against the nuclear family since at least second wave, maybe even first. Marriage oppresses women and all that.
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This sub was much better before you concern trolls came around and started arguing against hypothetical misogyny and hypothetical discussions where men hypothetically aren't doing enough to support women in a subreddit about supporting men. Again, all of which is purely hypothetical.
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It sort of is. The MRM recognize that most problems boys and young men face are a result of fatherless homes... How are you going to have a present father without the "nuclear family"? I mean honestly what's the better alternative?
I get where mgtow is coming from: Divorce is so likely to completely fuck you (and the children) over that getting married is not worth the risk--I get it. But it really seems the only solution to a lot of these prevailing problems is present fathers. That recent talk with JBP and Warren Farrel perfectly describes this.
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Agreed on the first part, not sure about the second. But that first part is what I was getting at.
The problem is feminism and family courts have disincentivized and destroyed any reason women could want the nuclear family model. Dating girls in my 20s is a nightmare. Feminism has rotted their brains and sold them lies about having and eating their cake.
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They shut down r/incels and now they're flooding out from their containment subreddit into all the other places.
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Americans don't. If you get arrested for solicitation you'll have a record that follows you around forever ruining potential employment opportunities. If you get caught for solicitation a 2nd time you get charged with a 3rd degree felony.
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https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=anthropology+enforced+monogamy
And Google Scholar returns 22k results on "enforced monogamy".
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So while the term clearly returns a bunch of results, it's not a scientific term and the headline is false because it's not enough for you. Got it.
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Nope, the problem is that women want the ability to have casual sex like gay men have always been able to! It must be odd to be so completely unaware of what the average man's life is like. Are you female by any chance?
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I love that it is so easy to expose this semantic hypocrisy, which is why I try to use "females" as often as feminists use "males" (usually with the word "white" preceding it!) Also I said ability to, not freedom to. It's hilarious to think that straight men ever had the ability to have casual sex without expending a huge amount of time, money or effort. Did they use occult powers to summon a succubus for the occasion or something?
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Sorry, who were these men having sex with if the women were suppressed by society? I remember asking a university sociology professor the same question. She couldn't answer, looked a bit cross. When did the stigma against men having casual sex start in western society? I've been aware of it myself since the 1980s, but thinking of my parents they must have got it from somewhere beforehand? My younger female friends often complain about people called "fuckboys" so I can see that it still exists today.
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Yes I did, Coventry University c.1995.
So #MenAreTrash, "all men are dogs", "men are only after one thing/have a one track minds/think with their dicks/are only out for what they can get", "womanizer", "predator" aren't stigmatic? Propositioning too many of the women they work with wouldn't endanger their career? Really?
Thanks for the update on fuckboys. One of them told me I wasn't one, so I guess that's something :p
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Twitter hasn't been around since the 1980s. Most of that comes from family, media, (single sex) schooling, people at work. People must have short memories I guess.
If systemic sexism is a problem then women are free to build their own industries and networks, can't be that hard if a thinking dick can invent it out of a garden shed.
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