Feminist claim that even if rape is rare, women still have to live with the continual fear of rape, and that fear is oppression. One has to ask: if rapes are rare, where is all the fear coming from? Whoever is creating all this fear, isn't that the oppressor?
Because the fear is coming from the feminists. They are hoping to induce women to live in terror so as to gain political power thereby.
I do think so, as it is foolish to believe only attractive women get raped. I know this a men's rights sub, but it detracts from your argument when unnecessary additions, like the noted parenthetical, show how narrow minded you can be.
Fuck your feelings. There is no fucking movement because the world is filling up with feminized little man bitches like you and half the worthless cucks on here. You want to be taken seriously as a man? Be a fucking man and not a metrosexual twatnugget.
I think it is you who is the snowflake. Go to your ballet recital, cupcake. I don't want to be objective and reasonable because it is hilarious thinking of the tiny cogs and wheels in your little minds working overtime trying to comprehend it. The more time of yours I waste by giving you material to write these ridiculous counters the happier I become. Also if you define flying off the handle as laughing hysterically while typing then yes I am continuing to fly off the handle. Go fuck your mother you filthy kanigget.
I hope you don't honestly think reading some Huffington Post, Guardian, and Washington Post articles constitutes "research," do you?
What you quoted is not what feminism actually believes. Maybe the bastardized version of feminism that abounds in popular media believes in the complete tolerance of batshit-crazy females, but true feminism does not believe murderous women should get house arrest so they can raise their kids..
Wow, this was not the dialogue I wanted to initiate. I'm sorry for whatever I said that made you so angry. I'm not sure what I said that earned me a sexist accusation, but clearly I wasn't effective in expressing my point of view. Obviously you don't represent the whole of this sub, but maybe this type of response explains why little progress has been made for male rights...? I'm not sure. But if a respectful dialogue can't be had, there's not much hope for change.
Re: your point of higher mortality in tree felling and more men in sanitation/garbage disposal. You forgot to mention both men and women have the freedom to choose their career. Both men and women have the opportunity to not choose careers and pursue something else. I worked in tree care/felling for a few summers and worked as hard as the men. As a 160lb female, I could not physically do the same work as a 200-220lb man - thus my decision to leave the company was based on physical limitations and longevity.
I'm not well versed in US law - I'm in Canada. But I'm not sure I see how the age of consent fits with any gender-based agenda. To me, it's simple. If someone is under the age of consent, don't have sexual relations with them... You'll have to maybe provide a source or something - I'm willing to learn. Unfortunately, there is likely a gender bias issue with reporting and enforcement of the associated laws. Men are probably more likely to be convicted of breaching those laws than women - there are undoubtedly sex-based biases in how sex crimes are reported and tried (I don't think men are worse off per se, but they do face biases in the judicial system, men of minority in particular).
If you're angry, push for change. Organize and present a united front. Or stay in Reddit and bitch about it. Meanwhile, the feminists you hate will continue to take action. These conversations (if you can call it that) are almost never productive - go take action. You seem very impassioned on the subject of male rights so do something about it.
Ad hominem attacks, really? You're obviously somewhat intelligent - why water your points down with that juvenile garbage?
Oh shit, so you actually are a woman. Ha. I pegged you easily.
And I'm the sexist one?
Fair? The US Supreme court upheld the legality of unilateral application of age of consent, e.g. put underage males in prison but not underage females. In the UK If two 15 year olds fuck, the male goes to jail and the female doesn't. The female has to be over 16 to even have the possibility of going to jail. In the UK, a 28 year old soccer player touches a willing participant, who sought him out for sexual action, but she's 15 and he gets 6 years. A woman that sexually assaults a toddler gets 5 years. In the UK and the US, a woman gets probation for sex with a male under the age of consent, even if livestreaming it on facebook. A male gets 10-20 years and everyone wants to cut his dick off.
Of course it's not fucking fair. It's bullshit legislation - I never said this was fair or that men were not discriminated against. They very clearly are.
Bias is worse off, you idiot. How can you have the gall to suggest you have a brain and your opinion should be respected when you deny that bias, which causes males to be 'worse off' isn't actually 'worse off, per se'?
Lol. Why so angry? It simply a matter of frequency and magnitude. Stats tell us women are overwhelmingly more likely to be the victim of sexual violence compared to men, and that most sex crimes do not get reported (for both sexes). Evidence also tell us false accusations of sex crimes also very low. So while men are probably more likely than their female counterpart to face the legal repercussions of breaching age of consent, men are also more likely to actually breach it. Thus, if we a do a tally of who is worse off on the whole (judicially, psychologically, etc) - the greater number of female victims, or the lower number of reported and convicted male perpetrators of age of consent-related breaches - I don't think males are necessarily (or per se) worse off on the whole.
I'm not going to engage any more though. Feel free to continue calling me names and insulting my intelligence - my merit speaks for itself.
Uhh sounds like you were in a bad relationship with an even worse person. But anecdotal evidence is not substantial..
Going back to what /u/tedesche said, psychopaths are actually very rare. Its more likely he had a bad childhood/upbringing and has sociopathic tendencies or some mental health problems.
I was in a bar one night. One middle aged hefty lady came up to me and all of a sudden she ripped off my spectacles and walked away. I complained to police and all they did was laugh it off and told me forget it and get a new one from Specsavers. This is UK I'm talking about.
I fail to see how this is different than a man throwing acid in a woman's face. If I were that dude, I'd want to start plotting the long revenge and fuck that asshole's life up in every way possible.
Well I equate them because the criminals who commit these acts walk free. Your appeal to emotion shows that this guy didn't get as badly injured as the victims I invoked for comparison. But perpetrators who commit these crimes are free as birds and that is the way their respective societies like it. That's the equivalency. That's why I feel my comparison is not ridiculous. I'm sorry but unless people in our society are willing to get angry about this kind of travesty of justice, nothing will change. And to be honest this comment thread is exactly that acceptance in a nutshell. If this victim were a woman I don't think anyone would be jumping in the comments to tell me this wasn't a good enough victim for my original comparison. That's what I feel about it.
I'm sorry but a 3000 dollar fine is scot free. She glassed someone in their face. No it wasn't premeditated, and I didn't consider that part when I made the comparison. But this fucking woman walked away with a fine because she lives in a place that doesn't like to punish women as harshly as they do men. That makes me angry. Hence my emotional comparison. But this if you think you are going to convince me that his not needing stitches and is at all meaningful here, well you won't. The only reason he doesn't need stitches or didn't lose an eye is luck. But you're right, acid attacks are worse than this so I am not going to argue that. That does net mean this woman isn't a piece of shit who deserves jail. And my comment about getting revenge on someone if they did this to me startles you, then I don't recommend you go around hitting people in the face with glass.
Your assessment that my revenge would be a physical attack is in founded.
I just said that if someone did this to me I would want to fuck their life up...get them fired from their job and things like that.
And really you should just reconsider what you are willing to accuse of, there's no basis for saying someone you never met is the same as a psychopath who throws acid in people's faces.
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Feminist claim that even if rape is rare, women still have to live with the continual fear of rape, and that fear is oppression. One has to ask: if rapes are rare, where is all the fear coming from? Whoever is creating all this fear, isn't that the oppressor?
Because the fear is coming from the feminists. They are hoping to induce women to live in terror so as to gain political power thereby.
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I think you ruined the legitimacy your comment with your parenthetical.
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I do think so, as it is foolish to believe only attractive women get raped. I know this a men's rights sub, but it detracts from your argument when unnecessary additions, like the noted parenthetical, show how narrow minded you can be.
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Don't look at me like that. YOU certainly wouldn't be in any danger.
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You must be really ugly if some words on the internet trigger you.
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Never said I was triggered. Just thought the guy could have made his argument better without the last sentence.
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We don't like your kind around these parts.
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Fuck your feelings. There is no fucking movement because the world is filling up with feminized little man bitches like you and half the worthless cucks on here. You want to be taken seriously as a man? Be a fucking man and not a metrosexual twatnugget.
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I think it is you who is the snowflake. Go to your ballet recital, cupcake. I don't want to be objective and reasonable because it is hilarious thinking of the tiny cogs and wheels in your little minds working overtime trying to comprehend it. The more time of yours I waste by giving you material to write these ridiculous counters the happier I become. Also if you define flying off the handle as laughing hysterically while typing then yes I am continuing to fly off the handle. Go fuck your mother you filthy kanigget.
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I hope you don't honestly think reading some Huffington Post, Guardian, and Washington Post articles constitutes "research," do you?
What you quoted is not what feminism actually believes. Maybe the bastardized version of feminism that abounds in popular media believes in the complete tolerance of batshit-crazy females, but true feminism does not believe murderous women should get house arrest so they can raise their kids..
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Wow, this was not the dialogue I wanted to initiate. I'm sorry for whatever I said that made you so angry. I'm not sure what I said that earned me a sexist accusation, but clearly I wasn't effective in expressing my point of view. Obviously you don't represent the whole of this sub, but maybe this type of response explains why little progress has been made for male rights...? I'm not sure. But if a respectful dialogue can't be had, there's not much hope for change.
Re: your point of higher mortality in tree felling and more men in sanitation/garbage disposal. You forgot to mention both men and women have the freedom to choose their career. Both men and women have the opportunity to not choose careers and pursue something else. I worked in tree care/felling for a few summers and worked as hard as the men. As a 160lb female, I could not physically do the same work as a 200-220lb man - thus my decision to leave the company was based on physical limitations and longevity.
I'm not well versed in US law - I'm in Canada. But I'm not sure I see how the age of consent fits with any gender-based agenda. To me, it's simple. If someone is under the age of consent, don't have sexual relations with them... You'll have to maybe provide a source or something - I'm willing to learn. Unfortunately, there is likely a gender bias issue with reporting and enforcement of the associated laws. Men are probably more likely to be convicted of breaching those laws than women - there are undoubtedly sex-based biases in how sex crimes are reported and tried (I don't think men are worse off per se, but they do face biases in the judicial system, men of minority in particular).
If you're angry, push for change. Organize and present a united front. Or stay in Reddit and bitch about it. Meanwhile, the feminists you hate will continue to take action. These conversations (if you can call it that) are almost never productive - go take action. You seem very impassioned on the subject of male rights so do something about it.
Cheers.
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Ad hominem attacks, really? You're obviously somewhat intelligent - why water your points down with that juvenile garbage?
And I'm the sexist one?
Of course it's not fucking fair. It's bullshit legislation - I never said this was fair or that men were not discriminated against. They very clearly are.
Lol. Why so angry? It simply a matter of frequency and magnitude. Stats tell us women are overwhelmingly more likely to be the victim of sexual violence compared to men, and that most sex crimes do not get reported (for both sexes). Evidence also tell us false accusations of sex crimes also very low. So while men are probably more likely than their female counterpart to face the legal repercussions of breaching age of consent, men are also more likely to actually breach it. Thus, if we a do a tally of who is worse off on the whole (judicially, psychologically, etc) - the greater number of female victims, or the lower number of reported and convicted male perpetrators of age of consent-related breaches - I don't think males are necessarily (or per se) worse off on the whole.
I'm not going to engage any more though. Feel free to continue calling me names and insulting my intelligence - my merit speaks for itself.
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Tl;dr
Also don't care to be regularly insulted during an exchange.
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Uhh sounds like you were in a bad relationship with an even worse person. But anecdotal evidence is not substantial..
Going back to what /u/tedesche said, psychopaths are actually very rare. Its more likely he had a bad childhood/upbringing and has sociopathic tendencies or some mental health problems.
Psychopathy does not equal violence.
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Side question, where does that money go? Who gets to "keep" it? The state?
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I was in a bar one night. One middle aged hefty lady came up to me and all of a sudden she ripped off my spectacles and walked away. I complained to police and all they did was laugh it off and told me forget it and get a new one from Specsavers. This is UK I'm talking about.
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I fail to see how this is different than a man throwing acid in a woman's face. If I were that dude, I'd want to start plotting the long revenge and fuck that asshole's life up in every way possible.
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Well I equate them because the criminals who commit these acts walk free. Your appeal to emotion shows that this guy didn't get as badly injured as the victims I invoked for comparison. But perpetrators who commit these crimes are free as birds and that is the way their respective societies like it. That's the equivalency. That's why I feel my comparison is not ridiculous. I'm sorry but unless people in our society are willing to get angry about this kind of travesty of justice, nothing will change. And to be honest this comment thread is exactly that acceptance in a nutshell. If this victim were a woman I don't think anyone would be jumping in the comments to tell me this wasn't a good enough victim for my original comparison. That's what I feel about it.
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It's okay I know my comments are emotional too.
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I'm sorry but a 3000 dollar fine is scot free. She glassed someone in their face. No it wasn't premeditated, and I didn't consider that part when I made the comparison. But this fucking woman walked away with a fine because she lives in a place that doesn't like to punish women as harshly as they do men. That makes me angry. Hence my emotional comparison. But this if you think you are going to convince me that his not needing stitches and is at all meaningful here, well you won't. The only reason he doesn't need stitches or didn't lose an eye is luck. But you're right, acid attacks are worse than this so I am not going to argue that. That does net mean this woman isn't a piece of shit who deserves jail. And my comment about getting revenge on someone if they did this to me startles you, then I don't recommend you go around hitting people in the face with glass.
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Sorry I don't follow you.
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Your assessment that my revenge would be a physical attack is in founded.
I just said that if someone did this to me I would want to fuck their life up...get them fired from their job and things like that.
And really you should just reconsider what you are willing to accuse of, there's no basis for saying someone you never met is the same as a psychopath who throws acid in people's faces.
I'm done.
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