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Male Expendability is Ingrained Young

LTDlimited
July 15, 2020
106 upvotes
/r/MensRights

On saving his sister from a dog attack, “If someone had to die, I thought it should be me.”

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Title Male Expendability is Ingrained Young
Author LTDlimited
Upvotes 106
Comments 36
Date July 15, 2020 3:15 AM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit /r/MensRights
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/male-expendability-is-ingrained-young.847765
https://theredarchive.com/post/847765
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/hrg03o/male_expendability_is_ingrained_young/
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Comments

[–]contraterrene 33 points34 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

The male instinct to protect those who you love is strong, it's a shame in every sense of the word that this trait is not appreciated in our culture so much these days.

[–]-Aegle- 9 points10 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

He's on the front page and thousands of commenters are calling him a hero. Clearly this trait is being appreciated.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

You're right in this instance but it seems like this isn't appreciated in older men

[–]joshuagress12345 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's expected, which is plain wrong.

[–]-Aegle- -1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

:( I hope that isn't true

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I mean look at any "good guy with a gun" scenario where an armed civilian stops an armed criminal. How often do you hear about those guys?

[–]-Aegle- 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I mean that's a pretty specific subset of heroism with a lot of cultural baggage associated with it (gun control, vigilantism, police brutality, economic and racial conflict etc.) If that's your only standard of heroism, then I'm not surprised you're hurting for examples. But I feel I see less politically charged examples of male heroism represented fairly commonly in the news. (Less commonly than I see male criminals represented, but that's plain old negativity bias.)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm not hurting for examples, that was just the first to spring to mind. I get your point tho

[–]-Aegle- 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

:)

Now that I think about it, I actually just heard about an example of male heroism in the news last week, when this guy was sentenced:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Portland_train_attack

Men do this kind of stuff all the time, and we do get recognition for it.

[–]Whatismyname420 32 points33 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

What an absolute king 👑👑👑

[–]Nath43673 30 points31 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Worth noting that he's also the older sibling, so it's not a clear cut matter of gender.

Many of the comments, however, are tying it to his gender. Heroism is the reward our society gives men for willingly feeding themselves into the meatgrinder. At least there's a lot more "don't be a hero" language these days.

[–]N19864 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Heroism is the reward our society gives men for willingly feeding themselves into the meatgrinder.

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They are raised that way and early on they realise how they are valued. I've heard "Protect your sister", being said to a younger (male) sibling. I've also heard it said to a daughter to a (younger) brother but never when he is older. Also you get this: "Never hit a girl" etc.

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You get taught early on.

[–]MBV-09-C 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I do find it pretty disappointing that a lot of comments there are just "that guy's gonna get so many girls when he grows up" and "chicks love scars". Like, he's a child, he could've easily died, but all they really care about was how women will think of him because of this.

[–]honeyjon123 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Long term as i said many times now parents where dog owner where, dog needs to be put down this is a kid. His face is badly damaged a kid, a child, not a grown adult who can defend themselves. No one saved him ethier they ran away, why the fuck was no one around to help this poor kid being attacked.

[–]laid_on_the_line 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My daughter is two years younger than my boy and she will defend him to death. This is not a matter of age or sex. This is siblings.

[–]Maito_Guy 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is interesting because there are a lot of factors here, he is older, male biology, and socialisation. If I had to guess I would say that it is more biology than socialisation and tend to think that a large proportion of boys would do this if they had totally neutral socialisation and probably even if it was a little brother(although probably slightly less) although the "if somebody had to die, I thought it should be me" comment sounds like a product of socialisation.

[–]superslayerjack 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Or maybe it's just a kid who wanted to save his sister?

[–]VileInsidias 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It’s funny that atleast one person will have said ‘it’s just a dog what’s the problem’ yet if it was ‘just a dog’ the girl could handle herself fine.

[–]-Aegle- 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What?

[–]VileInsidias 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What the holy fuck.

[–]excess_inquisitivity 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

There is literally nothing in that image explaining how he was wounded.

[–]Arrogant_with_cause 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is all over Reddit at the moment, so it's expected to be understood. But yeah, if you didn't know, his sister was being attacked by a dog and he protected her, I don't know the exact nature of that, but that's what happened

[–]chintan22 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's more about being a protective sibling. I would very well do the same for my younger brother and actually have a few small scars to prove it.

[–]OnlyTwentySomething 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Poor guy, thats gonna leave quite the scar.

What happened??

[–]Arrogant_with_cause 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

He had no requirement to do this, so not quite expendability. It was his choice to be that extremely generous

[–]rtantepudi -4 points-3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I dont get what youre saying, male expendability? Why is that shown in this image. Its just a person helping his younger sibling, he just happened to be a boy. Why are we calling it male expendability all of a sudden? Why are we taking a good event and turning it into something not so good because of something thats not even shown in the post? I just don't understand.

[–]Whatismyname420 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Look at how young they both are. Yes he is the older sibling but i dont think a girl his age would do that for her younger brother.

[–]rtantepudi -3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I get what youre saying, but lets just be happy for the fact that he did save his sister, instead of making this about gender and what the opposite gender may or may not do

Also, FIKING REDDIT POST TIMEOUTS REEEE

[–]Nerfixion -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

How is this an issue? We are biologically built to do this.

If we weren't we wouldn't have every single advantage over women when it comes to it.

He was also the older sibling here.

Posts like this are what put the whole image of men's rights 2 step backwards. Like how the fuck can you turn this kid being heroic into a bad thing. Literally trying to shame the kid for being a man.

Fuck off OP.

[–]AlexIsBawss -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

So... protecting someone you love is wrong? I’m down for the whole equality thing, but this probably isn’t the best example.

[–]LTDlimited[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If the roles were reversed I doubt she would have the same sense of duty. she might run and go help but she wouldn't jump in there and risk sacrificing her own life to save her younger brother. Boys are taught through our traditional stories, our action movies, our fairy tales, etc, that in order to be a good man, you have to consider your life worth less than whatever woman it is that you're trying to save/protect. No the kid is an absolutely a champ, there's no denying that. But it doesn't change the fact that he was likely motivated (see original caption on the original post) by our gynocentric culture to view his life as less worthwhile than hers.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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