Man physically attacked by woman uses self-defence. Man portrayed as attacker(xpost-TIA)

MRAmandatory · 2014-07-23T22:01:55+00:00

Dylan and Cody agree the woman was aggressive, but they believe the burly bus marshal didn't need to knock her over. "It would have been hard to handle her, but what you should have done was walked away or got someone else to handle it for you. The way he was trying to get through to her, she didn't want to listen."

What. What?? First they're obviously portraying the guy as abusive by using out of place adjectives like "burly" (he's not even burly, he's just plain fat). Then the witness claims that it's the man's fault because the female refused to cooperate? So all that a female has to do is disagree with the guy and she gets free reign to do whatever she wants without repercussion?

ObligatoryJesus · 2014-07-23T23:35:40+00:00

OMFG, as a taller and broader individual, I'm so sick of hearing the size excuse... "You're bigger, therefore; defense of your self is not acceptable." It's just like that Aussie kid that was being bullied by the tiny prick until he eventually dropped him on his head. If you instigate violence and then get flattened, that's responsibility you assumed upon the initial instigation!

BuddhaB · 2014-07-23T23:58:36+00:00

Stay classy ACA. for the people who are unaware of this program its key demographic is uneducated people.

This woman not only appeared to start the altercation but was intent with escalating the situation. Regardless of gender, size or intent if you are the aggressor you are the guilty person.

karazygeneral · 2014-07-23T23:46:57+00:00

Dat leg sweep

"I'll just throw one of these in there"

MockingDead · 2014-07-24T02:10:58+00:00

Who's side is that fucking idiot on?! "She could have easily died". She could have easily have not have been a stupid cunt.

danmurphey · 2014-07-23T23:07:19+00:00

He even had the decency to hold her arm and drop her gently. This isn't even violence. Three swings at his head and he (fairly gently) puts her on the floor. Just don't punch people. Fucking the easiest fucking thing to do in life.

TrueRamo · 2014-07-23T20:53:27+00:00

It was all his fault for giving her wrong directions. Perhaps if she would have planned properly, she wouldn't have that problem. I don't think he acted poorly. He defended himself, end of story.

jake_82 · 2014-07-23T22:19:24+00:00

This is the kind of thing that enrages me. The fact that she is a mother should be troubling not for her safety, but for whatever shit upbringing this insane woman will give these kids.

Those two 18 year old boys are going so hard into a life of perpetual friendzoning.

bluefootedpig · 2014-07-23T23:18:43+00:00

Why is the news putting the extra noises? Look how hard she hits, plays crashing sound

rogersmith25 · 2014-07-23T21:31:53+00:00

He should've pressed charges.

But he was probably too good a guy.

Sir_Fancy_Pants · 2014-07-24T00:38:50+00:00

Fucking disgrace the way this was reported.

DesignRed · 2014-07-23T23:54:30+00:00

Doesn't he know that men can't touch women even when they are being assaulted? Could he just man up and walk away? /s

What's funny is this guy used none of his actual force to fight back, but merely tripped her up to stop her from assaulting him. If he had raised a hand and actually defended himself, he would be in jail right now. Even when he is being assaulted, he knows better than to directly defend himself and just trip her up.

IcyTy · 2014-07-23T23:42:55+00:00

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Nomenimion · 2014-07-23T23:39:37+00:00

More patriarchy, obviously.

TsarKartoshka · 2014-07-24T01:06:14+00:00

I'm annoyed by the men who second guess any man defending himself with physical force (no matter how minimal) against a woman. Or worse, the men who jump in as white knights to the rescue.

Stop saying how easy it is for a man to simply walk away or ignore a woman while she's going for heavier or sharper objects to strike the man with. Or that he needs to get a psychology degree to better understand her. I'd like to see how those guys would really react if it happened to them.

Dinkledonker · 2014-07-24T05:03:10+00:00

So if a small male attacks a larger larger male and gets cunted in self defence, is the small male innocent? Of course not. She's seen as innocent purely because she's a woman. Size doesn't come into it.

Nomenimion · 2014-07-23T23:59:30+00:00

This reminds me of that story about the woman who started choking that guy on the train. When the cops arrived, HE was arrested.

The west has gone mad.

IcyTy · 2014-07-24T01:19:14+00:00

What has this world come to? He couldn't have possibly handled that more professionally under the circumstances. He used a leg sweep rather than striking her. No anger in his actions, and he didn't put any of his weight behind the movement. Yet they still want to crucify him.

richardnorth · 2014-07-24T12:51:32+00:00

Big part of the problem is that women feel entitled to commit violence against men without repercussions.

UtahStateAgnostics · 2014-07-24T02:59:01+00:00

"Sweep the leg. . . You have a problem with that?!"

2014-07-24T05:43:17+00:00

From the youtube comments:

I have no obligation to allow someone to attack me, even if I don't think he or she poses a risk to my life. What is wrong with you that you think it's okay for anyone, woman or not, to continually attack someone else? What is wrong with you that you think it's okay to condemn a man for using just the least amount of force necessary?

Sucks for her that she hit her head, but that's her own fault for starting a fight she stood no chance of winning.

COVERartistLOL · 2014-07-24T11:52:51+00:00

but they believe the burly bus marshal didn't need to knock her over.

He didn't. He only tripped her. SHE was trying to knock him over the head. And hes not burly, he was fat.

but what you should have done was walked away or got someone else to handle it for you.

Smart idea. Turn your back on the very person who is trying to hit you with a scooter. Nothing could go wrong there. Also, were these idiots watching the video? Cause I didn't see anyone coming to help this man. So how was he gonna get someone else to handle this, when he has an aggressive women attacking him with a scooter, and he isn't allowed to defend himself?

The way he was trying to get through to her, she didn't want to listen.

So her not wanting to listen is an excuse for her to attack him. Shit, what can't women get away with.

"its now normal to be violent to another person, and it has to stop."

"its now normal FOR WOMEN to be violent to ~~another person~~ men" FTFY. But seriously. If people want to stop violence. Then start by telling women that they have no right to hit a man. Instead of painting them as the victim whenever they're the aggressor.

This video is bullshit. The guy didn't even hit her, he just tripped her(While holding her hand to lesser the blow) so she would stop attacking him. But yet, they're still only focusing on him and making it seem like some kind of violent attack that she didn't start. And making her out to be this poor, helpless, victim. FUCK THE MEDIA, and people who support this.

IcyTy · 2014-07-24T02:00:56+00:00

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HeyZuesHChrist · 2014-07-24T12:50:36+00:00

This woman should have her children taken away from her. She's an unfit parent. She leaves her two young children to stand there and watch her attack a man? These people that think this man was an aggressor cannot be serious.

2014-07-24T04:47:40+00:00

Current Affair is a trashy video tabloid.

2014-07-24T10:37:08+00:00

Disgraceful behaviour from a trashy bitch, but she's been pregnant at least twice in her life so that absolves her of all responsibility and common courtesy, she is now allowed to do whatever she wants, including assaulting someone who is doing his job and tried to assist her, without repercussion, and we are instead supposed to feel sorry for her. Outrageous.

2014-07-24T11:38:21+00:00

Guess that's why you don't fuck with someone 3 times your size... There's a reason the people sitting there didn't hop in. If she was late for her hospital appt., she should have left earlier and known where the fuck she was going.

col381 · 2014-07-24T01:23:01+00:00

"A Current Affair" is famous in Australia for being a steaming pile of rage inducing bollocks. It is Rupert Murdoch style "current affairs news" where at least half of the stories are thinly disguised ads,and the other half are overhyped bullshit stories designed to make old people either angry or afraid.

2014-07-24T01:43:28+00:00

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PerniciousOne · 2014-07-24T03:37:23+00:00

She is at fault for the events that transpired.

She could have chose to use words against the transit worker, and instead started assaulting him. He easily swept her feet out from under her and instead of reasoning that she was outmatched she continued to attack him.

He did not wind up and punch her in the face as hard as he could, when she came in close he just swept the feet out, like sweeping out the trash.

Wulibo · 2014-07-24T03:58:29+00:00

"It is now 'normal' reaction to get violent with another human being; that's got to stop, or we're just going to have so much increase in misery."

Oh good, he's going to defend the bus driver and argue that it is unacceptable to portray her violent actions as normal and not an instigation.

...

Nope.

mrwhibbley · 2014-07-24T04:37:18+00:00

This is ridiculous. So a smaller woman stupidly attacks a bigger guy and gets put in her place. He didn't hit her or punch her right away, took several blows while attempting to get her to stop. She continued and he ended it. He didn't jump on her when she was down and continue hitting her, or kick her. She should have gone to jail and the news agency should be ashamed. You want equality, hows that for equality?

Pointless_arguments · 2014-07-24T05:00:18+00:00

You guys are getting angry over a well-known trash tabloid TV show.

The viewing demographic for A Current Affair is basically the woman in this video - uneducated, unemployed mothers who are at home while everyone else is at work. Of course they're going to take the side of their demographic. Everyone else knows this show is sensationalized garbage. Half the show is usually taken up by paid segments advertising skin cream or the latest weight loss drug.

Ayesuku · 2014-07-24T12:04:35+00:00

If you keep watching the video, they say that police tried to charge the woman for assault, but the bus marshal didn't want to press charges.

ustael · 2014-07-24T15:56:14+00:00

Man, I am never going to Australia. It seems to be such an anti male society and that freaks the hell out of me.

ZimbaZumba · 2014-07-24T01:26:16+00:00

A barefaced attempt at social engineering on the part of the producers and journalists that will go down is history.

TommyyyGunsss · 2014-07-24T01:57:46+00:00

Fuck, I'm currently in blacktown where this happened. What are the chances of that

RangoBronson · 2014-07-24T10:18:05+00:00

This shouldn't be viewed as a mens rights issue... A Current Affair has some of the worst journalism in Australia, it is the Chiropractor of journalism over here.

sockmess · 2014-07-24T10:25:17+00:00

I couldn't even watch after the 18 year olds started talking.

2014-07-24T15:04:08+00:00

"She could have easily died hitting her head against the ground"

An accurate assessment from an 18 year old, no doubt something he was told to say

Raunien · 2014-07-24T15:49:48+00:00

I did basic judo, and sweeping your opponents legs out from under them is pretty key. If your opponent is on the floor, they can't fight. Her fault for not learning how to fall properly.

Seriously, though, it's a pretty safe way of neutralising an opponent. If they're in any way in control of themselves, they can land reasonably safely. Worst case scenario: broken limb or hand bone. Much better than if he had decided to, say, punch her in the face. A single punch can kill.

She was ranting and raving, and he was calm and controlled throughout, neutralising her in, as far as I can tell, the best way possible. You land on the ground, that's a shock. You're now disoriented. You get your hands put behind your back or something like that, yes you can't fight, but you can struggle. You can shout and scream and ultimately everyone comes off looking worse.

He took the best course of action in the circumstances IMO.

yummyluckycharms · 2014-07-24T16:30:27+00:00

Steps to avoid being sued in the west and to fulfill the requirements of criteria for self defense...

1) have video and audio recorder at all times

2) when confronted, loudly tell the aggressor that you're afraid that they have a weapon in their pocket and for them to stay away

3) take a step back so that you are demonstrating the attempt of trying to remove yourself from the situation

4) when attacked, strike with brutal force to incapacitate the attacker

By doing these steps, you've demonstrated that you tried to remove yourself from a dangerous situation, was prevented from doing so, and reacted according to the perceived level of danger (which was mortal because they had a weapon), and its all recorded.

Remember: the state is never your ally - and women like this will use their sense of entitlement to damage your career, health, and family if they can.

Learn to fight back.

nolehusker · 2014-07-24T16:59:38+00:00

The best part is that they keep talking about the kids crying and how they just wanted to talk to their mom and how they had to watch their mom go to the ambulance.

Well, if she wasn't to busy starting a fight and assaulting someone they might now be crying. Maybe she could've have actually parented them.

DingoDamp · 2014-07-24T21:31:12+00:00

Fuck this shit! She hits him multiple times and even looks for a scooter for weapon.. He is fully allowed to defend himself. Fuck society on these types of cases

almalooley · 2014-07-24T23:36:04+00:00

Fuck this. She got what she was asking for. You hit someone in the face for giving the wrong directions?? That psychotic crack mom needs to be institutionalized.

Another thing that really grinds my gears is the mother of the 18 year old that filmed the incident.

She's "proud" he filmed it. Proud? Really? He did it for world star. For the vine. It accidentally helped out. He could've done quite a few things other than filming to smooth over the scenario. Like calm the kids down for instance, or go and be that other person to diffuse the situation.

End rant.

MidNiteR32 · 2014-07-25T03:03:35+00:00

And of course, the white knights in the video, to the rescue! sigh

azithel · 2014-07-26T11:45:20+00:00

Chivalry is dogshit.

Self defense in a human right, not a female right.

2014-07-24T11:48:49+00:00

I feel like we should start carrying pepper spray for situations like this.

Watchakow · 2014-07-24T12:27:25+00:00

"Anything can be done with words, just as good as violence."

WHICH IS WHY HE FUCKING WATCHED THIS HAPPEN, AND SAID NOTHING. He's not an innocent bystander, he's just as much to blame as the marshall.

Mattman624 · 2014-07-30T18:26:09+00:00

Isn't this the definition of "Victim blaming"?

2014-07-24T12:28:07+00:00

Hey, its a current affair. It's hardly a reputable or creditable news source.

Title	Man physically attacked by woman uses self-defence. Man portrayed as attacker(xpost-TIA)
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