Man who fled Ukraine on foot says conscripts are dragged from families

Aimless-Nomad · 2022-07-24T14:53:19+00:00

A comment of mine i keep posting

Women flee at the first sight of trouble but full on expect men to die for them

It started with this despicable woman who was the forefront of the movement that shamed men to go die in war

This was known as the White Feather Campaign

Male shaming and suicide was so bad during WW1 that the United Kingdom had to create the Silver War Badge so feminists would leave men alone and that idea was revived for WW2 with the King's Badge.

It was common for men who had been given the White Feather by feminists in the First World War to either kill themselves through shame, or else to immediately sign up and face probable death, even if they were suffering from genuine disability, had already fought and been traumatized, or even if they were underage children.

A quote from the lady herself:

There are people who say ‘What right have women to talk to men about fighting for their country?’ since women are not according to the custom of civilization, called upon to fight. That used to be said to us in times of peace. Certainly, women have the right to say to men ‘Are you going to fight to defend your country and redeem your promise to women?’. The least that men can do, is that every man of fighting age should prepare himself, to redeem his word to women and to make ready to do his best to save the mothers, the wives, and the daughters of Great Britain from outrage too horrible even to think off. What bitterness there was in the hearts of many women when they saw work and business going on as usual, carried on by men who ought to be in the fighting line.

- Emmeline Pankhurst

more than one million men died in world war one.

And since then

Nothing really has changed. Women are still draft dodging cowards but full on expect men to die for them.

This is modern times, women voting for men to die

And here #iwontgo (but send the men to their fucking deaths)

And here (women sacrifice more my ass)

And finally ukraine

Again ukraine (courageous cowards)

This one below is messed up

On the left : Ukrainian women who fled the war, left the men behind and made Tinder accounts in a new country. On the right : men who died to protect Ukraine.

Fearless-File-3625 · 2022-07-24T06:59:47+00:00

List of man hating excuses about Ukraine:

Only volunteers are enlisted.
All men want to fight anyways. (totally not shaming them in enlisting)
There are many exceptions to the ban and most men are eligible to leave.
Men should fight for their country. (as if women aren't beneficiary of majority of rights and resources of any country in the world)
East Europe is a traditional. (no it's not, only trad when it affects men)
It doesn't violate various human right articles of UN, EU, ECHR, Amnesty International etc. (it does but since human rights are women rights nobody cares)

God bless this man who escaped that man hating hellhole. Hope others are able to do it too.

Aimless-Nomad · 2022-07-24T07:40:45+00:00

Fuck these cowards. Let's talk about the brave women fleeing. /s

2022-07-24T07:08:00+00:00

Exactly what I said in another thread where someone was saying Russia is conscripting and Ukraine was not. Yet, women and children were allowed to leave but men were not. That was a nationwide conscription.

Magical-Hummus · 2022-07-24T14:35:00+00:00

I still don't get why people demand you owe your life to the state solely for the unlucky reason you were born in it.

There is no glory in death, just praised bloodshed.

Immediate_Scholar_77 · 2022-07-24T07:04:19+00:00

Ukraine is a backwards, ultra corrupt, human rights abusing failed state, Just because they're now fighting the reds doesn't suddenly erase all that as much as the constant pr tour from the MSM and military industrial complex try to convince you it does

Peraz · 2022-07-24T13:01:55+00:00

He added: ‘The Western world should be should be aware of how terrifying this is for the Ukrainian people.’

The western world would do the same if there was a war in any of those countries, all the western countries started praising Zelenskyy's decision to violate basic human rights of men, even his decision that Ukrainian men living abroad are criminals if they don't return to fight. We'll see which country will extradite those men after the war is over and Ukraine presses charges officially, but I have a feeling most will.

Mysterious-Judge-333 · 2022-07-25T05:21:12+00:00

tbf the #Iwontgo article seemed to be making the case against forced military conscription regardless of sex.

ThicColt · 2022-07-24T13:36:46+00:00

I would have no issue with forcing every able bodied man to fight

What I have an issue with is not making women do the same

You're at war with one of the biggest countries in the bloody world, you need all the manpower you can find! Organize children to the west side of the country to be taken care of primarily by older people, and people with disabilities, poor eyesight, etc

Every able bodied person should be making an active effort in the war. In a defensive war, the entire country should fight

(Before anyone says why aren't you there, I would be, but they don't take 15yo olds from Finland. If we were attacked, I would be there to stop that or die trying)

jacare_o · 2022-07-24T14:16:26+00:00

Look. Men are being forced to die for a country, the way it's been forever.

It's the patriarchy oppressing women again! (sarcasm)

Al_Modir · 2022-07-24T19:06:01+00:00

Unfortunately this is not something you can change in the middle of a war. If you have had men who were men for a lifetime and more fit to fight and women who’ve been women for a life time and not as fit to fight, it’d not be beneficial to enlist women en mass. Sure those who are fit and able to fight should. But at least people should acknowledge that men are the main defenders of the country and not have feminists shit on them all the time.

SnooBeans6591 · 2022-07-24T14:25:56+00:00

I would shoot at the enemy, that is the people trying to take my liberty

Glum-One816 · 2022-07-25T03:18:34+00:00

I have a Ukrainian girlfriend, and she told me to not go to Ukraine to fight because we want us both alive and well to create our family. The problem is, that she stuck in Kharkiv, and I tried to save up, so she could get her passport documents. She gave me an exclamation about why she would not let me and her father to go to Ukraine. Therefore I'm trying to help her out of the country. I just hate this policy. A good man would save her workout, risking his own life to get her.

Gothiks · 2022-07-24T19:19:53+00:00

But Ukraine is totally winning guys.. they have to drag people to fight because they’re doing so awesome and want to share! The combat footage sub is totally accurate, ok?

Peraz · 2022-07-24T14:13:44+00:00

Not sure if entire thread is filled with stupid useful idiot Western people who can't step out of their culture wars and rights-centric POV or Russian trolls.

wowelysiumthrowaway · 2022-07-24T22:20:25+00:00

Zelensky should stop dragging the war on and sucking $ from the us

Ant0nChigur · 2022-07-24T09:43:18+00:00

At this point in history all this BS goes out the window, if the people of Ukraine don't fight for their country they won't have one to call home. A hard as it maybe to understand, all these men should be fighting and giving everything they have.

It should go without saying that all women of age should also be contributing to the fight along with men too.

The American who fled the fighting is within his right as a foreigner to flee but the coward shouldn't be comparing himself with them, they don't have the option to run away to a safe home.

Riptionator · 2022-07-25T03:51:45+00:00

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human8ure · 2022-07-24T21:06:38+00:00

You should see what it’s like for the women.

MikiSayaka33 · 2022-07-24T18:43:27+00:00

Metro article (archive)

kiadragon · 2022-07-25T00:41:20+00:00

Yeah...sounds like conscription alright.

FurryM17 · 2022-07-25T02:00:31+00:00

This would be the case in the United States too. If we ever somehow got invaded our current definition of the militia means every man aged 17 to 45 is going to be fighting.

Title	Man who fled Ukraine on foot says conscripts are dragged from families
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Date	July 24, 2022 6:07 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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