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[–]Lethn 828 points829 points830 points 4 years ago* (35 children) | Copy Link
Note how she capslocked women on purpose, that indicates if a man lied about that sort of thing she'd be completely fine with him going to jail. She's a complete hypocrite like most people who believe this shit and there's nothing wrong with calling her out for it.
[–]LordOfTheGulls 237 points238 points239 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
BUt WAhmEN CaNT RaPe
[–]knortfoxx 74 points75 points76 points 4 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
Britishness intensifies
[–]Reportforbreathing 42 points43 points44 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Oi na that legit pisses me off
[–]dcvngtn3 34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Oi, ya got a loicense to be pissed off, mate?
[–]xjescobedox 32 points33 points34 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Oi, ya got a loicense fa check' n loicenses
[–]brubeck5 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Oi, ya got a loicense to chek other blokes loicenses???? Hmmm?
[–]Viper1-11 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Oi! Will you both mess off! presents license to tell people to mess off God save the Queen!
[–]LordOfTheGulls 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
OI! YOU HAVE A LOICENSE TO PRESENT THAT LOICENSE
[–]Viper1-11 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh crap it’s a Bobby! Oi! you have a license to use all caps!?
[–]GodSaveTheQueen_Bot 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hi, u/Viper1-11
I think you may enjoy this!
[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Why feminists can’t realize men can be raped by other men too and they still act like women are only victims of rape 🙄
[–]Rachaford 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Men can even be raped by women. It’s a universal problem and I hope more people start realizing it :)
[–]HardKase 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Only morally, not legally.
[–]DJ-Roukan 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You can't reason with crazy, just like you cannot reason with terrorist.
You simply dig them out and end their agenda. Hell, with stupidity that she is spewing, they are starting to end themselves.
[–]NohoTwoPointOh 84 points85 points86 points 4 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
She is reminding you of who the gods are.
[–]Getalifenliveit 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
If women were gods, they probably wouldn’t get raped
[–]waffle_jeus4269 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
The term for wamen gods is godess
[–]Getalifenliveit 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Are you saying women can’t be gods?!?!?!?!
[–]waffle_jeus4269 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Yes because the term god is male in most mythologies
[–]Getalifenliveit 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Please check your privilege
[–]waffle_jeus4269 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Uno reverse card
[–]Getalifenliveit 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I’m choosing to interpret your comment as a microaggression
[–]waffle_jeus4269 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Ok you can do that freedom of expression
[–]lastdazeofgravity 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
*wild draw 4 *
[–]Socialist133 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I just did. Thanks for reminding me of the privilege to be forced to go to war if needed or face abuse and/or prosecution.
[–]Getalifenliveit 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You’re welcome! :)
[–]Socialist133 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
There have been some misunderstandings in the past and I want to make sure that I'm being sarcastic.
[–]dojurynullification 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Privilege checked. Still intact!
[–]Rock_lee_69 44 points45 points46 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She is reminding us who we should be aware of
[–]Mackowatosc 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
well, what did you expect, but hypocrisy and double standards? :)
[–]jimmywiddle 268 points269 points270 points 4 years ago (40 children) | Copy Link
hmmm reading his twitter feed just makes you laugh. Nuttier than a packet of peanuts... It's quite scary how dumb some people are. However here we have exhibit a.
[–]lazarljubenovic 126 points127 points128 points 4 years ago (37 children) | Copy Link
The amount of likes is always scary when it's over two digits and dumb shit like this.
But the scariest part is that this is allowed in social media while "honk" gets you Zucced. Go figure.
[–][deleted] 47 points48 points49 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Then again there is no telling how many people disagree with her. Only reddit has that luxury
[–]mcavvacm 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (31 children) | Copy Link
Honk? What’s the context for this?
[+]Ctrl_Alt_Abstergo1 points 4 years ago* [recovered] (30 children) | Copy Link
A meme where people say we live in a clown world, post the clown emoji and a planet emoji, “not in this clown world” etc etc and people will respond “honk honk.” So now saying “honk” gets you banned.
[–]lastdazeofgravity 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link
Wow. Wtf. So dumb
[+]spear117 -49 points-48 points-47 points 4 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link
This is not the whole story, this meme is used by Nazis to promote their ideas as a dogwhistle. To clarify, not all people who use this are Nazis, but some of them are.
[–]xx2Hardxx 33 points34 points35 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
No it isn't. And who gives a fuck what Neo-Nazis are doing; the whole point is to ignore them completely because they don't deserve attention.
[+]spear117 -39 points-38 points-37 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I mean, just take a look at /r/honkler .
And yes, we need to bring attention to this issue, young men are getting radicalized, and they have already shown us the consequences of that.
[–]UnhappyChemist 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Funny that you bitch about honkler but have no problem with dem senator Brian schatz endorsement of racist Sarah Jeong who supports white genocide.
Or the multiple dnc members who wear blackface.
You might want to address the racists in your own party because last I checked honkler isnt making laws or an editor at one of the largest news outlets in the world.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://claremontindependent.com/pomona-alumnus-brian-schatz-tweets-support-sarah-jeong/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwidxsDtkPHiAhVFs6wKHfm1CloQFjABegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw06RI__tV-QgtiT6fET6FcD&cf=1
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.statedepartmentwatch.org/2018/08/04/wow-hawaii-senator-stands-with-racist-cop-hating-nyt-writer-sarah-jeong/&ved=2ahUKEwidxsDtkPHiAhVFs6wKHfm1CloQFjACegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw1HLsAsD7QvBmhv2LVccVXw
[+]spear117 -10 points-9 points-8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well, I don't even live in America or am an American citizen, so I don't care about either party. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
[–]MadTrini 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Did you see a swastika in your toast this morning?
[–]kmurphy246 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
"Pointing out leftist insanity is just Nazi dogwhistling, don't listen to anyone that questions liberal dogma, they're just trying to radicalize you!!!!"
Yeah, nah. If you actually believe that you're stupid.
[+]HugeMongo1 points 4 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
can you point me to that nazism you talk about in /r/honkler? I don't see pictures of hitler, swastikas, etc.
[–]drpeppershaker -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Top ALL. Not even that far down...
https://reddit.com/r/honkler/comments/byjws4/and_then_one_day_for_no_reason_at_all_the_german/
[–]tmone 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
citation please.
[+]spear117 -19 points-18 points-17 points 4 years ago* (12 children) | Copy Link
Take a look at /r/honkler.
EDIT: I think this subreddir isn't trying to promote Nazi thinking, but sorting by new, I found some... questionable posts.
Also, if you don't believe me, take a look at this post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/honkler/comments/bulx79/based_mussolini/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I'm pretty sure that post is against the fascist??
[–]spear117 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Look at the comments, those guys are commenting how "it's a shame that she is married". Does that say anything to you?
[–]ClubZlut 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
So anything that isn't regressive leftism is nazi, and therefore anyone being shoved from the left due to their lunacy is being "radicalized"... All the while ignoring the ACTUAL increasingly extreme and radical insanity coming from the left that is not only accepted, it's being actively supported..
Ok, friend. 🤡
[–]lastdazeofgravity 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Honk honk
/s
[–]Moblin81 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Frenworld has repeatedly made memes about bigoted things. An example being one where a brown ‘frog’ is ill and a group of Swedish frogs have to get rid of him because he’s contaminating them with sickness. The comment section was full of posts saying how the ‘Swedish frog’ had bacteria entering and destroying his white blood cells (emphasis white) with hundreds of upvotes. Someone linked me to a top minds post that had several of these posts about Jews, LGBT people, and non whites. They just hide under a veneer of memes to deny bigotry when confronted and say “crazy leftists seeing bigotry everywhere” to normalize their behavior.
[–]Dormant123 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To clarify, not all people who use the bathroom are Nazis... but some of them are.
[–]west_pac 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Did you know that oxygen is used by Nazis to promote their ideas because it allows them to continue to breathe?
#banoxygen
[–]LtChicken 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Everything that could offend me or others is a nazi dogwhistle"
[–]lazarljubenovic 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's because far-left see everyone as far-right and Neo Nazi. For them, pure existence of other human beings is a Neo Nazi Islamophobic Bigot Threat.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's not scary when you realize that twitter is a gigantic echo chamber. It's almost impossible to follow tweets that you are interested in and not be in a very tight knit echo chamber of whatever topics interest you.
[–]Jex117 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's scary considering people exactly like this have infiltrated into higher academia and the corporate world.
These people exist outside of twitter and reddit. They live in the real world, enacting their interests upon the rest of us.
Yeah, I'm aware, but sometimes the amount is astonishing. Even if only 50% is a real person (and not a multiple “personas” created by the same person, organizations, troll accounts, bots, etc), it's still crazy how some moronic “opinions” get 100k likes on Twitter.
[–]BlairResignationJam_ 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Everyone has a smart phone and internet these days. As far as crazy people posting stupid shit on twitter, this guy wouldn’t even make the top 1000. Worrying about screen caps of random nobody’s absurd social media posts is a losing game
[–]Lion_amongst_gods 98 points99 points100 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
If possible, someone should create a satire Twitter account to reply to posts like these by just replacing the opposite or other groups than the one in the main tweet, just to show their hypocrisy.
[–]Kyle-Is-My-Name 92 points93 points94 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
r/menkampf welcomes you my son.
[–]EricAllonde 58 points59 points60 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
r/menkampf is one of those things that's hilarious and also horrifying that it exists at the same time.
[–]sneakpeekbot 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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#1: Cancel Jewish People | 65 comments #2: I don't hate all Jews, only those Jews who get offended when I say "I hate Jews" | 23 comments #3: All Jews are Trash | 31 comments
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[–]Jex117 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The irony being it's only a matter of time before people start getting banned for posting there.
Meanwhile the original content stays up just fine.
[–]Kyle-Is-My-Name 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Edit: had to edit the damn thing 100 times to remember the sub name. Cheers.
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
That is horribly cringe worthy
How can so many people talk like that and be so hateful that they can literally embody Nazi rhetoric by just replacing the words of the people they hate with the word Jew....
[–]Kyle-Is-My-Name 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think you're misunderstanding the premise of the sub.
It takes an ACTUAL tweet from a person recently that says:
All I want for Christmas is white genocide.
And then they edit it to say:
All I want for Christmas is Jew genocode.
It just shows how closely our everyday rhetoric towards each other looks strikingly similar to the hate mongering of Nazi Germany.
It shows our hypocrisy. Nobody is actually hating on the Jews in that sub. Just highlighting how one-sided speech can get and still be publicly acceptable.
[–]ColonelVirus 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Because that's how the Nazi's won to begin with. They used peoples fears and hatred and directed it towards the Jews. A lot of people have some pretty mental gymnastic views, because they simply do not entertain another perspective (or care about it). We need discussions and to talk with as many people as possible. So you can double check your not a bigot.
[–]Jex117 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And the progression of authority. If they went from Step A directly to Step D, everyone would freak out, nobody would accept it.
But because they gradually push the progression onto society at large, nobody freaks out, nobody stands up, nobody speaks out. Step B isn't so much worse than Step A, and C wasn't much worse than B, until eventually we end up at The D.
[–]The_Best_01 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep, the "boiling frog" effect. This is also how positive change happens though, so it's not inherently bad or authoritarian.
[–]Mugin 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That twitter account would last a few hours before being perma banned for hatespeech.
[–]mattymatt360 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wouldn’t have enough time to do this but I’d love to see it
[–]Brusanan 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm sure it has been done, and the accounts were likely swiftly banned.
[–]peepeeandpoopooman 107 points108 points109 points 4 years ago (33 children) | Copy Link
Why? Because "WOMEN" are special and should have a get-out-of-jail-free card?
[–]mr-logician 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
It makes no sense why people believe in such special treatment for women...
[–]Jex117 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
It's biologically hardwired into our basic survival senses. One man can repopulate an entire tribe of women, but you can only lose so many women before the tribe itself is untenable.
[–]mr-logician 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That makes sense. Except that special treatment usually comes with less privilege.
[–]The_Best_01 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
Not to mention women being physically weaker.
[–]mr-logician 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
But wouldn’t that special treatment naturally come with less privilege?
[–]The_Best_01 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
Not really.
[–]mr-logician 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
It would because having more privilege in one area makes the scale imbalanced, so there needs to be a loss in privilege in another area, to make the privilege balanced.
[–]The_Best_01 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
If you can think of an instance where women have a lack of privilege, let me know. Your argument is flawed, logician.
[–]mr-logician 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Look at history!
[–]The_Best_01 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
While you could make the case that the fact they couldn't hold public office and most of the economic decisions came down to the men is a "lack of privilege" for women, doesn't mean there's a "privilege scale" as today clearly demonstrates.
[–]seraph85 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
The argument I've heard most is that "prison is harder on women"
[–]pacmatt27 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
It's funny cos it isn't.
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And men almost always get longer sentences anyways
[–]Farseer_Uthiliesh 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Well, yes and no. I worked as a psychologist in prisons for close to seven years. Female prisons are really difficult to work in for staff, but the female inmates are just awful to one another. It might have something to do with the higher proportion of borderline personality disorders in the population. In male prisons, the offenders tend to get organised and tasks get done. However, male offenders are treated like shit from custodial officers whereas female offenders are handled with kid gloves.
[–]pacmatt27 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
OK, so they're "just awful" to each other. How often do they rape or seriously physically assault one another? And can you provide statistics? If you don't have any to hand I'll research it myself.
[–]Farseer_Uthiliesh 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
The rates of physical assaults are high, but not as high as among male offenders, but the emotional harm is far in excess of what males engage in. But rape/sexual assault is not the only index of severity in a prison.
[–]pacmatt27 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I mean, I don't know about you but I'd rather be called a cunt or have my possessions stolen than be raped or have my legs broken. I'm not saying it's not bad but let's not compare the two. Pretty sure being raped or nearly murdered is fairly emotionally damaging too.
I'm a psychologist too, though I haven't worked in prison settings.
[–]Farseer_Uthiliesh 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No, you can't compare the two but also note that the rates of rape in prison are not as high as many believe. They are still awfully significant. But it's not just being called a cunt or legs being broken, there's a lot of emotional shit that can get inflicted between offenders.
> I'm a psychologist too, though I haven't worked in prison settings.
I enjoyed it, but the custodial staff are absolutely toxic to work with.
[–]pacmatt27 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Again I'd rather deal with that than risk getting raped or violently assaulted. Living in constant fear of that is damaging too, as well as the treatment by custodial staff. All I said was that women don't have it harder in prison. I didn't say they have it easier. Both are hard, in different ways. Personally I'd probably choose to be in a female prisoner rather than a male. Some would not. But both would definitely suck.
Hm, I can imagine that tbh.
[–]1800LackToast 89 points90 points91 points 4 years ago* (11 children) | Copy Link
I went to a bar on Saturday night and there was an all girl cover band playing. They had a girl with them who was going around with a tip bucket. She came up to us and explained, “The venue doesn’t pay the girls in the band but they let us collect tips.” She then put her arm around me, stood side by side with me, held out the bucket WHILE SHE ran her other hand down my back and grabbed my butt.
I was a little bit buzzed and in shock. After she had a few good squeezes, she hugged me and walked away. I told the group what happened and they all laughed it off.
Can you imagine if I had complained to the manager or security? They’d tell me to piss off. Can you imagine if it was a dude cover band who WAS ACCUSED of having a tip bucket guy grabbing asses? They’d be banned from the venue for life.
Edit: fixed a typo
[–]BattlestarFaptastula 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Probably thinks that sexually harassing a guy gets her tips. Which admittedly, in a bar, might sometimes work? Doesn't make it okay. If anything that makes it worse because that shows the double standard, and that men aren't allowed to find the same things uncomfortable.
[–]ClownFish2000 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Let me tell you a story. I was out at a bar with a friend and his wife (also my friend). Some woman comes up behind the husband and reaches under and through his legs to fully grab his frank and beans. He told the wife what just happened and the wife lost her fucking shit, of course. I literally grabbed her by the shirt and bra strap because she had a pool stick in hand and was going to run toward the offending woman with it. (We are close. It was no big deal, so SJ extremists shouldn't presume to know anything about my and this woman's friendship. I would have and have done the same to a guy, but they have no bra strap to grab.)
I talk her down, and she agrees to go with her husband to complain to management instead of braining this other woman with a pool stick. I let go after I think she's got her shit together and look away for a second. When I look back she's jogging across the room like a fucking tribal warrior with a spear for a pool stick held high bobbing up and down towards the offending woman.
"It's too late now", I thought. "Whatever happens is out of my hands." I'm just standing there with my jaw open hoping I don't have to help bail someone out of jail.
Fortunately no violence occurred but when the husband told the manager, the manager brushed it off. Then both husband and wife calmly (initially) explained that if a man had done that to a woman he would have been ejected without much regard for his physical safety. The manager still brushed it off, so they threatened to call the police right to the place and give a police report. Girl was told to leave finally. Funny how that works.
We still laugh about the image of the wife running across the room, pool stick held high, bobbing up and down like she was going to war.
I wonder if I'll get banned from a bunch of subs for posting here despite being 100% in support of women's rights. I just also happen to be 100% in support of equal rights for everyone and the elimination of double standards as we approach that ideal.
[–]1800LackToast 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Damn! The full crotch grab is bad!
[–]Farseer_Uthiliesh 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If a drunk male grabbed a woman's crotch he'd be in prison by the end of the week.
[+]RealJonRhinehart -44 points-43 points-42 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
r/thathappened
[–]jaqenmyhghar 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’ve had my ass grabbed by women at the bars expecting me to buy them a drink. It’s pretty damn common. So I order two drinks, pay for mine and walk away.
Just because no one wants to touch you doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.
[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're right.. A story of a female sexually assaulting a male couldn't possibly be real.
Cunt.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’ve seen stuff at bars happen lol I’m not shocked if it was made up but I also am not shocked if it really did happen.
[–]mvlock 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
another woman
"wow thats really make sense thx for ur wisdom"
[–]Mugin 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Only way I can understand this is the person is among those who believe the BS statements of modern feminism like "no women falsely accuse men of rape". And in it's simple mind equals the accused being aquitted with an automatic conclusion that the woman made a false accusation.
That or the person is an incredible bigot that is even more stupid than in the first explaination.
[–]redmaster_28273 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
" even when people don’t lie about rape " is one thing she said
[–]lifwithyourknees 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men would not be demanding jail time for lying about rape charges if a man's life was not destroyed for simply being accused of rape. Society takes women at their word and instantly judge the man as guilty before ANY evidence is shown.
[–]riversong75 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Okay I’m a woman and I think that anyone who makes a false claim of rape 100% should serve jail time. You purposely set out to harm another person in a way that would follow them for the rest of their lives. Unacceptable!
[–]it_comes[S] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thank you, I also believe that any rape allegations should be thoroughly investigated and the guilty party should be convicted without bias. Rape is a very serious crime and should be treated as such, not as a joke.
[–]riversong75 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree.
[–]whitedsepdivine 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So hypothetical, if a girl falsely is spreading rumors that a guy raped her friend. Not going to the police, but just spreading the rumors. Should this be an offense as well?
I only ask because in college, some bitch did this to me.
[–]riversong75 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think that it’s wrong for someone to do that but I’m not sure how that would be an offense. Unless it would fall under harassment. You can pretty much say what you want about anybody. You can accuse a person of theft or murder. It becomes an offense when they file a police report falsely imo.
[–]AtomBombBruno52 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Guess I gotta die now
[–]Dalinair 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She's batshit crazy and "needs to die tbh lol"
What's truly sad here is the amount of likes and re tweets this nut job has, seriously over 800 of you maniacs think people should actually die for thinking this?????
[–]epalsliphead 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Good thing I never touched my Twitter account again if I'm subjected to reading this horseshit everyday.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I deactivated mine a few years ago. I’m happy I did so ever since.
[–]fuyukihana 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
What they don't seem to get is that not being able to prove a rapist guilty is not the same as proving a victim guilty of lying about it. If it was, that would go against the innocent until proven guilty precedent. If indeed a failed rape prosecution did result automatically in the victim being charged with a false accusation, this would be truly horrific. There are far too many cases where it's a matter of not enough evidence being available to successfully get the charges to stick. Especially considering that in many cases there is evidence of penetration, but not evidence of lack of consent.
But I don't think any of us want to imprison victims simply because the rapist made the claim it was consensual and there was no tangible way to disprove that. I hope.
[–]it_comes[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
That's a good point, but you're also discounting how it affects the lives of innocent men when allegations like this fly. The Yale student is a perfect example of this.
[–]fuyukihana -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
They'd have the ability to turn around and charge the accusor for falsely reporting, ideally publicizing this to decrease the impact of the false accusation. Also as many people have mentioned in this thread, identifying men as the only ones involved in rape allegations asserts the idea that women are incapable of rape. How about the lives of innocent people?
[–]it_comes[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm not sure what your point really is. My point is clear. If you accuse someone of rape, male or female, you ruin their career, their personal lives and social relationships, and their future. They can't get away scot free after doing something that has something repercussions so serious.
[–]fuyukihana 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm saying that while it would be valid to allow people to charge someone with a case of falsely reporting after a rape case is dismissed or found not guilty, but that having a rape case dismissed or found not guilty should not result in an automatic criminal charge for the accuser. This is because the dismissal or not guilty verdict can mean there wasn't enough evidence to charge someone with rape, not that there is sufficient evidence that it did not happen and automatically is a case of false reporting because the charges didn't stick. There should be a separate trial to determine whether there's enough evidence that this was a fabrication.
[–]it_comes[S] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There should be a separate trial to determine whether there's enough evidence that this was a fabrication.
That's what the main trial is, though. Checking if there was truly a rape or if it was fabrication.
having a rape case dismissed or found not guilty should not result in an automatic criminal charge for the accuser.
Why? I believe this shouldn't be standard practice, but up to the judges to decide; In some cases, the convicted is acquitted due to lack of evidence, and in these cases what you're suggesting is correct. However, in cases where the convicted is proven innocent with proof means that the accuser was indeed lying, and thus a fine/jail time for defamation is viable.
[–]fuyukihana 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That is absolutely not the point of the first trial. The first trial determines only if there is enough evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that there was a rape. This does not necessarily meet the requirements to show without a reasonable doubt that there was NOT a rape occurring, and can ABSOLUTELY occur when there simply wasn't enough evidence in a case of actual rape. The problem is that some cases in which it is additionally clear that it did not happen cannot be categorized differently by our judicial system without a secondary trial showing that is the case as well beyond a reasonable doubt. If you were to force this to happen in the course of one trial, it would go against many existing laws an precedents. INAL, but I am aware of the rights of an individual to be assumed innocent until proven guilty. Assumed innocence that did not meet that standard does not prove guilt of the accuser, and there was never any assumed innocence for the accuser. That would be treating people differently under the law.
[–]BlackMesaIncident 30 points31 points32 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Remember folks, when they call you sexist, never defend yourself on that basis. Just say “I don’t have to justify myself to you”. Don’t get into the paradigm of “I’m not sexist, I just...” because then you’re naming them your judge.
When they call you sexist and tell you how to behave you say “FUCK OFF! You’re ugly, you’re a failure, you’re disease-ridden and fat, your parents don’t love you, and the world would be a better place if you and all of your ideological associates were publicly disemboweled.”
[–]BattlestarFaptastula 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Telling them they're ugly fat failures is only going to make them see you as a child. Fair enough to say 'I don't have to justify myself to you' but what exactly is the point in clapping back at them with insults? Just makes you appear to have no self-control.
[–]BlackMesaIncident 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Appear to whom? Do you think they care? They don’t care. Stop reasoning with SJW’s. They can’t be reasoned out of positions they weren’t reasoned into. They aren’t SJW’s because it’s logical. They’re SJW’s because they have shrunken malformed amygdalae and they need to constantly be in conflict with people over in order to avoid their own emotional anguish over their (very justified) feelings of inadequacy. Social justice advocacy enables them to momentarily escape pain by inflicting it onto other people. Or by replacing it with rage. But if you can hit them where they’re vulnerable, and hard enough, you’ll actually leave a lasting impact. Small perhaps, but a lasting impact.
You need to think of the culture war like phalanx warfare. You might be as many as 5 ranks deep in the formation, but your effort will add a couple of drops of force to the effort. You won’t see the effects your effort. In fact, the first rank of your formation won’t see the effects of your effort. But you might help cause someone to fall over 4 or 5 ranks deep in your enemy’s formation. And that’s how you end up winning.
Likewise, when SJW’s try to hurt you, you hurt them back. When one of their ugly pussing compatriots is in emotional duress and asks them for support, they’ll have just a little bit more doubt about themselves in giving it. And now you’ve multiplied your output.
You have to remember, these abhumans shriek that we are racist homophobes who live in their mothers’ basement and who can’t get laid. That’s largely based in the projection. SJW’s (male and female) tend to have the typically female characteristic of being more group oriented. They feel threatened by the idea words and what other people say. So they think that’s the best way to hurt other people. So it’s simple. Just hurt them the same way. They’ll shut up eventually. Just to avoid the pain.
You guys gotta take the culture war more seriously. Read SJW’s Always Lie by Vox Day. And then proceed to SJW’s Always Double Down.
Gotta say it makes sense. I wish it didn't, but it does.
[–]steamedhamjob 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This, minus the insults at the end
[–]BlackMesaIncident 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You don’t need the insults, but it’s really better for us all if you include them.
[–]alc0 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well put.
[–]illeaturshit4money69 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fuck this toxic shit
[–]Ulriklm 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's gotta be a troll, nobody can be that stupid
[–]JBrody 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What I was thinking.
[–]TruBlue 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Feminism is cancer, Mgtow is the surgeon!
[–]JustAnotherAussie1 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this makes me almost cry
[–]DanteLivra 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Lol"
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Scary how many likes and Ty’s this has
[–]Chrisfish11 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank God she said lol at the end.
[–]tttulio 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The worse os that she believes this only harms men. No, every false accuser may festry the life of a man or she gets caught and makes harder for REAL rape victims to come forward for fear of not being believed.
[–]I-Hate-Reddit-Mods 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Man leftists are so progressive I'm so glad they exist /s
[–]Frontfart 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Adults ending their statements with "lol" should be ignored.
[–]Mongrel06 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"If you think womanz should be punished for committing heinous acts then you are fuckin' stooooopeeeed, hurr-uh-durrrrr."
She's a grown adult spouting nonsense like this. Freaking idiot.
[–]reddittor8974 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I love the casual “lol” at the end
[–]rationalthought314 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
but perjury is a jail-able offense
[–]deyjay5 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I believe that anybody who falsely accuses someone of rape should get the exact same amount of jail time the falsely accused would have received had they been found guilty.
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (75 children) | Copy Link
i just want to post this link here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBselaIy66E
It's a vid by 'The Amazing Lucas' published on june 14th, in the time since then, a little over 2 days, it has 217k views, 21 THOUSAND thumbs up and one hundred fifty seven down.
The vid is about blatantly false accusations of sexual offenses and calls for harsh punishment of the the women who make them.
I see a lot of this type of thing, it seems clear that everyone knows the truth, accusations of rape and sexual assault are and always have been nearly all false.
A woman who claims to have been a victim of sex crime should be regarded with the same healthy skepticism as if she had claimed to see a ghost, or bigfoot, or been abducted by aliens.
there are cameras everywhere these days, and every single time one catches the purported crime in progress, there was no such crime.
[–]JaxJags904 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (38 children) | Copy Link
Man I can’t agree with “accusations of rape and sexual assault are and always have been nearly all false.” You have stats for that? These comments make us seem as crazy as feminists.
Most accusations cannot be proven true or false, and for those we unfortunately have to just let them go. It’s the accusations that are PROVEN false that need to be punished.
And don’t equate someone coming out about rape to someone seeing a ghost, Bigfoot etc. it needs to be treated like any other crime, not some wild goose chase.
[–]BlackMesaIncident -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Something worth mentioning. Try folding in all of the sexual assault allegations that never go through the legal system. Think of all the times women make up stories that they don’t report. And think of all of the times women think they’re assaulted when they really aren’t. The reality is, this is correct.
[–]JaxJags904 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
So because many women are liars it means most women are sexually assaulted.
Come on man, this is the kind shit that makes people think we’re women haters. Most rape accusations are not false, it’s between 2-10% that are proven false. That is a lot and those people should face consequences, but you have no data to back up what you are saying except how you “feel,” which is how feminists argue.
[–]BlackMesaIncident 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Well there is no data on allegations that are not made to the police. But we do know that it is very common for women to tell their friends and acquaintances that they’ve been sexually assaulted. They don’t need to go to the police to get the intended effect of their allegation. This happens way more than allegations made to the police (more than 2-10% of which turn out to be false; that study was extremely stringent in its basis for evidence).
[–]JaxJags904 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
So you want someone who lies to her friend to be punished?
So any lie, even if not made to the police, is a crime now?
[–]BlackMesaIncident 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Did I say that? Or are you getting a little ahead of yourself there?
[–]JaxJags904 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
This whole post is about false accusations being punished and you started talking about girls telling their friends they were raped. How is that relevant if that’s not the point your making?
[–]BlackMesaIncident 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
It’s not. I mean unless you’re just genuinely asking in earnest, but you don’t exactly seem to be. But you should read what I said. First, the discussion became very much more about deriding someone for making a true (or rhetorically true) statement. So I saw fit to enter by presenting something that I felt was “worth mentioning”.
[–]JaxJags904 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
A true statement is “nearly all rape accusations all false.” ??
That is NOT a true statement, is not backed up by any facts, and makes us look like assholes.
[–]PeterPumpkinHead91 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Nice feminist statistics.
[–]JaxJags904 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
That’s a true statistic, 2-10% are proven false. Feminists like to just use that 2% number tho
[–]PeterPumpkinHead91 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
From where? Feminist Weekly?
[–]JaxJags904 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Have you never seen the “only 2% of rape accusation are false” thrown around? I see it all the time
[–]PeterPumpkinHead91 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep.
[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
they are nearly all false, they always have been.
We could make it a crime to consort with spirits, anyone who sees a ghost must be prosecuted, only those cases where it can be proven will be convicted - of course, most cases can never be proven, it's just a question of what your standard of proof is.
we could decide that the word of a good christian woman is unimpeachable proof. After all, why would any good woman lie about such a grave matter, exposing not only her own soul to damnation but endangering the spiritual health of the whole community, not to mention the poor soul whom she had accused?
[–]JaxJags904 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
Just keep making up statistics man, you have NOTHING to show that they are “nearly all false.”
STOP ACTIG LIKE FEMINISTS. MEN USE STATS AND REAL FACTS NO THESE BULLSHIT FEELINGS.
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
false equivalency, centrist fallacy, bullshit.
If i were acting like a feminist i would be claiming that women do not like sex, sex is harmful, men do it to women and must be stopped. i would claim that no woman could ever consent to sex, that no woman could lie, and that there are millions of unreported rapes every day in the US.
You are acting like a parrot. You hears someone say that defending men was 'acting like a feminist' at some point and just started repeating it.
i don't want to put words in your mouth, maybe what you meant to say was that i was acting in a tribal, partisan way. That i was claiming 'men never lie' in the same way that feminists claim women never do - but you did not say that and if you had you would have been lying.
I am in fact acting like a rational man who has observed the simple truth that , like ghosts, rape is something you see in movies a lot, and hear a lot of stories about, but never see caught on film or happen in real life.
Like alien abductions, rape is something that causes undetectable harm to a woman, she will cry and emote about her pain - but the doctor can find nothing wrong with her.
in every case where there is evidence, like with bigfoot, that evidence turns out to be fabricated.
of men charged with rape there are 3 types, men who get convicted even tho there is no evidence against them, men who get convicted despite evidence that clears them, and men who are not convicted but everyone still believes they did it.
[–]JaxJags904 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
I’m saying you’re acting like a feminist by pulling bullahit “stats” like “nearly all rape accusations are false.”
Until you produce statistics to back that up, you are no better than the feminists who claim nearly all rape accusations are true.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
'Stats, squack! Stats!' - and i doubt you have any greater understanding of the word that a parrot might.
i mean, the stats are out there, if you give a rats ass go look, i can't be bothered.
what IS interesting to me personally is the simple fact that there is NO EVIDENCE of bigfoot, and yet people believe. There is NO EVIDENCE of alien abduction, and yet people believe, there is NO EVIDENCE of ghosts, and yet people believe - and i see a STRONG similarity between these things and the fact that people believe rape with NO EVIDENCE.
Duke lacrosse, Tawana Brawley, the central park jogger, the rolling stone campus rape hoax, Brett Kavanaugh, just a few of the 'lucky' ones, who were finally proven innocent.
Why is it, in your opinion, why does EVERY SINGLE rape of sexual assault allegation that comes to national attention and is investigated turn out to be false? And why do you continue to believe that some of them MUST be true?
[–]JaxJags904 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Yes, lots of accusations false. I’ve never denied that. I would also assume that part of the reason many cases you know about end up being false is because they are against rich/famous people. These cases draw lots of attention, and also are more likely to be false since there is a benefit for the accuser since they are going after powerful people.
That doesn’t mean “nearly all rape accusations are false.” That statement is what I’m arguing. It has no basis in fact and is simply you guessing. Saying that is no better than saying “believe women.”
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
i dissagree. i watch a lot of videos of real life conflict, and there are thousands of them available.
a woman in any kind of tough situation, the whole thing on film, a cop, a protester, any authority figure confronts her - she shouts rape, she says 'I'm pregnant' she cries, like theyt are all working from the same script.
and having SEEN so many of them happen in real time - laughably false claims of rape or violence, and having seen SO many of them happen in slow motion, national news stories of rape and violence that turn out to be false, and having NEVER in all that corpus of film seen an actual rape happen, or seen an actuall 'woman beater' , having seen only women hitting men, in real life and in these videos - I believe the evidence.
nearly all rape and sexual assault claims are false, 99.9999999% of them, and the more false accusations there are, the higher that number gets.
maybe at one time they were only 70 or 80% false, but the sex panic has added more and more false claims, so that even if the number of real incidents has remained constant it has become an ever smaller and smaller percentage of the claims.
[–]JaxJags904 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Yeah dude you’re right, 99.9999999% of rape accusation are false. With all those studies and stats is you have to back it up it’s pretty hard to argue with you. /s
[–]Kensin 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link
why does EVERY SINGLE rape of sexual assault allegation that comes to national attention and is investigated turn out to be false?
That's a lie. Larry Nassar is only one of many examples, but one is all that's needed when you make indefensible statements like "EVERY SINGLE" rape or sexual assault allegation that make national news was a false accusation. Give is up. You have no evidence to support your claims and mocking people for pointing that out isn't doing you any favors.
I get that you're angry and hurt about something but please make sure your rage is directed in the right place and because the facts aren't on your side, it's clearly time to reassess your position.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
mere hyperbole, as i said elsewhere in the thread, the rate of false accusations may once have been as low as 70 or 80 %, but since many more false accusers have sprung up, and actual rapes continue to be extremely rare, the percentage is currently well above 99%.
don't like it? too bad.
i am neither angry nor hurt, i am mildly amused at the tenaciously willful naivete of this crowd, but here we are in 2019, on reddit, where most of the people one encounters are young men who have never met a woman other than their mothers, and who believe every lie those monstrous sows told them.
let me guess, you remember your dad, he always seemed nice to you, but after he left your mom told you how awful and abusive he was, he cheated on her, he hit her, she dindu nuffin, the woman was a saint, dad man bad.
am I close?
[–]Kensin 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
let me guess, you remember your dad, he always seemed nice to you, but after he left your mom told you how awful and abusive he was, he cheated on her, he hit her, she dindu nuffin, the woman was a saint, dad man bad. am I close?
Not remotely, but of course, that's irrelevant because, you have zero evidence supporting your claims. Strongly held opinions aren't facts and just because something feels true to you, that doesn't make it real. I don't know if you just come here to make the rest of us look bad, or if you're just broken as a person, but either way you're not healthy and you should seek some help.
[–]LordOfGallifrey42 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link
Claiming that they are nearly all false is a similar to claiming they are nearly all true. For something like 80% of claims we just don't know and have no way to find out. Don't act like you have special magic knowledge of the world that you can't possibly have. We just need to use the knowledge we do have to properly deal with crimes we can reasonably prove.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link
Bullshit.
The people who claim that even with no evidence we must believe that all men are rapists, that even with no accusations we must believe that 1 in 5 girls are raped in school, that women never lie - these are the people claiming special knowledge.
A woman who accuses a man of rape, SHE is claiming special knowledge, she claims to know the man has raped her, it is up to HER to prove it.
[–]LordOfGallifrey42 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link
Yes, they are claiming special knowledge too. There is something like 2-10% provably false claims (maybe more if we actually investigated as thoroughly as we should). Then there are provably true claims which should hopefully correspond to the conviction rate. I don't care to look it up right now because the exact number isn't relevant so lets say 10%. That leaves 80% of claims as a known unknown. We shouldn't take punitive action either way in this case because we can't reasonably say if a crime occurred (either a rape or a false accusation).
Do you accept that both you and the feminists don't know beyond a reasonable doubt what happened in those 80% of cases? Are you not on an equal footing? Saying that all accusers in these cases should be considered liars would be an equivalent statement to saying all accused should be considered rapists. Both are presupposing that a serious crime has been committed. If it is wrong for the feminists to do it then it is wrong for MRAs to do it.
The problems I see is that we don't prosecute the provably false claims and that colleges and the court of public opinion do punish the 80% of unknown claims. Lets focus on changing those things.
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link
2 - 10% 'provably false' that means he had an iron clad alibi, he was out of the country, he was on film, something like that. These men are innocent.
80% 'unknown' - these men are also innocent, as are all men, until proven guilty.
thats 82-90 % false / unprovable claims.
of the convicted, they are also 80 - 90% falsely accused, but evidence that cleared them was not allowed at trial, or no investigation was done in the first place.
how many Bigfoot sightings would you say are 'provably false'?
[–]LordOfGallifrey42 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link
WTF man. Rape does happen sometimes. You have some serious bias. Readjust to try to match reality a little bit.
[–]JaxJags904 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What’s scaring me is I don’t believe this guy is a troll. What sucks is that when many people think or MRAs, they think of this asshole.
[–]Kensin 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What’s scaring me is I don’t believe this guy is a troll.
He(?) isn't a normal redditor either. In the last two years nearly every comment he's made was here in this subreddit. Does this guy have no other interests at all? The account goes back 6 years and yet again, submissions are 99% one subreddit. If this account wasn't created to make this place look bad it's certainly got some kind of very specific mission.
[–]JaxJags904 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hate bans in subreddits, but that’s a guy to ban
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
it's cool, I'm used to it.
Lots of people believe in ghosts. They have never SEEN a ghost, most of them will not claim to have sen one, but they know someone who has.
rape is like that.
like bigfoot, like little green men, like jesus, like so many things - in what way do you believe that your belief in rape and sexual violence - which i already know you have never seen with your own eyes (since it does not exist) is different from these other beliefs?
[–]JaxJags904 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
You’re totally right, no women has ever been raped. Rape is exactly like Bigfoot and ghosts.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
good. now let that roll around in there a while, i think you'll find the '/s' fades over time. Just keep trying (and failing) to prove it TO YOURSELF, just try to hold on to that '/s'.
[–]JaxJags904 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Do you really think rape doesn’t exist? How dense are you to think rape isn’t a thing?
I’ve never seen anyone murdered, does that mean people don’t get murdered?
You’re a dumbass
[–]LordOfGallifrey42 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
"I have a pet cat" and "I have a pet tyrannosaurus that is possessed by a demon" are not equal claims. You can't completely confirm or deny either but I hope it would take a hell of a lot more evidence for you to believe the second one. I would need to see a ghost with my own eyes, have at least a few other people see it to confirm, and not have any reasonable alternative explanation before I started to believe in ghosts. I don't need nearly such strong evidence to believe that some people commit rape.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
only because you believe that rape is common, and you believe that ghosts are rare (or do not exist)
so you have 'priors' in the Bayesian sense, and it will take a HUGE amount of evidence to overcome your strong belief that rape exists.
but notice, it took ZERO evidence to build that strong belief, to establish the priors, it took just a lot of stories.
you have also herd a lot of ghost stories, but you have herd people arguing against them as well, so you have only a weak prior belief that ghosts do not exist, you would need only one or 2 well documented cases to overcome it.
you have access to hundreds of examples of false rape accusations. you can watch them happen in real time every day on this website, maybe you believe that false rape accusations DO exist, thats fine - where is the evidence of rape? what besides scary stories is that belief based on?
[–]LordOfGallifrey42 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Stories are evidence. I have heard stories of rape from people I trust and who I don't think would benefit from lying to me about it and I updated my priors accordingly. I don't 100% believe them, of course, but I have to take it into account. Why would I just ignore that evidence? Similarly, I have heard stories of false accusations and updated my priors accordingly.
Like Carl Sagan said "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." The existence of ghosts is an extraordinary claim that would imply that there are huge branches of physics that we just failed to notice as well as huge implications for other fields like psychology and AI.
Rape just requires me to believe that people want sex, are self interested, and think they can get away with it. All of which I already have very high priors for. I have similar reasons for believing that some people lie about rape. They want to punish someone or avoid consequences, are self interested, and think they can get away with it.
I myself have done sexual things that I would consider bad. I can say very confidently that I am at least in the 20th percentile of well behaved people. So given that at least 20% of the population is likely to do something worse than what I would do I have to believe that there is at least some sexual assault going on somewhere.
Like I said before. You have some really strong bias. Unless you have some good reason to believe that your powers of perception are that much better than everyone else you should really realign your priors to take into account that everyone else is not either a liar or really gullible.
[–]goodmod 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Please make this a post on its own. It deserves wider coverage.
[–]rosellem 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, wider coverage so we can mock it and laugh at it.
accusations of rape and sexual assault are and always have been nearly all false.
Nearly ALL false? Are you kidding me? That's an absurd claim. This deserves it's own post...on /r/insanepeoplefacebook
[–]JaxJags904 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, this guy in the other part of this thread seriously told me 99.9999999% of rape accusations are false.
It’s these people that make us all look bad.
[–]MemeroniPeperoni 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
He makes us look just as bad as the radicals on the other side, it sucks he goes around throwing his "facts" out there while claiming to be a MRA
Yep
[–]DepressedEmu1111 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ugh what a fuckin pg stupid bitch
[–]fogoticus 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pure disgusting hypocrisy. This is the type of woman who advocates for women rights but in the same time makes an extra effort to go against men.
What this woman doesn't understand is that we're in 2019. Equality is as important as it ever was and that is why the "women are more emotional, they should get a pussy pass" mentality is toxic and should just be thrown out the window. If a man has serious, severe repercussions, a woman shouldn't be given any form of forgiveness in this situation.
Lying is bad. Deal with it and stop trying to make it sound like it's ok or healthy for a woman to do. If it's bad for a man to do, it's bad for a woman to do, point.
[–]PhireFoenix 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
you're just plain fucking stupid and need to die tbh lol
no u
[–]RedPilledBAMF 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They need the death penalty.
[–]CarlosGarriz 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wanna see what she says to people saying how wrong that is
[–]Remote_Cantaloupe 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Twitter is okay with people making death threats?
[–]Badboyz4life 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Her vote matters just as much as yours.
[–]jacShigs 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
IRONNNYYYYYYYYYY!!!!
[–]nickvtorres 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The number of likes and retweets in this type of shit is always worse than the actual tweet
Well at least women are getting jail time for such lies, albeit not enough.
[–]KnightofNarg 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All those likes is what is most concerning. Social media gives a platform for these crazies to gather with a voice and support each other in their lunacy.
That thot got destroyed in the comments
[–]McFeely_Smackup 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She wishes death on people who don't agree with her irrational opinion. nice.
[–]GamingMoments101 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women likes to speak and always say about their knowledge, but they don't do it irl. I've seen a lot of women fight or rant about something but isn't doing it irl. Damn hypocrites. Not saying all women, but some of them.
[–]jsxtasy304 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She a seriously sad excuse for a human being and anyone else who thinks like her... Shame on you. Of course woman need to be put in jail for falsely accusing someone of something as horrifying as rape and ruining their lives and for as an an equal reason that this devalues real rape survivors. Anyone and especially women that would keep company with her or be friends with her need to rethink what she's saying because she thinks very little of you, very little of anyone other than someone else who hates men and would stoop to any level to hurt and Humiliate one.
[–]The_Eraser123 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How the fuck can anyone think this is okay? Like I legit want to hear her justification for why she thinks this is okay
This just boils my fucking blood.
She thinks it’s okay for women to lie about rape??? That could ruin a persons LIFE. Stupid bitch...
[–]wentzach 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What an idiot lol.
Tip of the day my friends: you can say insulting shit if you just end it in lol!
[–]NecroHexr 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fortunately the comments absolutely destroy her, but as usual, she's not listening and posted a series of Tweets saying she doesn't care
Her header shows a dude with her, that poor sod.
[–]Sonicmooo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't know why, but the fact that she says "tbh lol" is what makes this post. God I can't stand it.
[–]AmericanMurderLog 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you write stuff like this on Twitter, you are an idiot. No judge or jury necessary.
I love this. Give it another five years, once the corporations are sick of grovelling to these fucking babies, and you’re going to see a huge swing back towards conservatism. It’ll be their fault, too.
[–]Dizz72 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Despacito03 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And why exactly? (The tweet, not the post itself)
[–]photoedfade 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"you're just plain fucking stupid and need to die tbh lol"
how to tell everyone you're a psychopath in one single step:
it doesn't matter wether your a nazi, or a christian, or feminist, or a mens right advocate, no one deserves to die.
[–]rahsoft 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you think WOMEN need to do jail time for "lying about rape" you're just plain fucking stupid and need to die tbh lol
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If you think MEN need to do jail time because you chose to lie about a very serious crime and you also commit perjury, then you are so retarded you need a mental health support worker. You also need to be tarred, feathered,shamed and paraded through a capital city as an example of abuse of the justice system.
I would also like to think you should be sterilised so we can breed this kind of stupidity out of the human race , but I think most people would think I'm going too far...
[–]filledwithawesomness 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
People saying that other people are stupid or wrong without explaining the reasons why they think they are stupid or wrong, are usually the stupid people
[–]Spikytoy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What she means is (am I mansplaining?!) Women that accuse men of rape (and have raped) that are found not guilty should not go to jail.
We have a problem where too many women are raped and too many men are falsely accused and both can ruin lives. Having known a convicted rapist and having been raped (by forced penetration), there is no easy fix for either.
Rape isn’t a race. Responsibility is required by everyone. Men’s rights should (and I’m sure does) abhor rape of any gender. Feminists should (and I’m sure do) abhor false accusations. Education for both genders is needed and not just in when it happens but how to identify when it going to happen and prevent it.
The more I think about it, the more I think this (and every other feminist/men’s rights issue) is about class and wealth. NOT GENDER.
The big headlines are always about a rich boy that did this, or a rich girl that got away with that.
It’s class and wealth absolutely. Gender has nothing to do with anything
[–]Jordandavis7[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bearing false witness will not go unpunished
[–]johnnysins_2 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
810 spends liked the post
[–]FemaleIsEasyMode 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It seems the idea of charging women for false accusations is picking up steam. Maybe it will be part of a politicians next platform.
[–]tvking6789 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well she's downright naive, gullible and lacks an intelligence quotient to believe that she nor another woman as would any low class man I'm sure, would be level headed and not lie about someone when they piss them off....sure......😒
I made the mistake of looking her up on twitter. now I have cancer.
[–]wafflepiezz 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fuck feminists like her and all of her supporters who agreed with what she said. Absolutely pathetic that they can tell “men can go die” and face zero repercussions.
Modern day feminism is truly a fucking joke that caters towards empowering women and downplaying men.
[–]buckeye111 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This person is a troll.
Need to DIE? Does this person even know what it means to DIE?
[–]charlierocky 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wym lying about rape in quotation marks. Are you stupid. Literally happens all the time?
[–]GmanTEM 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is why we need gulags.
[–]Deja_Siku 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Judging by this person’s avatar, I’m not sure they know the difference between women and men in the first place.
[–]Redhead-Rising 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh! I am a woman and wonder why the biggest idiots always are the loudest! Edit: to add that I think the lady who originally posted this should NOT reproduce!
[–]applesauce0101 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What an asshole. Who would belive that ruining someones life is okay.
[–]spoonlicker3000 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
People like that woman make me FUCKING SICK
[–]Crazybusylife3 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She sounds like a genius.
I can't even take her post seriously, it's so ignorant.
[–]lolreallyfoo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She's cancerous as fuck, and thankfully most people wouldn't pay any attention to her.
This does seem to be fairly typical of the content on this sub, though; 6 month old tweets from internet nobodies. Doesn't this kind of devalue the movement as a whole?
[–]MrRuidiaz 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dumb b
[–]batfish55 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hey, it's cool. It's also why I browse MGTOW2 more than any other sub. It's amazing how fast my bank account is swelling. And no worries about sexual misconduct!
[–]DespairOfLoneliness 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good thing they made guns legal in america
[–]Tater-Tot_917 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yea because theres totally nothing wrong with trying to ruin an innocent mans life out of spite/revenge or anything.
[–]SpookWaver 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is a crime to do that.
[–]GoldenToiletPaper 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
wE SHoUlDN't gO tO JaIL FoR SPReADinG FaLSe RUmOr tO FuCK UP SOmEOnE lIFe
[–]benderXX 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If she has a son please have social services remove him from the house.
wow -_-
[–]maastaar-D 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Now this one......you should harass
[–]Jade_3846 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Imagine if a man posted the same thing but women replace with men but because it's a woman it's seen as ok
So since feminist want equal rights men should be allowed to ruin a woman's life with false allocations with no consciences or backlash from the media
Well I think she in particular needs a severe beating.
[–]the_denizen 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I guess that makes two of us against the wall then, bitch.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's her antidepressant meds folks. Men cum and dump her because she is a shit person that no one can stay with, so from her inner worthlessness, hatred spews.
[+]harassmaster -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
It is the perfect example of why men think subs like this are necessary, yes. A person with no power, no influence, few twitter followers, and no discernible credibility on the subject, sends out a dumbass tweet and it makes it to the front of this subreddit.
The irony, y’all. It’s gonna hit you one day like a piano at terminal velocity.
[–]it_comes[S] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Same answer I gave to another comment.
Because people like this exist and are fighting against men's rights. It's not just one person, and the post isn't just about this person. It's about this mentality. The whole #metoo movement was full of shit accusations. Even now, there are women pushing this agenda of how there are no rape accusations. Men are scared to be alone with women, especially in the corporate workplace. The Yale case of "rape" where the student was expelled even though he won in court.
[–]harassmaster -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
To assert that “the whole #metoo movement was full of shit accusations” is not only not true, it ignores and obscures the reality that the movement was full of a range of so many actual, credible allegations of things that were just accepted as the norm until they were examined by the public eye. From Louis CK to Matt Lauer to Les Moonves. How much time do you dedicate talking about these men, and what do you say about them?
Men are scared to be alone with women, especially the corporate workforce
There is so much wrong with this type of thinking. This is what MRAs don’t get. Being “scared” to be with women means that you harbor an organic belief which says that men and women cannot be among each other in social settings without there existing some sort of natural sexual undertone that is to be exploited and that, by resisting this urge, men are somehow backed into a corner on the issue. Not only does your way of thinking deny LGBTQ+ life, it is simply unverifiable. You can’t cite a study, you can’t even point to an anecdote. You just come on Reddit or probably go to your local dive bar with your buddies and whisper your nonsense (you have to whisper, remember, you’re under attack).
[–]tmone 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
im a little confused as to why you have to go a be a dick, really? does it get more attention? do people take you more seriously?
well fuck it. civility out the window i guess.
Not only does your way of thinking deny LGBTQ+ life
the fuck does this even mean? are you aware that in the military two sexes are not allowed to be alone with one another? yeah. its regs. please tell me this too is "denying lgbtq life."
You can’t cite a study, you can’t even point to an anecdote
uh about what dude? can you be more specific?
Being “scared” to be with women means that you harbor an organic belief which says that men and women cannot be among each other in social settings without there existing some sort of natural sexual undertone that is to be exploited and that
are you suggesting false accusations don't happen? because that is why men are now refusing to work alone with women. what in the world are you even talking about here???
The FBI report says 2 to 10 percent of rape accusations are false. This is the statistic feminists often use because it makes it seem like 98 to 90 percent of accusations are true. In fact only around 32% of accusations are found to be true, the remaining 68% are either proven false or are considered baseless seeing as how there isn't enough evidence to convict anyone.
we just realize that it takes just one word from a disgruntled female and your life is ruined.
[–]harassmaster -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
are you aware that in the military two sexes are not allowed to be alone with one another?
...so? I do not want to live in a society that even remotely resembles the American military. Weird thing to bring up tbh.
The FBI report says 2 to 10 percent of rape accusations are false. This is the statistic feminists often use because it makes it seem like 98 to 90 percent of accusations are true. In fact only around 32% of accusations are found to be true, the remaining 68% are either proven false or are considered baseless seeing as how there isn’t enough evidence to convict anyone
Cite your sources, kiddo!
disgruntled female
lmaooooooo the rest of us shut you off when you talk this way. It’s embarrassing. You’re just mad you have no game and can’t get laid.
[–]tmone 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
so? I do not want to live in a society that even remotely resembles the American military. Weird thing to bring up tbh.
you claimed such a thing denied the lgbtq their lives or some shit. its funny because i have literally never heard of such a thing. you would think we would have by now since the mil has done things that way for at least 2 decades.
thats my point. explain that shit.
You’re just mad you have no game and can’t get laid.
youre realllly going for that angle? you dont think that maybe repeating old npc insults isnt going to stick every time? what then?
im curious to see where you go now.
edit
i looked back and saw more of where you went wrong:
Men are scared to be alone with women, especially the corporate workforc
op wasnt talking about the mra who are afraid. he was referring to men in general.
so there goes that argument too.
so again, i ask:
the fuck does this even mean?
[–]it_comes[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You accused Louis CK? Are you kidding me? I think that's all I need to read, since you come off as someone trying to sound like he knows what he's talking about, but clearly doesn't. I'll repeat it one more time; Louis CK asked and got for consent. He's the perfect example of an innocent man hit by the fuck all movement, moron. You just proved yourself wrong! Do you even know how many women accused him of harassment, or what their situations were? I researched into Louis specifically for a few days, and I'd say I know what I'm talking about. But judging by your assertions, you don't.
There is so much wrong with this type of thinking. This is what MRAs don’t get. Being “scared” to be with women means that you harbor an organic belief which says that men and women cannot be among each other in social settings without there existing some sort of natural sexual undertone that is to be exploited and that, by resisting this urge, men are somehow backed into a corner on the issue.
Lmao, no. What it means is that men are scared that some crazy bitch will falsely accuse them of rape/sexual harassment for no reason, and no one will be around to testify that it's not true.
Not only does your way of thinking deny LGBTQ+ life, it is simply unverifiable. You can’t cite a study, you can’t even point to an anecdote.
First off, what? The LGBTQ never came up, and what exactly are you asking for a study about? The point you made up yourself? Stop creating strawmen (yes, that's what it means - I've encountered most people who just say the word but don't know what it means. It means making up your own argument of mine and then attacking it yourself.) I'll be happy to provide studies or anecdotes of what you want, if I just knew what it was.
You just come on Reddit or probably go to your local dive bar with your buddies and whisper your nonsense (you have to whisper, remember, you’re under attack).
Okay, buddy. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
[–]harassmaster 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don’t need to continue my side of the conversation with someone who openly defends Louis CK. This was reported on and vetted by reporters for one of the most reputable news outlets in the world. But you “researched into Louis specifically for a few days” so, lmao, I guess that’s it. You don’t even realize how absurd you sound.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/arts/television/louis-ck-sexual-misconduct.html
A fifth woman, who spoke on condition of anonymity to protect her family’s privacy because she has not been publicly linked to the incident with Louis C.K., also has disturbing memories about an incident with the comedian. In the late ’90s, she was working in production at “The Chris Rock Show” when Louis C.K., a writer and producer there, repeatedly asked her to watch him masturbate, she said. She was in her early 20s and went along with his request, but later questioned his behavior.
For Christ’s sake, one of the women didn’t even name herself. I’m sure she was lying. Early-20s. Shame.
In 2003, Abby Schachner called Louis C.K. to invite him to one of her shows, and during the phone conversation, she said, she could hear him masturbating as they spoke. Another comedian, Rebecca Corry, said that while she was appearing with Louis C.K. on a television pilot in 2005, he asked if he could masturbate in front of her. She declined.
Sounds consensual!
I guess his own words weren’t fucking enough for you people (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/10/arts/television/louis-ck-statement.html):
These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was O.K. because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn’t a question. It’s a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. I have been remorseful of my actions. And I’ve tried to learn from them. And run from them. Now I’m aware of the extent of the impact of my actions. I learned yesterday the extent to which I left these women who admired me feeling badly about themselves and cautious around other men who would never have put them in that position. I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn’t want to hear it. I didn’t think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it. There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with. I wish I had reacted to their admiration of me by being a good example to them as a man and given them some guidance as a comedian, including because I admired their work. The hardest regret to live with is what you’ve done to hurt someone else. And I can hardly wrap my head around the scope of hurt I brought on them. I’d be remiss to exclude the hurt that I’ve brought on people who I work with and have worked with who’s professional and personal lives have been impacted by all of this, including projects currently in production: the cast and crew of Better Things, Baskets, The Cops, One Mississippi, and I Love You, Daddy. I deeply regret that this has brought negative attention to my manager Dave Becky who only tried to mediate a situation that I caused. I’ve brought anguish and hardship to the people at FX who have given me so much The Orchard who took a chance on my movie. and every other entity that has bet on me through the years. I’ve brought pain to my family, my friends, my children and their mother. I have spent my long and lucky career talking and saying anything I want. I will now step back and take a long time to listen. Thank you for reading.
These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was O.K. because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn’t a question. It’s a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. I have been remorseful of my actions. And I’ve tried to learn from them. And run from them. Now I’m aware of the extent of the impact of my actions. I learned yesterday the extent to which I left these women who admired me feeling badly about themselves and cautious around other men who would never have put them in that position. I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn’t want to hear it. I didn’t think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it. There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with. I wish I had reacted to their admiration of me by being a good example to them as a man and given them some guidance as a comedian, including because I admired their work.
The hardest regret to live with is what you’ve done to hurt someone else. And I can hardly wrap my head around the scope of hurt I brought on them. I’d be remiss to exclude the hurt that I’ve brought on people who I work with and have worked with who’s professional and personal lives have been impacted by all of this, including projects currently in production: the cast and crew of Better Things, Baskets, The Cops, One Mississippi, and I Love You, Daddy. I deeply regret that this has brought negative attention to my manager Dave Becky who only tried to mediate a situation that I caused. I’ve brought anguish and hardship to the people at FX who have given me so much The Orchard who took a chance on my movie. and every other entity that has bet on me through the years. I’ve brought pain to my family, my friends, my children and their mother.
I have spent my long and lucky career talking and saying anything I want. I will now step back and take a long time to listen. Thank you for reading.
[–]it_comes[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She was in her early 20s and went along with his request, but later questioned his behavior.
"I'm going to give consent, but revoke it decades later! It was rape!!!" Don't be idiotic. This is one of the 5 accusations came up, by the way, and also the most bullshit of them all. You can't revoke consent one decade after it happens.
In 2003, Abby Schachner called Louis C.K. to invite him to one of her shows, and during the phone conversation, she said, she could hear him masturbating as they spoke.
And? You know what she could have done? Cut the call! I take my words back, I remember this one. It certainly takes the cake on the most retarded accusations.
Another comedian, Rebecca Corry, said that while she was appearing with Louis C.K. on a television pilot in 2005, he asked if he could masturbate in front of her. She declined.
Wow, he asked and she declined? And then he actually listened and didn't DO IT? Rape!!!
By the way, his first sentence, is this:
I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true.
Consensual? Seems like it.
By the way, the rest is shit that he needed to say to preserve whatever career he had left. The #MeToo movement was in full blow and he couldn't go up against the rabid uprising alone.
I have discussed all five "allegations" with multiple people. The only one that has been semi-valid was the first, which is when two new women comedians came with him to his hotel room, and he asked them if he could masturbate in front of them. They said yes, and he did it; They giggled and laughed and then left after he ejaculated. Why I don't think this is completely valid is because:
Why i think this is somewhat valid:
Overall, I find their reactions weird, and they seemed comfortable. I won't dismiss this allegation outright, but I would like some more information to decide whether it was sexual harassment or just another consensual act regretted a few years down the road.
[+]wrekd -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Get fucking real. We don't need this sub because of what dumb bitches say on Twitter. There are real issues. How did this stupid post get upvoted so high? Bunch a whiny fucking cunts.
[–]it_comes[S] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because people like this exist and are fighting against men's rights. It's not just one person. The whole #metoo movement was full of shit accusations. Even now, there are women pushing this agenda of how there are no rape accusations. Men are scared to be alone with women, especially in the corporate workplace. The Yale case of "rape" where the student was expelled even though he won in court.
[–]AlicornGamer 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
THIS IS A REAL ISSUE. Men getting false rape-harassment-abuse-etc accusations stick forever.. even if a man is proven to have not raped (etc) a woman, he will still have that stigma forever and the woman gets off scott free. You don't see this as being fucked up?
[–]wrekd -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is a real issue. But let's not take this tweet for anything more than what it is. Noise in a sea of noise. Issues are dealt with through policy changes. And I guarantee there is a policy in nearly every jurisdiction available. It might no be specific, but there are false report charges. But you need prosecutors and courts willing to go there. Currently most aren't.
[+]Svenskbtch -16 points-15 points-14 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Where is the disagreement here? She put lying about rape in citation marks, strongly implying that it was not in fact a lie. In that case, no sane person thinks that the accuser should do any jail time. i am confused... what is the context?
[–]Noxiferam 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Really depends on how you interpret the quotation marks: it's either meant as citation or sarcasm.
That said, your interpretation seems the least plausible of the two to me: of course if the victim isn't lying he/she shouldn't go to prison. I've not seen many advocate for that position but there is a conversation about the sanctions surrounding false accusations.
[–]it_comes[S] 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It implies that no woman lies about rape and there are no such things as false allegations. She's mocking the people who say that false allegations exist and she's saying every man who denies these allegations is lying.
[+]MileyCyrusUnofficial -16 points-15 points-14 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You need this sub because of some rando on twitter?
[–]it_comes[S] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]LatifaSaleem -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
I agree with @sailormalcriada.
[–]Odd_Weird 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Please tell us why.
[–]LatifaSaleem 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Da vam pokažem vse, kar vem, bodo trajala leta.
[–]Odd_Weird 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I copied that into Google Translate, and apparently, what you said is Slovenian for "Let me show you everything I know will last for years." I'm confused.
[–]nforne 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Low effort attempt to troll. 2/10
[–]LatifaSaleem 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Stating an opinion is not trolling.
[–]R3ddspider 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Well if you put it in another language and provide no translation, while also the best translation they can get so far makes little sense or whatever, seems a bit trolley tbh
[–]LatifaSaleem 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Trolling doesn't exist. You're just saying that because you don't have a rebuttal.
[–]R3ddspider 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm sorry fam but if you dont think internet trolling exists then either you missed something or you havent been on the internet for very long
Of course it doesn't exist. It's just label people throw around to shame others for their opposing opinions.
[–]R3ddspider 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok well you failed here https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/trolling
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll (2a)
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/trolling (click see more, it's the 18th definition)
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/troll (used in the context in one of the "example scentances of troll")
since these are some of the many official dictionary websites that has the term with similar definitions
But getting back to the topic on hand you said you agree with the person posting the tweet?
[+]lawwm -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This sub?? What, NO. A movement! When I always speak to someone from this sub they do not take actions outside Reddit. When I ask about guidelines, theory, ways of action, all of that stuff people just say the only purpose of this sub is being anti feminism and awaraness... thats it? Comparing yourselfs with feminism and not actually doing nothing? And yes, feminism has their bullshit topics but also their own real problems and at least they kinda do something more real than a subreddit. I say feminism but it can be ANY social movement nowdays. Why MR is just something that is just be needed in a "sub".
[+]MattKavanaugh -17 points-16 points-15 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
lol you're all just a bunch of incels who are afraid of being held accountable for their actions. this false rape accusation shit is rare.
[–]LegendaryX42 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
ahhhh the classic "YOURE AN MRA?? U MUST BE AN INCEL1!!!!1111!!!!!!" argument.
[–]it_comes[S] 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Nah lol you're all a bunch of femcels who are afraid their game is up and we're realizing rape almost never happens, real rape shit is rare.
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[+]leemasterific -10 points-9 points-8 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
This is deranged and scary. I hope you live alone on an island.
[–]it_comes[S] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
This is terrifying and insane, I hope you're locked up in an asylum.
[+]leemasterific -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Dude, I hope you get better at writing. Maybe then you can have a single positive impact on anything and stop wasting your time hating women? Good luck.
[–]it_comes[S] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Dudette, I hope you get better at reading. Maybe then you can get your head out of your ass and stop wasting your time hating men? Good luck.
It's funny how you really just called me a woman hater and an incel and hoped I lived alone on an island, when you didn't realize what I did was repeat your own statements back to you changing the groups in your sentences. Isn't it funny to see how you're really the deranged lunatic?
[+]leemasterific -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Lol if you think anyone didn’t notice what you were doing, I hate to be the one to have to break it to you that you’re not as clever as you think. That is, if you think you’re more clever than a 10-year-old. Also I didn’t call you an incel, but I don’t disagree with the person who did. :)
[–]it_comes[S] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You're pathetic. Your own statements were absurd enough for you to call me names over, it's hilarious. Maybe you should take a step back and look at the big picture here, you just reacted to your own statements as hate speech?
All you could do is resort to Ad Hominem, and after attacking me and calling me names you then insulted my writing. Your plan to incite me into saying something stupid isn't going to work, though. For your sake, I really hope you take one step back and try to acknowledge you're wrong. It's only hard the first time, and I learned that the hard way.
I don't hate any community because I don't see someone based on their sex, race, etc. Unlike people like you playing group politics, I prefer to see someone as an individual. I'm not an incel, couldn't be farther from the truth, to be honest. I had sex addiction at one point of my life. And I really don't get what my virginity status or my (sex) body count have anything to do with the issue at hand? You just dismissed all the men whose lives have been ruined by false rape allegations. I gave you concrete examples, best being the Yale student, others like Louis CK and other men having their lives ruined by these allegations.
[–]leemasterific -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Lol what are you on about when you don’t even realize you’re not talking to the same person? You’re the only one who said anything about hate speech, so I guess that backfired on you. I didn’t insult your writing. I said I hope you get better. I didn’t call you an incel. I responded to you saying rape was rare when you started playing your little “see how ridiculous you women sound?” game. Which was sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo thought provoking! I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone turn someone’s argument back against them and not make a single good point! You’re out here changing hearts and minds while pathetic old me sits here enjoying my life as a pathetic little woman. And Louis CK admitted what he did and now he’s paying for it. Do you defend other confessed sex offenders, too? Too bad, so sad. :)
Also, I don’t hate men. I happen to be marrying one. I don’t at all care for people who hide behind the idea of wanting rights for one group to justify their hatred of another group. There are absolutely things that are unfair to men that need to be fixed. Domestic violence against men by women, sexual assault and rape against men by women, the stigmatization against men with mental illness, to name a few. And false accusations are an evil thing to do to someone, but they’re not more common than rape. Toxic masculinity is an enemy to all, and that doesn’t mean that masculinity itself is toxic. All of these things can be true and they still don’t mean that all women are your enemy or are out to get you somehow. And my saying that doesn’t mean I think all women are goddesses who can do no wrong. It makes sense that most of the women who talk to you on here probably come off that way, but that’s not because all women are assholes. It’s because if you talk the way you do (meaning like a dick who thinks he’s smart), people are going to want to be assholes to you. If you want to genuinely help your cause, whatever it may be, you have to be willing to discuss things with people who disagree with you. But whatever, I’m sure nothing I say is going to change anything, so this asshole digresses. I hope your week is better than this conversation.
[–]it_comes[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Lol what are you on about when you don’t even realize you’re not talking to the same person?
What?
You’re the only one who said anything about hate speech, so I guess that backfired on you.
You said I hated women and insinuated I was misogynistic multiple times.
I didn’t insult your writing. I said I hope you get better.
Technicalities now, eh? I'm not stupid, and I also don't mind. Don't sweat it, I get people calling me shitty all the time.
I didn’t call you an incel. Also I didn’t call you an incel, but I don’t disagree with the person who did. :)
I didn’t call you an incel.
Also I didn’t call you an incel, but I don’t disagree with the person who did. :)
I responded to you saying rape was rare when you started playing your little “see how ridiculous you women sound?” game.
I'm sorry, I don't play those games. And I didn't know you were a woman, either. I just responded to you as if you were one, because the opposite of a man hating a woman is a woman hating a man; I really didn't give a shit about your sex. It wasn't "how ridiculous you women sound", it's "how ridiculous you sound".
! I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone turn someone’s argument back against them and not make a single good point!
I made point I needed to when you got offended by your own statements just with switched demographics.
You’re out here changing hearts and minds while pathetic old me sits here enjoying my life as a pathetic little woman.
Didn't say or insinuate that anywhere.
And Louis CK admitted what he did and now he’s paying for it. Do you defend other confessed sex offenders, too? Too bad, so sad
Louis Ck asked for consent. I repeat, Louis CK asked for consent. He was forced to "admit" to his "crimes" because otherwise the backlash would be worse. (And he got consent, by the way.)
And false accusations are an evil thing to do to someone, but they’re not more common than rape.
Murder is not more common than theft, so should we ignore murder because theft is more common?
The point is not that rape is more common, it's that false accusations can ruin a man's career, relationships, personal life, and future.
I don’t at all care for people who hide behind the idea of wanting rights for one group to justify their hatred of another group.
You are more inconsistent than anyone I've seen.
Toxic masculinity is an enemy to all
So is toxic feminity. More so, judging by the current state of affairs given that women are given more leeway and are seen more positively in general. This makes it so that toxic feminity is much more rarely called out, while toxic masculinity is called out even where it doesn't exist. Such as "manspreading" or "mansplaining".
they still don’t mean that all women are your enemy or are out to get you somehow.
I have never believed that, as I stated in my previous comment:
I don't hate any community because I don't see someone based on their sex, race, etc. Unlike people like you playing group politics, I prefer to see someone as an individual.
And my saying that doesn’t mean I think all women are goddesses who can do no wrong.
I never said or insinuated you were saying that either.
It makes sense that most of the women who talk to you on here probably come off that way, but that’s not because all women are assholes. It’s because if you talk the way you do (meaning like a dick who thinks he’s smart), people are going to want to be assholes to you.
I talked the way I did because you commented with a condescending and dismissive tone, which I copied. Simple as that; I talk to people as they talk to me.
If you want to genuinely help your cause, whatever it may be, you have to be willing to discuss things with people who disagree with you.
I always discuss and consider other points of view, unlike most people I meet on Reddit. If you had been less condescending and didn't resort to name calling, I would have discussed your viewpoint too, but you made it clear you never wanted to discuss, you wanted to ridicule me and other members of this sub. How can I discuss something with someone who doesn't want to discuss?
But whatever, I’m sure nothing I say is going to change anything
If you followed what you said yourself, we could have been discussing our viewpoints politely instead of resorting to petty namecalling by you and infuriating sarcasm by me.
I'm still open to discussion any time, so if you ever feel like having an actual discussion you can reply to me or message me privately.
Well the reality of people committing suicide over it has happened. And btw women being prosecuted and sued over fale rape accusations also happen. Even if it's rare we should treat it as a crime.
[–]AlicornGamer 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
nah, we're a bunch of people who don't want men to be fucked over constantly. try again sweetheart.
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A meme where people say we live in a clown world, post the clown emoji and a planet emoji, “not in this clown world” etc etc and people will respond “honk honk.” So now saying “honk” gets you banned.
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