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[–][deleted] 685 points686 points687 points 4 years ago (48 children) | Copy Link
It sucks because the boys are groomed to believe in this mindset. It breaks my heart.
Mary Kay Letourneau is a prime example of this, True Crime Obsessed podcast covers a documentary done on her. She makes money on his story about her raping him. Such bullshit.
[–][deleted] 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
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[–][deleted] 86 points87 points88 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Idk I know people that don’t believe their 16 year old daughter was raped by her stepdad because it went on for 3 years and she never said anything. They see it more as a cheating scenario and it makes me sick to my stomach.
[–]LokisDawn 37 points38 points39 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
That might actually be how girls and boys that age (in some cases) see it. As a normal relationship. That doesn't mean it is.
If the daughter herself says it wasn't "consensual"(it can't actually be, ofc.), there's zero excuses, though.
[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Either way there are zero excuses in my opinion.
[–]OneCrazyCook84 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
A child saying is consensual is the adult preying on them. I don't recall the term but it's like a quid pro quo. The child/teen is told they are being mature for their age and probably given alcohol and other things to push this agenda grooming them to be compliant with their abuser
[–]BlackDChase 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You sir/mam, defined it in the most accurate way i could think of.
[–]Sarm11111 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Straw man argument
[–]RockmanXX 33 points34 points35 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
because the boys are groomed to believe in this mindset
The disturbing thing is that this is probably how they justify marrying off 10 yr old girls to 30 yr old men in countries like Afghanistan&Pakistan.
[–]chintan22 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
marrying off 10 yr old girls to 30 yr old men in countries like Afghanistan&Pakistan
Well, the muslim prophet Mohammed is said to have married 6y Aisha. The marriage was consummated at 9. He was 55. The precedent set by this does justify about anything else.
Before the Islamophobia comments and downvotes come in, this is written in the Qur'an, and yes, I don't like islam.
[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Child grooming also happens to boys in nepal and somalia
[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, the grooming probably starts really young and since they grow up seeing it they will never know the truth.
[–]n3miD 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
It's how the media portrays teachers in movies and tv shows aimed at teens.....the boys hooking up with their teachers are praised by their mates so it's considered cannon that that's ok.....when realistically it's really not
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Agreed. That's starting to change though with shows like Riverdale that's targeted at teens.
[–]n3miD 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Archie slept with his teacher?
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yes! And she is portrayed as a creep/repeat offender and is eventually chased out of town and murdered. None of that star crossed lovers crap.
Edit: Archies friends even have to help him realize he's a victim of something horrible.
[–]FakeLaundry 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Wow, that's awesome! I avoided that show because it was so different from the comics, but I'm glad they have morals in it.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s only the first season that’s worth a watch. I watch Alex Meyers make fun of the absurdity that is the other seasons, which is hilarious btw.
[–]problematic_coagulum 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Also how 95% of the sex workers are boys under 10. Father dies in war, mother and sister sure aren't going to lift a finger to provide, it's not the way.
[–]Strikester101 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Source?
[–]problematic_coagulum 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't have the numbers right now but I heard it from HBR. I can say that the practice is common in Afghanistan. The Taliban has declared that women are not to work or go out without an escort.
[–]RealBiggly 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Most of those places are open about fucking young boys first.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/world/asia/us-soldiers-told-to-ignore-afghan-allies-abuse-of-boys.html
And why do I keep getting "an error occurred (status: 0)" unless I change browsers?
[–]orcscorper 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why is that "the disturbing thing", as if it's the only disturbing thing in this thread?
You blow off boys being groomed to believe that sex with pedophile women is something to be sought after, something they must enjoy as perpetually horny males.
We expect this shit from Afghanistan and Pakistan, but the truly disturbing thing is how many Western men who think they are "woke", or some such bullshit, think that those 10 year-old girls are more valuable than the 10 year-old boys that are groomed for sex by female pedophiles..
You are all terrible human beings, and have no place in this subreddit.
[–]Dman993 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm pretty sure you took that wrong, The point that I see is that it is disturbing because people in general are against the marriage of young girls in those countries. However, people do not see the irony in thinking the males LIKE being preyed upon it even though both thoughts/tradition use grooming of children. Of course maybe I'm looking at it wrong.
[–]RockmanXX 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You took that wrong way, i found it disturbing because otherwise liberal&well educated people suddenly start thinking&acting like Afghani villagers when it comes to Female Pedophiles.
[–][deleted] 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, I thought making a profit off rape or murder was illegal until I heard this Mary Kay story.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Even if the boy said he enjoyed it he's either
A.) Lying to seem cool
B.) Totally unaware of the mental issues he's going to have when he's older because of it
[–]RealBiggly 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not to mention the risk of STDs and even 'child' support
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link
Look at this https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/bronx/ny-dori-myers-bronx-teacher-sentenced-probation-20180912-story.html?fbclid=IwAR3g8XjTzX06Zqp-WPHFKsSg2oiWn16pZ4kbpH13HKvhr8E5-FCioo9NtKE pretty fuxked up she didnt even go to prison or get her teachers license revoked
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I’m going to throw up real quick and then research how to change shit like this because I’m sick of seeing it!
[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I was shocked but when showed it to a female friend at she call me sexist. I was like what? And then she said boys want it but girls don’t. Then I pointed out how that was sexist and she went oh fuck ur right
[–]Petsweaters 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I wish somebody had told the girl who raped me that. Could have saved me 35+ years of nightmares and PTSD
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What the fuck. Have you gotten help? Did you try to sue her? I hope you can eventually recover. I should be the one to say these things seeing as ur probably 40 years older than me but Idk
[–]Petsweaters 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have seen a therapist off and on for years, not every time I see this shit, or "men shouldn't _________ women," it's more salt in the wound. Why it's so hard to say "don't do ____________ without consent" instead of making villains or victims of entire genders in beyond me
[–]MRCTHULHU47 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hope that bitch got her life ruined
[–]glotzydrop 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is totally heartbreaking. Like their argument is hormones but... Do they think girls don’t have hormones too? Girls fantasize about having sexual relations with teachers too, but that doesn’t make it justified. Neither is justified.
The law says underage people cannot consent, period. It’s horrible for either gender.
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[–]antilopes 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Sure, that's normal. Me too at that age. But it is exactly the same for the girls.
In both cases, the reason it is illegal and professionally unethical is the significant risk of huge psychological damage if the relationship becomes abusive, as it often does. The big difference in maturity and authority is a giant power difference. Power often corrupts.
You might not know that boys typically get more messed up by this sort of thing than girls.
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[–]antilopes 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
at the age of 16 one is mature enough to know when someone is trying to be manipulative and abusive
I see some dumb shit on the internet and this sub is a rich source of it but you really are raising the bar here. At the age of 16 you know fuck-all about anything. You can barely find your own ass using both hands in full daylight. Your brain doesn't finish its neural pruning stage until about 25.
There is a men's cult built on a sociopathic response to sexual insecurity. As experts in psychological abuse of sexual partners they have found below 25 is best for their purposes. The women's inexperience and immaturity is the attraction. After 25 they are more mature, able to see through the guys' tricks and to stand up for themselves.
People who were abused by older partners often don't realise the full scope of it until many years afterwards. Some of it sinks in when they reach the age their older partner was. There will be more when their own children reach the age they were then.
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[–]antilopes 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Weird. I've given you two branches of substantial evidence and you have answered each by ignoring it and repeating an unsubstantiated claim.
You do claim one fact but it is wrong. 16 year olds in relationships with older adults is not a major crisis because it is rare. Most people have the sense, ethics, preference or parental supervision to not do weird age mixes with children. Those who do make such unbalanced couples are not inevitably bad but they have a high rate of severe problems in the younger partner. That is why there is so much social disapproval. It is like driving drunk - probably you won't have an accident even if you do it every weekend for a year, or more. That isn't good enough because the consequences are so severe.
Someone in their 30s who starts a relationship with a 16 year old is very likely to lose friends over it, and those who stay will mostly disapprove. Try polling some people Who have experience of being 16 and also maturing to say 30 or more - your parents, grandparents, teachers. Ask why adults who do this are regarded as creeps, what sorts of things can go wrong for the child, and whether they would let their own child move in with a much older partner at 16.
Most adults don't know much about how abuse works, they will just use terms like "creepy". They understand it is risky but they don't understand much of the mechanics of abuse.
They will ask "what is the attraction?". This is short for "the child is missing much of what makes adults attractive to each other. So it is likely the child's gullibility is the real attraction". [Spoiler: it is]
[+][deleted] -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
so the universal disparity among men vs women libido are just a product of societal norms that somehow traverse all boundaries and cultures?
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It doesn't to my knowledge.
[–]QueenNayru 307 points308 points309 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
"Rape culture is a society that celebrates rape!" "Men love sex so even young boys should be happy when a women chooses to fuck em" I mean. Sounds like a celebration that young boys are being raped....
[–]KR_Blade 63 points64 points65 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
so yea, the feminists are half right, rape culture does exist...just not in the way they scream about, its the system they hold up that men cant be raped, that grown women cant molest young boys because ''they want it and are asking for it''
it makes my blood boil that even our justice system props up this damn belief
[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You forgot the rape culture in the penitentiary system. Prisoners who are singled out for special punishment by the guards are often placed in situations where they are likely to forcibly sodomized by other prisoners. Like being the cellmate of the bull queer. Forced to take mass showers with the bull queer population etc.
[–]BarryHalls 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"They were asking for it."
[–]Egalitarianwhistle 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You nailed it..
[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She did... Sorry I will go...
[–]BornFreeWE 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The feminists are quite right on many topics...
[–]Petsweaters 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They just don't believe that their standards of behavior for men apply to themselves
[–]someguy92614 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
wow that is really all I can say is wow. lots of small minded people
[–]Banake 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Rape culture exists, and is perpetuated by feminists.
[–]XavierMalory 301 points302 points303 points 4 years ago (46 children) | Copy Link
Sooo MGTOW are against statutory rape, regardless of gender.
Meanwhile, the rest of the world:
MGTOW = Misogyny! Incels! Neckbeards!
[–]Raunchy_Potato 156 points157 points158 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
This is why we don't listen to the opinions of feminists.
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, the ones ranting about how it’s okay for a woman to be a pedo ruins for the feminists that are fighting for actually good causes.
[–]sencerb88 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What good cause is left in the west for feminists? I mean, i respect the ones in middle east and africa who do great work. But the western feminists just look like they got nothing to fight for so they just try to turn this into a gender war.
[–]orcscorper 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There haven't been any feminists fighting for actually good causes in my lifetime, and I'm old as hell.
Feminists deny that they are privileged, and fight for even more privilege than they already have. It's never enough.
[–]Lethn 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
There are no 'good' feminists, there are only feminists who hate men and apologists who refuse to do anything about them and sit by while they try and ruin the lives of innocent men.
[–]Lethn 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If feminists actually cared about equality they would be fighting these people left and right and ejecting them from their groups. You are a classic apologist and like others are more interested in defending the reputation of feminism rather than actually addressing what feminists do.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sorry I’ve been looking around (I am a bit uneducated on somethings I am in school) and I do think you are right actually. The “good” feminists are actually ‘gender equalitists’?
[–]yagyaxt1068 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Egalitarians.
[–]Vindaloo-brication 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If you want equal rights for both men and women you're an egalitarian not a feminist, feminism is solely focused on women's rights at the sake of men's.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Some egalitarians call themselves feminists that’s what I meant. Sorry for the confusion.
[–]Vindaloo-brication 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I know, it's because most people are uneducated and think feminists are the only people who want equality, what they don't realise is feminists don't want real equality they want equity, they want to force women into positions of power even if a man is better qualified for the job and they want 100% control of the family courts system so they can continue to live for free off the government and the alimony.
[–]Mackowatosc 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your disagreement has no value, really. Feminists do not fight for any equality. They fight for female privileges. I never heard about feminists fighting for any issue that was solely male issue.
[–]Mackowatosc 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No such good feminists exist.
[–]TopcodeOriginal1 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because they’re stupid
[–]tallwheel 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's not just feminists. Pretty much all outsiders who know what MGTOW is think that MGTOW = Misogyny, Incels, Neckbeards.
[–]shivaay69 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's only on reddit tho,on youtube,facebook,instagram and quora Mgtows hardly recieve any vitriol or hatred.
[–]xmx900 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Too bad we live in a world where we have to take idiots seriously.
[–]antilopes -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
A piece of obvious bait from an obvious troll account is how you make your decisions? Feminists oppose the satirical ideas in this post for exactly the same reasons as MRAs.
[–]DancePower 49 points50 points51 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's funky because actual MGTOW is, as you said, self-actualization and no co-habitation or marriage, and yet they're called incels, which is a portmanteau of involuntary celibate, even though you may classify MGTOW as celibates. Not involuntary celibates, just celibates. They chose to be celibate.
So when some idiot goes on and rages about mgtow and how its ruining dating or shit like that I just think
"wow what an incel"
Because it might very well be incels that are raging on MGTOW.
I decided for now to really just focus on self-building, so I chose to be a celibate. Volcel is stupid to say, just say celibate.
[+]deez_nuts_ha_gotem -48 points-47 points-46 points 4 years ago* (20 children) | Copy Link
Have you been on r/MGTOW before?
Edit: Nothing wrong with going your own way. I'm just pointing out that's why people think MGTOW are incels. r/MGTOW is an incel sub. I've been told by somebody on r/MGTOW that women have no value other than sex.
[–]XavierMalory 43 points44 points45 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I won’t deny that subreddit has gone to shit. However I mean the core of MGTOW which is basically:
Trouble is, you will get a lot of true incels hiding out there, and they’re gonna spread their angst.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What incels, last time i checked incels hate mgtows and pretty much every men who isn't like them, incels are mainly misanthropes not misogynists
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
The core idea of MGTOW isn’t bad at all, by technical definition. It’s just about not dating women.
You could say the same about feminism. The core isn’t bad. It’s about equal rights for women AND men.
The issue with MGTOW is that the actual people that are a part of the group tend to spend most of their time bitching about women, ironic given that their whole movement is about not dealing with them. It makes them come off as misogynistic to anyone that’s not part of the group, because they devalue women to just sex objects.
(I shouldn’t have to explain what went wrong with feminism)
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
At least mgtows find sexual value on women, feminists advocate for genocide, mgtows are angels in comparition
[+][deleted] -10 points-9 points-8 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Very few feminists advocate genocide. And many MGTOW say fat worse about women.
[–]orcscorper 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Okay, I'll bite. What does r/MGTOW say about women that is "fat worse" than advocating genocide?
You know what? fuck gender politics. What could anybody, literally anybody, say about any group, that was worse than advocating genocide for that group? Fucking nothing? You fucking retard.
[–]Vindaloo-brication 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Eh, I can agree that there are a fair few people in the mgtow sub that go out of their way to trash women regularly but I agree, subs like r/femaledatingstrategy and r/pinkpillfeminism regularly advocate for the murder of all men which just increases the divide between us. Ultimately feminism and identity politics are about destroying our modern western societal values by dividing everyone into highly secular groups and convincing them they're enemies and oppressed by all the other groups.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"that women have no value other than sex"
Saying that doesn't make you an incel plenty of promiscous men say that
[+]deez_nuts_ha_gotem -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've never heard a "promiscuous man" say that but I'll take your word for it. Either way, this guy was clearly not a promiscuous man. He was an incel.
[–]orcscorper 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well, shit! One guy on a sub said something that gave you the vapors, so obviously it's an incel sub.
You fucking retard.
No it's not just one guy, it's a good amount of the posts on there. If not a majority, a very close minority. It got a lot of incels when braincels got banned. It saddens me to see a good community like r/MRA pretending that the shit they post in MGTOW is okay. You're just becoming the male version of modern feminists. Bitter about women and never being able to move on.
[–]mimiczx 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
r/MGTOW2 is a slightly better representation
[–]Ebinebinebinebin 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think what he meant was that the Twitter warrior is essentially saying that MGTOW are the normal reasonable people and no one else is
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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Mgtows are generally hateful against women but they are angels in comparition to fds, mgtows only make sexist generalizations, fds encourages false acussations, rape, physical assault and robbery
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[–]FucksWithGators 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So being hateful in a male zone against women is the same as women telling other women to actively ruin lives to get ahead in their own. Glad you see them as equally toxic.
[–]FucksWithGators -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmao sure sure. Wanna explain how I'm wrong?
[+]Puffy_Ghost -17 points-16 points-15 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Being against rape doesn't mean that sub isn't full of misogynist, incel nut jobs.
[–]XavierMalory 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
See my other comments below. I’m talking about MGTOW in general, not the shit show the Reddit sub has become.
[+]itsthevoiceman -14 points-13 points-12 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
MGTOW are straight up cancer.
Occasionally someone from that mentality will say something rational. But they're still cancer on the whole.
"A stopped clock is right twice a day."
[–]XavierMalory 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Meh, agree to disagree. The Reddit sub has become trash, but the core philosophy is solid to me.
[–][deleted] 166 points167 points168 points 4 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
So, here's something interesting to think about.
the above is clearly predicated on the idea that all males want sex all the time from any and all women. That idea is kept alive and current by the following mechanism: It is illegal immoral against the rules for a man to say that he does not find a woman attractive.
In nearly any circumstance, a man stating that he does not find a particular woman attractive will be interpreted to mean that he hates all women or he is gay.
Women can freely talk about their attraction to particular men and their lack of attraction to others. Women are free to say that any particular man, or any group of men, or even all men are unattractive, men are not free to make such distinctions.
Therefor all men must at times, on some level be prepared to publicly claim that they are irresistibly drawn to each and every woman in the world.
Some women actually believe it.
[–]BornFreeWE 67 points68 points69 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Interessting thought... I can confirm that.
Talked to a woman and without any hestitations she said 98% of men are just unattractive (with more expicit words ;-) ). Same woman get's angry if I say that I don't find a particular woman not so much attractive.
Or talking with 4 colleagues of the same company (one female). She said "there are no interesting men in our company" directly to us (men of that company). I guess I would not survive saying that to 3 female colleagues.
That combined with the beliefe 'men always want sex' could be the reason why some can't comprehend the serverness of a rape if man got raped.
[–][deleted] 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
To build a house of cards here, I'll just assume that it is the case that a lot of people believe men and boys enjoy being raped because men do not feel free to publicly state the idea 'unattractive women exist'.
Now, that being so, if a media outlet or a webpage or blog or something, were to talk about unattractive women, why, that would represent a threat to womens ability to sexually victimize boys and men.
So in that case, we would expect any people or organizations that have an agenda of 'furthering women's rights' would act strongly to discourage the spread of such talk. And this is exactly what we see.
[–]BornFreeWE 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would like distiguish between 'attractive women' and a man sees a woman as attractive.
And we have to make clear that even if the man sees a woman as attractive that does not mean that he is automatically interesed in sex with her.
[–]lonewolfhistory 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why do you think a movement of men walking away from women is so reviled and hated by women? It shatters their little world views on men as the group openly says that “the empress has no clothes”
[–]DancePower 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Quite simply, modern culture has made females unable to create decent thoughts that are sensible. And there are a lot of them. People born in 1990 are, or will be, 30 years old in this year.
In modern culture, this has created females that cannot cook, all they know is continues on with that meme that has particles of truth in it
Truly sad. This generation's gonna grow up to be useless, leaving people such as me, who isn't the best fit to be parents, all of a sudden the most thoughtful parents that know their shit.
I might have to write a book about theories on parenting. Society's gonna need the logicglue that I have in order to sort information.
[–]someguy92614 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nailed it. There are some women I would not even fuck with your dick, let alone mine.
[–]LoneArcher96 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Very good point, in their POV, a woman who is defensive around men would be excused for one of many reasons, I actually know that some women had a bad experience with a man which made her act like so and that's is totally fine by me,
but the moment you (as a man) say you're defensive around women or you hate being touched or even come to the idea of being treated just how they would like to be treated then you are downvoted, attacked, insulted, accused of being an incel and misogynist.
that also brings another thing to my mind, fear of rejection, a man has a very higher chance to be rejected than a woman has imo, so their fear of rejection would be naturally lower than ours, which could also be used against you.
[–]BarryHalls 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree with your sentiment and deeply resent the negative treatment of male sexuality but the precluding issue is much deeper and simpler.
This is statutory rape and sexual harassment. Teaches should never ever have a sexual relationship with a student regardless of male/female dynamics simply because of the student/teacher relationship. The teacher is always in a position of power, leadership, and responsibility over the student just like a supervisor over a subordinate at work. This means that the subordinate/student is always in a vulnerable position and the relationship can not be viewed as equally consenting adults. Add to that the student in this context is also a minor and should always be under the care of adults, not in a relationship as an equal and that should always make what these teacher do wrong, and punishable by revocation of teaching credentials for breaking the trust of the schools and parents by taking advantage of the previously mentioned vulnerabilities.
You can point to anectdotes where this couple or that one started out with a similar relationship dynamic, but those should be regarded as the exception, and not an excuse NOT to wait until the TEMPORARY student/teacher or supervisor/subordinate dynamic changes.
Furthermore, even if we conclude thay males always want sex, it only worsens that an adult would take advantage of that alleged biological predisposition in a child.
Women complain that guys get pissy when they get rejected, but if you've ever rejected a woman's advances you know the average guys response ain't got shit on THAT.
[–]dtyler86 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Absolutely true. The same way girls lie to men who are hitting on them by saying they have a boyfriend when they don’t, if you just straight up tell a girl who’s attracted to you that you are not interested their defense mechanism is that you must be gay. I’ve literally had angry girls that I have turned out say things like, “I guess you just don’t like me because I’m a woman. You’re obviously gay.”
We could list relevant double standards here all day. Like if you don’t make a move you’re a pussy, if you do make a move you run the risk of being a toxic masculine male who asserts his big dick energy on women with no repercussions of their feelings or personal autonomy.
[–]chintan22 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You’re obviously gay
Just nod matter-of-factly and say," sure, keep telling yourself that."
[–]dtyler86 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That’s when I just walk away
[–]chintan22 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I know how most people avoid confrontation due to personal costs, but something like this is so satisfying, yet so ambiguous to the other party, that makes it totally worth it for me.
[–]PrettyDecentSort 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Now also add the misogynist wrinkle that male school-aged adolescents are universally able to enjoy sex and are adult enough to consent to it, but women of the same age can not enjoy sex and only participate if coerced.
[–]lonewolfhistory 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Or, to take it further with their own fucked up double think, women never grow up enough to be adult enough to consent to sex truly. Think about the way they view if both parties are drunk or on medication.
[–]orcscorper 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's nearly mind-boggling that the only people who seem to be willing to treat women as adults with agency are the alt-right misogynist trolls of r/MensRights. Feminists seem to be happy to treat all women as children: nothing but slaves to the patriarchy.
[–]bakedpotato486 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Funny how men referring to an individual woman is misinterpreted as all women and yet women referring to all men must be interpreted as only some men.
[–]darkbluexanadu 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And feminists will tell you that mens desire for s3xis part the "toxic masculinity" culture. Odd how they are now using that very "toxic masculinity" to justify their rape culture.
[–]Namkwal 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Im asexual and oh my god, im scared
[–]elebrin 59 points60 points61 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
They say that as if the female student doesn't want to get with the teacher. I saw exactly that situation when I was in high school: a group of girls trying to get into one of the male teacher's pants. He ended up quitting and moving to another district. If he had sex with them, it would still have been statutory rape with him raping them.
Either way, that's what statutory rape means. We've made the determination that a student does not have the agency to consent to sex with a teacher. It doesn't matter what gender either of them are, it doesn't matter who suggested the idea of sex, it doesn't matter who said yes or no or how many times. Students cannot consent to sex with their teachers, and it's always the teacher's fault.
I guess you could make an exception for a student beating up and tying up a teacher then raping them, then it WOULD be the student's fault, but that's not really what we are discussing.
[–][deleted] 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It’s because of the power dynamics involved and how they are basically caretakers of the kids in their care.
[–]elebrin 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh yeah, and I totally agree with its illegal status, I am totally in favor of statutory rape laws.
[–]mimiczx 98 points99 points100 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's never the same energy. 🤡
[–][deleted] 42 points43 points44 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
As a woman, I’m scratching my head at this!! I really hope it is fake!
[–]BornFreeWE 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Maybe it is fake. But this view is very common. Just had an discussion with a guy on twitter about that topic. He said basically he would have been happy and he sees it as "bragging right".
[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have boys...and I would be absolutely livid. Rape is rape...doesn’t matter who is doing it or the circumstances. 🤬🤬
[–]texasjoe 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I unfortunately have seen this mindset prominently in some online spaces.
A lotta joking around like "I wish I had a teacher like that" and the like. It's gross.
No adolescent is mature enough to have that sort of relationship with a grown adult. The power dynamic of these rapists often being teachers ups this to a whole new level of nefariousness.
And these jackasses make light of boys very likely having their perceptions of healthy relationships damaged for life.
[–]antilopes 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It looks fake. This sort of bait is only produced because they know how eager we are to eat it up.
It is a weird account with only 13 followers. Yes this post is either satire or bait or attention seeking.
[–]Saint_Seiya9000 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
As a gay dinosaur T rex , i find this very offensive.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
❤️❤️
[–][deleted] 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
They are hateful but they are not incels, incels and mgtows are highly different, mgtows are just hateful but harmless, incels are dangerous
[–]jormahoo 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Incel = wants sex Mgtow = doesnt want sex
Did that make it clear for you?
[–]shivaay69 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Imagine thinking that an ideo of men walking off from a system where court laws are tilted against men,is dog shit.
[–]shivaay69 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Mgtows are quite the opposite of incels,but well go on with your shaming tactics
[–]shivaay69 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah,they are gold digging hos,since you have so much affinity for them,go ahead and date one.Where as i'd rather go my own way.
[–][deleted] 48 points49 points50 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Just trying to play devil's advocate here. Who says girls don't enjoy it? I know plenty of teenage girls who are in deep "love" with their male teachers and they would love to "date" them.
[–]Aqedah 34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Teenage girls are just as if not more sexualised than their male counterparts. It was uncanny the volume of girls in my year group who lost their virginitys before even taking their secondary school exams... most of them glouted at how many people they had slept with.
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
That's more a criticism on their parents and society than it is on teenage girls.
True. But the point is teenage girls are just as horny as teenage boys. There is just the whole thing about men being hornier, for some reason.
Yeah, it depends on the each individual separate from gender. I misread the comments, thanks.
[–]bakedpotato486 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Also, if it were to be believed that girls mature faster, it would only make sense.
Ik a friend(girl) who was definitely hitting on older male teachers at our high school, even saying, “if he was single, we could have something”
Yes, this happens.
[–]chintan22 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You have no idea how common this is.
[–]TheAndredal[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
but that doesn't make it ok
What?
[–]antilopes -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
That isn't Devil's advocate, it is a simple fact understood by pretty much everybody. Including feminists.
Including feminists.
They don't admit to understanding it tho.
[–]antilopes 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are thinking of tradcons perhaps. They are the ones who want to keep women on a pedestal. Feminists recognised in the 70s the pedestal is harmful to their goals.
Feminists spend a lot of time on rape, sexual abuse and abusive couples. They have a far more sophisticated understanding of it than any sector of society other than professionals who work with sexual trauma, because they study and talk about it a lot more. Acknowledging the rampant horniness of teenage girls is in Feminism 101.
[–]FnCraig 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"If you can make your rape victim orgasm, it isn't a big deal"
[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m going to throw up thinking about this stuff. So sad that both sexes can’t help but orgasm, get erect or get wet during rape. The guilt, confusion, and shame that comes with that must be so horrible.
[–]DanteLivra 31 points32 points33 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Rape culture is assuming only women can be raped.
[–]IronJohnMRA 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes. And assumes only men can be rapists.
[–]McFeely_Smackup 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this person honestly thinks young women don't enjoy sex.
I'm very sad for her.
It does seem weird to me though that she doesn't understand that this isn't about what the child did or didn't want, it's about what the adult chose to do to a child.
[–]xNOM 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
...and female students HATE it because... ?
Because I sed so.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What I find extremely stupid about these people is that THEY WERE YOUNG ONCE TOO, and they damn well know that there was always someone (a celebrity, a teacher, a store employee, etc) that if given the chance, they would have sex with without question when they were teens.
It angers me that women pretend they aren't just as hormonal as men are.
[–]Kettellkorn 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Interesting how the feminist have this agenda that basically says women are unable to have their own wants/opinions and are unable to control themselves. They portray women as stupid.
A female student can’t possible want a male teacher. But a male student would almost definitely be able to seduce a female teacher.
A man will always be in control of his actions when he’s drinking, but women? No no no! Women are incapable of making rational decisions while drinking!
It’s ironic really.
[–]orcscorper 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How misogynistic do you have to be to think that a fourteen-year-old boy seduced his forty-two year-old teacher? He has so much inherent patriarchal power at fourteen that a middle-aged woman can't resist his advances?
They hate women more than I ever could, and I am a fucking pro.
[–]thereslcjg2000 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The ironic thing is that “she liked it!” is EXACTLY the same justification people have historically applied to female victims.
The other ironic thing is that she’s just reinforcing the idea that men are all sex-obsessed. So much for dismantling gender roles.
Finally, she’s literally perpetuating ACTUAL rape culture while complaining about some imaginary nonsense rape culture.
[–]Blutarg 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Oh, if something is enjoyable then it isn't wrong. Congratulations, people who enjoy stealing, vandalizing, and killing!
[–]Gundabadguy 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Killing suicidal people is okay because they wanted to die.
[–]TheGreatConst 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is bs logic because in stealing, vandalizing and killing only one side enjoys the process. For example, if someone consents to "stealing" then it isn't a crime anymore, it is a gift.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah because a grown adult woman having “relations” with her underage male student is COMPLETELY different from a male teacher having “relations” with his female student.... 🤢
[–]VirtualKeenu 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Note that men "prey" and women "have relationship".
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[–]BornFreeWE 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't know. Doesn't change the fakt that it is exploitative and has damaging effects.
Grooming is a very complex manipulation and at a young age this is comparatively worse than being held down because the self-hatred they will have to live with for the rest of their life.
Predators usually can only groom victims that are already suffering from poor mental health and craving emotional support.
[–][deleted] 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It’s still rape whether they “enjoy” it or not.
Edit: depending on the law, of course.
[–]OmnipotentToot 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It should still be rape whether they "enjoy" it or not, regardless of their gender. Unfortunately, the legal systems in many countries have decided otherwise in most cases.
FTFY
....I said what I said. We are talking about all the girls findaway84 claims he knows.
[–]abkj2007 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
As a victim.. F*ck her to the moon and back into a volcano
[–]TheAndredal[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
well anyone with that mentality
[–]vicious_armbar[🍰] 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't think this woman understands what Statutory Rape means. Whether the victim enjoyed it or not is irrelevant. The entire premise of such laws is that the victim didn't have the capacity to consent to sexual activity because their brain isn't fully developed.
The mind, specifically the prefrontal cortex; doesn't finish fully maturing until age 25. The prefrontal cortex involves the ability to project future consequences that result from current actions.
Such as having unprotected sex with your teacher then having your future potential torpedoed by the child support and family court system. Or getting an incurable STI. Or being beat to death in a jealous rage by an adulterers husband.
[–]TheGreatConst 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is just the fact that statuary rape laws are outdated and contradict reality became more obvious when it is a woman who is older. The same thing could be said about the games/movies/porn age rating system. All of this assumes that teens never have sex and don't know about it before reaching certain age and if they do - it will affect them terribly. Most guys I know started to watch porn at 11-13 years old, it isn't out of ordinary, but a norm in the internet age.
By definition "age of consent" means that a person is unable to consent to have sex with someone. But by this logic, they shouldn't be able to consent to ANYONE. And it is true for teens who are 12 years old or younger. And it is absolutely not true for 15-17 years old who already have sex actively, on average. There are zero reasons why we should consider that they can consent to have sex with each other and can't consent to have sex with someone older. By definition you either can consent or can't - sex is the same process no matter who is the partner. Moreover, the age of consent is usually raised by a few years if the other party is a person of authority like a teacher or relative. It is done like this so that there were fewer teachers who just want to get laid, as being a cool older guy / hot mature woman among horny teenagers will make them attracted to you and not because you would be able to "blackmail" them with grades or it is something terrible to poor 16-18 years old high schoolers who are already past their puberty. Factually two teens having sex with each other is much more dangerous because there is a higher chance that they would be irresponsible about contraception and STDs prevention. It is obvious why so many men are against all those cases of hot female teachers being arrested. Because almost any healthy male wants to have sex and starting from his mid-teens actively seeking it, but often doesn't get because it isn't easy to get laid.
[–]WaltermelonAdvocate 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm a girl and this is disgusting.
[–]stentorian46 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah this really gets on my tits too. Any adult who solicits sex from a child needs to go away. And what's this "they enjoy it" shit? The woman who wrote it must be very ignorant. Female AND male victims of child rapists often report orgasms etc. This response can contribute to feelings of confusion, guilt, "nastiness". It's really quite evil to suggest that if the child you rape has an orgasm, that makes it all fine. It's exactly what paedophiles WANT children to think.
[–]yaboytim 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
By that logic, there are girls who enjoy it too. It's wrong regardless of gender. You're an adult in a position of power messing around with a kid.
[–]Wesman_Todd_Shaw 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Imagine believing teen girls don't like sex.
Remember men, when a woman does it it’s because she needed to feel empowered. Completely justifiable.
Just like woman wearing skirts are asking to get raped right?
Double standards are hilariously stupid.
[–]oneofchaos 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When the genders switch, the narrative changes. Got to love the hypocrisy.
[–]ANUS_CONE 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Maybe the boys do like it. It is still incredibly damaging to their psyche. It will still cause a lot of them to have super fucked up mindsets and boundaries around sex for the rest of their lives. Not to mention the maturity factor. 14 year olds aren’t equipped to deal with the anxiety of fearing they got someone pregnant or might have contracted an STD.
[–]TheGreatConst -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is bs though. A lot of people start to have sex at 14-15 years old. Some at 13 years old or even 12 (I know such a guy, guess what - he is very popular among girls). 16 is the average age if all age groups included (30+ years old virgins as well). In the internet era teens often know more about sex at 12 than 25 years old knew 50 years ago. I would say that at least 80% of teens already watch porn/masturbate starting from 12-13 years old. I would say that, on the contrary, guys who were unable to have sex in their mid-teens struggle through their whole life to get laid, become incels or MGTOW.
The problem with this post is that it implies as if girls didn't like it. It isn't true though because if they didn't it would be a rape case, not the age of consent violation.
[–]Knee_Growss 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What is MgTOW I suck at acronyms
[–]dantedii 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men go their own way
[–]FluffyGalaxy 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't listen to a bitch with a North Korean furry avatar
[–]paleta62 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This feels worse than blaming the victim. "I know you have been raped by a woman that is 34 and you are 12, but you enjoyed it so shut the fuck up"
[–]AbysmalDescent 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The fact that young boys would be more desperate or eager for sex, mostly due to a lack of options, lack of experience, lack of maturity and a lack of sexual worth, doesn't justify the act. Quite the opposite. If anything it demonstrates that those boys are far more vulnerable to exploitation and manipulation, which actually makes it worst.
There are certainly countless cases of statutory rape with young female students "enjoying it", because they thought they were having fun too. Many express crushing on those teachers, many probably even got off on the idea of having that power over their teacher and some probably did it just to be able to blackmail their teachers(which would technically still make them predators, despite their age). The fact that they enjoyed it didn't absolve the teachers involved, and it shouldn't absolve women either.
[–]GrumpyGayGuy 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hope they realize that by saying this, they are essentially saying that women have no autonomy with their sexuality or that they are sexually inferior to men. This statement is saying that only men have the power when it comes to sex and that women have so little autonomy that even when they rape someone, (which most rapes are about power and authority) they still are so sexually inferior that it isn't rape. Just thought I should mention lol. Saying a woman can't rape a man is as much an insult to women as it is men.
[–]-WolfChop- 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I’m interested to hear what people think about MGTOW. Everything online is about how sexist it is, but I’m curious to hear your opinions on it.
[–]notPlancha 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Some are good. Some are terrible. The mindset is fine, the execution less fine. But they're kinda the opposite of MRA'S, since they wouldn't want to go to protests and stuff since they are doing it their way. So the sub should hate it. But you should check out for yourself and formulate your opinion.
[–]JaceLightning 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Saying "you can't rape a man because he likes it" is the female equivalent of saying "women's bodies have a way of shutting that down."
[–]liztu_june 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The problem isnt the sex it the insane power teachers have over students.
[–]DubsPackage 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well a girl could enjoy fucking her male teacher too.
But it doesn't make it right, you are in a position of authority over this young person.
What part of that don't you understand.
[–]poloppoyop 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is completely different: boys mature slower than girls. So when a 14 year old boy is raped, it is the equivalent of a 10 year old girl being raped.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/10529134/Girls-really-do-mature-quicker-than-boys-scientists-find.html
[–]SHASTACOUNTY[🍰] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
just an FYI.....the female student most likely enjoyed it as well. the point of it all is that it is against the law for an adult to have sex with minors. Period.
[–]jinladen040 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is an old post, sir. But it checks out
[–]Im_Not_Trash 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Heartbreaking shit. I can't believe that adults out there think this.
[–]antilopes -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They don't. This is bait.
[–]ColorMePoorly 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It should anger everybody
[–]LegendaryEmu1 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The irony of using #rapeculture with this statement...
Some do, not all, and even the ones that do, we know it fucks them up anyway.
[–]LiquidDreamtime 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Underage women can absolutely pursue and enjoy relationship with older men.
That’s also rightly illegal and shouldn’t happen.
[–]Popular-Uprising- 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is literally saying that if you make a woman orgasm during rape, it's not rape.
Yeah, I really felt uncomfortable when a male teacher was rubbing on me. I did not enjoy it as a 14 yo boy and sure as hell wouldn't enjoy it now.
[–]SharedRegime 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I posted this like 3 weeks ago and it got auto removed. Wtf.
It should have been auto removed this time too. It is stupid bait.
[–]Warod0 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sooo if the female student enjoys it, its not rape? How does that make sense?
[–]donald12998 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Its not rape, the disabled girl seemed to like it". Enjoyment does not imply consent, especially from those who, and stay with me on this one, PHYSICALLY CAN NOT CONSENT!
[–]matrixislife 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Someone should point out to her that female students of male teachers regularly support the teacher, claiming to be in love and going to get married etc. Female students enjoy it. Still evil, whichever sex is the teacher.
[–]Frothy-Water 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I love this “so woke” trend where people become so woke they become the thing they swore to destroy
This isn't woke though, it is exactly the opposite. It is fake but the ideas expressed are the traditional conservative model of sexuality.
[–]ExtendedFox 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Gender equality in the 21st century. Fascinating.
[–]TopcodeOriginal1 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nice very old repost
[–]pm_me_your_buttbulge 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, and I was just talking to someone who is anti-men's rights apparently and, clearly, they follow the mindset like the person above. Strange people in this world. Strange.
[–]PeanutButtHer 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This has to be satire
Hmm, as MGTOW this kinds of comment is a normal Tuesday.
[–]BenGarrity 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s alright everyone, Jesus will come back and shove a boot up their ass.
[–]jeff_the_nurse 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She’s actually right—that is rape culture, and her Tweet exemplifies it.
[–]turbulance4 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Even from a feminist POV (well, a sexually liberated one), this should piss off them too, as it's subtly implies that women are incapable of enjoying sex.
[–]antilopes 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
It does. People who think this is feminist are clueless.
[–]serial_crusher 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“He was asking for it”
[–]HNutz 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How the FUCK is it "different"?
[–]chintan22 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The only way such people would understand is when it happens in their families. But I hope it never does lest the kids be disbelieved as they were supposed to enjoy.
[–]c001hax0r 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Any vaginal or penile stimulation brings pleasure, that doesn't mean, sexual abuse, while it is "rape" for girls, it is not "rape" for boys. Both may derive pleasure from the act, it is the psychological damage that ruins the life and future of both the girls and the boys subject to abuse.
In the Larry Nasser case, the girls asked for him again and again and even requested the same treatment because they were deriving pleasure from the act. This doesn't mean they were not abused, they definitely were. If Larry Nasser is a criminal and a rapist, any woman who abuses a boy in school is also a rapist and deserves the same quanta of punishment otherwise it is a violation of natural justice.
I have seen straight 'A' students being reduced to drug addicts and purposeless loners after a woman abused them. Damage like this, done by a woman is irreparable and forever taints all future relationships of the boys with women. If that is not a crime, what is?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
We must find a cure for liberalism.
I can’t help but get political with all of this, this insane lunatic is clearly a liberal who apparently supports female teachers raping underage boys.
[–]TheAndredal[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
i am a liberal, by the classical sense at least. This is marxist thinking
This is tradcon thinking, nothing to do with Marxism. It is also an obvious fake because they are pretending to be feminist but don't have a clue how to do so. Which doesn't matter because this sort of bait is designed for people who are too clueless to recognise it.
It is bait / satire / attention seeking / shit-stirring by a nobody account with 13 followers that got no likes. Yet somehow it was found and posted here. Which has to make you wonder if it was written to order.
[–]furry8 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Victim blaming is extreme in our culture of female rape.
Imagine a guy saying “she got wet so it wasn’t rape”
[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's not uncommon for women to orgasm during rape.
I guess that means they enjoyed it and it was just a relationship they had.
[–]oneofchaos 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean given how they tried to justify rape here, its not a huge logical jump to take.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Teacher sleeps with student:
If male teacher: low quality mugshot
If female teacher: high quality beach photo
[–]TheAndredal[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
and also tell us how difficult her life is and we need to feel sorry for her
[–]Ph3NiX47 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That person attempted to justify sexism and misandry...
[–]TheAndredal[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
and rape
Modern feminism. Retardation at its finest!
[–]J2501 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hey, guy who got raped by a teacher, an authority figure the shitty local government put in charge of you went so far in her manipulations as to warp your ideas of love and sex, before you were even legally able to consent. Lucky you!
People will always look at you funny, and you might even have some Stockholm Syndrome-esque lingering feelings for that exploiter, who was whisked away by the justice system.
But at the end of the day, some moron on Twitter is going to issue blanket statements about what you, as a man, have enjoyed, no matter what detrimental psychological and social effects you are presently suffering.
[–]Blunt_Sage 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I always thought #rapeculture was just an attention grabbing hashtag and a made up buzzword, but this is a real example of what they call rape culture. She even tagged it! I mean, how far up her own ass is she that she can't see the irony here?!
[–]bonebrew22 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
the really disgusting implication here is that if the victim enjoys it, its not predatory or rape? The guilt of thinking that you were in a loving, caring relationship, having to accept that you were being taken advantage of, is something that both male and female victims struggle with. It's just as harmful to female victims as males.
[–]Im_Just_Sayin_Bro 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I left MGTOW awhile ago but goddamn shit like this makes me want to go back.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"There’s nothing there but beta cucks"
You are no better than them, using such derogatory sexist slurs
"who hate life and blame their inability to coexist socially on feminism."
They do not hate life and coexist in what? This society is trash so is feminism
You are a bad person
[–]MilManShow 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Females Screwing for grades is what now? Sexplain that vagenda insanity.
[–]Kaptain_Konrad 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
That Avatar...
[–]dantedii 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's from a north Korean propaganda animated series
[–]Kaptain_Konrad 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, I know it's a NK propaganda show but I wonder if they knew that. It are just a furry.
[–]OmnipotentToot 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ikr, a furry and a pedophile! How more screwed up can this world get!?
[–]rwp80 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
One of the marks of feminism is hypocrisy, often characterized by the inability to process how they would feel in a vice-versa situation. Their attitude demonstrates a basic lack of empathy, and is commonly a trait among violent psychopaths and narcissists.
Copy this and post it wherever it applies.
This is a repost of a bait post, written by someone who knows a lot less than zero about feminism. Copying it marks you as a gullible neckbeard with no understanding of the subject.
It really is revolting.
[–]Eddthesped1 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
WAIT!!! Your telling me women don't like rape????? I've in looking at this thing all wrong
[–]mzelbasha 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
boooooooom back fire
[–]RedOrbPikachu 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The racist Korean show profile pic too
This society is sick.
[–]jumpinc 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They also have a North Korean cartoon as a profile image.
[–]Cookiedoughjunkie 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's like saying that it's okay with gay men too, because they secretly still want to fuck women or some awkward shit.
[–]scottcockerman 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Are they saying women don't enjoy sex? That's a straight up Victorian view on women.
And of course the profile picture is a furry to top it all off
[–]HappyyBoii 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Seriously dude, why are you bringing furries into this.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
When I was 16 I had a male teacher be inappropriate with me (nothing too bad but still inappropriate) and guess what? I didn’t care. I still don’t care 15 years later. I wasn’t harmed by it at all.
Even if we had sex I probably still wouldn’t have cared.
that makes it ok then... WTF
Just showing that not all girls or women care either. It’s the same no matter who it happens to.
"did you just tried"
try*
[–]JDP518 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If the tweet came from a woman then she's a feminist cunt. If it came from a man then he's a blue pill mangina.
[–]no_talent_ass_clown 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It also disenfranchises women because it presumes they never want sex.
[–]Quix_Nix 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So they are using #rapeculture the same way I use #egalitarianism or #equality (or #BernieTulsi2020)... It is something they support.
It is wrong in both ways.
[–]chambertlo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It should anger you, and it should anger any man that this is what society thinks of you. These putrid women truly believe that their vagina makes them special. It’s fucking hilarious.
[–]DrSanjizant 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yea, no. If a teacher touches my kid? I don't give a flying fiddler's fuck if it's a female teacher touching my son, male teacher touching my daughter, or whatever. If they touch my kid like that, I will fucking END them. They ain't getting off with jail or shit. I'll make them wish they kept their fucking hands to themselves.
Tough guy parents / brothers are a serious problem raped people mention. Reports of vigilante violence which help the victim do happen but they are rare and represent an infintesimal proportion of rapes.
Far more commonly the victim is cut off from support because they can't trust their violent relative so have to keep their rape secret. This is particularly bad for children because they can't secretly get professional support in the way an adult partner or spouse could, and they can't get support at home either.
Listen: You don't know whether your kid has already and is currently being molested, because your kid doesn't trust you not to make it all about yourself. You can't just turn off your feelings but FFS keep your mouth shut about that crap.
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[–]MRCTHULHU47 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Seems like rape is a 2 way street that everyone sees as a 1 way street bunch of cowards unwilling to admit that guys have the right to say no to
[–]TheStumblingWolf 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't let things you have no control over anger you. It's not healthy.
[–]HgeanKidNebula 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
imagine if it said "I wish these feminist fucks would stop trying to compare a female teacher preying on young men to a man having a relationship with one of her female students. It is COMPLETELY different. Female students ENJOY it. #pinkpill #Resist #rapeculture"
[–]tb21666 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Did you just tried
🤨😂🤣🙄
but she was going through some shit. ok, guys. she was stressed
[–]ChristopherBurr 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why are we hiding the identity of someone who has said this publicly on a public forum? Obviously, she wants people to know her opinion.
every time i do, the threads get deleted by mods here... So i am censoring them. Ask them...
[–]emjaytheomachy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The cognitive dissonance is resl. The same women who make this argument are also against slut shaming because "women enjoy sex too, and that's okay you sexist pig."
Me:sees this
Also me:https://images.app.goo.gl/z4LWJR51YCEbqJxs9
[–]Sarm11111 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Of course it’s different girl. Ones male and ones female, there are differences in maturity an the ages 12 and up and girls are far more mature and capable of making personal choices. By 15 most women have stopped growing and has all the characteristics mentally and physically of a women. Though we now call it statutory rape for a man over 18 to have sex with a 15 year old where in many countries, min 𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐝𝐚 included had the age of consent at 14 l4ss then 20 years ago. Boys however are not usually in puberty at 14, if you’ve ever seen grades 6 and 7 yout swear the girls were 10 years older.. so when a female teacher has sex with a boy 12-15 they get a immature, physically and mentally developing kid that follows his pecker around after that funny feeling climbing rope in game class caused.
Facts are both are rape, b4cause it’s the law and teachers are in a position of authority. And as far as damaged done to young minds it is likely that those boys are more apt to be affected. So unless you just hate boys and sexist the truth is women teachers are twice the predators men are when in a position of authority like teachers and it is very much rape. But I doubt women like the one above will ever believe there a pedo female teachers or rather that those rapist women should ever face the consequences or accountability...after all they Are women!
Oh and one last thing, how do you know they enjoyed it or that women didn’t. A little trivia, are you aware that the majority of female rape victims orgasm during their rape? It’s true, so if we follow her hypothesis does orgasming during rape mean they enjoyed it. By what standard do you make the assertion that men liked it. Is it because the became the boys became erect and ‘ orgasmed? Your argument lacks credibility on multiple levels. If it’s okay because they liked it, ? can we have sex with young girls if they to liked it? What if the boy says he didn’t like it. Is it ok to now persecute women like we do men? Men can have sex and not like it, in fact it’s common, its the basis of laws like “forced to penetrate”. Or as guys say, RAPE.
Your equal now cupcake stop victim blaming male rape survivors .
[–]impressmesoon 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I can’t lie that scenario wouldnt be too bad IMO
Yes. Yes she did.
[–]YuenHsiaoTieng 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Female students enjoy it. Everyone enjoys it. The only people who don't enjoy it are third party jealous sex-negative puritans.
I'll just mention that the psychological damage is typically more severe and more prolonged in the people who did enjoy it than in those who didn't.
[–]YuenHsiaoTieng -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Those people are traumatized by their own guilt. In a society where it is not a crime, we see the act itself does no damage.
[–]antilopes -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What society are you so familiar with that you can say this?
Your claim is contradicted by the people who were simply raped, felt no pleasure, yet were harmed immensely. No guilt is required to be catastrophically harmed.
Certainty public stigma exacerbates the harm done but that does not mean removing the stigma would remove all harm.
Inappropriate guilt is a very common common feature of all types of psychological trauma, it does not need to have even the slightest rational basis. Consider survivor guilt. A person survives a train wreck for 100% random reasons while people around them are harmed or killed. Often they will end up with survivor guilt. They know it makes no sense, and that does not help them. Worse, there often is some thing they did which could be imagined to give them a share of the blame, or it obviously does. They will hyperfocus and obsess over that thing. Either way they have a big problem that is nothing to do with social pressure or laws.
Sexually exploited people will often have that guilt completely regardless circumstances, just like the non-sexual survivors.
TL;DR You understand little about this subject. Be aware that normal people who see your opinion will suspect you are one or more of: Autistic or socially retarded, a psychopath, an extreme libertarian, an incel hoping to exploit children's ignorance and weakness, or a pedophile.
[–]YuenHsiaoTieng -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Your claim is contradicted by the people who were simply raped, felt no pleasure, yet were harmed immensely. No guilt is required to be catastrophically harmed." That's not the group we're talking about. My comment was a response to your statement about "the people who did enjoy it." Non-consensual sexual acts result in psychological trauma, duh.
The society with which I am familiar is every single known society in the history of the earth prior to the invention of this hysteria with first wave feminism. Which is more likely, that virtually all human beings were raped prior to 1875, or that we're experiencing an irrational moral panic?
I'm well researched on the topic and am committed to defending the human right to a private consensual sex life.
[–]stormspireit 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Where were the teachers like this when I was young??
[–]Mackowatosc 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Writer is probably a pedo female. Lots of those around.
[–]ZukusCatHeaven_Art 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Actually on Twitter the writer’s a male
[–]Masterchefpetyofficr -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s a troll account
[–]MASTERoQUADEMAN -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why is not FDS quarantined, so now ur supporting reddit double standards, you are a bad person
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nice
You haven't the faintest idea about feminism if you think this would be supported by any wave of feminists. It is particularly laughable that you don't realise of all the waves, the third wave is most strongly opposed to this.
This post is satirical / bait by an account with 13 followers.
[+]ThatOneGuy173173 -18 points-17 points-16 points 4 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link
Mgtow harms men's rights
Stop comparing us
Edit: mgtow idiots downvoting
[–][deleted] 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
[+]ThatOneGuy173173 -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Name one time mgtow has done anything good for men in general
You can't I can't! It's like trying to name everytime Will Smith visited space with NASA it never happened.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No they are not and if they are why is fds not quarantined
[–]ThatOneGuy173173 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What's fds
[–]ThatOneGuy173173 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh
[+]Bondaloren -30 points-29 points-28 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
i declare female teachers can rape me
wtf...
you're just wrong...
[–]UnknownGraves -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
MGTOW is garbage though
[+]lukesvader -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
You know this sub is trash, right? Since when did men not have rights?
[–]Minnesotan-Gaming 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Let me give you an example. A girlfriend hits her boyfriend, the guy tries his hardest to not fight back but she eventually gets into beating him up. He hits her and it leaves a bruise, the cops arrive and arrest the man for domestic abuse because according to the law they have to take the side of the woman as truth at first until the guy is proven innocent. Even if they guy is bleeding or visibly more hurt and she just has a bruise they still label the guy as the abuser and unfortunately in most cases the guy cannot defend himself in court because the law always favors on the side of the woman.
[–]lukesvader -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
How does that mean the guy doesn't have rights? It's just an instance of the cops being douchebags. They are all instances.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Men losing 84% of right of the child
[–]lukesvader -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Show me the law.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Facepalm.
[–]lukesvader 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Jim Crow and apartheid were sets of laws that took black people's rights away. Show me the laws that disenfranchise men. When have men ever not had rights?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Are you being stupid on purpose.This isnt rights like rights to drinking water.But inequality in laws.
[–]lukesvader 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
The fuck you talking about?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Men lose 84% of custody cases. Men when not proven guilty of rape,still get their name put up and accused to death,while the opposite does not happen.And this one is TRULY right based.When men get raped,instead of like with women,deciding they dont want to do anything with the child,men often times have to pay child support.
[+]ashu1605 -10 points-9 points-8 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I made a comment on another post regarding this.
I'm 16.
I would enjoy it... granted the teacher was hot and not weird or anything and we vibed... but only if it was consensual.
I know so many dudes too scared to give their consent, because they've never been in a sexual situation and dont know how to act, how to say no and stand up for themselves, how to recognize the difference between making a choice and being forced into situation. Society trains us dudes to treat pussy like it's golden, a once in a lifetime experience, and if a woman is offering, you definitely cannot turn it down. But that's toxic as hell :/
Edit: so glad I found this sub. hope some bros find it as well and realize the power they hold over their body and mind.
[–]Minnesotan-Gaming 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Here’s the thing... in almost all cases like you just described, they enjoyed it and bragged about it for the first few weeks then it sets in and they go into depression and live with that grief the rest of their life
[–]ashu1605 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Could you explain how exactly you get depressed and grieve after having consensual intercourse?
Depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain. Grief is deep sorry.
What exactly causes someone to go through this after having sex consensually? I get it if it was not consensual, but consensually speaking it doesnt make sense to me so please elaborate.
[–]Minnesotan-Gaming 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
watch this
[+]human8ure -12 points-11 points-10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Does anyone seriously think that if they were a 14 yr old boy who had sexytime with his teacher that it would be just as damaging as if the sexes were reversed?
[–]Minnesotan-Gaming 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
You... are the reason men struggle to come forward and say they were raped
[+]human8ure -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You want to try and answer the question or just hurl accusations?
[+][deleted] -19 points-18 points-17 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Yes, she just tried to justify rape/pedophilia.
Yes, MGTOW is a trash incel sub for alt-righties and other degenerates.
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
If you want to insult mgtow at least don't spread fake news
[+][deleted] -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Downvote to your heart's content, doesn't make it any less true.
Best of luck removing yourself from these cesspools of toxicity, out-group hatred, and self-loathing!
Therapy would be better.
[–]shivaay69 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
You are mad because people have actually started to acknowledge MRAs and Mgtows it's all over the internet now,i see it everywhere and it's only going to grow with time,now let that sink in,and get more triggered since your feminism movement is hypocritic and people are waking up and realizing that
[+][deleted] -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Oof, yeah, literally none of that is true, lol.
MGTOW is a cesspool of incels and alt-right degenerates blaming women for all their insecurities and problems.
You people are sad, pathetic jokes, and the world knows it. :)
Best of luck in your inevitable therapy!
[–]shivaay69 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Alt right degenerates lmao?yeah except i'm a person of color and i hate white supremacist,Mgtow even has a black off shoot known as ibmor,so it's clearly in no way an alt right sub,and majority of the people on there were either married or had been in abusive relationships,so that kinda negates your point about them being incels
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
It seems you also see alt-right and white supremacist as overlapping groups! That's really interesting!
People of color, like yourself, aren't immune to degenerate behavior, and absolutely nothing you've said has "negated my point". You can be an incel and have had sex in the past, lol.
So far you've said absolutely nothing to change my mind, but a lot to prove everything I've said, so thanks for that, lol.
Keep being losers that blame women for all your problems, you're really "mature" and "intelligent" people, lol. Fucking figure it out and get some therapy before you hurt someone.
[–]shivaay69 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
Feminist twats : Mgtows are bitter virgins Mgtows:Nah i have had sex and relationships in the past,and i feel the juice isn't worth the squeeze
Feminist twats:You could have all the sex and still be virgins uhm what?
help me understand your logic here fuckhead anyone saying,young boys being raped is just as deplorable as the other way around is a bitter virgin incel?gtfoh
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
That some real revisionist bullshit history! No wonder you blame everyone else for everything, this is downright moronic!
Here, let me FTFY:
Me, a normal dude that doesn't blame women for all my problems: This woman is dumb, but MGTOW is dumber. MGTOW Incel Moron: NUH UH I'M BLACK THEREFORE I CAN'T BE ALT-RIGHT AND SOME PEOPLE IN MGTOW AREN'T VIRGINS SO THEY CAN'T BE INCELS Me: Lol, you just confirmed that you think the alt-right are white supremacists, and incels are currently involuntarily celibate - not just virgins, lol. MGTOW Incel Moron: LOL 'FeMiNiSt TwAtS' CLAIMING YOUNG BOYS BEING RAPED IS THE SAME AS BEING A VIRGIN
Me, a normal dude that doesn't blame women for all my problems: This woman is dumb, but MGTOW is dumber.
MGTOW Incel Moron: NUH UH I'M BLACK THEREFORE I CAN'T BE ALT-RIGHT AND SOME PEOPLE IN MGTOW AREN'T VIRGINS SO THEY CAN'T BE INCELS
Me: Lol, you just confirmed that you think the alt-right are white supremacists, and incels are currently involuntarily celibate - not just virgins, lol.
MGTOW Incel Moron: LOL 'FeMiNiSt TwAtS' CLAIMING YOUNG BOYS BEING RAPED IS THE SAME AS BEING A VIRGIN
Did I miss anything? Nope, I don't think I did, lol. You people are fucking stupid and you've proven everything I've said in this comment chain, so thanks! Lol.
[–]shivaay69 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Mgtow : I'm not a white supremacist on the contarary i hate them.
Feminist Twat : reee just because you are brown doesn't mean you aren't a white supremacist virgin
Mgtow:Mgtow stands for volunatry celibates and i have had sex in the past,i just feel it's not worth all the fuss.
Feminist Twat:Reee you are a virgin one can have sex and still be virgin reeee why do you hate women
Mgtow:Stop it pal,get some help the only person who seems miserable here is you
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