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Video shows family and health workers laughing their asses off as crying boy shouts "I'm still a virgin!" during his "circumcision".

July 31, 2021
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There are ongoing disagreements on the extent to which children in fact experience forced cosmetic genital mutilation as sexual.

I hereby present a case that proves that at least a subset of children not only experience it as sexual, but even associate it with more abstract concepts like virginity, which should not yet concern them at all - let alone in this context.

In april this year, a filipino facebook user posted a video of his nephew during his "circumcision". According to a filipino news article, the video of the boy's "hilarious" reaction went viral.

If you only want to see the video, here is the direct link to the CDN. This is not a backup nor a reupload and might break in the future if facebook decides to remove the video:

Direct link to the video linked by the article.

The video shows the boy pinned down by others - begging and crying for them to stop. Whilst struggling, he complains that his penis is being touched and that he is getting an erection.

Edit: Just to be clear, the video contains no nudity and the induction of artificial erections during surgeries is in itself not abnormal - surgeries, however, are usually consensual.

This case is not more sexual than others, which is why the reaction of the boy is a strong indicator that the practice as a whole is experienced as much more sexualized than many want to admit.

The news article states that:

A Facebook user named [...] has shared the video footage of his nephew’s hilarious reaction during his circumcision. The video garnered various reactions from the online community. In the video, it can be seen that the young boy is complaining about health personnel touching his genital for circumcision. The medical personnel continue to conduct the operation while the kid kept on complaining

His complaints are met with laughter by the whole room until eventually, at second 8 of the facebook video:

The kid’s family and the health workers laughed after the boy shouted “V!rg!n pa ako”.

"Virgin pa ako!" means "I'm still a virgin!". Looking at the video, "laughing" is an understatement.

A subtitled version of the video, which has since been removed for violation of the ToS, was posted to youtube under the title:

BOY FUNNY REACTION WHILE BEING CIRCUMCISED(VIRAL BATANG TINUTULI NAKAKATUWA),😂😂🤣🤣

This 37 second facebook video is not complete though. More videos of him have been shared with this one being only the beginning and him still being comparatively calm. Due to the language barrier, I can't really go into it though, apart from them occasionally laughing as he screams bloody murder.

The video displays the cruel treatment of boys and men around the world - where they are still hunted down for refusing to undergo the assault or it is used as a form of punishment.

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Title Video shows family and health workers laughing their asses off as crying boy shouts "I'm still a virgin!" during his "circumcision".
Author DistrictAccurate
Upvotes 1146
Comments 62
Date July 31, 2021 6:19 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]OctaviaPinfold 436 points437 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

In the 21st century this should count as multiple crimes.

[–]DistrictAccurate[S] 137 points138 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed.

[–]Sergey32321 101 points102 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Seriously, pedophilia should be fully illegal already

[–]biigberry 85 points86 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Just because the attraction is involuntary doesn't mean the action is. Don't say it's just "pedophilia". It's sexual assult.

[–]LordMasterN 23 points24 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Unfortunately, we are ruled by pedophiles, so don’t expect that to happen anytime soon.

[–]DrainageSpanial -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Epstein pimped Trump teen girls.

[–]NidaleesMVP 13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

As long as it's not happening to women most people won't care. They are too busy screaming feminism and outraging about catcalling. So sadly, we gonna have to wait a couple more decades or centuries until male genital mutilation and similar sexual assaults towards boys and male infants become illegal in 1st world countries.

[–]TankVet 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The Philippines is horrifying.

[–]414RequestURITooLong 203 points204 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like extremely depraved stuff, bordering on child porn. I don't think I need to see it.

[–]DistrictAccurate[S] 89 points90 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Just to be clear: the video contains no nudity and the induction of artificial erections during surgeries is in itself not abnormal - surgeries, however, are usually consensual.

This case is not more sexual than others, which is why the reaction of the boy is a strong indicator that the practice as a whole is experienced as much more sexualized than many want to admit.

I would love for me to not have to see this either - and at some point had to accept that telling people about it was not enough for that to ever happen. People whom you tell about it will obviously agree that it is bad, yet somehow still only find the time to share posts on FGM by accounts who act like the only valid issue of men is not being allowed to cry because "toxic masc".

[–]414RequestURITooLong 66 points67 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I understand that circumcision entails medical personnel touching the patient's penis quite a bit. I was circumcised myself - willingly, for actual medical reasons, as an adult.

But your description of a boy that's going to be mutilated against his will, while his family openly mocks him, records it all and shares it so that more people can enjoy his suffering... That just sounds too fucked up.

[–]theAnalepticAlzabo 27 points28 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Actually that puts you in a rare position: you know what adult life is like both cirumsized and uncircumcised. You should consider doing an AMA in this subreddit.

May I ask: how much did sex and/or your self perception change for you? It’s none of my business, I’m just curious as a circumcised dude.

[–]414RequestURITooLong 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Penetrative sex was an impossibility for me before circumcision (very severe phimosis), so unfortunately I can't compare. I remember masturbation felt more nuanced before, but not sure if it was better.

I miss my foreskin somewhat, just because it was a part of my body. But I don't regret having been cut in my circumstances, it needed to be done.

I like the fact that I had a choice. Even if you know that a child will positively need a circumcision before he can fully function sexually, you should still wait until he can decide for himself, unless his penis gets frequently infected or there is a risk of irreparable damage for some reason.

The surgery wasn't as horrible as I expected, but both it and the recovery were still painful and very uncomfortable. Nobody should be forced to endure that for no good reason when they can't even understand what is being done to them and why.

[–]18Apollo18 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was circumcised myself - willingly

What are you doing on this sub then??

[–]TwinSong 140 points141 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Circumcision is genital mutilation and should be completely outlawed imo. Religion is no excuse for this kind of abuse. The only acceptable scenario is where it is medically required and then must be performed by a surgeon using all ethical measures as with other surgeries (including patient unconscious).

[–]chocoboat 47 points48 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Non-medically required cosmetic surgery is fine too, as long as it's a legal adult requesting it to be done to himself.

The problem with circumcision is not that it exists, but that it's done to people without their consent.

[–]18Apollo18 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Non-medically required cosmetic surgery is fine too, as long as it's a legal adult requesting it to be done to himself.

There's no other part of your body which you can legally get ampuated and have it be considered a cosmetic surgery

[–]chocoboat 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Maybe not amputated, but people do all kinds of weird shit with their face and ears with tattoos and piercings and other body modification stuff. Seems insane to me but I say it's their body, their choice.

But maybe you're right, the line has to be drawn somewhere. If someone wants their legs amputated because they feel like the wheelchair life is right for them, we don't that. We don't help people blind themselves to be part of the blind community. Where exactly is the line? You could say "do no harm", but people could argue some of the body modification stuff is harm...

I don't know. I think it's just easiest to let the religious nuts get their own parts cut just to appease them, realistically it wouldn't be worth the legal battle to ban it entirely, if that was something that could even be done. Religion and this silly practice is dying out so it'll fade away in time, we just need to end it being done on people without consent.

[–]try_____another 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’d suggest the line should be “if this happened to you involuntarily, would you get a disability pension or be eligible for legally required adjustments”, translated into the local legal idiom. In American terms, that last bit would probably be “would it count as a disability under the ADA”.

[–]NidaleesMVP 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The problem with circumcision is not that it exists, but that it's done to people without their consent.

Honestly, both are problems. Circumcision is genital mutilation and in most cases it's harmful, why should it be okay to be performed in hospitals for religious or pseudoscientific reasons? And why is it okay when it's being performed on males while it's absolutely illegal on females even if the females give consent?

If mutilating male genitals in hospitals for religious reasons is not a problem just because the adult gives consent, then ending people's lives in hospitals for religious reasons should also be okay as long as the adult gives consent. Like some religious nuts who believe in reincarnation or some other nonsense.

[–]Brooks148 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

As far as I know, in the US, Canada and many other places women can legally mutilated their genitals, just not in a hospital. They need to seek out body modification artists. If you dig into that scene you will find stuff that people willingly do to their body that goes way beyond religious levels of mutilation.

I think the UK tried or did pass laws that made even simple genital piercing on women or illegal but I don't remember the details.

[–]Jayeky 17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's abuse man.

[–]derryroadfenian 74 points75 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Horrible, I have lost faith in humanity

[–]CooperKravitz 55 points56 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Yet women have the audacity to say they have less rights than men, when men are literally having parts of their body chopped off regularly in pretty much every country.

[–]Lollypop_Starship 25 points26 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. I was told by a woman that circumcision of male children is OK because it's just extra skin that boys don't need. I'm against circumcision for all children. It should be treated as a serious felony.

[–]CooperKravitz 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep and it’s not her decision to decide what another person needs. Our body, our choice

[–]NidaleesMVP 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't even call it circumcision anymore, I always call it genital mutilation because this is what it is.

[–]Lollypop_Starship 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

good point

[–]Stonercat123yt 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It should be life I’m prison. Possibly ruin a life . Ruin your owm

[–]bombarclart 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not most of Europe but your point is still valid.

[–]Stand_Alone50 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I've already lost my hope to humanity, never having it back up again.

[–]JRatMain16 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

r/humansbeingbros Try this subreddit. Hope it helps!

[–]MRRamming 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You still have faith?

[–]derryroadfenian 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No fucking way!

[–]TidusXFinal 50 points51 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sickening.

[–]chucklesomeDordoise 42 points43 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

this is horrible

[–]BenGFHC 49 points50 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

If anyone is in the UK, could someone do one of those government petitions asking to get it banned. I believe it's 10k signatures and it's automatically has to be heard in the house of commons. I think you can do it here: https://petition.parliament.uk/ it has to be done by a UK resident though.

[–]Kodst3rGames 33 points34 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

It's 100,000 signatures to get it debated in parliament, and it's not going to pass. We have a strong conservative parliament and they're not changing anything

[–]DarthVeigar_ 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I wouldn't say they wouldn't try and change anything. The NHS itself has called for a ban on circumcision of children many times.

But the problem is it kept getting shot down as islamophobic so it went nowhere. As long as the religious lobby is as powerful as it is nothing would change.

[–]try_____another 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

And with Starmer trying to convince everyone that the reason he’s losing the Muslim vote is that Muslims are all antisemites, the Tories aren’t going to do anything to deter them from voting Tory. Meanwhile, Labour can’t do anything even if they were in government because the only pretext for the leadership spill that put him in power that doesn’t make him look like an idiot or liar is antisemitism, so he can’t do anything about it either (plus his wife probably wouldn’t be happy).

[–]BenGFHC 16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Worth a shot to raise awareness?

[–]chief-w 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, we have a similar rule in the us constitution. But neither of our dominant parties will take it seriously.

[–]aigars2 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Male genital mutilation should be banned.

[–]coloradocaniac 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is sickening and digusting.

[–]vwatchrepair 44 points45 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Women getting catcalled get more attention and outrage.....Change my mind.

[–]GG1312 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course it does you dummy!

In one a women's feelings are hurt but in the other there are no feelings being hurt!

You can't hurt a men's feelings because they don't have any!

/s

Edit: I had to put a huge /s because people are apparently blind

[–]invertedagent 18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course it gets more attention, it's happening to women

[–]the-yellowflash 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It has always blown my mind how "female genital mutilation" is automatically understood to be bad while "circumcision" is literally the same thing but isn't. I think this is one of the worst cases of double-standards and discrimination men face as it completely changes a person's life forever, without his knowledge or consent.

Edit: posted this in feminism sub lmao let's see how it goes

[–]DrainageSpanial 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Sorry I couldn't watch.

[–]AndemianAndem1 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I ain’t gonna watch, feel like I’ll end up in the FBI watchlist.

[–]Gumgumf 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

How inhumane. Mutilating a sensitive body part and also laughing at the victim.

[–]Downtown_Oil6276 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought they sedated them. Do they not?

Also…what??? How can they laugh while he is without a doubt expressing that he is being violated sexually?

[–]Zpointe 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wtf?

[–]leachlurker 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

1:30 and now sad as fuck seeing this shit

[–]Eckmatarum 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The fuck....

[–]NWTFH 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I have never honestly thought about this, it happened, not just me but my other brothers. It was all “normal”, I have even spent a time in the military and even during boot camp you will evidently see another mans cock. Sometimes even for humor and a morale boost. But the majority were circumcised…. This blows my mind now. I never even asked my Mum about it.

[–]LoonyEqlipse 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is one of the only subjects that I am genuinely passionate about. Genital mutilation should not take place on an individual who does not consent, including children. The only exception is if it is 100% medically necessary.

[–]Chun_Lai 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think I could handle watching the video... His face was enough to haunt my dreams.

[–]battle-kitteh 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

As a human being and a mother, this brought me to tears. Just seeing the caption and the photo.

This shit happens EVERY day. Sick.

[–]sdlcur 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Jesus Christ I’m sick

[–]needletothebar 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

"not anymore".

[–]NXTISAWESOME 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Disgusting!!!

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