If you don't like the bad and baseless generalizations about men that you can see in r/TwoXChromosomes or in some other feminists forums and subreddits. Then don't generalize about women yourself.
If you don't like how men are labeled as violent brutes and rapists, then don't label women as lying and manipulative harpies yourself.
If you don't like how some feminists and some women distrust all men cause they were raped or abused or are afraid to be raped, abused or killed. Then don't distrust all women yourself like every single one of them is out there looking to destroy men in some way.
If you don't like how some feminists ask women to stop dating men or having sex with them cause she thinks that men are abusive rapists. If you think that they are sexist and crazy (and they are), then don't tell men to stop dating or having sex with women cause they are all lying 'whores'' who will all destroy your life in a whim too.
And no, this is not a ''concern troll'' or a ''shill'' or whatever stupid term that some people here want to shout at everyone who they don't agree with.
I'm genuinely concerned about this sub and this movement, we are beginning to grow and be herd, and some sexist and misogynistic mothefuckers want to use this chance and jump on the wagon to spout their sexist bullshit to a bigger audience.
And the only ones that they will be hurting in the end is men and this movement. We are sometimes having problems to have people listen and agree with our message that we are disadvantaged in some fields and that we are lacking some rights.
So do you think that people will listen to their stupid and sexist bullshit? No. They will disregard them and any man who would want to speak about men's rights. They will lump us all together cause those sexist turds are using this sub, this movement and our platforms to spout their mysogynistic bullshit.
And the problem is that in many cases, they are upvoted. Especially whenever the topics of marriage, sex or dating comes up. Then they come in herds and you see all the sexist generalization about women being upvoted to the top sometimes.
We should watch out, cause not only this sub will lose any credibility we already have, this sub may be even quarantined or banned.
r/theredpill and r/braincels are quarantined, and they are getting way less traffic the last time I checked them out. They have to go somewhere, and this sub is one of the biggest subreddits about men in this website. So it's no surprise that they want to come here to make it their second home, and as a consequence, drag us all down.
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3-month old account, all the posts for this sub made today, 3/4 in this post...this isn't fishy to anyone else?
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You were here a year ago with your reddit account created in late August of this year?
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The "Moral High Ground" is not what is necessary when fighting against feminism. -- One must defeat the enemy using tactics even more horrific than that of your enemy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD0rU6-7sKs
If they lie, cheat, disparage, force their numbers against you via the law, then do the same to them, only with more force and punitive action.
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By saving his son.
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He did it at the most important time that he could. I feel like that's what he wanted but he was unable to up until that point.
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I don't see anything that would fit what you are saying.
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I see one comment that could qualify, highly downvoted...where exactly is the problem?
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So you could easily link to some examples then?
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That's the only example you could find? Holy shit you're stupid.
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I think seeing women identity themselves here is important. It shows men they have support, and it shows women they have a social or political space away from contemporary feminism.
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How could you think there's no such thing as transphobia when people attack and kill trans people for being trans?
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I don't hate all femminist either, but i do hate the crazy bitches who scream "patriarchy" everytime you try to talk to them and sometimes goes as far as physically attacking men for being men.
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Why not? They hate you. They espouse an ideology based on their hatred of you.
Would you say to a Jewish person they could only disagree with the Nazis, not hate them?
To turn a phrase and re-appropriate it from the other side, I feel that "hating feminists" is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them. And although there are exceptions (as in everything), i.e., women who are trying to be traitors to their own class, most women cheerfully affirm their deadly class privileges and power. And I hate that class.
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I was with you until you put "women" instead of "feminists" in here.
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In the context of the original quote, the word "women" applied more accurately than "feminists" did. Sorry that you're more offended by the simple switching a replacing of men with women I posted than by the original quote about hating on men all the way through, not any men's movement.
I guess that says a lot about where you and those upvoting you are coming from...
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So while I agree with your theory that men shouldn't stoop to feminists' level, you can't argue that their tactics have been ruthlessly effective. I love the idea of winning a war of ideology with clean, fair, logical arguments, but the other side is fighting down in the ditch and are presupposed to be correct by main stream media. What happens when you bring a knife to a gun fight?
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A moral win is still a loss.
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Can you cite some examples of highly upvoted sexist comments in posts with traction?
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You're not appeasing them. You're appeasing those they are unknowingly following them under false pretenses. The vast majority of people say are feminists because people say feminism is about equal rights. They don't know the negative shit and will never know the negative shit if MRA's look like they "hate women". They will see the hate and discount the entire movement. Which...sounds familiar... except MRA's don't have power.
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I agree. I do appreciate this sub, very much. It's great to have a group of people that see the what the world is doing to men. We just need to be careful we do not turn into what we despise. We will never make progress that way.
My girlfriend fully supports and understands my distrust of modern feminism. She is a wonderful woman and so I know, first hand, they wonderful women still exist. When we first met she was a self proclaimed feminist. She even had the usual attitude towards MRA's. I quickly learned that she only had that attitude because she had literally never heard any other message. She had been denied the right to make an informed choice because she only had one story. If I'd have just approached her with the attitude that she was the enemy I would never have got to know the wonderful woman I now know and love. She even bought tickets for us to see Jordan Peterson for recently. I welcome birthday gift.
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Fuck off, this is concern trolling.
Any outright sexist comments are quickly downvoted, there's literally only one post in this comment chain that could qualify and it's highly downvoted.
You know what else is highly downvoted? Any post pointing this fact out or calling you a concern troll, which you are.
Obvious brigade is obvious.
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They don't point out examples because they'd inevitably link to a post that's highly downvoted or was removed by the mods.
They're essentially saying they don't like the fact that we don't somehow preemptively ban sexist commentors before they can post.
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This place was never going to last. Trying to play nice with the admins does nothing to change the fact they hate that we are organizing ourselves together and sharing information online. No matter how much we bend over backwards sooner or later they will kill this sub and it will happen because of our supposed misogyny.
We are men who have left the plantation. We are Oliver Twists asking for more of what is owed us. Of course they're going to pound us down as a nail sticking up. We must be made an example of and shut down to show the rest of the men that feminism is the only acceptable way to ask to be treated as human. And we've seen how well that's worked...
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There's literally one post that could possible qualify, it's highly downvoted.
It's like that with pretty much every post in every subreddit, some offensive comments get downvoted to the bottom quickly.
Some people, like you and OP, either can't handle the fact the preemptive banning isn't a thing, or hold up such unpopular comments as examples of the popularity of the content of those comments...which is retarded.
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Bullshit. It’s a majority of the sub and post.
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This is why I can’t get behind r/MGTOW. Their AWALT attitude is simply a piss-poor defense mechanism and the double standard is laughable. If they want to assume all women are lying harlots, then all men must be mysoginistic rapists.
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Because you LITERALLY have a history of defending nazis
https://reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/9tu93h/_/e8zqqae/?context=1
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Let's look at how the world is. Women have banded together enmass under the guise of feminism to abandon their traditional gender responsibilities. We know women see responsibility as cancer so this is no surprise. During this time the feminists spent years building a "scholarly" literature of man blaming and man hating, of thinly veiled Marxism and communism. Feminism hides behind it's thin facade of equality a female supremacy movement that openly proclaims the future is female and men are toxic. Fuck your civility we need to take women's rights away. Period.
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Are you seriously advocating taking away the right to vote for women? Because holy 1800’s. You are what OP is railing against.
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