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[–]Phixer7 657 points658 points659 points 5 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link
Will the FBI be raiding her house soon and making a federal case against her. I'm waiting....
[–]evan19994 303 points304 points305 points 5 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
No shes a strong independent Black Woman
[–]UltraD00d 109 points110 points111 points 5 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Cosby was a black man himself.
[–]8orhigherbro 186 points187 points188 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wasn’t strong, independent, or woman.
[–]Minoxidil 64 points65 points66 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
he is widely regarded as an uncle tom though
i always find that funny, when "uncle tom" is used as a rude word for a black person who has high status in white culture. the original book 'uncle toms cabin' was written during the height of slavery, and was intended to humanize slaves and demonize slave-owners but because of the time period it was written in, the author had to be comparatively very delicate so as to not stir up more controversy than they did, which was a fucking lot
but nah, 200 years later all it means is race traitor.
[–]Mugin 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Indeed. Unless you are an obedient puppet for the far left you are for sure an Uncle Tom these days.
It's part of the stereotype they need all these people they champion to adhere to. Can't have a trans or a gay person walking around acting like any other person and you cant have a poc acting too white.
Just look at this example from an old Disney drawing episode that was linked here on reddit some days ago. Notice anyone sticking out? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-5pzxAcCm4 (It's at 1:33 for those with little patience)
They teach kids that they have to act and speak a certain way if they look a certain way. Still, if we are to talk about systemic racism they will certainly point the finger at anyone on the right who does not support their views.
[–]Minoxidil 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
that's something I've always felt really sad about honestly. there AREN'T any poor kids from the ghetto magically getting acting jobs. there's only upper middle class kids getting acting lessons and commercial deals from the time they're in diapers
how disgusting must it feel to walk into an audition for Disney channel, act out a Shakespearean monologue, and then be told "that's great but we want you to act like you'd be shocked if you found out they actually sell juice made from real fruit at the grocery store and your biological father who is actually in upper management at a large company is actually in prison for drug dealing and beating a hooker to death" "why" "because we want a real black person"
[–]crnext 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Tell me about it!
I'm so sick of shit these days. I'm sick and fucking tired of SOMEBODY having to always rock the got-damn boat.
Seriously, fuck everybody who needs to stir up the stinking shit-pot.
[–]Minoxidil 17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
and FUCK everyone who takes literature out of historical context for political or social gain
TAKING THINGS OUT OF CONTEXT IS FOR UNINTENTIONAL HUMOR PURPOSES AND PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE LAZY ARGUMENTS ONLY
[–]crnext 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Amen brotha! Woo!
(I'm actually serious)
[+]SuperAleste1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
He was more of an oreo
[–]Sindoray 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Is this a racial 18+ sandwich reference?
[–]Sityu91 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No, it's JoJo
But in actuality, oreo is a real term in literary theory. Means black on the outside, white on the inside.
[–]Sindoray 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
TIL. Thanks!
[–]tylerden 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In my country they were called coconuts
You hit a key note there almost at the end.
Something in the chord of 'M'
[–]ac714 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But no one ever gave her anything. What was she supposed to do?
Like the female mirror image of a violent incel. Treat her the same way.
[–]eclectro 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
She probably did this early in her career when she needed to rob privileged white men. Additionally, if she is arrested, she will just need to be sure to post bond and do some community service.
[–]crnext 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hear pussypass echoing in the subtle breeze.
[–]MrJonesWildRide -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Black privilege
[–]DavidRandom 26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Has anyone actually accused her of drugging and robbing them?
I mean, Johnny Cash said he shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die, but there was never any investigation.
[–]d_fens99 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yes, what she did was reprehensible. But the justice system needs more than an admission though, right? Doesn't it also need an accuser with some credible evidence to open up a case?
[–]DavidRandom 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's the point I was making.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
boycotts dont need proof and havent for years. the far left proved that.
[–]meemer222 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah one guy did... but he didn't press charges, thus no investigation
[–]TheGreatCanjuju 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No way
[–]gas_the_tradcons 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Cosby is innocent, the crimes he is accused of are impossible to prove in a court of law 30 years later
Can't until a witness presses charges. It's like a random person admitting on social media that they killed a lot of people, the person isn't going to get arrested for it until a witness comes forward connecting the person or something he/she implied connected him/her to another case... Point is that this case won't go forward unless a) a witness connects her to a specific victim of this crime or b) one of the victims come forward and press charges
[–]julie_k8 146 points147 points148 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
It’s a shame that degenerate women are idolized.
[–]Tiiimmmbooo 47 points48 points49 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I've been downvoted to shit because I said that Mia Khalifa was whore on reddit before lol.
[–]droidtime 36 points37 points38 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Shes just a shitty person. Being a whore is probably the best thing about her.
[–]julie_k8 -5 points-4 points-3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Seriously, lol. But there’s nothing that’s good about being a whore, lol.
[–]elliphant2722 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Except getting paid for it, which she does or did.
[–]julie_k8 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You’re right about that one.
[+]BloodRedCobra -8 points-7 points-6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How is she a shitty person? I feel like you're just attacking her because she's a porn actress, even though I'd bet my last Benjamin you've whacked it to porn before.
[–]julie_k8 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Just difference of opinion. Or people who suck up to these weird celebrities. I don’t understand the hype anyway.
[–]Tiiimmmbooo 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Mia being a being a whore is definitely not a matter of opinion lol
[–]julie_k8 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Haha, I know. Just saying that some people will throw their opinions onto why she is the best or whatever. It’s not even her being a whore either. She keeps going to the same stupid person that broke her heart. I dunno, just blows my mind lol.
[–]Mattman624 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All sorts of degens are idolized
[–]Luchadorelibros 252 points253 points254 points 5 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
Wait...hold on.....she actually called THIS hard work?
Offset:”hey baby how you doing” Cardi:”long day at the office, had to rape and drug a few extra”
[–]DarkLorde117 72 points73 points74 points 5 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
Tbh it sounds like this very rarely had anything to do with rape. Just deceit and theft. Victims were willing to fuck which is how they were drawn in.
[–]Luchadorelibros 58 points59 points60 points 5 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
So many people were found guilty of rape because being drunk or under drugs means you legally can’t consent, them being drugged takes away their consent
[–]nonamefounder 25 points26 points27 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, but she drugged them and robed them, she never said anything about having sex while ui with them. If she did, then OK, but as far as I'm aware she never said anything about it.
[–]DarkLorde117 23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
In context, the story sounds like she would drug them AFTER they consented, not before.
Hell I'm not even sure she slept with all of them. After they were fucked up it would usually just be easier to take their stuff and leave immediately.
[–]champflame 28 points29 points30 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah, either way though she admitted to drugging people and robbing them.
[–]DarkLorde117 19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh it's absolutely criminal and she's 100% deserving of incredibly severe consequences, I'm just seeing a lot of people compare her to Cosby and others that don't really fit her MO in the slightest and it's a bit annoying.
[+]typicalstudentirl1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
Just to be clear if you consent to sex, male or female, and are drugged and unconscious/unaware of the sex happening, that is rape.
[–]DarkLorde117 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agreed, though possibly not according to the laws of the time and definitely not comparable to the severity of Cosby's crimes.
The only grievance I have is this insistence that Cardi's crimes aren't just seen to stand on their own horrors and instead are seen as some political scandal.
[+]ThePigmanAgain -6 points-5 points-4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Is that in the law now?
[–]Luchadorelibros 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.capitalxtra.com/artists/cardi-b/news/speaks-out-victim-kevin-smith-drugged-robbed/
[+]DarkLorde117 -11 points-10 points-9 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Robbery aside, nothing Smith did implies lack or withdrawal of consent.
I'm not saying Cardi B isn't a terrible person who deserves whatever misfortune comes her way, but there are many courts that would not consider that to be rape, male or female. It seems pretty ridiculous for us to constantly talk shit about premature judgement of men's crimes and then do the exact same thing when it's a women under fire
[–]Luchadorelibros 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
He blacked out bro, legally even if he consented before he can no longer consent.
[+]skysinsane -8 points-7 points-6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yes, but that law is stupid
[+]DarkLorde117 -10 points-9 points-8 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Speaking legally, requirements for constant consent throughout sex weren't in law back then iirc.
[–]Luchadorelibros 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I honestly give up, you say if drugging and sex was involved it’d be bad and when I show you you’re still saying it’s not as bad as I’m saying it is even though it is.
[–]antilopes 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There has always been a requirement for constant consent throughout sex in every jurisdiction I know of. There has never been any such thing as giving consent for the future. In jurisdictions where you are not responsible for having reasonable reason for your belief in consent this has not made a practical difference - you could just say you hadn't heard any different since the initial lack of resistance to your initiating.
I imagine you are thinking of e.g. Canadian law, where affirmative consent is required. The parties are held responsible for having reasonable grounds for their belief consent exists, lack of "no" is not enough. A test case found prior consent (at the beginning of sex) was not adequate to establish consent all through - you are expected to communicate like a normal human. Maybe look up from your phone occasionally while screwing and see if your partner is still conscious and responding positively.
I will never visit Canada because that law would wreck my concentration during sex. When I find the right porn for a bit of screwing I don't want to take my eyes off my phone, my partner can ring me if she needs to get my attention.
Anyway, an incidental effect of that law is in Canada agreeing to sex while asleep is definitely not legally adequate for consent. Not that it stops couples who like that.
[–]electricalnoise 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I feel like you're assuming there was any sex had at all.
[–]Luchadorelibros 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I posted a link to an article somewhere in these other comments I’ll find it later but it’s one of her victims who cane out and he blacked out to her twerking on him and woke up to a used condom, his money and iPod gone. Therefore I assume sex was had
[–]RacinRandy83x 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They didn’t have sex
[–]ThePigmanAgain 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They were looking to get laid BEFORE the drugging.
[–]v3r1 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No but it can have a lot to deal with attempts of murder. You can't just drug people to the point they are asleep because they might die. And I bet she killed people like this. Some dude already high as fuck and she just gives him a shitload of anything else and leaves the room while he dies of an overdose. The chance of this having happened is huge.
[–]Smaskifa 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Who said she raped anyone?
[–]v573v 68 points69 points70 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Where’s the ‘consent police’ to lecture women everywhere about consent while they pretend this behaviour is typical of females? Oh... they’re too busy applauding her... I see...
[–]BlairResignationJam_ 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
Who’s applauding her?? I’ve seen nothing but condemnation, though I’m sure some of her fans will defend her.
Sadly people who like musicians often ignore it when they’re criminals, just look at Chris Brown.
[–]elliphant2722 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It’s the fact that no one will remember this in a week
[–]spiderman1993 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The sad truth
[–]antilopes -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Can you find a single instance of any authorised consent policeperson applauding her?
[–]v573v 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Great point! They have lots of free time to get these programs up and running don’t they? Can you direct me to the latest news article implying that this is typical of women and that women need to learn consent so that they aren’t prone to engage in this behaviour?
[–]CAgovernor 375 points376 points377 points 5 years ago (52 children) | Copy Link
Nothing will happen to her. Why? Here: She is a woman. She is black. She is famous. She is a liberal.
[–]IdiotKnight 186 points187 points188 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Ding ding ding. Hit the nail on the head. However, now you and I are both racist and sexist for saying it. Same way criticism of Israel's human rights issues makes you anti-semitic.
[–]pardonmeimdrunk 37 points38 points39 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Ding
[–]9gag-is-dank 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]MrB0mbastic 14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]Caragorpuppy 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Transmat firing!
[–]bafolennis 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Aling
[+]GenkiMain -10 points-9 points-8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hit
[+]NiceIce1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Funny how that works. The leading cause of antisemitism seems to be semitism.
[–]AsaAkiraBBCBallsDeep 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yin yang, friend
[–][deleted] 30 points31 points32 points 5 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
But Cosby was black, liberal, and famous, yet he still got convicted man. Only difference here is that she confessed and shes Latina, but maybe justice will prevail
[–]evan19994 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Why are Latinas allowed to say nigga?
[–]Hannyu 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because they're not white basically.
[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Cause the word nigga is just word a man, I dont care who says it, as long as it doesn't say it in malintent they it's cool with me
[–]jameswalker43 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s not easy to argue from behind the screens and get an understanding of the other when we don’t see each other, but calling ourselves nigga might create an additional barrier to that.
[–]grimview 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Because Latino Conquistadors started the slave trade & "negro" means black in Spanish.
[–]shegotmass 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The Alantic slave trade was started by Islam used black africans to capture slaves which included millions of Europeans being being enslaved themselves stolen out of their own ethnic countries. The American navy actually ended the barbary slave trade by destroying their fleets with Europeans and Americans being victims in the millions of black and arab Islamic slavers.
The American slave owners were mostly jewish, or American Indian.
[–]grimview 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not far enough back, lets take this to fish humans evolved from. Female Angler fish enslave male Angler as parasites & sperm donors as female juices literally dissolve the head of the Male making it permanent prisoner.
[–]33a5t 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
https://i.imgur.com/XZPTUoQ.jpg
[–]JackRabbit- -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So the original oppressors get to use it but the adopters can’t? 🤔
[–]Manny87406 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've seen black people upset just when white people say it. Mexicans say it quite often
[–]ThePigmanAgain 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Cosby's a liberal? I doubt it. He's a MAN so he got done. Amy Schumer actually admitted to sexual assault and nobody cares.
[–]SuperSulf -5 points-4 points-3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The fact that you're trying to equate those two is insane. That's like telling me Ted Bundy is the same as some rapper who "admitted" to killing someone in a song.
[–]ThePigmanAgain 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Find me a male comic who admitted to rape and still has his career, then.
[–]electricalnoise 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Musician, actor, CEO, anything where your public image matters even a little bit. Hell, admitted rapists wouldn't exactly be welcomed as garbage collectors.
But if you're a woman it either makes for a cute story to tell on ratio shows around the country or a harrowing tale of a woman just doing what she had to to survive and become a celebrity.
[–]Jay_x_Playboy 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah not sure what race or politics has to do with it, it’s pretty clear a case of man vs. woman.
[–]tenchineuro -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
it’s pretty clear a case of a woman vs. womean.
FTFY.
[–]morphoyle 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He was convicted many years later. His status allowed him to escape justice for decades.
[–]grimview -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
liberal? Cosby raised the standard of fathers & family. Cosby dared to criticize liberals, so they framed him with false accusations.
[–]SuperSulf 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Defending a serial rapist? Wow
[–]techtesh 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Man can you separate the art from the artist...
He is talking about the effect of his show and not his sexuality
[–]grimview -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Oh, your one of those "believe all women" types. I've had random people conspire to make false assassination against me. Maybe one day you'll have the privilage of knowing what it feels like to be framed and condemned to stave to death on the streets.
[–]SpellCheck_Privilege 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
privilage
Check your privilege.
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[–]Venomrod -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She is a woman
[–]drifter100 17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
but you also need an accuser, which there isn't any. If one of these guys want to come forth then so be it.
[–]electricalnoise 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
For legal action. For shit talk reasons I'm pretty ok with taking her word for it. She's told the world what kind of person she is.
[–]DavidRandom 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nothing will happen to her. Why?: Because nobody has come forward accusing her of a crime.
Seriously, how do you think someone can be convicted of a crime when there are no known victims?
[–]Hifen 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Cosby was black, liberal and famous though, like why do those three points matter?
[–]CAgovernor 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
He isn't a woman (I don't hate women FYI). However, most people know that justice regarding sexual crimes is simply stacked against men. E.g: Few years ago in San Diego a female teacher got 3 years probation & no registration as sex offender, for having sex with several minor students. About 11 months later, a male teacher got 17 years in prison + registration for the exact same crime.
[–]Hifen 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yeah, my point, 1 of your 4 points mattered, being black, liberal and famous don't relate here.
[–]BP_Ray -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
She is black
Since when has being Black given you privileges? Regardless, she's Latina, but if she were White she'd be covered up for her shit even more.
[–]Hannyu 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Ask Jussie Smollett? Seems to be working out for him getting all charges dropped for faking a hate crime
[–]BP_Ray 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Ah yes, I forgot that being a Black man is the best combination for low sentencing in the American justice system!
[–]Hannyu 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
When combined with being another minority (LGBT) it helps, more so when you're high ststus and wealthy. If he got found guilty there would have been outcry about racist and lgbt-phobe and such and so on.
[–]antilopes 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Instead there is a global outcry of WTF because nobody can understand why a wealthy high status gay black man could have been charged with a crime in the first place, but since he was and pleaded guilty his right to conviction should have been respected. Courts need to get woke NOW!
I heard black men are not allowed in jail because there are no other black men in there and they would be too lonely.
[–]ThePigmanAgain 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Since when has being Black given you privileges?
In certain quarters it has given you privileges for quite a few years now, especially when it's coupled with femaleness.
[–]BP_Ray -4 points-3 points-2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This subreddit is so stupid, why am I here? You couldn't even get the race of Cardi B right you idiots.
[–]ThePigmanAgain 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"I don’t got to tell you that I’m black. I expect you to know it,"
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/cardi-b-opens-up-to-zendaya-about-her-cultural-identity
PS
Latino is not a race. Some are lily white, others pitch black, most are in-between.
Educational article, thanks. She comes across as thick though, publicly identifying as Latina then after criticism trying to rewrite history and have everybody magically know she identifies as black now.
[–]jbuk1 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What is liberal about drugging and robbing people?
Americans seem very confused about what that word actually means.
'Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on liberty and equal rights.[1][2][3] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but they generally support limited government, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), capitalism (free markets), democracy, secularism, gender equality, racial equality, internationalism), freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom of religion."
[–]tenchineuro 70 points71 points72 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Will society forgive Cosby if his gender switches?
It worked for <ahem> Chelsea Manning.
[–]Beardie-Boi-420 23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Chelsea Manning
[–]supamario132 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
It definitely didn't hurt but the media emphasis on Wikileaks during Arab Spring garnered a lot of support for Bradley Manning before any gender debate got involved.
My theory is she only made the switch to ride Snowden's public approval coattails. America was all about that shit in 2013
[–]BioStenTriumf 32 points33 points34 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She says she felt it was needed for her suvival, I mean Bill probably should argue he felt his actions were necessary aswell seem to work as a defence.
[–]Bluelabel 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Where is the original quote where she said this?
[–]jonnytechno 21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
It's a video, the one I saw seems to be taken down, this one is not the best image quality but you can see & hear her adequately
https://youtu.be/D8Ayf3125Y4
Edit: larger red on this one
https://youtu.be/e2VJnQwlxxY
[–]GinormousNut 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why does she have to be so fucking loud on god
[–]wetvegan 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
on jah
[–]GinormousNut 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sorry on jah
[–]electricalnoise 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lol oh my fucking god.
She "had to" Rob guys to get by instead of getting a fucking job like an adult. Totally respectable. I can't see why anyone has a problem with her.
What a fucking cunt.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is the new-branded female role-model for intersectional feminism.
Brace yourself.
[–]FH-7497 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Main difference is THERE IS NO ONE ACCUSING HER
[–]reddithashaters 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Agreed. Its a stigma and embarrassment with a man especially since she was a stripper. Not to mention it took decades before women came forward against cosby.
[–]FH-7497 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol right? It takes more than hypothetical victims to have a criminal case
[–]tmone 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes there is
believe the victim:
“I was in New York about five years ago training and my trainer suggested we go to a strip club. Normally, I would’ve turned him down but this time I decided to go. So, boom, we go to the strip club and I meet Cardi, I’m feeling her and convinced her to come back to the room with me to have a drink. I’d been drinking already so I had to piss, I slid to the bathroom and came back and finished off my drink. Last thing I remembered was she was twerking on me, music blasting and that was it. The next morning, I saw a used condom on the floor and then I noticed all the cash I had which was about $850, my Louis Vuitton belt and my iPod touch was missing. I tried calling her several times but i soon realized she gave me a google voice number. I know she did it but I couldn’t prove it so I never went to file charges mainly because I did not want my fiancée at the time to know what had happened so I took my ‘L’. I can’t lie, it was certainly traumatizing and as a man, you never want to admit you were taken advantage of. No man wants to say #MeToo” says Smith.
[–]BloodRedCobra 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A confession is legal evidence, and in case of felony, enough to prop a charge via state.
She publucly admitted to the acts, which counts as a confession of guilt.
[–]peteyd2012 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Give it time.
[–]FH-7497 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If credible victims come forward: REPARATIONS if outside of legal limit. They would settle out of court anyway. If I was her drug rob victim I’d way rather get paid now then see her in jail.
[–]pipsname 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Didn't Cosby have accusers?
[–]JakeDC 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Yes. Several. For most, the statute of limitations had expired so they were not part of the recent case.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
At this point, if nothing comes legally (which is doubtful), I want to see her demonized by the public (which she deserves). Sadly, even that is doubtful.
[–]tenchineuro 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Well, CA has removed the statute of limitations on rape cases.
[–]JakeDC 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Retroactively?
[–]tenchineuro 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I was trying to work through that, seems to me that they can now bring a case to trial that was previously beyond the statute of limitations.
[–]JakeDC 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
I am not an expert in criminal or constitutional law, but I don't think that is Constitutional.
[–]tenchineuro 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Looking closer, they appear to have taken that into account.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/26/us/golden-state-killer-statute-limitations-trnd/index.html
However, that change likely will not impact the Golden State Killer -- believed to have committed 12 murders and about 50 rapes in the 1970s and 1980s -- because it does not apply retroactively, according to Laurie Levenson, a professor of law at Loyola Law School. In other words, the revised law applies only to crimes committed after January 1, 2017, and offenses for which the statute of limitations had not expired by that date.
[–]JakeDC 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That makes more sense.
[–]tenchineuro 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The removal of the statute of limitations is not retroactive, it only applies to rapes that happened after the law was enacted. The article provides context for the paragraph I included, if needed. But the last sentence says it all.
[–]Luchadorelibros 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Can’t confirm but I heard so far one victim stepped forward
[–]Smaskifa 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He also raped people. I feel like that alone makes this post ridiculous.
[–]giantdwarf111 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You do have a point but bill Cosby had people come out and accuse him of rape.
[–]tmone 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So does she.
[–]PossiblyExcellent 19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
The case is completely different from Cosby. Robbery/theft (depending how the local statute is written, given that she claims to have used ~drugs but not force) is a less serious crime than rape. Acting like they're the same thing trivializes the experience of rape survivors.
Also criminal cases can't be prosecuted without any victims coming forward (if there even are any in this case, she may have just been talking tough, who knows). If the case is winnable it almost certainly will be brought, but don't be surprised if the punishment for this less serious crime is lower than the punishment for Cosby's very serious crime.
[–]kireol -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
You just trivialized robbery and theft victims.
Don't assume either crime is less than the other unless you've gone through them.
Wrong is wrong. Dont make excuses for her
[–]_WaldoFindsYou_ 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Nobody is making excuses for her. However making comparisons to a convicted serial rapist and a woman who claimed (to my knowledge nobody has stood up and make accusations saying they are a victim) to have drugged and robbed some men just makes our case look bad and makes us look bad. People will look at us and say "Seriously?"
[–]RedKindredSwiftly 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
She also raped the men she drugged and robbed. Don’t forget that part.
[–]_WaldoFindsYou_ 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Is there proof? All I've tbh is here say but please if there is some article with a reputable source link me to it that'll be awesome
[–]electricalnoise -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why are we assuming she actually had sex with them? Sex clearly wasn't her goal.
[–]RedKindredSwiftly 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sex isn’t the goal of most rapists. It’s power and control.
[+]kireol -6 points-5 points-4 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
However making comparisons to a convicted serial rapist and a woman who claimed (to my knowledge nobody has stood up and make accusations saying they are a victim) to have drugged and robbed some men just makes our case look bad and makes us look bad. People will look at us and say "Seriously?"
Why are you saying this here? To me? I think you may be posting in the wrong spot. Because none of that had anything to do with what I said
[–]_WaldoFindsYou_ 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I was more making a general statement on the post and the general consensus of the comment section by hijacking my comment to you. If you find that to be of nuisance that I added to my comment then I'll delete it.
[–]kireol 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Knowing that, it's fine.
But please understand, when you use the word however, you are now saying that stuff directly to me, as it's a word meaning a contradiction to things previously said. So, your words literally say you were directing that point to go to me.
[–]RedKindredSwiftly 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Discussion is good. Silencing debate is what feminists and nazis do.
I disagree with that poster, but they’re still entitled to their opinion.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Lol this sub is fucking insane. You people honesty think rape and theft are the same thing? The fuck happened to you to twist your mind so badly?
[–]kireol 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
unconscious rape and unconscious robbery ends up much the same. You dont feel safe around anyone.
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
No, getting robbed and getting raped do not "end up much the same" you psychopath.
[–]kireol 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for NOT talking about the same thing I am, you sociopath.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"Rape and theft have the same result and if you disagree you're incapable of having feelings!"
- Actual psychopath saying rape and theft "end up much the same"
Still having reading problems? RIF
[–]antilopes -4 points-3 points-2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The outrage of victims is a hell of a drug.
[–]tmone 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She bill cosbyd this dude.
[–]tomowudi 26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
Cosby is a serial rapist.
Cardi B is a thief.
I hope, if she DID actually do this to someone, that they press charges against her, etc.
But Bill Cosby had charges pressed against him. He was taken to court. He had evidence against him, and that's why he went to jail. Because the evidence that he is a serial rapist was beyond a reasonable doubt.
Who would press charges against her? Who is claiming to be a victim of Cardi B? What evidence does any law enforcement agency have that could not be easily discounted as "lies for publicity" by a half-way decent lawyer?
Cardi B is a thief. She's a shitty person for drugging and robbing people.
Bill Cosby is a serial rapist. He's a shitty person for drugging and raping people.
This is a dumb comparison. I do not get the point of this comparison. These people and their circumstances are not alike. The only thing that is similar is that they drugged their victims. Every other detail is completely different.
[–]Jodie_Jo 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
thats also assuming cardi isnt bullshitting for clout
Even if she is, i feel like it's safe to take her word for it. If Daniel Tosh came out saying he literally raped women because that was what he felt he "had to do to survive", we all know actual evidence wouldn't matter. He'd be destroyed over it.
[–]tenchineuro 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
He had evidence against him, and that's why he went to jail.
Really? What was the evidence?
[–]tomowudi 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I hate stupid gotcha questions like this.
What is the evidence on Cardi B? Don't have any? Must be the same thing, hur hur.
There was a trial. There are like, 20, 30 different victims. Many of those victims had no reason to lie. Whatever evidence he was convicted on is in court filings. If you want to personally investigate the entire trial because you think Bill Cosby was railroaded, you should start there.
But I have no reason to believe that Cosby didn't have the best legal defense money could by in a court that was very much aware that any impropriety would be highlighted and broadcasted to the public as part of his PR and legal strategy.
So, until I hear of a VERY compelling reason to think otherwise, it seems clear that he was held to acceptable legal standards for the sentence he got. Certainly, I have no reason to believe that every single alleged victim was lying in his small army of accusers.
[–]tenchineuro -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Regardless of whether he was guilty or not, the only 'evidence' was the women's accusations, that is, he was convicted on the unsupported word of his accusers. Either admit that this is factual or post whatever evidence you claim convicted him and not some vague rambling about what you believe or refuse to believe.
[–]tomowudi 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Or option C - ignore your stupid gotcha ultimatum because if you really think that heresay is the only reason he got convicted, your opinion on the matter is not worth my time.
So, either provide evidence that hearsay is the only evidence used to support a conviction or enjoy arguing with yourself and your hand, as I assume you are used to that sort of company.
Or option C - ignore your stupid gotcha ultimatum because if you really think that heresay is the only reason he got convicted, your opinion on the matter is not worth my time. So, either provide evidence that hearsay is the only evidence used to support a conviction or enjoy arguing with yourself and your hand, as I assume you are used to that sort of company.
OK, you got nothing.
[–]LucasBlackwell 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Testimony is evidence, you're arguing with the dictionary at this point.
[–]tenchineuro 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
No, it is not, it's what evidence is needed to substantiate. Saying something is so is not evidence that it is so, it's just a claim.
[–]LucasBlackwell 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Wrong. That's proof.
1a : an outward sign : indication b : something that furnishes proof : testimony specifically : something legally submitted to a tribunal to ascertain the truth of a matter
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/evidence
The complaint is not evidence, evidence is needed substantiate the claim. And there is no proof outside of mathematics, the standards of law are of probability.
[–]LucasBlackwell 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That definition literally says testimony is evidence. You're arguing with a dictionary.
Good luck practicing law from that dictionary.
[–]tmone 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
This is why people coming in from all are making fools of themselves. This sub has provided the victims version. Spoiler alert, he was raped.
[–]tomowudi -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I am not a "believe all victims without question," advocate. I am a "trust but verify," advocate.
So... We don't know that the condom was used for sex with him, sex with someone else while he was passed out, or with some semen like substance in the condom to make the dude feel like he got something for his troubles.
We just don't know.
Heck, I don't even know if you made this up yourself, there's no citation, and I don't care about any of this enough to Google it.
And yes, if this is true, this sucks for him and he should be supported.
It would be great if he reported it.
He didn't.
He didn't because he was trying to cheat on his fiancee, felt he succeeded, but he also felt he got screwed in more ways than one and didn't want his fiancee to find out.
Look at the evening described by changing one detail - he didn't get drugged.
Would he have still fucked her?
Yup.
Could she have stolen his shit while he was in a sex coma?
Sure could.
Would he have reported it to the police?
Nope.
To me it sounds like what he was ashamed of was getting drugged and robbed. Not the "rape". There is no reason to believe that at some point after being invited up to his room for drinks, that after she was done twerking on him that he was suddenly going to withdraw consent.
Possible?
Sure.
Rape? A bit rapey if it did happen. We're still a far cry from 20 to 30 victims.
Still doesn't change the fact that if no one pressses charges, this is a stupid comparison to make with Bill Cosby.
[–]tmone 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
its exactly what cosby did. drug and take advantage of the victims.
https://i.redd.it/okg485wk3uo21.jpg
tell me, did you give the same benefit of doubt to cosby? im curious.
[–]tomowudi -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
In the beginning I absolutely did.
When I heard about the first 4 or 5 victims, I was all... "A famous black dude getting accused of rape? Yup... could totally be bullshit."
But then another victim came forward.
And another.
By victim 12, with some of them being people who did not need money or fame... continued skepticism seemed unreasonable.
I stopped paying attention around victim 20.
And thanks for the screenshot, now we're getting somewhere.
I believe him. No reason to lie about his account.
Doesn't mean it wasn't a fake used condom, etc. But whether he was raped or not, the uncertainty of that is horrible in and of itself.
But we don't actually know he was raped. His story didn't talk about how he pissed sideways, etc. Just what looked like a "used" condom and him waking up confused.
And, he never pressed charges. So, there is no reason for the OP to make sense. My original reaction still stands, but I will "happily" acknowledge that it's certainly possible rape is amongst the charges she could be prosecuted for if someone actually presses charges against her.
Until that happens, and until we see 20+ victims with the same story, comparing this to Cosby is still bullshit. Still awful in it's own right though. Plenty to be outraged about without making stupid comparisons.
[–]tmone 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I would agree except for the fact that talks of criminality and lawyers getting involved happened after the first victim came forward. The media had already latched their judgment onto him.
Good for you for bring consistent.
[–]tomowudi -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I separate what the public does from what the legal processes are, and what the media does.
Idiots make up about 20% of every group. And idiots tend to be the most outspoken members of those groups. And people in general are not really great at having nuanced ideas about the groups they don't belong to. And the media today relies on the conflict that emerges from that lack of nuance between groups, which is catalyzed by the idiots of both groups, to make money.
You want to change the media, you have to change either how they make money or the public needs to stop financially supporting media that doesn't adhere to journalistic standards.
I have my ideas about how to change how publishing media is monetized, so that it is incentivized by making content useful and true. But it would take a lot of money for me to even get that off the ground.
And you can't really change human nature. Asking people to stop consuming bad journalism is like getting people to not buy fast food, cigarettes, and alcohol. Good fucking luck.
I don't see the point in blame. We are all short-sighted by virtue of humanity's common limitations. We are all going to be motivated by self interest. And we are all going to miss out on the bigger picture more often than not.
The only thing we can do is focus more on common ground than differences, because frankly, focusing on common ground is the first step in cooperation, and focusing on differences is inherently divisive.
But you still need to acknowledge the differences. But if you don't FIRST establish common ground, that's where shit gets fucked up.
You know why scientific publications, in general, are less controversial than even high quality reporting?
Because academics are required to define their terms at the beginning of whatever they are publishing. Those definitions establish common ground between the writer and the reader.
We don't do that anywhere else as a formal process, and it shows.
[–]sotoh333 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Wait. Didn't one drug and rape people, and one drug and steal from people? They're both crappy humans, but not equally so by a margin of rape. Did I miss the rape part?
[–]Luchadorelibros 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
When someone is drugged they legally cannot consent, so it’s legally rape, say you find a girl at the bar and both agree to have sex, but then you feel funny and find out she drugged you. Would you still want to continue? you can’t change your mind because you’re too drugged up, therefore you legally can’t consent
[–]sotoh333 14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
She's a terrible human who is glorifying drugging robberies like it was just street smarts, but I don't see anything citing sex was involved.
[–]Luchadorelibros -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
She said she took men to the hotel room for sex, drugged them and robbed them. She never stated she didn’t fuck them, many people also took it like I did in terms of sex was involved
[+]No1nole -8 points-7 points-6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Probably because you’re jealous. Sex is nowhere in there. This is r/incels-light.
Yes, what she did was horrible! I’ve never been a female stripper with drunk, horny dudes trying to fuck me. Guys can almost always physically control women if they want.
My guess is: guys get drunk, wild, aggressive and promise a lot. She’s uncomfortable and she shuts it down. Stealing, totally off limits.
[–]Luchadorelibros 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok you and I clearly differ on this matter but I am in no way jealous. That is a bold and far fetched assumption. I assumed sex was involved but i agree that even without sex what she did was wrong, with sex= even wringer
I also found this article implying they had sex. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.capitalxtra.com/artists/cardi-b/news/speaks-out-victim-kevin-smith-drugged-robbed/
[+]Froghat_Vendor1 points 5 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Oh shit, Bill was only robbing those women? Man, that's a relief. I thought he was fucking them.
[–]tmone 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just like cardi b
[–]Metroid545 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We would have to have the guys she robbed step up and not accept some shush money.
I seriously doubt they will
[–]Mr7FootCock 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Throw that gutter rat trash in jail
[–]MissAnthropoid 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Oh did Cosby just rob his victims?
[–]DJ-Roukan 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Used condom found in the room when the victim woke up.
[–]Hifen 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
To play devils advocate here, there's a couple key differences:
1) Drugging someone to rob them and drugging to rape someone are on two completley seperate levels on reprehensible. Lots of hip hop stars gloat about a history of theft, drug sales and minor crimes. You can't group that with rape.
2) and this is the important one, Cosby got in trouble when accusations were made against him. I would expect things to be different right now if one of those guys came forward. "Self admiting" to something, very rarely has consequences when there's no identified victim.
[–]electricalnoise 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Can we take them for their word and believe that they're shitty people? Even if they're lying, they're lying about being shitty people. This is what they aspire to and what they put out for others to see as a viable path.
[–]Hifen 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Right, but thats not the standard we are discussing here, we are comparing her to Cosby.
Cosby was't just considered to be a shitty person. There were consequences to him, and this post insinuates those consequences should extend to her.
[–]reluctanttimebobby 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Okay if Bill Cosby simply drugged women it might be similar. But maybe we should remember the part where her raped them too.
A male has come forward claiming sexual abuse, seeing her grinding ontop of him as he was dazed from the drug, finding a used condom in the room when he woke up. You can rape an unconscious male.
When it happens to women, we call it "date rape", but any rape is rape.
[–]Violetendencies 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Is this for real? Raping people is usually more frowned upon than robbing. I never thought that’d actually have to be said.
[–]ThePigmanAgain 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Cosby is a rapist, Crappy is just a thief. People who compare the two are literally retarded.
[–]Razzmatazz_Buckshank 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's hard to take this movement seriously when you see retarded shit like this thread on the front page.
[–]wheremypp 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You know for sure that people are going to feel so sorry for her financial struggles or some shit. This strong independant woman had so many hardships living the life she did, what a hero for coming out and saying this :(:(:(:(:(
[–]Azure_Triedge 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To be fair she didn’t rape these men. Not defending her actions and she 100% needs to be punished for them but it’s not smart to compare her to Bill Cosby.
[–]gryphonXII 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
She didn't rape anybody and she isn't held highly in society. Cosby was given a entire life of just being famous, wholesome and rich. Nobody is pretending Cardi B didn't pull some shit in her past
[–]tmone 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yes she did.
[–]gryphonXII -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Source?
[–]bhullj11 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Certain feminists are already defending her saying that the victims deserved it because they were willing to pay for sex (which is illegal). I’m not surprised.
[–]qwhipwhitley 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The most shocking part of this for me is that there was someone who actually wanted to f*ck her.
[–]zerozingzing 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Which man will publicly admit that he got robbed while buying pussy?
[–]danimalplanimal 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
in a freakin heartbeat
[–]GreasyPeter 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Did she actually say this?
[–]VictorianLibra22 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What a trashy pig! I'm sure the media and justice system will give her a pass 😡
[–]Nick_Dice 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tardy B
[–]stupid_comment_above 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
hoodrats gonna do hood shit🤷♂️
[–]falsekoala 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
At first glance I thought the title of this thread was “...if Crosby switched genders.”
But I think the proper response to the Cosby/Cardi B questions is that they’re both scumbags who should be facing consequences.
[–]giantdwarf111 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That sound horrible but what I meant to say was there was evidence in the case.
[–]KilltheK -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'd be a lot less upset if women would just admit that they have special privileges in society. I wouldn't like it but could say that at least they were being honest. But no, they want to be elitist while claiming oppression. Can't have it both ways, unless you're a woman I guess.
[–]shegotmass 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Its time for a #mentoo movement.
[–]northern_crypto 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There should be a #survivingamyschumer tag
[–]thrazefister 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Haha will there be legal action against a black female? In this society? Ahahahahahah
[–]crnext 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All I got to say is FUCK all famous people and especially disregard the female ones FIRST.
We as society treat fame and fortune like royalty.
Fuck that shit. Now can we please recovery our attention to REGULAR men's rights activism?
This fuckery is plenty skewed without the added element of famous bitches too.
[–]jenovajunkie -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Well one was rape, the other was robbery of material things. Instantly we place more emphasis on something related to a persons body, over something that takes time and use of a persons body to accumulate.
I think this is why a lot of men are becoming distant from women, women don't care about men at all.
Thanks feminism!
[–]antilopes 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link
Women understand the loss of stuff that "takes time and use of a persons body to accumulate". Women have bodies, do work, earn money, buy stuff, and get it stolen sometimes. They have relevant personal experience as a basis for empathy with men getting stuff stolen.
There is more. Women get to think about consent and physical autonomy more than men. Which is why women considering drugged theft would typically be able to empathise better than the men in this thread with how a man would feel waking up with his wallet gone. They would likely pick up two extra things:
[–]jenovajunkie 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Uhhhh, and that's different from drugging a girl how? You are not helping.
I'm trying to look at the differences in these two cases. What are trying to say?
If we could equate the two, then why are feminists not all over Cardi B like they where Bill Cosby. I don't get what you're trying to say.
[–]antilopes 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
The drugging is substantially similar and it disappointing that people here are not seeing that, getting distracted by the excitement of being able to do a "hey they do it too" with drugged rape regardless of that not actually being what happened.
Here is a very popular definition of feminism, the OED has something similar: Advocacy for women based on equal rights, in employment, in law and socially.
Note the advocacy for women part there. The plumber's union does not advocate for electricians although they may work together on common causes. When their interests are opposed they fight for their own member's interests.
It is not feminism's job to get excited about an individual man or woman doing something bad, unless their case illuminates a wider systemic gender issue that affects women. There are feminist issues involved in stripping, but since CardiB seems to have made enough money that she was free to make her own choices there isn't really much more for them to say about her.
[–]jenovajunkie 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Oh come on now, don't give me that, like feminism is so innocent; "all we want is equal rights". Sure sure.
Hahaha.
So why aren't you fighting for equal rights? Where you already have an upper hand (for example, in sentencing for the same crime) feminists stay quiet.
[–]antilopes 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Note the first clause in that definition: Advocating for women. Not trying to wage global war on all forms of inequality.
Equality is the grounds of the arguments feminists use when they advocate for women. General equality is not the reason for feminists to exist though.
Egalitarianism already exists as a broad philosophy, and people can put their energy toward promoting that if they want. I've seen people describe themselves as egalitarians but I'm unaware of what specific policy goals the movement is working on, apart from not being feminist.
Women don't have the "upper hand" in prison sentencing. It isn't a fight between men and women with a winning and losing team.
It is often said women get lighter sentences in general, or conversely men get longer ones. I'm in favour of shorter sentences so would like to see men's reduced. That is not a feminist issue, it is something men need to fight for.
[–]jenovajunkie 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Wow, okay, so now you know why feminists are hypocrites.
So you're only for the rights of women, whenever you feel you're being short changed. But everywhere else you think it's equal; thus not needing your attention, does that sound right?
[–]antilopes 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
No. The world is full of many kinds of inequality.
Feminism is concerned with women's interests, using protest about inequality as the method to fight for the changes that feminists think are important.
Not all people, women or even feminists fully agree on what those changes should be.
In recent years it has become common for feminists to claim a wider concern for equality and for men's issues. To me this looks like a very shallow two-faced bullshit reaction designed to deny a space for non-feminist men's movements. The shallowness is revealed whenever there is a conflict between feminist goals and men's interests.
Where did you get the expectation that feminists were going to fix men's issues for you? Was your father useless and your mother over-protective?
Sometimes I think the hatred for feminism we see on here is partly just envious rage that women are making stuff for themselves without even leaving a plate of leftovers for men. But really there are plenty of leftovers. Lots of MRA thinking is recycled from feminism.
[–]jenovajunkie 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Okay so the world is full of many types of inequality, are you know realizing this?
You seem to have this idea that feminism is one way and that all feminists portray it like this. MRA are just male feminists, MGTOW and even Incels are all by-products of feminisms different faces. Feminists are the jealous and emotionally charged hatred from what the think is unjust treatment.
Where do you think the saying that feminists want all the rights without the responsibility. Feminism was a political movement in the beginning, and still is largely a political movement.
I didn't get an expectation that they would fix it, but adding to those issues and dismissing a lot of our problems isn't fighting for women issues.
So which is it, feminism doesn't fight for mens issues, or in recent years claim a wider concern for equality and mens issues. Get your shit together.
[–]Throwawayhell1111 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You idiots.... SAYING YOU DID SOMETHING VS SOMEONE COMING FORWARD IS MUCH DIFFERENT.
IF SOMEONE COMES FORWARD THEN YES, SHE WILL BE INVESTIGATED.
IF NO ONE DOES, THEN NOTHING HAPPENS.
How hard is that to understand?
[–]DJ-Roukan -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
People have come forward.
Now don't you feel foolish? That is why one should never pontificate before they have the knowledge to even speak on a subject.
[–]Throwawayhell1111 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Completely different.
Cardi-b said something first, not multiple random people coming forward with the same story.
So before you "pontificate", make sure you know the differences.
[–]pknight19 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I agree with a lot of what this subreddit posts as a male but tbh guys are we really going to compare her to Bill Cosby? He fucking sexually assaulted women. I’m not saying she shouldn’t be held accountable. But theirs a huge difference between robbing someone and sexually assaulting them and I think we can all agree with that.
she allegedly (she admitted that she) had sex with men while they were drugged and unconscious then stole their shit and left. sexually assaulting is worse than sexually assaulting men? heck off
[–]Trajer -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why is she being compared to Cosby? I haven't read everything about the situation with Cardi B but it doesn't seem like she only went back to the hotel to drug and rob them, not have sex.
Rape > Robbery, so I'm not sure why she's compared to Cosby...
[–]Grizzly_treats 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
One guy she robbed said he found a used condom after he woke up from being drugged.
[–]AmanPunia420 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
RAPIST RAPIST AND RAPIST
[+]poisondonut -14 points-13 points-12 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
When did this sub turn into an alt right trump fest?
bunch of man children REEEEEEING and whatabouting. Pathetic.
Who the fuck said anything about at right or Trump here except for you?
"Ohh i don't agree with things being said in this sub, it MUST be all these fucking Trump supporters that I'm imagining here"
I'll probably be accused of being a Russian bot for not agreeing with you though LOL
man children
This honestly says more about you than it says about anyone else here.
[–]poisondonut -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wuh oh, Someone’s triggered.
[+]ImJustaBagofHammers -35 points-34 points-33 points 5 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
You ever wonder if articles about this kind of stuff are intentionally outrageous so that MRAs will complain about them and give them more traffic?
[–]tenchineuro 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
There's no link to an article in the screenshot above.
[–]Javerlin 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Dude chill out, he’s just a bag of hammers. Give him some slack
[–]tenchineuro 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hey man, when all you have is a bag of hammers, everything looks like a bag o' nails. Just sayin...
[+]ImJustaBagofHammers -16 points-15 points-14 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I know.
r/beatlejuicing
We can't even get linking to clickbait right, half the time it is just a photo of the headline.
[–]Fisher3309 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You ever wonder if people like you come in here and generalize all men into some kind of overreacting crazies just to sow dissent?
Just me? Ok
MRAs, not men. Normal men are not reading about drugging for robbery and deciding that must be rape.
r/gatekeeping
[–]KilltheK 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You ever wonder why people sub to subreddits just to talk shit?
[–]ImJustaBagofHammers 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am trying to help your cause.
[–]niners1000 -4 points-3 points-2 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
If you’re a woman you can do all the drugging and raping you want apparently. She will have little to no consequence for this.
[–]antilopes 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Where are you getting rape from? If she wanted to screw them I'd imagine she would want them conscious for that.
[–]niners1000 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Did she not say that?
[–]antilopes 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
She made no mention of screwing anyone who was beyond consent.
I don't know about whatever drugs she used but with alcohol nearly all men lose the capacity for an erection long before their ability to consent is lost. This is if she was telling the truth about screwing them (as opposed to regarding them with contempt and revulsion as is common for professional strippers).
[–]niners1000 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh I was under the impression that she would seduce them and be like yeah you wanna fuck me and then maybe after they screwed she drugged them idk how it all would’ve gone down ya know? I feel like if she did that then that’s kinda rapey
[–]orangeLILpumpkin -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Am I the only one who feels like these guys should have known what they were getting into going to a hotel room with Cardi B? #VictimBlaming
Reverse the genders in your statement and it will become clear....unless you are being sarcastic.
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Just to be clear if you consent to sex, male or female, and are drugged and unconscious/unaware of the sex happening, that is rape.
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