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[–]Fia_Fiasko_Furry 419 points420 points421 points 5 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
"you shouldnt be the reason why people laugh about an idea" is a good solgan for everything you do in life, really.
[–]TheMythof_Feminism 94 points95 points96 points 5 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
you shouldnt be the reason why people laugh about an idea
Oh that's a good line.
But remember that SJWs/feminists are so retarded that they are literally immune to parody. That's not a group of people you can use logic and reason against.
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[–]TheMythof_Feminism 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
You are not trying to educate entitled women.
Absolutely.
You are 100% correct.
You are warning everyone that this is what you can expect from women.
Kind of.... generally the point is to show to third party observes that putrid scoriae does not have the capacity for rational thought.
[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
scoriae
Good word, but doesn’t exist in the context of “garbage” in English AFAIK.
[–]TheMythof_Feminism -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
You are correct and I am well aware of that. It is a strange idiosyncracy that I find gives the phraseology some character.
Here is what I am talking about.
Translate escoria to english noun slag scum
Translate escoria to english
noun
I tend to use "scoriae" as an imprecise translation of "escoria" which means trash, garbage, impure, dirty, etc.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
It is a strange idiosyncracy that I find gives the phraseology some character.
I’d agree with you except it doesn’t have “character,” it’s cringy and it makes you sound elitist and douchey.
Seriously, that word is fedora-wearing-m’lady-nice-guy levels of cringy.
[–]TheMythof_Feminism 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
it’s cringy and it makes you sound elitist and douchey. that word is fedora-wearing-m’lady-nice-guy levels of cringy.
it’s cringy and it makes you sound elitist and douchey.
that word is fedora-wearing-m’lady-nice-guy levels of cringy.
SJW/feminist terimnology is what is "cringy" and makes you sound "douchey".
I may have listened to you if you weren't blatantly using twitter jargon which is the height of garbo being that twitter is an SJW/feminist hive. One could even say it indicates that you are true putrid scoriae of the lowest order.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
Wow, strong words there, bud. Talk about overreacting.
I was giving you some constructive criticism, but sounds like your problems run reaaaaal deep.
“Cringe” and “douchey” are standard words informal English. I’ll chalk the misunderstanding up to English not being your first language, but damn dude you sound like you’re in a dark fuckin place.
You’re not getting any more from me, trust me. Maybe consider seeing a therapist tho.
[–]TheMythof_Feminism -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You must have zero self-awareness. But it is not surprising given you are one of them.
“Cringe” and “douchey” are standard words informal English.
Not interested in your nonsense.
You use the lowest type of nomenclature yet heavily criticize me for using one stylized phrase. At best you're a high-end hypocrite, at worst you are absolute putrid scoriae and nothing more.
[–]The_Best_01 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I thought they were already a parody of themselves.
[–]TheStumblingWolf 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Feelz > realz
[+]Blutarg -7 points-6 points-5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Which is, paradoxically, a statement with no real words in it. But it feels good to those who write it.
[–]FlagrantWrongsDotCom 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link
To flip that a bit theres been a number of very popular products/companies that started as jokes (google fiber for example) as well as several people who are now billionaires including Elon Musk were laughed at/called crazy routinely including when meeting with investors. For example when he was first trying to buy rockets from people in russia, the russians he was meeting with laughed at him and also made fun of him because he didnt have any real money in their view at the time. Theres 7 bil people on the planet and theres entire countries of people with literally medically mentally retarded levels of IQ per human standards of intellect. Several of those countries are in Africa. Incredibly if you share african heritage you arent somehow inherently of that low of IQ nor is that inerently the case just because you are directly from any of those countries. Just because people share a biological trait with 3.5 bil people doesnt make them inherently qualified spokes persons for all 3.5 bil people and sometimes even the best people will make errors/do dumb things at points in their ~689,762 hrs of living. Elon Musk took a puff of weed and now hes having some of his work with the gov re evaluated despite it being legal in that state and the fact that obviously that puff suddenly made Elon Musk divulge all of the details of stuff hes working on per the video, an entirely unreliable person who uploaded all of their engineering schematics/private data immediately afterward and generically has turned into somebody that literally no investor/counterparty could have been expected to have understanding of him being with even a brief interest in the guy. Further theres clearly no stuff thats more blatant and demanding of actual inquiry like my ex gf/her father John C. Rogers who still somehow touts mil access despite immense thoroughly documented matters including harming LE/mil/civilians/etc that should be much more an issue of how many life sentences in gitmo hes serving let alone whether he should have access to sensitive people/resources. People are crazy and will say/do crazy things regardless of their factual relevance because humans biologically (per the crazies themselves) cant adhere to basic logic and facts. Observe.
[–]The_Best_01 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Dude, paragraphs. That wall of text is nearly incomprehensible.
Anyway, what was your point about Elon Musk?
[–]FlagrantWrongsDotCom 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I wrote it on mobile which doesnt display properly for me apologies. The overall point was basically theres a lot of nuance and context to things usually so absolute statements tend to be bad.
For starters Elon Musk was literally born in South Africa on Earth per the public data if you dont believe hes an android/alien/etc. Ill go out on a limb here and say he probably has just slightly above average IQ. Saying "All Africans are dumb" because of some of the IQ data would obviously be a dumb/false statement.
Additionally there was a headline about Elon Musks contracts with the gov/Air Force reviewing things because technically speaking it isnt allowed for somebody to use marijuana with sensitive projects in most contexts. While relevant to monitor, which if people are following their SOP its supposed to be constant anyway if hes doing anything of actual sensitivity, this is probably dumb because pretty much one puff on Joe Rogans show didnt suddenly change everything about the guy. You could pretty easily have figured stuff was a reasonable anticipate able event just reading like the first few pages of any number of biographies about him or some of what hes written/said publicly himself. I would hope the US mil managed to at least do that much due diligence for somebody who is suspected in practically every comment section of being an alien/android prior to awarding significant contracts or it would be quite a different mil than its supposed to be. Basically it just goes toward the fact that context might be something that needs to be relevant and despite the fact that this seems pretty obvious humans appear to be either entirely unwilling or unable to do so. Base human biological tendencies as theyre currently understood might be a contributing cause of that inhibited function.
Does it make sense to scrap everything to do with Elon Musk at the Air Force because of a puff of weed by itself? Seems unlikely. People in the DoD somehow maintain contact/business dealings with people like John C. Rogers etc who are blatantly guilty of substantially more high risk activities and actual crimes (internationally, domestic US, other countries, actually hurting mil/LE/civ/etc including americans). Maybe it would be a better use of resources to reassess those matters and deal with the blatant harm already occurring rather than Elon Musk if we could only pick one. I dont know all the details. Just on the face of it seems like theres things that should probably be much higher priority issues than taking a puff in a state where its legal and lord knows its taken far more than that to get people to lift a finger in several contexts that are causing immense obvious harm.
Just tried to rephrase largely as I wasnt sure what aspect you wanted addressed. Theres a few multilayered points in there.
[–]The_Best_01 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Ill go out on a limb here and say he probably has just slightly above average IQ
Just slightly? The guy's a borderline genius, even if he is wildly overrated.
or it would be quite a different mil than its supposed to be.
A different military? Like what?
Base human biological tendencies as theyre currently understood might be a contributing cause of that inhibited function.
Are you talking about cognitive biases? Is there a name for a bias where people ignore context?
Anyway, I just didn't get why you kept taking about Musk. I understand your point about context but what's that got to do with people laughing at you when you have an idea?
[–]FlagrantWrongsDotCom 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Certainly wouldnt be a functional military, anything capable of actually defending people. It would be more like a cardboard cut out that says MiLiTaRy in big letters that you just set a tremendous amount of money on fire behind.
Thats a good question. Generically yes. I dont think theres specifically one for all aspects of context but theres several that pertain to context and almost all of them cause issues with perception of or thinking in contexts.
I understand your point about context but what's that got to do with people laughing at you when you have an idea?
Basically that people laughed at him/called him crazy quite a lot initially similar to other billionaires to the extent it impacted his ability to even get rockets. Frankly some people still do but he has billions and has been able to accomplish some pretty cool stuff. That seems like a well publicized exception instance to the original comments quote.
[–]The_Best_01 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Any third world mil then, lol.
Ok, gotcha.
Basically that people laughed at him/called him crazy quite a lot initially similar to other billionaires to the extent it impacted his ability to even get rockets.
That didn't help him in any way though. There's not really much point mentioning him if the fact people laughed at him didn't help him and he became successful despite that, not because of it.
[–]FlagrantWrongsDotCom 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There's not really much point mentioning him if the fact people laughed at him didn't help him and he became successful despite that
Thats kind of the exact reason I did mention it. Getting laughed at/called crazy is pretty much a low to inverse signal of outcomes statistically in several significant contexts. Basically the original comments meaning doesnt necessarily have the follow through id guess the author intended.
Getting laughed at/called crazy is pretty much a low to inverse signal of outcomes statistically in several significant contexts.
Not necessarily, sometimes it's true but generally when people laugh at you, you're the one doing/saying something stupid. Cases like Musk are the rare exceptions to the rule. But I understand your point now.
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[–]Fisher3309 113 points114 points115 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What a horrid loser. If she really wants to set an example for her daughter she would accept the penalty humbly and fight hard to win not whine and cry about fairness and men. What an absolute victim complex
[–]captainp42 20 points21 points22 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I will forever root against her.
[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not available in my country. Those fucking men!!! ;_;
[–]CatManDontDo 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow I'd heard about it but I had no idea it was that bad
[+]50PercentLies -22 points-21 points-20 points 5 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
Uh no she isn't blaming men. Don't be sensitive.
She's saying the men say much worse and do much worse and don't get violations. The only legitimate violation she received was for breaking her racket. Ramos practically never gives coaching violations and Pascha was coaching more than Patrick was.
And like Pat said, Ramos chaired a bunch of Nadal finals and Nadal's coaches have full on conversations with him, and Ramos never gave him a violation.
So then she says something very mild to him and he throws a fit and gives her another.
She didn't handle herself as she should have, but her anger isn't unjustified.
Early in the same tournament a girl got a violation because her shirt was backwards. She just whipped it off and back on and she got a violation. She was wearing a sports bra.
[–]78stickup 28 points29 points30 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Your argument is garbage.
The same ump has given a Nadal time code violations and Novak a coaching violation. He's known as being strict. You can't catch everything, and no Rafa doesn't get coached on "every point." If something is blatant and the ump sees it (they're usually not looking at the box), they should call it; the fact that many other umps are more lenient is irrelevant.
This would be like getting caught for speeding then throwing a tantrum to the cop and saying "but I've seen other people speeding and they weren't pulled over!" Grow the fuck up.
Instead of acting like an adult and moving on Serena responded by smashing her racket and spending the next ten minutes berating the umpire, calling him a liar, a thief, a sexist, and threatening his career by saying he would never ref another game with her in it.
The only criticism warranted here is that the ump should probably have tossed her out of the game entirely for her disgraceful behavior. McEnroe was tossed out of the Aussie open for behaving in a similar fashion.
They're called rules you fucking imbecile. If you think the rule is unfair then change it; don't blame people for enforcing them.
The "sexism" angle is not only laughable, it's an obvious deflection from Serena's appalling display. It isn't surprising that Pat McEnroe is defending her -- the entire US media is so far up Serena's butt they're looking at polyps.
Only one article in the entire US media has portrayed the situation honestly -- it's shameful what US Open did to Naomi Osaka
[–]TheAngryBird03 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Holy shit I just read the article and that is truly shameful. Osaka should have been ecstatic and the interviewer basically said we didn’t want you to win lol
[–]Sekolah 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's rare I have praise for the new york post but that was an excellent article and totally right.
[–]50PercentLies -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When did Ramos give Nadal a coaching violation and how many obvious instances of coaching did it take in the same match for Ramos to give a violation?
Serena was reacting to bullshit being committed against her. Top tier bullshit that has affected her many times. She should have comported herself better, but that doesn't absolve Ramos of his bizarre anti-Serena bias.
The women/men point Serena made is that men and women aren't assessed equally by the WTA. That's a blatantly true statement.
On that note, there is no specific rule that says women can't change on the court but men can. Point me to that rule if I'm wrong. I just don't see how you can say the WTA and USTA have super strict, universally enforced rules when they obviously don't. There's a ton of subjectivity and Serena (as well as other players) has been the victim of that subjectivity many times.
But time violations against the slowest servers ever for which the serve clock was obviously implemented? Sharapova is the other player for which serve clocks are even considered necessary.
Djoko especially, but also many Russian players have had threatening verbal altercations with Ramos, and he didn't give violations. Serena barely engaged him in comparison, just called him a thief, and that warrants giving a crucial game to Osaka for free?
The "sexism" angle is not only laughable, it's an obvious deflection from Serena's appalling display. It isn't surprising that Pat McEnroe is defending her
You've pointed out one instance where Pat was tossed. He played hundreds of matches with the same behavior and was tossed once.
Ramos has personally chaired matches where the players have behaved the same or worse than Serena, and he didn't think their behavior warranted violations.
[–]RockOutToThis 14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
So no because men are worse she shouldn't have to hold herself to the standards of the game? No, that just means the men need to be penalized more.
[–]50PercentLies 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No players be penalized for having weak spats with the chair. It doesn't affect the game. No one gets hurt. Except your feelings I guess?
Even racket smashing violations are stupid. The court is fine. I'd rather have the players just dump some negative energy so that the match is better.
[–]JakeCameraAction-12 points 5 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
Yes, they do. But when the refs themselves don't penalize all these people but penalize this person for the same stuff those other people were doing, then it's obviously the ref at fault. You see this in all other sports too. Usually it's people who have gained a reputation for some reason (noted embellishers in hockey not getting obvious penalties against them called, for instance). So, when the refs set up this status quo and then hold one person to a different level, it makes sense the one person would speak out, no?
[–]ferociouskyle 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's the rules of the game. It was stated that this ref has a rep for being strict. Why does a woman (or a man) who is being forced to follow the rules of the game getting play in the media because of their "name" and "likeness"? And her arguments and sexist comments only push it further down a shit hole. If she only had an issue with the call/penalty and didn't take it much further then a majority of people wouldn't have an issue but she took it to another level.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Ramos did not "throw a fit".
[–]50PercentLies -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Goes into a flurry of giving violations that he never hands out, even for much less? Even when both coaches are doing the same thing and the players are paying no mind to it?
Maybe it was the heat but he broke his own standards. He broke a pattern of consistency, and I'm mind blown that other MRAs are siding with him just because Serena said the chairs treat women and men differently when they demonstrably do, especially Ramos.
The whole open was a shitshow. Not just with the weird sex bias that got highlighted in the heat but with the logistics of the tournament itself.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
He escalated the violations in proportion with Serena's abusive and disruptive behavior (which she has a track record of resorting to when losing).
Serena was trying to swing momentum back in her direction. What could Ramos have done differently? He gave her a warning for receiving coaching (the coach admitted Ramos was correct later), then he gave her a penalty for racquet abuse (very black and white rule) and then the final penalty for verbal abuse (she was screaming at him, and distracting her opponent for an extended period of time).
Ramos didn't just "take" a game from her. That was the next consequence in a series of already established penalties, which follow the rulebook to the letter.
Serena knew what would happen and chose the Nuclear Option because she hates losing and had a meltdown. She acted with zero class and is an embarrassment, regardless of how competitive she is.
Also Ramos has handed out multiple abuse and racquet violations in the past in grand slams (mostly to men) and has a reputation for calling out big names. Combine that with Serena's track record at the US Open in the past (threatening umps) none of this is surprising or unwarranted.
[–]50PercentLies -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
He gave her a warning
It was a violation. 'Warning' outside of tennis implies it has no specific consequence. But it was a violation which precipitated the point loss when she broke her racket. And referring to Patrick's interview that you saw too, those violations are bullshit. They're a relic from a time when English sensibilities were very important.
the coach admitted Ramos was correct later
Yeah and Pascha was doing the same stuff as Patrick. Vague gesturing. The violations are meant to protect the integrity of the sport. Ramos is going to have to justify that he thought Patrick was affecting Serena's play in a notably conspiratorial way. He isn't consistent. He targeted Serena with the coaching violation which is why that specific violation was bullshit. The rest precipitated from that.
and has a reputation for calling out big names
Right. He's not consistent. He targets players.
The sexism comes into play when Ramos gives passes to men for altercations that were more voalatile than Serena's.
This might undermine my position to point out that I've already said yeah, Serena needed to act with more dignity. But she's a recent mother and she has had a lot of issues related to that and reddit is not giving Serena the leeway that men have been given. I mean even Kyrgios has threatened staff in the Davis circuit and people just let it go because it's a competitor and he's not gonna murder anybody.
Ramos is. Not. Consistent with his rulings. Serena is taking a feminist position but as a tennis fan I'm just taking a position that I want consistency from the org. If coaches need to be still as ice then fine. If players can't badger the chiars then fine. But it should be implemented across the board not suddenly in a final.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Name one sport where refs are consistent and where competitors don't disagree with their calls. I disagree with most of your points.
Big names and big egos (like Serena) left unchecked can use their popularity and force of personality to gain unfair advantage. Which is what Serena was trying to do (and has REPEATEDLY done in the past) when it became clear she was likely going to lose. She has a track record of this.
Also Patrick was clearly motioning for her to push up to the net, which she did and won multiple subsequent points. Ramos saw Patrick and didn't see Pascha. Doesn't mean he was out of line by enforcing an existing rule.
I can't think of any male altercations in a Grand Slam Finals in recent memory that come anywhere close to what Serena did. There is no comparison. She knew exactly what the consequences would be and kept pushing. What if Ramos did nothing? How would that have looked?
I think the real answer is changing rules (specifically the coaching one) if they cant be enforced consistently. But I don't think that is practical. Ultimately this whole thing has been politicized which is also of Serena's doing. Instead of losing with grace and class she has to find a way to keep the spotlight on her, play the victim card, and ultimately completely ruin another person's championship. It's utter BS.
[–]Legofdragon 17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
She went back at least 12 times to whine and bitch at the ref. She has a horrible attitude and a major victimization complex. She may not be blaming men, but she definitely earned all the backlash coming her way.
Selfish, entitled, bitch.
What do you know about her to be so sure that she's a selfish, entitled bitch? The William's were given no credence and were expected to get wrecked out of existence when they first went on tour. They had nothing. Their dad risked everything to take them to Florida and get them into the tennis sphere.
She is the greatest tennis player of all time and also has had the most bullshit incidents happen to her. The 2004 incident is the earliest I can remember but Wimbledon trying to ban her because she grunted was a big one.
[+]Zoenboen -9 points-8 points-7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, I mean, she's like the best there ever was in female tennis. You might be a dick too. John McEnroe turned this same shit into a post-retirement career.
[–]captainp42 -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
She might not be blaming men, but others are doing it for her.
[–]omegaphallic -5 points-4 points-3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Wow, the pretty petty on the part of the refs
[–]50PercentLies 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We're getting downvoted to hell, but yeah it is. It's easy to look at Serena's behavior and see it as worthy of a penalty, but there's no consistency. Ramos showed himself to be erratic whenever he decides he's going to hand out penalties.
[–]hobovirginity 94 points95 points96 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
She lost a tennis tournament to Naomi Osaka and broke into a bitchy tantrum meltdown on live tv.
[–]Dembara 274 points275 points276 points 5 years ago (38 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 57 points58 points59 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I've only ever seen her on Joe Rogan's podcast but this seems to match with the little I have seen of her. The entire podcast consisted of her shifting blame and refusing to take responsibility for anything she said or did. She even blamed the lawsuit against the school on someone else.
[–]tacoyum6 17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If Hitler said "Donuts are pretty good", would he be wrong? xD
[–]ibopm 19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
He wouldn't be wrong, but we also probably wouldn't call him woke and promote his tweets.
[–]tacoyum6 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
True true
[–]omgBBQpizza 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, I finished that podcast not liking her at all.
[–]salbris 37 points38 points39 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly this. She is not the "ally" we want.
[–]MemeTLDR 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Sources on any of this information?
[–]l0c0dantes 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Start googling social autopsy. That was the previous project of hers
[–]Dembara 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yea, see her wikipage, and look up people talking about her around social autopsy.
[–]Hirudin 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
OP cut out a lot of pertinent info about the doxxing website.
In summary: she had a pretty good reason for becoming pretty much instantly disillusioned with the causes of her former "allies."
[–]McFeely_Smackup 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That was WAY too long to read.
[–]MemeTLDR 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is exactly what I needed. Thank you.
[–]NoFuryLikeKristine 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She did say she was a feminist, and also a shitty person at the same time. Are women not allowed to change when they realize they were wrong?
[–]still_futile 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I only knew that last sentence. Really good to know the whole picture.
[–]Zoenboen 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
This is only posted and up voted because of the growing overlap with this movement and Trump supporters. Meaning, this movement is getting worse. Debate and protest was the plan, and now it's about hurting the other side with harsh words and not truth and change.
This isn't meant to put down the true fans of Trump. You and we know who you are among us (and even the Trump voters know who this subgroup is) - and this image's new found popularity is this shining example of this attitude. MRAs shouldn't even give two thoughts about Hillary, whom she's basically trolling, besides a quote or two from her. She's hardly even close to the dangerous or radical feminist that does harm to men. In fact she's pretty guilty of covering up the crimes of men close to her. I'm not a fan of hers but the intersection with men's rights is practically nil.
In short, this is just political garbage seeping into what should be a party neutral movement and it makes me sad. It will fracture us, supporting people like Candace will make us laughed at (it's hard enough to convince people this movement needs to exist).
[–]Dembara 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Mostly agree, though I disagree about Hillary. I think both Trump and Hillary should be criticized for their gender views. The people in politics are a bigger concern, imo.
[–]Zoenboen 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If that's the case we should discuss and lay those views out, separately, and put more weight on the one that's still relevant today.
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[–]Zoenboen 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well I didn't, I made it about the rabid and insecure fans who flocked here not because they believe men need a louder voice but because they are malcontents and this gives them one more thing to cry about. This isn't all Trump voters, but they are out there. I mean, there is this 4chan inspired group that uses things like this to strike out against society just because they don't feel comfortable in it. I don't think that's a men's rights issue, they just see this as a trolling tool. It goes against the common theme of the left, so they enjoy that too. Add in feeling slighted by women and there we go.
Trump is just another lever.
[–]thetafili 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for this.
[–]transoceanicdeath 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
And she's probably making shitloads of money just by being a dumbass. It's crazy how being in the right place at the right time and promoting yourself can get you so far ahead.
Yep. Self advocacy and luck are how many people become famous. I doubt she was really doing well financially before, though.
[–]xNOM 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Yes, and? The common denominator here amongst all the whining is still vagina. People allow women to whine.
[–]Dembara 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
And people allow men to whine. If they agree with the person complaining, it is not whining but righteous indignation. If they disagree, it is whining and the person falsely playing a victim. Quite regardless about whether the complaints are legitimate or not.
In the case of Candace Owens, when she started doxing people, while whining about bullying, she got lambasted from both sides (since the people who she would be doxing were from every side). She then started whining claiming Brianna Wu personally threatened her and actively encouraged people to attack her (there is no evidence for or against this). Some people supported her, but most GGers didn't trust her. She then came out with the standard line about how democrats were the real racists, went to a few conservatives who didn't know her history, lied and was just controversial enough to keep relevant and rode into fame.
It is not an uncommon story.
[–]Hirudin 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
(there is no evidence for or against this)
Horse shit
None of the evidence presented shows her calling on people to attacked her... However, Owen's did lie in her blog post from which that was all taken (saying the mock site had never been up, when in fact it had and had had entries).
[–]xNOM 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Noone asks a woman to man up and admit they're wrong. Ever. Witness John MacEnroe having to defend his statement that Williams would be ranked 300 in the world. Which was generous.
People are telling Serena to grow up and admit she's wrong... I've seen some articles by women commentators saying as much (that it is a standard ruling which was applied entirely correctly and is often applied to men).
Also, I should not Serena basically agreed with MacEnroe (in an interview), though she did make some tweets capatilizing a bit on the publicity (asking for respect and not to be involved in controversy during an interview).
Also, MacEnroe said she would be ranked "like 700 in the world" not 300.
[–]iProbablyJustWokeUp 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for typing it out so i didn't have too!
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[–]Stuartiebloke 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
r/MensRights.
[–]Weeberz 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
its like you literally cant even read, which is as expected. you cant even forumlate your own syntax, you have to copy it from the dumbest head of state in recorded history
[+]chambertlo -17 points-16 points-15 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You sound salty. LMAO.
[–]Dembara 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nope, just describing what she did.
[–]goodmod[M] 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The title of your post does not say enough about its subject. This forces people to click and read before they can decide whether they are interested. It also makes searching impossible.
If everyone did this, the subreddit would become unusable.
So please don't do it. Take the time to describe your link, and save the time of hundreds of other people.
When making a title, it's best to assume the reader doesn't know what you're talking about - but don't go overboard with every detail. Then check if there are any words you can cut out without losing any important information.
[–]ShinyGrezz 101 points102 points103 points 5 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
So, Williams decided that her violations amounted to a sexist umpire?
When her opponent, who these docked points benefitted, was a WOMAN?
That, that is the epitome of nonsensical.
[–]666shanx 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Her argument is that male athletes get away with tantrums and acting out without penalities.
[–]bigbronze 27 points28 points29 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
What she said was that her violations were unjust since other men who have done the same thing as she did didn’t get the same violations. I honestly think she actually has a point unless people bring up cases in which men and women both get violations for the same actions.
Her argument is that if she was a guy, she wouldn’t have gotten those violations.
[–]sppotlight25 points 5 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
But he has not been hesitant to penalize men. Ramos gave Murray a code violation during the 2016 Olympics after Murray accused him of “stupid umpiring.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/09/09/sports/tennis/serena-williams-umpire-carlos-ramos-us-open.amp.html
[–]amp-is-watching-you 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Direct link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/09/sports/tennis/serena-williams-umpire-carlos-ramos-us-open.html
I'm a bot - Why? - Ignore me - Source code
[–]sup3r_hero 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good bot
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
For real. Did Serena William's not know who Ramos was? The dude is not the one to target.
[–]666Evo 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
other men
lol
[–]Moordaap 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The important question to ask is whether or not she broke the rules and her punishment was correct in that sense.
If she did brake the rules and got a fair punishment, while men who broke the same rules didn't get punished where they should have been. Then she is not the victim. The victims are the opponents of those men who should have been punished. Then it is actually sexism against men.
However, if Serena didn't break the rules, or if the rules are very ambiguous, then she has a point.
[–]bigbronze 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I not denying that. I never said Serena didn’t do wrong; I just think that if she could actually bring up evidence that shows men doing the same and not getting the violations at the end, she has a point.
[–]Mode1961 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
BUT, if her actions were against the rules and the punishment she receives is what those men SHOULD have received, then she isn't a victim of sexism. The victims are the opponents of those other men who didn't get punished.
[–]chambertlo 17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Welcome to feminism.
[–]alarumba3 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
I guess she ran out of race cards to play.
[–]Zoenboen 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I can't believe the best female tennis player of all time is pulling race cards. She's exactly an example of someone who is better because that shit would fuel her (and the attention her sister got before her).
[–]matrix2002 81 points82 points83 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Ugh, really guys? Candace Owens?
She is an idiot who doesn't know "if climate change is real".
If you are in doubt about how dumb she is, then go listen to her on Joe Rogan. She is fucking moron who thinks she is smart because she can fucking google.
[–]78stickup 19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Who cares? I can't stand Owens but the statement itself is 100 percent accurate. If Trump says the sky is blue that doesn't make it pink.
[+]chambertlo -47 points-46 points-45 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
She is smarter than you are. Guaranteed.
[–]matrix2002 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
lol, I am smart enough to know I don't know better than 100% of all scientists about climate change.
[+]666Evo -6 points-5 points-4 points 5 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
I don't know better than 100% of all scientists about climate change.
Not smart enough to know that's a bullshit stat, apparently.
Edit: Downvotes don't mean you're right. 100% of scientists agree about climate change, do they? 100%?
[–]LordFoom 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
100% of scientists agree about climate change, do they? 100%?
Just a mere 97%
[–]666Evo -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So, it's not 100%? Interesting.
You know the 97% is bullshit too, right?
[–]LordFoom 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Gosh, you sure got them good.
On the contrary, I know it's accurate, and that the only bullshit here is your commentary.
"The consensus that humans are causing recent global warming is shared by 90%–100% of publishing climate scientists according to six independent studies by co-authors of this paper. Those results are consistent with the 97% consensus reported by Cook et al (Environ. Res. Lett. 8 024024) based on 11 944 abstracts of research papers, of which 4014 took a position on the cause of recent global warming. A survey of authors of those papers (N = 2412 papers) also supported a 97% consensus."
http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/11/4/048002
[–]myevillaugh 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh ffs. Athletes and fans always rage at refs. When this much is on the line, people get pissed. This is a non issue.
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[–]Mage_x 19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yea I started following this subreddit a while ago and it was more about hypocrisy being called out and advocating for both men’s and women’s rights which I appreciate but recently it’s taking a kinda scary turn towards straight up disliking women.
[–]bubby963 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
recently it’s taking a kinda scary turn towards straight up disliking women.
Gee, feminists and women get tonnes of help and support for the problems they have from both society and government, and even get unfair benefits in many are as, yet when men point out the systematic and societal i equalities they still face these same feminists come out and call them misogynist and evil and say they dont have a right to talk because theyre men. I wonder why more men are coming to dislike women hmmm what a mystery hmmmmm
[–]hackometer 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The post's title may be biased, but the actual content totally is about men's rights because Serena's main claim is that there are double standards for male and female tennis players.
In this instance she argues for the right of the woman to be rude to the umpire because men supposedly have that right.
[–]Zoenboen 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Men are sometimes rude. This might actually be a real double standard for women at large, besides this one situation. I can get onboard with this from women, because I don't hate them. I see this as a problem day to day in the corporate world too. Strong women I work with and for are treated like shit and insulted for wanting things done right and when they are political they get called a lot worse things than "smart".
Clinton, she's hardly some feminist dream, she's attacked be Candace because her fans love that shit. She may make excuses for losing the election but it's never been blamed on "men" and double standards. So this isn't even entirely accurate.
She just likes saying unpopular things to get attention. Yawn.
[–]hackometer -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The more stories I hear, the more I get the impression that the US is a hotbed of mysogyny. I work in a European country and in my entire professional career I've seen exactly one instance of a woman being put down at work. It came from a guy for whom absolutely everybody agreed to be a world-class douchebag and idiot. I haven't heard any mysogynistic stories from other workplaces, either.
In some instances I saw sexism work the opposite way: males in the office fawning over a female coworker, offering to help her with her tasks while neglecting their own.
In a large majority of cases, however, women were just regular colleagues.
[–]IBurnedMyBalls 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I wrote an in depth article that explains the entire issue along with an analysis, if anyone is interested.
I like this! :)
[–]IBurnedMyBalls 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you very much :) I read a lot of the articles online and felt they didn't address the issue thoroughly, so I Sat down and transcribed the entire thing for hours before writing an analysis.
[–]Alphonetic 33 points34 points35 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oof it’s Candace Owens lol
At least we can agree on some things
[–]Starky_Love 23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
This same post is blowing up in t_D.
Birds huh?
[–]2010_12_24 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Reddit masstagger for Chrome shows you may be onto something
https://imgur.com/cWzTw0V
[–]666Evo -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Maybe you should use something a little easier on the eye?
Maybe like a yellow star or something?
Just a thought.
[–]2010_12_24 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah, I prefer how the color makes me disgusted whenever I see it.
[–]78stickup -5 points-4 points-3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm a radical leftist and agree with OP.
[–]proteios1 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I get it, but women are people too. They struggle. They hurt. The bottom line is that men and women get mad and act rudely sometimes. its being human. And as much as the feminist movement hurts women, it also dehumanizes women. These women get frustrated at struggle - I get it. When they blame those who arenot responsible, rather than look inward...well - that is a personal failure that feminism seems to be ok with. But the fact there are embarrassing outbursts that say they are people too - that seems human. I would just hope that they wake up the next day and say the same thing a man (or anyone) would...'sorry about that - i was really mad'
[–]Hullabaloo036 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Classy
[–]thaumoctopus_mimicus 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Clearly she's never heard of Nick Kyrgios. He's been fined the shit out of for being foul-mouthed, and (big surprise) he's male too!
[–]EricAllonde -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sure, but he doesn't play the victim card the way feminists always do.
[–]RadMan2112 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Oh come one, she’s a nutter.
She supposedly got racist, threatening calls while in high school and her family sued the school and got a payout (because it was the schools job to stop every student from making phone calls?) After dropping out of college, she started a company to dox anonymous trolls, got involved in gamersgate and then got doxxed herself. She blamed liberals and decided that they are all racist after Milo the pedo and pizzagate Cernovich came to her defense (because strong women need defending from internet trolls, I guess?). So she has been pro-trump ever since. Great. She’s like the black guy you see every so often wearing the confederate flag, or the Mexican with the swastika tattoo.
[–]FlakyWhale 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yeah so woke that she doesn't believe in climate change. Also why is she bringing Hillary Clinton into this, get this partisan hack out of here.
[–]Drezzzire 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Damn Fucking preach!
[+]Ob1kUnoLi -9 points-8 points-7 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Why is this on r/mensrights this is some incel shit
[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just saying that doesn't make it true.
[–]jacksleepshere 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Suggesting that you can't blame other people when you lose has fuck all to do with incels.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly it's like the polar opposite of incels since their whole thing is blaming the world for their celibacy.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's just some punk trying to denigrate everyone here.
Downvote, block, move on. This is just trolling.
[–]2010_12_24 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As if mensrights isn't just a haven for incels
[–]jonlojoie 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The are not meant to be inspiring, they are meant to reward confident leading males. They can also have more purposes.
[–]MyOtherTagsGood 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good point and message, has no place here though
[–]fenixdragoon 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why is this on "Men's Rights"???
[–]Fuzzpot 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah, fuck that. This woman is an enabler of worst POTUS ever, embodiment of everything wrong with masculinity and lacking of anything good: all pride/ignorance/greed/anger, lacking any nobility/loyalty/stoicism.
[–]Tricksy314 -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Candace Owens is awesome
[–]Jpmc1 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wrong sub?
[–]swaite 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What does this have to do with men's rights?
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[–]Vinniikii 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Same people who think Hilary is still relevant. Good for you for smelling the talking points but who is you people
[–][deleted] 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]Vinniikii 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s like Dances With Wolves, when you learn a people’s ways to fight them, at a certain point you become them
[+][deleted] -27 points-26 points-25 points 5 years ago (31 children) | Copy Link
And yet when Trump does it her MAGA-supporting ass hardly says a word. If it weren't so obviously political opportunism I'd be right on board with *this* being a clear case of misandry: giving the dude a pass because you only expect better from women.
[–]TheVineyard00 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Oh I agree, although I'm generally more inclined to support ideas rather than people. I dislike Candace Owens generally, but I'm not gonna stray away from agreeing with her here because of that, y'know? I can definitely see why one would want to avoid her, though.
[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's just ironic how people here of all places would fall for the game she's playing just because she doesn't call herself feminist.
[–]TheVineyard00 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Eh, I don't necessarily think she's lying about her views. She definitely baits a lot of people into her following, but you can do so while still expressing your legitimate beliefs.
[+][deleted] -6 points-5 points-4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm normally pathologically willing to humor the trolls, but she's 1) pretending simple statements are unclear, 2) ignoring points to debate the way things are being said, 3) conflating the ad populum fallacy with scientific consensus, which is actually a little clever to be naive, 4) pulling the "I guess it's you making assumptions about me" game and 5) her account stats.
I call Bingo.
[–][deleted] 28 points29 points30 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
It must really suck for you, living in a world that revolves entirely around Donald Trump
[–]A_Real_Name 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
At the risk of an r/woosh, the context mentions Hillary, what's wrong with bringing in Trump?
[+][deleted] -19 points-18 points-17 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sick burn?
[–]DeerAndBeer 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You could use a hug
[–]TheImpossible1 -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
Still bitter the female supremacists lost?
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
I didn't even know they were playing this weekend.
[–]TheImpossible1 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
crickets
That joke was awful.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
So then hit me back with a witty zinger.
Serve some retort reform.
[–]TheImpossible1 -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
Eh I'll pass.
Something feminists should say at the buffet tbh.
Yes I know the joke is bad. It's low effort.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
You know, you bring up a food reference as a cop-out, you're just setting yourself up for a chicken joke.
[–]TheImpossible1 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago* (15 children) | Copy Link
Go ahead, it'll bomb harder than Battlefield 5.
Now that was actually a good one, as it shows how badly feminist junk sells.
Source : https://www.pcgamesn.com/battlefield-5/battlefield-5-pre-order-sales
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
You got me. I can't make fun of MRA merchandise like that because the only ones who've ever paid their junk any attention are MRAs.
[–]TheImpossible1 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Ghostbusters 2016?
The new Doctor Who?
Ocean's 8?
So many feminist failures.
[–]Unlucky13 -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Candace Owens is a piece of shit. Fuck anything she's got to say.
[+]chambertlo -7 points-6 points-5 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I love Candice Owens, but what does this have to do with Men's Rights? Women's tennis is a shit sport, and we have two losers (Clinton and Williams) autistically screeching about another woman. This seems more like /r/pussypassdenied material., and I really don't want to read about it here.
Let's keep this sub about issues that solely relate to men. Thanks.
[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hate Candace Owens and agree with you. How did this get upvoted so much? I thought we were better than this
[–]NoFuryLikeKristine0 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Because she's anti-feminist? It's essentially anti-SJW rhetoric, which actively conflicts with the men's rights movement.
[–]Zoenboen 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She's just against anything popular because she's a troll.
[–]Feshtof -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
From Candace Owens who makes hitpieces against journalists for articles they didn't write.......
https://archive.is/o6ox6
[–]Arrow218 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Literally so many girls on my twitter saying she's telling it how it is, men are so spoiled and whatever they do is sugarcoated, lol. How fitting in the instance that sparked this Serena was wrong.
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