I sort of feel bad for the incels as they lost their board. Sure, it was a lot of hate and probably wasn't helpful at all for them, but they deserve a place to express their gripes if its not hurting other people.
1, no one is speaking out against objectification, the metoo movement is supposed to be about sexual harassment which is a very different concept.
2, point out that most of the famous women currently speaking out used objectification to aquire fame and riches, and continue to do so.
3, male and female singers release songs which objectify both men and women, so to raise the issue as solely something that affects women is ridiculous.
4, tell the child he's too young to understand anyway since he has no idea what it really means to objectify someone.
5, don't worry about it, the kid never said this anyway.
If you work hard, you can have a fantastic body. Most men I have met are lazy or have excuses.
Have you lifted for 10 years straight 5 days a week, without taking a break?
Probably not. Note before someone says "that's a waste of time". Even the medical association recommends at least 30 minutes of exercise per day. It helps you mentally, and physically.
We're all 'objects' yet we're more than that as well. Objectification reduces one to only being an object and requires you to ignore or disregard the non-object parts. Objectification, i.e. removing one's human worth, requires more than just saying "you're tits are nice". It requires putting no value to anything other than to the physical.
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I sort of feel bad for the incels as they lost their board. Sure, it was a lot of hate and probably wasn't helpful at all for them, but they deserve a place to express their gripes if its not hurting other people.
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A few points she could make:
1, no one is speaking out against objectification, the metoo movement is supposed to be about sexual harassment which is a very different concept.
2, point out that most of the famous women currently speaking out used objectification to aquire fame and riches, and continue to do so.
3, male and female singers release songs which objectify both men and women, so to raise the issue as solely something that affects women is ridiculous.
4, tell the child he's too young to understand anyway since he has no idea what it really means to objectify someone.
5, don't worry about it, the kid never said this anyway.
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This is a solid argument. However, one is still left wondering why it's okay for a rich and famous musical artist to objectify women.
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If you work hard, you can have a fantastic body. Most men I have met are lazy or have excuses.
Have you lifted for 10 years straight 5 days a week, without taking a break?
Probably not. Note before someone says "that's a waste of time". Even the medical association recommends at least 30 minutes of exercise per day. It helps you mentally, and physically.
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To quote myself "Tyler, The Creator gets banned from the UK for misogyny but Ed Sheeran sings about nothing but fucking bitches and hes a gentleman?"
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Objectification requires more than just being attracted to someone.
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We're all 'objects' yet we're more than that as well. Objectification reduces one to only being an object and requires you to ignore or disregard the non-object parts. Objectification, i.e. removing one's human worth, requires more than just saying "you're tits are nice". It requires putting no value to anything other than to the physical.
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All of them?
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