Women Are Much More Selective And Find 80% Of Men Unattractive On Dating Apps, Per Recent Research

bottleblank · 2023-02-21T15:20:34+00:00

its actually less than 20 now, this research has been done multiple times also by okcupid and Tinder showing women find 80% of men not even worth talking to. Also take into account the population of men on dating apps is 3x that of women making it even worse.

J_KILLA89 · 2023-02-21T14:56:55+00:00

And then people wonder why there's been an increase of older virgin men. And when these older virgin men seek out escorts they get shamed for it by women smh. Men nowadays are basically in a lose lose situation. This is why a lot of men are getting passports to travel to different countries to find a women with realistic standards.

Feminism and beta male simps with dating apps and social media have destroyed the dating market for the average male

Llorion · 2023-02-21T14:33:07+00:00

Only 80%? I doubt it's that low.

IllustraSeris · 2023-02-21T13:27:26+00:00

Stop simping Kings... A majority of men's problems would be solved.

TheBowlofBeans · 2023-02-21T12:58:35+00:00

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HendoRules · 2023-02-21T15:42:54+00:00

Ironically for them, they'll be as lonely as the men they don't match with by having such incredibly crazy high standards

Cruxito1111 · 2023-02-21T17:34:38+00:00

So, (M36)i’ve above average looks, or in other words; i’m a good looking man( according to my friends). I was married to a very attractive woman( can prove it with photos, two babies came out of that 8years relationship). We were separated almost two years ago— she left due to me working tool damn much, bullshit!!! In this market, she was still hit on by a lot of fucking simps. That’s the real reason. i don’t care. we are cool.

I’m saying all of the above for this reason, when i decided it was time to date(8months after), holy fucking hell!!! Online dating is brutal! even Dating through cold approach now days for men is brutal! I can’t even get a real decent date! and if i met girls through friends i’m disgusted by their delusional expectations and their shitty behavior!

Last week i discovered a Youtube Channel by a philippine girl sending an invitation to the men in America to come to the Phillipines. I binge a shit tons of videos about men going abroad to find partners. So i’m actually considering it, and i’ll invite all of you to do so.

Martamis · 2023-02-21T13:14:47+00:00

I also find 80% of women on dating apps unattractive. But I live in a small oil patch town.

ReapersWifey · 2023-02-21T14:36:10+00:00

I hate dating apps for this very reason. It's artificial and extremely superficial. Most people don't photograph well. If you base decisions on a picture and a quick bio, that's really shallow.

I don't like dating app culture. Best way to not be part of the 80%? Get off the app, and go to meeting places surrounding hobbies and things you enjoy.

IceWingAngel · 2023-02-21T12:51:33+00:00

Recent? Lol. A certain subsection of vilified men that got regulated off this and many other social media sites have been saying this for years.

Lonewolf_087 · 2023-02-21T17:08:55+00:00

I think women generally have always been a bit pickier but the social media culture and abundance of easy to get men has changed the dynamic.

darthjory · 2023-02-21T13:59:30+00:00

The Pareto distribution for ya!

Equivalent_Creative · 2023-02-21T15:28:25+00:00

I would say how I feel but I don’t want anyone to say I hate women over a opinion and possibly ban.

jy856905 · 2023-02-21T14:01:23+00:00

nothing new but in the end it hurts them the most. maybe 80 percent of men need to start going for the 20 percent of women they will have best life with.

2close2home · 2023-02-21T17:48:26+00:00

Men love people unconditionally, women love you on the condition your provide something

LUCKYMAZE · 2023-02-21T17:52:53+00:00

All women go for the same top 5-10% dudes and they don’t mind sharing them

psicotico · 2023-02-21T14:38:28+00:00

I'm convinced that most women don't love you. They love the idea of you, of what you can offer. Once that idea changes, they stop loving you. That reflects on them finding partners.

APA770 · 2023-02-21T15:42:16+00:00

What else is new? It's no secret that women are a lot shallower than men.

Mammoth_Cut5134 · 2023-02-21T16:07:13+00:00

No shit. The 20/80 rule is real.

swizacidx · 2023-02-21T16:48:52+00:00

Whilst I don’t disagree with data, dating apps at least where I live are a one way ticket to meeting horrible people who are highly selective and selfish in nature so the result feels unsurprising

CawlinAlcarz · 2023-02-21T16:10:04+00:00

Dating apps in your 20s are the playground of the Chads and women in general. In your 30s, things get better, but the crowd you're looking at are more desperate and are often settling for you because Chad is still busy sport fucking the 20-somethings.

The single most important thing I can say to young men today about dating and marriage is that you absolutely MUST MUST MUST be involved with a woman for several years before marrying her. I would consider 4 years a minimum. During that time, and depending on what your standards are, you need to be vetting her about her background.

Do you want the girl who got run through at the house party every Saturday?
Do you want the girl who went back stage with the rock band (or goes every time the band is in town) and blew them all?
Are all her friends guys? Get to know them too. How many of them have been friends with benefits, or maybe were up until you, or maybe still are? How many of her present, regularly contacted male friends has she actually been intimate with? How many of those guy friends WANT to be intimate with her? Why hasn't she dated any of those "friend zoned" guys?
Find out about her past boyfriends. Was she ever engaged? Did she dump that guy or did he dump her? Why? Is she still carrying a torch for one of her exes?
Find out who her female friends are. Are they single and still going to the house parties and getting run through?
Are her single friends faithful to their boyfriends/husbands if they're in rleationships?
How many of her friends are married and are they pushing her to get married? Is she feeling the pressure and expectations of her married friends to get wifed up ASAP?
Do her friends want to have girls' weekend getaways during Spring Break in Florida?
Does one of her female friends have dirt to spill on her friend because she wants you?
Find out her body count (if that matters to you) and whatever number she tells you, triple it. She will have all sorts of justifications for lying to you about this number - she may not count things like one night stands, or guys she just gave BJs to, or guys she only gave anal to, she will DEFINITELY not tell you about the rock band (and bouncers) she blew, etc. Triple the number she tells you and make your decision about it from an informed perspective. I would have said that you should just double the number she gives you for body count 20 years ago, but hey, times they are a'changin'.
Is there porn of her out on the internet? Has she ever been an OF "model" or the like?
Get to know her parents - is mom a shrew? Did mom baby trap dad? Who runs her parents' household? Is dad there but not really "there"?
Is your girl the product of a single mother? If so, talk to and get to know her mom AND dad both.
Did dad dump mom because mom was a cheating slut or because she requested an open relationship?
Is dad an asshole and did your girl date (fuck) 50 assholes like her dad before she settled on you?
Get to know her siblings. What kind of people are they? Is her sister the town bicycle? Is her brother a drug dealer with two separate baby-mommas?
Does she have a history of requiring mental health care? Suicide attempts? Rehab? Was she seriously abused earlier in her life by a family member? Past boyfriend/husband?
How does she handle money? Is her personal spending beyond her means? Does she rely on family to bail her out of debt? Does she have a ton of credit card debt? Massive student loan debts? Are there any bankruptcies in her past? Is she collecting alimony and/or child support and could she make it financially without those funds? Does she owe any money to legal settlements/alimony/child support/bankruptcies, etc.?

Yes - you need to be vetting her long enough to get to know her well enough to find these answers out before you marry her. I have known these things about every woman I've dated for more than a couple months. It doesn't really take that long to find them out.

Honestly, you're far better off using your 20s to chase wealth and excellence. Hell, if you have a decent job, you can hire an escort every month or two for a few hundred bucks and it will still be cheaper than dating in both actual money and your time, and you are far less likely to be baby trapped. Think about it - a dinner out is a MINIMUM of $60 and that's for burgers/bar food with a beer each. If you actually order appetizers, dinners, with a bottle of wine, and dessert, you're looking at $100 easy. Imagine doing that every week for "date night". You can spend a pretty good hour with an enthusiastic and reasonably attractive escort for $200. Also remember, you don't pay an escort to show up, you pay her to leave.

Frequent_Grand_4570 · 2023-02-21T14:37:42+00:00

Ok, how do 20% of men have the time and stamina to do 80% of women? :0

DaveinOakland · 2023-02-21T14:20:27+00:00

80% is being kind

90-95% of people, man or woman, on those apps are unattractive

Naru4odo · 2023-02-21T14:44:22+00:00

And water is wet.

GeheimerAccount · 2023-02-21T15:47:45+00:00

thats not "new research", thats years old XD

power_forward87 · 2023-02-21T21:17:54+00:00

That’s ok, most of them that act like that look like Thanos with boobs, and have their venmo and cash app in their profile.

Even-Illustrator6865 · 2023-02-21T21:41:56+00:00

It's funny how the Sexual Revolution reversed thousands of year of progress. Today, as in the old days, the top minority of men and the bottom majority of women have the greatest to gain from the sociosexual arrangement, while the bottom majority of men and the top minority of women have lost all of the ground they gained in past centuries.

banjinoriga · 2023-02-22T01:13:49+00:00

20% is still too high lol

WRAD120 · 2023-02-22T02:44:10+00:00

Yeah no shit. They all want that fake Disney fairytale

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melancoliamea · 2023-02-21T15:21:11+00:00

Every girl wants her price charming. Money is the biggest perfection.

krynnotaur · 2023-02-21T17:25:45+00:00

I wonder how did they sort out all the bots first?

PrintMoreMoneyz · 2023-02-21T17:34:15+00:00

#PassportBros

RemarkableReturn8400 · 2023-02-21T23:02:57+00:00

Passport Bros win again!!!

rabel111 · 2023-02-22T00:22:35+00:00

Not only more selective, but more selective base on shallow attributes. This is consistent with women chasing an idealised male prototype (the centerfold), rather than appreciating men as human beings with features and flaws just like women and real personalities.

Key-Supermarket-7524 · 2023-02-22T00:37:49+00:00

Women ☕ Using up their options to find the "best" via unrealistic standards It's gonna simmer down once they hit 30+ Lol

TaxiVarennes · 2023-02-22T06:48:36+00:00

Always has been

This is their true power

wild_neuroses · 2023-02-21T13:25:28+00:00

If I could get pregnant from sex I would be much more selective.

ChaosOpen · 2023-02-22T01:28:40+00:00

Let's face it, men are not the fairer sex, apps like Tindr and OKCupid are not a good place to meet women simply because women do not find a mate visually.

ArgueLater · 2023-02-21T20:16:58+00:00

Hey yo! That's not what this article says. While the point you're trying to make has merit, you're basically just quoting the OKC study from a long time ago.

beleidigtewurst · 2023-02-21T14:29:30+00:00

So what?

It's not something new and there are reasons for that.

Also note that "dating apps" is an euphemism for "let's bang". If anything, 20% being attractive for random sex is surprisingly high.

Think about consequences of sex for women. NOT TODAY, with condoms and contraception, but for, like, 99.99% of human history as species.

EvilSporkOfDeath · 2023-02-21T17:05:45+00:00

How is this a mens rights issue?

hit4party · 2023-02-21T19:25:14+00:00

I stopped revolving my life around social media and apps, focused more on real life experiences and have been happy since.

Pro tip fellas : a lot of the 5’3 girls who say they need a 6foot man and set that as their preference on tinder - don’t know the difference between 5’9 and 6’0 in person.

In turn I’ve also had more time to spend on things that actually make me happy, leading to an overall better “me” experience which I think leads to more attractive energy.

I wasn’t really able to apply any of the red pill stuff I learned until I was past the “rage stage”

HereForExcel · 2023-02-21T19:46:33+00:00

As a male, i’m selective on the apps. I don’t get many matches, but I’m not wasting either of our time with someone I don’t think will work out to potential long-term.

Jmeyers08 · 2023-02-21T14:27:51+00:00

There’s nothing wrong with this, in my opinion. We should be more selective too. Nothing wrong with having high standards for yourself!

wiwaszka · 2023-02-21T17:13:01+00:00

I'm not exactly sure how does it relate to men's rights?

Jonger1150 · 2023-02-21T16:47:21+00:00

Men have zero biological reason to be selective. An ugly chick and a hot chick can both give birth to our children.

The mother of my children is pretty average.

My daughter is beautiful because of me.

;)

Net_Flux3 · 2023-02-21T17:13:56+00:00

Why is this PUA garbage posted here? This is a Mens Rights subreddit, not a "how to become better dildos for your female masters and get validation from them" subreddit. It's dangerous for men to date or even interact with females without having rights, to begin with.

cabsmom2020 · 2023-02-21T15:33:36+00:00

That's dating app "studies " and one of them was 27 people. The other does show that women, by looks ALONE, don't find men attractive as often. It doesn't factor in how many women do find men attractive in a broad range when they know them.

I've also heard that on those same dating app "studies" women message men across a broader spectrum of looks and more men primarily message higher rated women. So, perhaps, there's more to it than you think.

nxanthis · 2023-02-21T17:29:24+00:00

These women are NEVER going to find fulfillment because they are looking for perfect when they themselves are NOT perfect. There are Godly women out there that are not like this though. My son found one thankfully.

cjgager · 2023-02-21T18:06:15+00:00

oof - show the actual reference paper for "the study" - i don't need no twitter guy picking & choosing the proper data points for me - talk about bias

M3atpuppet · 2023-02-21T22:50:20+00:00

Someone wake me up when we have lifelike androids like in Westworld.

klouted_pollo · 2023-02-22T01:41:40+00:00

When I was 18-20 I used dating apps tough mainly tinder. I messaged every girl that swiped right back on me. Outa all the chicks that I messaged I only got about 10 replies most were dry, lacked character, wanted hookups, and I lead the convo/interaction

I used to feel proud cause I thot I was putting in work that way…. Then I realized as I got older that that shit is pointless and too much/one sided

Imoldok · 2023-02-22T02:52:33+00:00

Spoons make me fat.

Notorious_nico2020 · 2023-02-22T03:01:42+00:00

Same people are getting laid as before, these apps just made it easier.

2close2home · 2023-02-22T03:38:05+00:00

I love how a tradfem magazine like evie gets posted so much here. I’m a fan.

ElectronicBoss2845 · 2023-02-22T09:39:12+00:00

I believe it. I have had women straight up ignore men talking to them first to bring me into the conversation.

Brofudge · 2023-02-22T18:49:02+00:00

People can choose whoever to fuck regardless of their gender

If nobody wants to fuck you, that’s a you problem

Hurin_89 · 2023-02-22T21:25:41+00:00

I do well on apps and I’ve posted my data on the Bumble sub before. At least in the top ten to twenty percent of men by my guess being swiped right on by eighteen percent of women, some of them very attractive.

I think the average woman swipes right on four out of one hundred men. That’s the average woman. One of my most attractive matches told me she swiped right on about one out of two hundred and fifty. Fucking absurd. If I had all the apps downloaded and the time to chat I could fuck a different one almost every day. It would be awesome if I was a total asshole but I’m in my late thirties and sex with someone who I’m not romantically interested in generally sucks.

These apps don’t release data and if they do it’s very controlled. The glaring issue is the amount of men compared to women on them. It’s got to be three to one at best.

SirJames420 · 2023-02-21T14:47:47+00:00

because every damn one of them are just too good for us dontcha know? lol

DivideDangerous6713 · 2023-02-21T13:23:03+00:00

So you're upset that women have a preference?

TVLord5 · 2023-02-22T02:39:28+00:00

Come on guys. This is a rambling garbage article. Besides: key words here are "on dating apps." And there's so.much that goes into that. First of all they actually look at profiles more, let's be real most guys just go "is she ugly? No? Swipe right. It's pretty common knowledge that women are more attracted to personality traits than appearance overall, so if they ARE just looking for a hookup they need to find the guy really physically attractive. If they're looking for a relationship then they're going to use a lot more clues to be more selective up front if it seems like someone isn't their type. They might pass over some guys they'd give a chance to in real life just because they blend into the noise with so many similar men. And let's not kid ourselves, a lot of dudes are just fucking desperate and that leads to them either not being good at that style of dating, or being one of the crazy dudes who blow up at rejection (or ask for feet pics). All of that means women are going to be even MORE selective b/c there's higher risk involved of having a bad experience. I think the issue is just that dating apps have kind of become the ONLY way to meet people now and that's just not the best format for everyone.

Dronterz · 2023-02-22T06:15:39+00:00

What does this have to do with men's rights?

Ivyiel_focken_doz · 2023-02-21T18:42:21+00:00

I probably don’t count in here, as I’m only on sugar sites, but when I was on other apps and sites the reason I didn’t find men on there attractive was their tasteless bios and lack of pictures. Now all I see is faceless old guys reaching out to me, but even back then it would be less than 2 pictures on every single profile. Most of the time in shit quality too, with a filter or sunglasses on. Stuff’s off putting. The day I come across a dating profile that includes anything except for something along the lines of: “This is my height. If you expect me to treat you like a princess just like your dad did, then I’m not the guy for you.😈🥵I love sports." That will be the day I stop sugaring.

Warm_Pair7848 · 2023-02-21T18:27:09+00:00

“It’s my right as a man to be found attractive” 🤡🌆

ruck_my_life · 2023-02-21T12:53:59+00:00

What is your point? Women hate men and don’t find them attractive? That’s false.

The world and the dynamics that exist between men and women don’t just revolve around tinder and bumble. This notion that women aren’t attracted to men or desire them is tiresome and used incessantly by men who are alone to absolve them from looking inward

GT121950 · 2023-02-22T06:52:37+00:00

if guys are on dating apps then yeah 80% are probably unetractive

Intimate100 · 2023-02-22T05:31:02+00:00

I dont think it matters, women still lots of the time (and more and more) ask out men, and their could be research issues. Men also may be more likely to say they will ask out women due to societies pressure and discriminate treatment. Do most men find 80/100 women attractive?

AtomicQ · 2023-02-21T22:40:06+00:00

Just stop using dating apps, women are much less selective if they know your personality is good.

Dependent_Skill_9924 · 2023-02-22T01:07:01+00:00

Thing is the only people that use dating apps are weirdos and sad cases, desperate men and even more desperate women. Women are worse because its so easy for them to get dick, if there on a dating app then something is wrong with them. Theres spoilt goods for sure, either got kids, too old or fucking nuts

Title	Women Are Much More Selective And Find 80% Of Men Unattractive On Dating Apps, Per Recent Research
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