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Women Can Lie About R@pe

TheAndredal

November 23, 2017

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Title	Women Can Lie About R@pe
Author	TheAndredal
Upvotes	53
Comments	5
Date	November 23, 2017 4:05 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/7ewwyf/women_can_lie_about_rpe/
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[–]DevilishRogue 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]Tedesche 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]DevilishRogue 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

With exculpatory evidence frequently being not just made inadmissible but banned from being shown or referred to and cases that aren't even "He said, she said" like Ched Evans' resulting in wrongful convictions, it seems apparent that rape laws and the functioning of the justice system in relation to them are not fit for purpose.

Is there a false accusation epidemic? With only around 1% of rape accusations resulting in conviction and plenty of these being overturned because they were miscarriages of justice the evidence seems overwhelming. Especially so as the legal definition of rape has been expanded to include drunken, yet consensual sex, as per the initial wrongful conviction of Evans.

The bar between a rape conviction and a false accusation conviction is exponentially higher for a false accusation conviction but despite significant political pressure not to prosecute for false accusations and to deny their frequency and existence the numbers are startlingly high.

Whilst the true number of rapes in relation to false accusations can never be known, looking at the ease of conviction with no evidence for a rape conviction, the number of accusations made and the number of successful prosecutions, it does appear that the vast majority of rape accusations made are untrue.

[–]Tedesche -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Nice collection of statistics. None of them make your argument, but they're good stats to be aware of nonetheless.

You haven't looked at any studies that try to determine the authenticity of rape convictions? How about just the number of rape convictions vs. confessions of false accusations? You're citing a bunch of unrelated statistics and stringing them together to make an argument. That's bad science.

The truth of the matter is, as you said at one point, that we just don't know. I'm heading my bet on a belief in the basic goodness of people, which is informed by (a) my experience and the experiences of most people (who share that belief), and (b) the fact that false accusations of other crimes are similarly in the minority. The data suggest people do not overwhelmingly make up crime allegations—I see no reason to think that's somehow different for rape, and the data don't suggest I either.

Sorry, I'm not that easily bamboozled.

[–]DevilishRogue -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link