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[–]7empest97 1 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
A lot of women flaunt their university degrees as if it makes them more attractive or something. How would your degree benefit me?
[–]OMTAS_ATGM 1 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So what? You want a chick that has the IQ of a brick that you can manipulate how you want?
how would a university degree benefit me?
Did Allah make her for you or something? What's this arrogance? Who the fuck are you?
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Ok incel.
[–]Nellskiiiiiii 1 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Because not everything is about you lmao. Women flaunt their degree because they are proud of the hard work they have done.
Also, it does benefit you - the household has more income.
Because not everything is about you lmao.
Strawman low IQ argument. Never said they shouldn't pursue an education for me. Get better comprehension skills. A degree is simply neutral and shouldn't make a woman demand more than she deserves because it does not benefit the man in any way.
Women flaunt their degree because they are proud of the hard work they have done
Damn I didn't know studying for a gender studies degree was hard work. Must be really tiring to go to parties 6 times a week. And before you tell me "Omg what about the girls that study for STEM degrees?" They are always the most demanding while offering nothing in return but sex and a piece of paper that she won't use because "it's not my job as a woman to provide."
>assuming they keep working after marriage and don't get lazy and fat, while also saying it's not her job to provide for the family as she's "traditional"
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[–]CorianderTastesBad 1 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Can I say a university degree is super attractive and something I look for? Just hear me out.
I don't want a boring wife that has no idea about anything, who's going to sit around all day consuming complete garbage via reality TV or fake news from WhatsApp, eventually being brainwashed into the world of liberal feminism. You can't be there 24/7, you need to trust her and I can't trust. I'm not prepared to babysit and mollycoddle a women whos a dumb blonde (as the sterotype goes) You guys talk about girls sitting at home putting on makeup and going gym and cooking for you? Remember AWALT. Any women born after 1993 and I'm not talking about round rotis, I'm talking about a piece of bread. They are all lazy too.
It's your perogative to find a wife who is educated and has the ability to educate herself when raising children. You can't leave it to whim or chance these days. You need to actively partake in a childs development. Feeding the child the right nutrition, how to discipline, reward and punishment theory, the correct levels of independence, passive or active parenting techniques, position reinforcement, constructive criticism and ultimately raise confident boys or girls that respects themselves.
I already struggle to trust women, so leaving my child at home with a women who is clumsy, forgetful, foolish, reckless, irresponsible is not something I'm prepared to do.
I understand that university is not the only way to find motivated women (alot of brothers will not agree) but it's a good litmus test and indicator for me, atleast I know it means she can read at a bare minimum.
[–]bedaking 1 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I understand your intention Brother and I agree with half of it. I don't want a stupid wife too, I bet most of the brothers here don't want them as well.
But the problem is - your idea only works in theory. A PhD educated educated highly intelligent conservative girl who is also very young (<21), more importantly - youthful, fertile and low maintenance, doesn't have problem with being obedient, dreams of making a good home, is thrilled to be a mother and wife -
I'm sold. I'll take 4 of these, Thank you.
The sad reality is it doesn't work like that for the majority. I know you only meant bachelors, I just added the PhD bit for a dramatic effect. But the point still stands. In this day and education system - More education sadly works against all the traits we men, value in women.
More education means - She has to be rational, hard working and stoic to succeed. So she looses her youthfulness. Seeing and experiencing more of the world means - her lifestyle becomes high maintenance - Which might not be a problem if you are okay with her working temporarily. But in time, when she has to leave the profession - It'll be a big problem. She has to spend shitload of time in order to get the education unless she's like a child prodigy. So, she looses her youth and fertility.
University is a cesspool of liberal propaganda and feminist ideology. On top of that, to succeed she has to adopt some masculine traits. So, ultimately she is masculinized, radicalized. It takes a long time to finish the degrees - most of the girls are not strong enough to resist an infinite amount of pursuing men from all age groups during this vital time. She probably had some good ol cc riding / Or at best some emotional affairs during her education. So, she becomes bitter.
The indoctrination destroys any dream that a young woman might have of motherhood and homemaking. Motherhood and homemaking is seen kind of an afterthought or a chore from the "empowered" perspective. They don't just have a problem with - Obedience. It becomes a trigger word. The O Word.
If you think about all this - Suddenly a dumb, lazy wife who watches stupid TV shows, suddenly seems much more desirable *in comparison*.
While I love the idea in theory - in practice the liberal education just destroys an otherwise good girl. And we don't believe in unicorns. if Unicorns are real, what are we even doing here ?
[–]Ryanreynolds543 1 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This.
[–]_illumi__zoldyck_ 1 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How is university and degrees gonna make them not
clumsy, forgetful, foolish, reckless, irresponsible
Or even motivated. Just teach them what they need to know and thats that. Personality doesnt just come from school
You have a point. I don't mind a good woman who's educated, but them flaunting it like it somehow makes them hotter doesn't make sense. If anything, it usually makes them lower value because they got brainwashed by liberal propaganda and also most probably interacted with non-mehrams.
Girls can have insufferable personalities, irrespective of they went to university or not.
[–]TrynaBeTheBest 1 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
no i mind it cuz:
they are older - at least 21 when i can get an 18 yr old
they use riba - to pay for student loans
they are probs feminist
[–]Beyondthet 1 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Dude, how you gonna say you find a university degree super attractive and in the same breath say you don't want your girl to be absorbed in liberal feminism? Lmao.
complete garbage via reality TV or fake news from WhatsApp,
Then what do you want? A man?
This is what girls do. They do girly stuff. If a girl didn't do that and was a book nerd as you are suggesting I would be extremely worried. I don't want to stay up late at night and discuss the events of pre-Nazi Germany or some shit. I just want to engage in stupid small talk, intimacy and then bed.
Also, if she's a career minded woman and not your average woman who does girly stuff like watch chick flicks and talk about the colour of her nails and so on, then best believe she won't care about her appearance and the way she looks. She won't be a very attractive woman.
Girls are more materialistic and superficial by nature. And it's a damn good thing. That makes us appreciate their beauty more.
It's your perogative to find a wife who is educated and has the ability to educate herself when raising children.
A degree gives a woman the ability to raise children better? GIVE ME A BREAK. University women are putting their kids LAST. You have heard the rhetoric many times before of how their career comes first. This is what the universities you have so high hopes in are teaching them. To be strong, independent and to need no man. If that's the kind of woman you want to marry then good luck.
atleast I know it means she can read at a bare minimum.
University level just so you know she can read? Bro, what are you even talking about. In all honesty, a woman who hasn't been to university would be able to raise children far better than those who are going to liberal universities.
Make no mistake about it, education is not a problem. But the EDUCATION SYSTEM and UNIVERSITIES are.
Consuming fake news from Whatsapp is not a feminine trait imo, it's a stupid trait.
Lol of course you don't wanna discuss the political and social ramifications of Nazi Germany before bed, but don't you want the ability to sometime? I don't want a dumb stupid wife. Stupidity, ignorance, laziness are extreme turn off for me (all radical feminist traits anyway). Imagine needed to explain to her how to life? Bro I'm tired of that, I just wanna switch off sometimes and be able to trust someone to do the right job, for once in my life.
Why does career and average women need to be mutually exclusive? She can still look good and work. It's all about frame at this point.
Stupidity makes me gag, I can't stand a stupid women. Stupidity means mistakes, mistakes mean cleaning up her mess, could be thottery, could be financial could be social, I don't have the energy anymore to babysit and discipline. I have 0 tolerance for mistakes, I need someone who doesn't make mistakes.
Like I said, I do believe there is a science or art to raising children, we are a generation raised by women, look how we turned out? Full of simps and fuckbois, I'm not leaving it chance once again for a STUPID women to raise.
Yes I'm taking a huge chance here I agree, but I'm too far gone to accept a stupid women, I'm a neurotic perfectionist and Im prepared to look past some of her looks to be a great smart mother. it's not even about the women anymore it's about the children. It might sound ridiculous but I genuinely believe people who finish highschool can't read it write properly or to a level that I would like them too.
And honestly the argument that university girls are more susceptible to liberal femisim is kinda negligible. These days it's in embossed into the fabric of society anyone can fall victim.
[–]Edz918 1 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You make a fair point, navigating through the work/family balance isn’t easy at all and finding a woman who can have somewhat of mastery of these things is a gem. Looks are important no doubt, but a sound intellect is also desirable (at least it is for me)
it's better for them to be "stupid" and feminine than be "intelligent" go to university and have liberal values
Women like to gossip about the latest news. It's a part of their nature. Even the Prophet pbuh's wives did on one occasion behind his back. Sure, it's something they need to control, but not understanding that is not understanding female nature.
Why does career and average women need to be mutually exclusive? She can still look good and work.
Because the stress of work doesn't allow them much time to take care of their looks and go to the gym. Also, they don't tolerate stress as well as men and that's why working women age faster and hit the wall.
I have 0 tolerance for mistakes
No offence brother but what you're describing seems factitious. You need tolerance with women. They are going to make mistakes and they are going to make lots of them.
The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said, "Woman has been created from a (crooked) rib and she will never continue to be as you desire her to be: so if you enjoy her, enjoy her while crookedness remains in her. If you try to straighten her, you will break her, and breaking her is divorcing her."[Muslim Book 17, Hadith 79]
I'm not leaving it chance once again for a STUPID women to raise.
Why are you assuming a woman without a degree is stupid? I
And honestly the argument that university girls are more susceptible to liberal femisim is kinda negligible
No, no, no. Look, sure liberalism is widespread in modern society but university is particularly dangerous because it "rationalises" that system of thinking. So when you discuss gender roles for example, this educated woman you are referring to is going to be looking at it from the lens of what university taught them and not from the Qur'an and Sunnah. You see this on mm all the time. "Ohh, but the roles have changed." No, they haven't. Islam made each role for each gender because Allah knows that this is the way relationships are meant to work for perfect harmony. This is the correct understanding on the matter. But a university educated Muslim struggles to see it that way.
Besides, like I said before, having a degree has nothing to do with teaching you how to raise children. In fact these universities are teaching women to put children LAST. So, why you think that it will make for a better mother is absolutely hilarious. It's laughable. Honestly. Just look at what you see these women saying. They don't care about children and family as much as their career. In fact, this is not something that is mubah or something they have a choice in. This way of thinking is haram. Because Islam highly highly recognises the importance of children and family values and for women to take the lead in that. However, feminism and universities teach them the opposite.
[–]abwehrstelle 1 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
University doesnt make them a better person. It makes people worse. They lack spiritualism and suffer mental health issues.
Exactly. Exceptions to the rule always exist, but what you said is right.
[–]Greenl1ghtt 1 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
wait why couldn’t she do both 🤔
[–]M19Wielder 1 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
shut up, please, shut the fuck up
[–]pneumonoultramicrosi 1 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
??? bruh
Confident? Pfftt.
Enjoy the decline.
when they are 35 and childless they wont be conident
Thats actually the goal. Children are a burden, better to live life without them
"burden"?
life is a burden
everything is a burden
children are a great means of reward you are throwing away a golden opportunity
but you can do what you want
but don't compare you spending a couple hundered or few thousand $ in sadaqah jariyah to having many righteous children who are scholars, martyrs, leaders etc
just don't
I am a child of my parents who can become scholar, leader, and hopefully I don’t have to die and become a martyr.
If I have children and am chained to look after them, I will not be able to do any of those things.
Indeed, I do not compare University to having children. University is far better.
[–]sounluckylucky 1 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So u get children to have confidence ? 😂 I'd not be confident if my parents arranged my marriage too .. as that mean i married someone not by their choice or free will but bc thier daddy forced them 🤣😂
FBI we got 'em
so you are an exmuslim or thiking about leaving islam?
you also admitted that you are 21 and dating someone
and you come here to for what?
why do you care so much about us?
If you want to leave islam go ahead
you can make liberalism your God it's your life m8
First of all I am centrist not liberal second i can be here since it public sub and lastly i already left it lucky me tho i cant do it without you preachers or someone trying to kill me so...
you don't get what im say iq too low to comprehend
a 35 year old women is screwed, a 35 year old man can marry a girl 10-15 years younger than him
it's not rare to see a 40 year old guy marry a 20 year old girl
men don't really hit a "wall" if they look after themselves
And i do understand the dumb shit you said u dont understand what i said marriage isnt trophy worthy even animals get married ... at least animals choose who to marry you dont choose your parents decide for you and ye you men can marry way younger girls only muslims be openly proud pedophiles what new ..
real talk i need to marry a righteous gyal
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