I have been reading TRP on and off for years. And before TRP existed, there was the "male dating advice" culture originally started by pickup artists like David DeAngelo and Ross Jeffries before him. Basically what I'm saying is, I've been reading this type of shit long enough to know what's what.
However, something weird happened recently that has changed my perspective on concept of The Wall. The thing that happened was: I entered my 30's. Also, I developed a better social life, and have been meeting more women my age.
As we know, "The Wall" is when a woman turns 30 and her sexual appeal begins to rapidly deteriorate due to her body's aging. The Wall is also a form of sadistic male fantasy in the TRP community: bitter young men who can't get laid often fantasize about how attractive women will someday receive their "punishment" in the form of The Wall, ie becoming unattractive and suffering as a result. The way that many young men view The Wall is honestly pretty toxic and self-destructive. It's sort of a revenge fantasy in their minds. "Sure, I can't get laid today. But in a few years, it will be you females who can't get laid!" - Basically the mindset of many young incel-type males with a chip on their shoulder from being unattractive and unable to get female attention.
There is just one problem with the concept of The Wall: I am now in my 30's, and everywhere I look, I see very attractive women also in their 30's. Even some in their 40's that I would love to pursue if I was single.
I had been expecting for years that when my social group aged up with me, I would notice some kind of change as "The Wall" happened to girls around me who are also my age. But this hasn't happened. Not at all. The same girls who were hot at 22 are now just as hot in my perception at 32.
I pondered this paradox for a bit: Why does TRP talk so much about The Wall, when my personal life experience says that it is not happening? And TRP always talks about the value of real life experience over what other people (usually women) say is real. So of course, even according to TRP itself, I have to believe my own eyes before believing random strangers on the internet who repeat TRP talking points.
My contemplation of this problem led to an enormous moment of clarity. I had this realization: Most of Reddit is young people in their teens and early 20's. Men who are teens and in their 20's are typically not attracted to women aged 30 and up. But men who are 30 and up are attracted to women that age.
In other words: The Wall is not when women stop being attractive to men. The Wall is when women stop being attractive to YOUNG men. Young men, such as the ones who post most of the content on Reddit and spread these TRP ideas to begin with.
This was a huge realization for me and explains the disparity between TRP theory and my real life experience. Everywhere I meet women, I see extremely bangable hot chicks who are in their 30's.
I do see some young women as well, although my social group doesn't include a lot of 20 year olds. And yes, they are still very hot. But not in some insurmountably greater quality that makes women my age incomparable to them.
The one exception to my realization I will say is that all the women my age that are overweight are typically very unattractive. And it does seem that getting older correlates with getting fat, at least for many people. The secret to staying sexy as a woman in your 30's appears to be "stay thin at all costs". If you are thin, there is a very decent chance you will remain attractive to men in your own age group as time goes by. Perhaps the real "wall" is not getting old, but getting fat.
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