A Clarified Definition on the Purple Pill

So, a few days ago, I posted this post [click here] where I argued that if red and blue have clear definitions, so should the purple pill as perhaps the only valid alternative to these incorrect, polarised belief systems. I came to the conclusion that on gender politics,

the purple pill would be anti-traditionalist, anti-feminist, anti-MRA and all that other bullshit. Some would refer to purple pill as exclusively egalitarian in gender politics then. But actually, I've discussed this topic before and proposed intersectional-humanism as a superior theory. But at a first glance that sounds complicated so for the sake of argument, let's just say purple pill is an egalitarian centrist ideology. (Most purple pilled egalitarians are probably also going to be equally opposed to socialism and laissez-faire). It would be a moral ideology compared to most of red pill theory and fewer potential moral outcomes than with the red pill but less so than BP which pretty much just straight-forwardly assumes feminism.

On male dating strategy,

Purple pill theory: egalitarians straight and forward. We don't criticise feminism on the basis that women should be subservient to men. We criticise feminism on the principle that it isn't true women are the marginalised gender, so it can't be necessary to disproportionately represent women like feminists say it is to achieve equality. Feminists claim they are in favour of equality but as long as they disproportionately represent women and make some of the other claims they say they make, we will think of them as sexists, plain and simple. We hate MRAs and traditionalists too. What this means for male dating strategy is that we don't want to pay for drinks, we don't want to put women on pedestals, we don't want to act paternalistic and what's more is, we don't want shit from feminists or traditionalists for it.

And on the black pill,

the conventional purple pill perspective on black pill would not be so different from RP or BP: these guys are not just pessimistic, a lot of them are misogynistic, racist rape and paedophilia apologists. Not a nice crowd. But look, there's a grain of truth somewhere. People do get held back by genetics and external circumstances, and then all the do-gooders and the Christian dating columns tell them "just be positive", "just be yourself", "just be confident", "just find The One" in a society where women's standards are significantly higher, traditional dating is no longer realistic and the dating game is totally fucked up for men because of a clash between polarised forces: traditionalism versus feminism. On top of that, just being positive [click here] isn't always helpful advice [click here]. People need to get negative sometimes because the realisation that things are fucked up is what drives some people to changing things for the better.

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The dating game is definitely skewed against men. Approaching women is a difficult and risky business because guys can get creep-shamed for perfectly reasonable approaches. Feminists tell men "just be nice, compassionate and respectful" but those behaviours don't lead to sexual attraction and can lead to behaviours that put women on a pedestal. Traditionalists tell men "just find the right woman and marry her" but we don't live in the 50s where the girl you want to marry is likely to be a virgin anymore. Red Pillers tell men to "man the fuck up and be dominant and sexual" but it's an amoral borderline creep strategy and especially dangerous with modern day feminism - that's just not who most men are.

We know that most people aren't sociopaths and that's why amoral red pill tactics won't work for most men. Work to improve yourself and do all the basic things you need to do but we won't be the ones to feed useless platitudes to men. We won't tell men "just be positive", "just be confident" when they're in clearly shitty situations. We won't tell men that women are perfect little angels but we won't say things like AWALT either. We offer a true, just, rational and mostly important realistic perspective on dating. We don't think all men who fall back in dating are flawed, lazy, misogynistic, creeps, fakers or unattractive, uncharismatic lowlives. We believe there are men with genuinely virtuous, attractive and desirable traits who can fall back in dating too - that's the nature of 21st century dating.

However, this lead to some debate in the comments and it seems like there are still ambiguities in question given the nuanced grey areas in pillosphere discussions, how the whole concept of the pillosphere tends to mean different things to different people and how people have different ideas, specifically when it comes to purple pill about what that idea is supposed to be (we have true centrists like me, blue-leaning purple pillers and red-leaning purple pillers, etc. and the argument that purple pill is irrelevant to begin with).

So I wanted to provide some simplified truths about the purple pill and where it fits between black, red and blue:

Male Dating Strategy:

Blue Pill: communication, respect, empathy, sweetness, compassion

Red Pill: assertiveness, masculinity, dominance, frame, lifting

Black Pill: if you don't have facial genetics "it's over" but you can improve your chances through lifting and surgery

Purple Pill: the only nuanced view. Guys can be limited by genetics (psychological/physical), social and political circumstances that make dating harder, however you can improve your chances through the combination of blue pill (communication, respect, empathy, sweetness, compassion) and red pill (assertiveness, masculinity, dominance, frame, lifting) strategies.

Gender Politics:

Blue Pill: typically feminist or progressive

Red Pill: apolitical (if they just believe red pill is an amoral dating strategy and nothing else), Libertarian (if they believe that the free market will organically reflect the biological submissiveness of women), Conservatism or Fascism (if they believe that patriarchal structures need to be enforced by the State)

Black Pill: Conservatism or Fascism (if they believe that enforced monogamy is the only solution for incels and need to be enforced by the State), otherwise apathetic (no political stance, just "it's over")

Purple Pill: once again, the only nuanced view. Ideologically centrist, egalitarian (intersectional-humanist) stance

Position on the Black Pill

Blue Pill: they are misogynistic, creepy and deserve to be virgins because of their terrible attitudes towards women ("women intuitively know what they're like")

Red Pill: they are futilistic, weak, emasculated and can't take responsibility for their own failures or work hard to succeed

Black Pill:

• genetic determinism
• lookism/it's over
• zealotry (AWALT, rape and paedophilia apology, glorification of incel terrorists)
• women don't know what we're like

Purple Pill: as ever, the only voice of reason in this discussion.

• external and internal circumstances equally important
• working to overcome external circumstances that make dating hard for men, regardless but looking for changes to happen on the macro (social), not just on the micro (individual) level
• anti-zealotry (peaceful solutions to our problems only): for example, the GMGV tri-fold solution for attractive, virtuous men with desirable traits (ambition, responsibility, passion, dedication, etc.) - Good Men - who fall behind in dating
• there's nothing wrong with all sexually and romantically unsuccessful men (SRUPs) anyway but women certainly cannot intuitively determine our Reddit post history because Good Men (GMs) who fall behind in dating have better social skills than that anyway. Certain folks from incel communities on the other hand ...

Position on the Question of Male Privilege

Blue Pill: Clearly women are the disadvantaged gender

Red Pill: MRAs (clearly men are the disadvantaged gender) or Patriarchs (men are supposed to be in charge of things, "disadvantaged" bitch boys in feminist societies need to man the fuck up and fight for the return of traditional gender roles, the way things are supposed to be naturally)

Black Pill: Men are the disadvantaged gender because we can't get laid and we need patriarchy (to enforce monogamy so we can all get laid)

Purple Pill: Firstly, enforcing traditional gender roles is clearly unethical and also definitely not the solution for incels [click here] anyway. What all of these polarised ideologues say is clearly bullshit because the idea of a marginalised gender is a feminist/MRA myth to begin with to create ridculous debates and gender politics between people who want friction rather than tangible results for equality. Female specific issues that are commonly cited but not non-debatable include:

• higher rates of sexual harassment victims
• lower overall pay rates
• lower representation at the top echelons of society
• plenty of other topics (dealing with chauvinist attitudes, cat-calling, sexual commodification, etc.).

Male specific issues that are also commonly cited but not non-debatable include:

• higher rates of violent assault victims
• higher likelihood of working dangerous, menial labour-type jobs
• high likelihood of military related deaths
• plenty of other topics (dealing with higher rates of incarceration, prison rape, not allowed to show emotional vulnerability, etc.).

Position on Purple Pill

Blue Pill: oh nos clearly you can't have a middle ground [click here], it's either all or nothing. Besides these purple pillers are clearly just red pilled sexist/misogynists.

Red Pill: oh nos clearly you can't have a middle ground [click here]], it's either all or nothing. Besides these purple pillers are clearly just blue pilled cucks.

Black Pill:

• these guys are blue pilled cucks!
• these guys want to project their red pill alpha male cope on us!

Purple Pill: Clearly it's possible to have a middle ground. 0.5 is halfway between 0 and 1; warm is halfway between cold and hot; rationality is half way between Machiavellianism and moralising; balance is half way between left and right.

Position on Intersexual Dynamics

Blue Pill: men and women are similar

Red Pill: men and women are different

Black Pill: feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemoids

Purple Pill: Why is this even a discussion? Clearly men and women have similarities and differences.

Position on the Dating Game

Blue Pill: women do not have higher standards. Men do not find dating more difficult

Red Pill: Women have considerably higher standards. Only 20% of men are vaguely attractive to women, the rest of guys experience dry spells and either have to betabux or stay single. We can still try though

Black Pill: There's no point of trying if you have less than 8/10 looks

Purple Pill: women definitely have higher standards and dating is definitely one of the aspects in life where men are disadvantaged (though admittedly, we can still try). However the main issues for men in dating are the social pressures/barriers effected by the logically inconsistent traditionalist/feminist paradigm.

Conclusion on the Main Points of the Purple Pill

• egalitarianism or intersectional-humanism
• ideological centrism (state-regulated capitalism)
• moral rather than amoral
• dating strategy that requires women take equal responsibilities as well as privileges
• an acknowledgement that just being positive [click here] isn't always sufficient advice [click here]
• women and men have both similarities and differences but ultimately are of equal worth, not equal attributes in a material sense