An 'innocent' looking high n woman has more RMV than a 'slutty' looking low n woman

Boobear3 · 2020-03-29T12:52:44+00:00

Honestly I think it is also just about body type and sexual attractiveness too. Women with more sexual, lusty body types like the classic hourglass usually get accused of being sluts mainly bc more men desire and drool over them so ppl project the slut thing onto them. A woman with “sexy” body could wear a turtleneck and jeans and she will just look “sluttier” than a less attractive woman in the same outfit.

Only highly confident men should bother dating these highly attractive women, bc an insecure weak moron will just whine at her that she’s a slut based off her body, lol

alluringjustice · 2020-03-29T12:49:57+00:00

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Dan240z · 2020-03-29T12:44:56+00:00

There's always outlier's in any environment that you're in. I'm more concerned about STD/STI than n count. A list of signs to look for in social profile of a person is never foolproof as that is mathematically impossible. What you're left with is using high probability marker's with the information you have on hand on a large sample size. Usually when dealing a large sample size. There is a margin of error so you're friend just fell within the margin of error.

040211092616 · 2020-03-29T14:07:42+00:00

Sexy looking women are the sexiest

reluctantly_red · 2020-03-29T20:49:52+00:00

wears yoga pants

That would be 95% of women under 50 outside Amish Country.

alluringjustice · 2020-03-29T12:56:10+00:00

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noxy13 · 2020-03-29T14:55:36+00:00

People really ought to have to include their ages with their comments on this kind of thread.

YveisGrey · 2020-03-29T19:39:00+00:00

I think it just comes down to looks always. Men say the same thing about age but they don’t really care. 38 year old Meghan Markle looks better than Lena Dunham did at 26 let alone her current age of 33. I don’t think in a million years would Harry have chosen a Lena over a Meghan just because of age. Same for n-count, also consider a woman could have a low n count because she can’t attract quality dudes. Like if a woman is unattractive lets say she is morbidly obese she may not be having sex because she just can’t attract average or above average guys (unless they are drunk or something) so it’s not like she has some great character, a woman who is attractive could have a higher n count but she looks good so dudes will still trip over themselves to date her. The whole n count thing is hypothetical in an ideal world a man would pick a hot woman with a low n count but given the choice between not so attractive woman who is a virgin and very attractive woman with a high n count looks will triumph.

Wallstreet3 · 2020-03-29T12:41:01+00:00

You never go off of looks. History, mannerisms, the shit she says, what her friends say and her social media tells the truth of who and what she is.

GennyX · 2020-03-29T12:43:19+00:00

I had a boyfriend (very long term relationship, unfortunately) who always wanted me to dress sluttier and sluttier all the time. His brother used to force his wife to cover everything from her neck, to her wrists and ankles. It’s like men are individuals with different preferences.

obvi_imnicklachey · 2020-03-29T23:56:01+00:00

I keep saying this but they aren’t listening: N COUNT IS EXTREMELY EASY TO CONCEAL.

I’d argue there’s a huge class divide here as well: working class women are usually obvious about their sexual past, just in their appearance, the things they allow themselves to say, etc.

Upper middle class, upper class (raised, specifically) has the “good girl” act down pat. Most women in these classes don’t really care to hide their past (so that’s really the only reason why these men find out) but the ones that do get away with it all the time.

Presentable appearance, self awareness and proper social decorum is about all that’s needed to successfully pull off the “good girl” performance lol tried and true!

akihonj · 2020-03-29T13:32:09+00:00

So this entire post boils down to this

Men treat women differently based on looks and body count doesn't really matter

In other news water is wet and just to clarify the situation women also judge men on looks and body count doesn't really matter.

That is of course right up until the point at which a man starts to seriously consider her as being worth investing time energy and a potential future with that woman, it is usually at this point the body count does matter. It's also usually at this point the church mouse or the high school slut makes little difference if she's had more men barell through her than Omaha beach then she's a walking fleshlight and no more, that man knows all to well that he's a scratch for her itch and he treats her in the same manner.

Innovative_being · 2020-03-29T13:26:54+00:00

The problem with this is, the slutty looking virgin is rare. It’s the exception, not the norm.

The woman who looks pure, but is secretly a slut is much more common. I’d even go as far as to say it is very common.

It’s 2020, most women are sluts whether they look slutty or not. But the fact is, the ones who do look like a slut, are almost always sluts.

And to answer your question. In terms of an LTR, and having kids, I would choose a tattooed woman with an n count of 2 over a woman who dresses modestly with the n count of 20. The former is very rare so this is a purely hypothetical scenario

Barely-moral · 2020-03-29T12:38:13+00:00

Appearance and the image you give to the world is important and no one will deny that.

That being said very few men (that have options, of course, men with no options just settle) will be ok with marrying or LTR a known slut. Both because of involuntary disgust and because her past can and eventually will be revealed.

I know plenty of men that picked their partner based on the image they gave to their social group. So I will not deny that the innocent looking slut will have an easier time finding a partner, but I will say that if she is honest (and a LTR that is not based in honesty is garbage) then she will have more problems keeping that partner. (Again, assuming the partner has options.)

Texan2116 · 2020-03-29T13:34:00+00:00

Personally, I think most of the posters here are playing the exception game. Most people (not all), are pretty much what they look like. If you present yourself a certain way, there is a reason. The OP mentions her friend(moral stripper), and rest assured, in that line of work...she is the exception. Every stripper I have personally known, were all major sluts, and chewed through men , like rock stars through groupies. I think for the most part OPs statement is true, yet is playing the exception game.

Pastelitomaracucho · 2020-03-29T12:43:46+00:00

Absolutely. But, at a first impression, for the most part.

When you get to know someone on a deeper level, then its easy to make a call.

SILENTSAM69 · 2020-03-29T15:01:20+00:00

While it is true that looks can be deceiving these are more exceptions than the rule. One can still safely make assumptions and be right more often than wrong.

I've known innocent seeming girls that would frequent S&M clubs. I've known no girl to look slutty and be innocent though, but I am sure some exist.

The real fear some guys have of a relationship with a high n count woman is her likelihood to be faithful. Women are more successful at cheating than men, and so it's more of an underlying fear. Sure some men may also fear judgement of sexual performance, or size, if she has a wider range to judge from, but the main fear is about her faithfulness.

CentralAdmin · 2020-03-29T23:38:32+00:00

This is true. Which is why RP believes that modern women cannot be trusted to be honest with their N counts, hence treating them 'as if....' (awalt). They've also been burned by the innocent looking ones because they never realised she was the village bicycle until after they got married and were dead bedroomed. Some guys discovered that she actually enjoyed a variety of sex acts but with him, he gets starfish once a month. Hence the anger. Hence being red pilled.

ThimbleK96 · 2020-03-29T23:40:21+00:00

Oh yeah. Men only believe what they see. And quite fucking frankly they don’t even mind being lied to to fulfill a fantasy. They’re already lying to themselves the moment they look at you.

Boobear3 · 2020-03-29T17:01:02+00:00

Most if not all men have a severe madonna-whore complex. They think it's okay for them to be sexual deviants, get off on porn, have a high n count, and act like whores. They consider it fine because they're male and that those women, the ones they keep going to, are all whores. Conversely for a partner they want someone who's virgin pure, and looks like an angel. They will lie say and it's not true but it is. Their excuses are "well this woman is MY partner (property) I know her. All men have the incapability to view women as people, more as objects (brain scans proove this btw). That's why men are against their partners doing onlyfans, or porn, or being deviants, as they know how other men act and on some level know it's wrong, and it hurts their pride to know the woman their with had been viewed by other men in such away. They never make the connection that the (often trafficked and coerced) girls they see in porn, or the hookups they've went on, or their plates, are also someone's daughter, someone's sister, and someone's friend. Men are incapable of logical thought, and make all their judgements superficially. Not all women are the same, but a majority of men are.

Because of their inability to accept a more nuanced idea, they fall back into their awalt lies and deepen their madonna-whore complex. A self fulfilling prophecy, much like every other male trap.

TheJim66 · 2020-03-29T12:42:46+00:00

No, men have an aversion to INVESTING in sluts. You might notice a difference in behavior because while dressed like a sluts it appeared that these girls were sluts. By changing the look to a more classy one they stopped giving the immediate impression of being sluts.

Anyway outward appearance isn't the only way to find out if the chick is a slut. I would actually say it's not a very reliable one.

If the choice was a woman that just looked slutty vs a woman that was an actual slut but didn't look the part, the former has a higher RMV.

Clempot · 2020-03-29T17:17:21+00:00

Looks are an initial proxy of partner count. Once the man finds out the innocent seeming one is anything but, the truth is all the more disappointing. He will choose the non slut for long term commitment.

It bothers women than we can tell, in the end. The truth just pours of women eventually.

12112019 · 2020-03-29T17:59:55+00:00

You might have found a way to trick these men, by masking your self as a low N-count woman, it shouldn't work on RP men, but it could work on BP men who otherwise had a natural aversion to slutty behavior.

SpencerWS · 2020-03-29T18:44:34+00:00

Um, you’re ignoring the obvious here- what this means is that serious men are trying to avoid sluts, despite your pointing out that their methods are not adequate.

DaysAreCounted · 2020-03-29T20:21:41+00:00

For most of those cases, the cognitive dissonance in her behavior will eventually show up. I can agree some men will be slower at spotting it.

ElderlyAlder · 2020-03-29T20:28:58+00:00

I pretty much agree with everything except this part:

I try to see whether these signs hold any merit. They usually don't.

Obviously I can't disprove your experience in your personal social circle but the vast majority of the time if someone looks like a slut, she is a slut. The reverse is not quite as true but still usually holds.

_Neon_Shadow_ · 2020-03-31T01:17:39+00:00

My ex was an innocent looking slut and I was disgusted by her. My girlfriend is the opposite and its great. So I don't agree with this.

NeedingAdvice86 · 2020-03-29T14:32:03+00:00

Ah yes..the fantasy high n-count nun looking princess who presents as the compete opposite to every high n-count girl on the planet.

When I run across this unicorn, I will start looking for the Yeti because I will have become the greatest discoverer in the history of mankind.

-Siptah · 2020-03-29T16:12:18+00:00

True RP men know that looks can be deceiving. It’s about her actions at the end of the day.

MajIssuesCaptObvious · 2020-03-29T15:49:07+00:00

I can see your point, OP. I (M43) have made such assumptions in the past. Now I don't and judge based on my interaction with her, and I make my judgment on how she treats me, almost regardless of N count. The origin of her N count is really what matters. Was she overcoming abuse during her promiscuous past? Does she have a history of cheating? Is she only sexual with low quality, but attractive douchbags but vanilla and prudish with her relationship partners? Etc.

What I won't settle for is vanilla sex and to have to jump through hoops to sleep with her. I want her to want sex with me as much as I want sex with her, and I think that's fair.

I recently learned about Retroactive Jealousy OCD. This is a condition where jealousy occurs regarding someone's past, not necessarily their present. It occurs in men and women, and is a sign of insecurity and fear that someone from their past will come back and take their partner from them, or that they may revert to their past behavior. For a man in your hypothetical case, the now classy woman with a "slutty" past would still get judged harshly, maybe worse than the woman who is currently sexually adventurous.

crestind · 2020-03-29T15:59:47+00:00

Strippers do not necessarily have sex with clientele. Therefore they are not necessarily sluts. Your argument does not even have a solid premise.

LotBuilder · 2020-03-29T19:10:53+00:00

Lady in the streets but a freak in the sheets. It’s not complicated. That’s what guys want.

Side note, there is nothing worse than girls that wear the slut uniform but are not slutty. All they do is disappoint a lot of guys and then get dumped for false advertising.

zino193 · 2020-03-29T14:01:15+00:00

Interesting take. I will assume that the virgin is a real one, and not a catholic tehnically no vaginal penetration occured, and that the stripper really was those head on shoulders chicks that knew what she wanted and managed to enforce her boundaries despite the environment. But neither are usually the case, but that's not the most itneresting part of your post. This is:

> A woman that looks slutty signals to the other men that she was easy and hey they could probably get her with minimal effort so this guy must be quite low value/desperate that this was the best he could get and he chose to commit to her.

Basically, an innocent looking woman is a status symbol for men in the male social matrix. Give a guy the choice between a slutty looking woman with an n count of 2 OR a classy, modest looking woman with an n count of 20 and I guarantee he'll go for option b.

You are thinking of what WOMEN do - comparing boyfriends like we do dicks or cars. We generally don't. It's just lusty jealousy - maybe a competitive desire to fuck someone by fucking their girl. But we really don't see it as a measure of a man, what woman he has on his arms. But women do - that's the funny part. If a woman sees a dude with a tatooed stripper she assumes "Slut" and "whore monger" while if the woman is prim and proper she goes all: oh, "you look so cute together💕💕💖"

alluringjustice · 2020-03-29T12:54:00+00:00

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boatyscxslave · 2020-03-29T17:44:30+00:00

I don't think it's a status thing for men, it is a security and personal ego thing. If your girlfriend dresses slutty she will draw attention from aggressive flirty men, keeping you on guard for losing her. For the personal ego thing, dating a modestly dressing girl might make her seem more valuable.

dendritentacle · 2020-03-29T20:14:05+00:00

What has splitting bills got to do with promiscuity?

AntMan3298 · 2020-03-29T23:34:33+00:00

Can somebody tell me what N count means

AggravatingTartlet · 2020-03-30T00:06:32+00:00

I think you're onto something.

That's my experience, too.

Pugwhisper · 2020-03-30T00:52:52+00:00

I honestly enjoy looking at breasts and such but you know what I enjoy more than that? companionship

KazROFL · 2020-03-30T01:00:31+00:00

Are people here dumbasses or something.

Who the fuck dates people and doesn't know what they do until the third date? What kind of guy dates someone and doesn't care they're a stripper? I'm not saying it's impossible for a stripper to find someone that likes them and is a plastic surgeon, but throughout all of her dates NONE of them had a problem with her being a stripper? blah

RedPill_Dragon · 2020-03-30T01:22:15+00:00

There are always ways of finding out her N count. You simply need time and to ask indirectly. There are so many different ways to ask. All you really need to do is take time to know her, no sex first 90 days, and always be doing your own thing. Eventually, she will become comfy with you and start talking. You can also start to figure out how many other men are in her life also as I doubt that you are the only one.

There are women here who say that they will never reveal their N count. First off, directly no, indirectly yes, and the most you resist this point, the easier it is for us to estimate your number.

Aeiexgjhyoun_III · 2020-03-30T01:48:53+00:00

I think those guys would be extremely disappointed when they find out what she does for a living.

brackenz · 2020-03-30T03:39:22+00:00

The fake homely girl is something we're all aware of except for those dumb tradcons you see around

Thing is, just like "not everybody wearing hoodies is a thief but all thieves wear hoodies" not every girl who has tattoos, hair colour, revealing clothing, piercings, smoker, hoop earrings, swears, wears yoga pants is a slut, but all sluts do have some or a combination of that

The ones that went tradcon simply got rid of those things, but in this era its dead-easy to find out if a chick used to be the town's bicycle so thats a problem, why you think countries like france banned paternity tests? because of all the homely sluts getting ditched after francois found out the baby wasn't his

she told them she's a stripper on the third date and none of them have an immediate problem with it, they still didn't push sexual interactions on her

Seriously doubt that

She's now 26 and engaged to a 30-something year old plastic surgeon. She's still stripping because she loves her job

Is his name einstein? did everybody clap?

Men want to date women who appear pure and innocent because it boosts their status to other men

More like we think he's a pussy whipped beta who settled for whatever he could find. What gives you status is a trophy wife, a rich wife, or one that is famous/part of the elite

so this guy must be quite low value/desperate that this was the best he could get and he chose to commit to her.

That only happens if she got old and ugly, the archetypal whored-out slut trope. In reality if you got the sexy hot chick everybody even other women think you must have something special if she commited to you

grand_tiremaster · 2020-03-30T09:23:00+00:00

Can affirm. I’ve had one too many relationships starting at age 18 and now I am only 24. Plus a few flings. But I don’t have any telltale, physical high n-count red flags. No tattoos, no crazy piercings, no wild colored hair, I don’t dress scantily, I don’t frequent bars or social scenes. Most people wouldn’t even guess it by just looking at me. You should see people’s reactions when I tell them I used to be a pothead— utter disbelief, they think I am joking. Everyone sees me as the “nice girl”, even men. So naturally I don’t get so much disrespectful attention from men. They’re much nicer to me IRL.

My friends however, who have slept with less men than me, but show their boobies and booty with revealing clothing— get the honks from cars driving by, the elevator eyes, the guys whose jaws drop open, and the guys that want a piece. The reactions from people are dramatically different. Yes, my friends get approached more, but they also have to deal with creepers and yucky dudes a lot more than I do. But my friends know what they are doing and don’t have any shyness like I do. While their slutty looks is low value, their bubbly demeanor gets them places and they make connections better.

2020-03-30T16:55:03+00:00

Yes, we (men) are super visually constrained. My best strategy when dating was to go deeper than looks. That lead to many surprises, mostly good. Each person has their stuff.
I think most men are intimidated by looks. Insecure "slut" looks call for rude/direct, secure "sexy" (see how i changed and i visualize the same look) calls for respect, secure "traditional" calls for romancing.

kittykasbah · 2020-03-30T17:01:53+00:00

What is RMV?

Grand_Duty · 2020-03-30T18:09:57+00:00

Wow people treat you better if your dressed better. Who Knew?

It's like telling a black guy in America that if he sags his pants and where a doo rag that he will be profiled, but he wears a suit and nice tie, but he will still be profiled, but less.

Most people don't have tattoos, or nose rings. Etc.

It is easy to tell if you are actually want to get serious with a girl.

It's family life, hobbies, and friendships that give you an insight into her and it's easy to tell once you start paying attention, but most guys don't care as long as your hot and not annoying.

Which makes me laugh when women say dating is so hard!

astrobrah · 2020-03-30T20:02:46+00:00

You wrote a lot, but you're completely wrong in your view. The "slutty" looking woman may be JUDGED harder, but if everyone knew the truth about the two girls, the "slutty" looking one would DECIMATE in RMV

G77R23D · 2020-03-30T20:27:38+00:00

You're discussing outliers and trying to map those characteristics to the rest of the bell curve. The only applicability I'm seeing here is the "reformed slut" who gives it up for good as she readies to pair off with a guy for marriage.

You also gave no info about your slutty virgin friend, elaborate with a description of her looks and behaviors. And ages please.

vicistvic · 2020-03-31T22:02:59+00:00

The whore stripper got hitched by the plastic surgeon, and she is flashing herself for a buck! COOL STORY, BRO.

vicistvic · 2020-03-29T14:12:20+00:00

At the age of thirty years, the chaste woman will likely appear impressive and would likely develop a strong bond with her partner while the formerly sexually promiscuous woman is likely to suffer drastic loss of vitality and experience marital problems sooner or later.

alluringjustice · 2020-03-29T14:32:54+00:00

I don't care how she looks, if she was a former slut or casual dater, I won't commit.

wtknight · 2020-03-29T15:05:32+00:00

Most women like to talk. If a guy knows what he is doing, he can find ways to get even the conservative looking woman to tell her promiscuous stories from the past. Guys don't care how she looks. It's a plus to him if she looks hot and sexy, but has a low N, because he believes that she might be open to kinky things with him that she hasn't already done with some other guy.

It all boils down to instinctual paternity fear, not social perception of his girlfriend's promiscuity. I think that it's female solipsistic thinking to think that a man cares that much about what his girlfriend "signals to other men." This is what women care about with their boyfriends, as impressing their friends with their boyfriend is important to them. Relationship wise, men mostly care deep down that she is not going to cheat and cuckold him and make him raise someone other guy's child. The sexual appearance of the woman is not so important as this.

CDBaller · 2020-03-29T19:13:34+00:00

All these n count discussions always have guys talking about how they would never seriously date a high n woman and when questioned about how they could ever possibly know for sure how many men she's slept with, they'll pull out some absurd list of tell tale slut signs (tattoos, hair colour, revealing clothing, piercings, smoker, hoop earrings, swears, wears yoga pants... to list a few I've seen on here).

Yes, slut signs are a thing. If you don't enjoy a common reaction to your appearance (the first thing we look at), why appear like that? Am I really supposed to believe you go grocery shopping in yoga pants casually when I've seen you in meltdown over the color shirt you wear to hang with your friends? Spare me the bullshit.

It's got me thinking about myself and all the women I know that fall on various ends of the slut-spectrum, from virgins to strippers and I try to see whether these signs hold any merit. They usually don't. I have a virgin friend that fits most 'slut' stereotypes (but she is saving herself for marriage), I have a very slutty stripper friend who (outside of work, obviously) dresses and looks like a literal 50s housewife. She even has a baking channel on YoutTube where she wears pink aprons and makes cakes and cookies and cute little muffins.

So each must get something from her appearance.

What is the advantage of dressing like a slut? Being hit on by aggressive guys seems to be the obvious one for your first friend. If she viewed it as a downside, I doubt she would continue. Nevertheless, she supposedly holds the view of saving herself for marriage. Maybe dressing that way is a thrill? Could she get off from maintaining the moral high ground? Turning guys down flat? Maybe. In the end, it's a numbers game. She might enjoy it now, but perpetually playing with fire inevitably results in a burn.

Second one seems pretty straightforward. Most sluts want to feel as pretty and desirable as they did when they were virgins.

What holds true though, is that men treat them very differently based on their looks. These tell-tale signs of being a slut means my virgin friend keeps getting very sexually aggressive guys hitting on her, none of them believe she's a virgin, the dates these guys take her on are all cheap, she'll get called a slut occasionally. Stripper friend on the other hand got classy men, expensive dates, no one pushing her for sex. When she dated she told them she's a stripper on the third date and none of them have an immediate problem with it, they still didn't push sexual interactions on her. She's now 26 and engaged to a 30-something year old plastic surgeon. She's still stripping because she loves her job

What holds true is that men treat them differently and they each enjoy the way they are treated. Furthermore, it says that each enjoys the kind of men who hit one them. Based on your description, I'd say slutty virgin is probably the younger of the two, probably going through a bad boy phase or she'd be conservative and dress like 26 year old stripper and go to church. She's kidding herself right now because she doesn't know what's what and refuses to believe that she won't find some diamond in the rough.

26 year old stripper's attitude is much more common as women age. Sounds like she bagged herself a beta bux if he believes she just loves her job. Good for her.

I noticed this by myself from my own life experiences as well. I was a virgin into the alternative scene and checked off most things on the slut lists. I am now all natural and have a new found love for girly, feminine clothing and wear heels often, long skirts, pink accessories, flowers weaved in my hair. The change in type of male attention I started receiving was mind blowing. And I am definitely not an innocent virgin anymore. Since this appearance change, I haven't had a problem with any man waiting a while for sex because from the get-go, they assume that I am the type to make them wait. There has been no asking to split bills. The quality of dates increased. No questions about my sexual history.

Enjoy. The Wall comes for you all.

I don't think that men have an aversion to sluts -

We have a variety of opinions on the subject. Many of us appreciate sluts so we're not buying occasional sex for 18 years of monthly payments.

I think men have an aversion to women who look like sluts.

Did you not just say that your friend gets hit on aggressively by cheap, low class guys? It would follow that cheap, low class guys appreciate outward sluts.

Men want to date women who appear pure and innocent because it boosts their status to other men -

You're applying female values to men. It doesn't work that way with us. About half of us could give a flying fuck what anyone else thinks of us. Career (for example, it's not the be-all, end-all) is more of a source of status than who we fuck ever could be. Arm candy can be taken, career and body require years of work, day-in and day-out and neither can be stolen.

they know what/how other men think and if she has the Madonna look going, other men are going to assume that she has been patiently waiting for the right man, that she was hard to get and that this guy must be great to be able to land her.

HVMs will not wonder this. These are the thoughts of a sexless beta or incel who still believes he can earn sex. HVMs know that no amount of bargaining will ever lead to attraction. Either she is attracted to him, or she is not. He is the Keeper of the relationship.

A woman that looks slutty signals to the other men that she was easy and hey they could probably get her with minimal effort so this guy must be quite low value/desperate that this was the best he could get and he chose to commit to her.

If he's smart, he hasn't. She's just on his arm tonight. The relationship is in a moment by moment state of flux and he can fling her aside for the next girl to come through the door. A slutty woman says nothing about the guy other than that he wants easy sex tonight. Most guys do and don't judge each other for it.

Basically, an innocent looking woman is a status symbol for men in the male social matrix. Give a guy the choice between a slutty looking woman with an n count of 2 OR a classy, modest looking woman with an n count of 20 and I guarantee he'll go for option b.

He'll go for option C: neither, if he's a traditional HVM with sufficient information.

Obviously, he'll never have full information, which is why Slut Signals are a thing. Option B is common, but hard to ferret out without full information. So we look at small details based on our own experience. Whether they're right or not doesn't actually matter because it all comes down to perception. If a female wants a relationship, she has to manage that perception, hence why she might dress conservatively when hunting a conservative HVM.

Option A is a unicorn. It doesn't exist commonly. She is a girl who hasn't had enough experience to get tired of sexually aggressive men hitting on her or to realize she enjoys sexually aggressive men. She's not a true option, she's just in a limbo of choice which she will fall out of as soon as she makes one.

Men make a lot of judgments based on appearance.

Yes. We are visual creatures with rudimentary relationship skills that we supplement with our senses.

A woman who looks right will receive a lot of lenience in things he considers deal-breakers/red flags as opposed to one who has every single green flag in the book but gives off the wrong impression with her appearance.

Yes, but if he is smart, it will not last. But this is the importance of appearance. If you're seeking the kind of man who wouldn't date a slut, why dress like a slut? It's a lot more satisfying to go to the effort to have all the green flags and the right appearance than to dig for a man who will waste his energy trying to prove that you're more than you appear.

Jip_Jaap_Stam · 2020-03-29T15:49:08+00:00

I don't give a shit about what other people think; I care about the truth. If a woman's had more than a handful of casual sex partners, I wouldn't be interested, no matter how conservatively she dresses or appears. This might filter out some otherwise decent girls, but if I were single, I wouldn't be so desperate for a female in my life that I'd drop my standards.

bonusfruit · 2020-03-29T16:26:17+00:00

The idea that some women aren't high n count needs to die. Awalt needs to be the default. The few low n count women are causing a needless spike in male hope and thirst levels

Luisd858 · 2020-03-29T14:26:17+00:00

I would pick B because she doesn’t APPEAR slutty and then society will judge you for being with a slut. Also more experienced in bed which I would like because she’s more adventurous probably. But then again A would be good too because she has a low count, is less jaded, mileage and less chance of STD. A woman should be a mix of both A and B for her man

reluctantly_red · 2020-03-29T15:33:58+00:00

I don't think that men have an aversion to sluts - I think men have an aversion to women who look like sluts.

Men don't have an aversion to either.

Willow-girl · 2020-03-29T16:22:13+00:00

My baby makes me proud Lord, don't she make me proud She never makes a scene By hangin' all over me in a crowd

'Cause people like to talk Lord, don't they love to talk But when they turn out the lights I know she'll be leavin' with me

And when we get behind closed doors Then she lets her hair hang down And she makes me glad that I'm a man Oh, no one knows what goes on behind closed doors

My baby makes me smile Lord, don't she make me smile She's never far away Or too tired to say "I want you"

She's always a lady Just like a lady should be But when they turn out the lights She's still a baby to me

'Cause when we get behind closed doors Then she lets her hair hang down And she makes me glad I'm a man Oh, no one knows what goes on behind closed doors Behind closed doors

Title	An 'innocent' looking high n woman has more RMV than a 'slutty' looking low n woman
Author	alluringjustice
Upvotes	210
Comments	311
Date	March 29, 2020 12:26 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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