Many women have inflated their standards to a point that is unreasonable. That said, even if a woman were to avoid OLD and social media, and try to keep her expectations as reasonable as possible based on innate biology and historic norms, is it possible that far more men are below even a reasonable female attraction floor than was the case in the past?
Look at what has happened to men, as well as men relative to women:
- Massive amounts of porn use
- Video games
- More men living with their parents
- A massive drop in male testosterone and sperm levels
- A huge increase in male obesity
- An increase in marijuana usage, which tends to make men more passive than drinking
- Men are underperforming in school, relative to past male performance and especially relative to women
- More male depression and succumbing to negative emotions
- A general feminizing of men including a lot more men gender bending
The list goes on and on. It's true that women as whole may well have contributed to all this. But from the perspective of an individual woman, it doesn't matter who is to blame. That doesn't change what is available or what a reasonable and normal woman can be attracted to.
It's true that women are doing better than ever economically, but that doesn't mean an individual woman can change her hypergamous need for a superior man.
And above all, it may be true that women have less to offer men than they did in the past. But as TRP likes to remind us, men and women have different attraction floor dynamics. Whatever women are doing or not doing, men still want them, as can be seen by the number of incels complaining about not being able to get even today's 'bad' women.
So I'm wondering if all this advice to women to have realistic standards is no longer that useful. Sure, it will help and is good advice per se. But whatever its cause, whoever is to blame, gender dysfunction has now gone too far. Far too many men no longer meet even reasonable female attraction standards. Thus we should not expect women to have sex with them and rising male sexlessness is totally reasonable until men somehow improve across the board.
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My favourite thing ever was a speech by Emma Watson, think it was addressing the UN, saying men need to be more feminine and whatnot (I paraphrase, but it was definitely masculinity = bad though). Whilst dating a rugby player. LOL
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I agree with most of your post but not this. I think most men would love an LTR. the marriage rates are dropping cause (more) men realize it's a terrible deal for them, not cause they don't want an ltr.
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Neither of these besides #4 and #5 are unattractive to women.
Women don’t know how much porn a man consumes when she meets him.
Same as 1, except Women play video games too.
Women expect men to be living with parents until 23+, If anything it’s more that men aren’t as proactive in dating because they know they can’t bring her back home.
Women also smoke weed, a ton of it, this isn’t unattractive. This is a massive bonus if you’re attracting women who smoke.
Class/Money is basically a non-issue, as long as you’re not in debt, paying bills, and have a comfortable life and a car, how much a man makes matters very little besides to attract gold-diggers.
Women don’t know you’re depressed until long after you’ve been dating.
This effects less than 5% of men, it’s a non issue.
Almost every bad thing you’ve pointed out, a ton of my mates fall under, yet they’re dating a bunch of women just fine with 0 issues.
As someone who’s never been in a relationship yet only falls under #2, these lists always make me laugh and go against anything remotely related to reality.
On paper I should be drowning in pussy since I pass 8/9 of these, yet in reality that’s far from the truth. Then you look at my mates and on paper they fall under like 7/9 of these issues yet are easily dating women.
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