The redpill was created because the blue pill approach to dating was seemingly not working. However men being non-commital and applying redpill tactics are exactly the men FDS women say they want to avoid. If one were to believe them then one would be led to believe that the traditional bluepill approach to dating is what would work on women. What do you guys think is going on here? It's not like men were born with a natural aversion to dinner dates. If anything the men who are vehemently opposed to these seem to have started off with the default setting of being 'beta' and taking women out to the most expensive dates/ restauarants they can afford. Why didn't think work but now it's expected to work? Are 'bad' men and women ruining it for everyone?