Are women on dating apps truly the 30+, post-wall “leftovers” generally speaking when we’re in the middle of a covid resurgence?

SmurfESmurferson · 2021-08-02T19:42:27+00:00

OLD is like porn: great in addition to a sex/dating life that involves interacting with others IRL. Not a substitute for it

jax006 · 2021-08-02T20:04:28+00:00

No there are plenty of decent quality women on OLD, almost every attractive woman I know has used it at least at some point

Keep in mind guys on TRP are not there because they're super attractive, thus why they talk about the leftovers they get on OLD which is more or less an exclusive attractive people's club

TheBookOfSeil · 2021-08-02T19:39:00+00:00

They're not even 30's post wall leftovers. There are lots of types of women and people on dating apps.

It's not about who is on a dating app at any one time, but whether they're perpetually on dating apps that signals a problem. If a woman is perpetually single despite being in and out of relationships or not, that's a yellow flag.

The ones who can find and maintain relationships might be on dating apps for a short time but then they're off again for a long time once they find that compatible partner.

heyitsjeape · 2021-08-02T19:11:34+00:00

I have no idea (it’s been well over 10 years). I’ll never use online dating or a dating app again. Talking to females on there was an exercise in futility.

AidsVictim · 2021-08-02T20:04:04+00:00

Most single people over 30, dating app or no, are either divorced with baggage or are "leftovers" of either gender.

svenshapiro · 2021-08-02T19:35:45+00:00

The women on dating apps are just normal women. They come in all ages, shapes and sizes.

AntifaSuperSwoledier · 2021-08-02T20:36:30+00:00

OP, from the recent survey 30% of posters here have never had sex and 70% are not in relationships. TRP men are not the relationship understanders. Men who literally cannot get a woman to touch their pp but say women are fat/ugly/old/the wall/etc are just doing the sour grapes fallacy.

Edit - OLD is probably a really good place to avoid these types of people too since they've written OLD off completely as being dominated by Chads.

Pastelitomaracucho · 2021-08-02T21:19:34+00:00

I possess none of those traits

You're 24

Algoresball · 2021-08-02T23:32:10+00:00

It depends on where you are. Dating over 30 in NYC is normal. In the bible belt most people are married in their very early 20s

Tieflingering · 2021-08-02T19:09:57+00:00

Red pill men have traits that put them in the same dating tier as the single moms and overweight women. The algorithm has placed them far away from the younger attractive women they want because the app knows those women will leave the app if they’re shown these undesirable red pill men.

It’s a hard truth for lots of these men to swallow. You’d think with so many of them in STEM/IT (though many TRP men I've seen are in the trades and very insecure about it) they would know how technology and apps work but alas…

Edit: check the replies for insecure RP men in trades lol

M4sterDis4ster · 2021-08-02T19:11:31+00:00

OLD is actually full of fucked up guys (70% of users). That would be my biggest issue in your place.

I would still highly suggest meeting other men through friends or common interests (look at your 2 main problems).

Anyway, if all women are old, fat, single moms it just gives you upper hand everywhere.

SonicBackScratcher · 2021-08-02T19:15:35+00:00

Covid, the excuse that just keeps on giving for failure.

Have a hot body, show it off, see a cute guy, take a sip of water since drinking and eating prevents covid spread apparently (lol) so you can give him a look at your face. Make eye contact.

Life, life finds a way.

Murphysmongoose · 2021-08-02T19:39:36+00:00

I don't wanna go slinging negative name calling at women on dating apps in general... but will say I'll never use dating apps again. I've learned I'm better off just finding them through normal social media.

Just stalk his profile like you normally do, and actually like something he posted. You're a woman, so this will never be taken as creepy. He'll take bait if he's remotely interested and not a wussy, and flirt back in some or same ways.

Also agree you can pull the damn mask down at him. If you think you might could kiss him, breathing the same air as him for a quick sec is probably an acceptable risk for a start.

ex_red_black_piller · 2021-08-02T22:03:10+00:00

Tinder is a dumpster fire. Just the most undesirable women on the planet congregate there.

upalse · 2021-08-02T22:56:00+00:00

If I smile at one, he may not pick up on the slight squinting of my eyes.

Just take a page from the Trump book and grab one you like by their crotch.

BarestBranch · 2021-08-03T04:57:48+00:00

OLD is completely mainstream nowadays. Everybody’s on it.

TotalTravesty · 2021-08-02T19:17:38+00:00

I see so much content from RP gurus

Found the problem.

But seriously, to answer the question in your header, if you’re attractive you’re attractive and won’t have a hard time getting dates, even in your dreaded 30s.

To answer the question the body of your post, dating while masked must be all sorted of messed up and I’m sorry to hear that. OLD may be the answer just because there are more men than women there.

As for other non-verbal cues you can give while masking, have you considered the tone of voice you use when talking to guys you’re interested in? You can hear enthusiasm and engagement even if you can’t fully see it (I think that’s why some girls wanted to talk to me on the phone pre-first date). Also, eye contact is very valuable. If you’ve ever seen someone’s eyes “smile” you know how much can be communicated even if you’re wearing a mask. There’s just so much that we can say without our mouths.

NockerJoe · 2021-08-02T20:02:30+00:00

As a woman so long as you aren't morbidly obese, aren't pregnant or a mother, and keep your account reasonably sane looking you should always have some kind of options.

Yes, you do get "leftovers" on apps. Some profiles will show up again and again for months or years on end as their users fail to find a partner. Women usually only really get there if they fall i to one of the above categoties though. I don't know enough about male profiles to make a judgement on them but I know the male equivalents exist.

michael1962-01 · 2021-08-02T19:21:16+00:00

If you have a reasonable body it is easy to get a great number of contacts.

Thing is - what are your goals?

How would you filter?

In real life there's a thing like a 'spark'

Nothing like it in OLD

Bandit174 · 2021-08-02T20:10:15+00:00

I think dating apps skew younger actually so there are probably more 20 year olds than 30+.

I think some guys might be unlucky and disproportionately match with older single moms but I don't think that most women on the apps fall into those demographics

However, I do believe the stereotypes about most women on those apps being promiscuous and primarily sending nudes and hooking up with men in the 7+/10 range.

So I think the apps work best for hot guys who want to have a lot of sex with a wide variety of women and for average looking or better women who want to have sex with those hot guys.

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Anantha1996 · 2021-08-02T19:20:23+00:00

"I see so much content from RP gurus about how all the women on OLD are old, fat, single moms, or have some other dealbreaking undesirable trait"

Is this true? I follow some TRP creators but never seen this. I have heard that bars and clubs are better than OLD because they require less effort.

Also from what I gathered post wall doesn't mean leftover in the sense that no one wants them but rather the people they want and used to want them in return no longer want them.

Personally OLD is if you don't have a large enough social circle to find dates from. People avoid shitty behavior if their social reputation is at stake, dating friends of friends acts as a pretty good filter for me.

Taipanshimshon · 2021-08-02T19:38:15+00:00

OLD is a shit show for both genders where I am tbh

Also In person if you want to get a particular man to talk to you make eye contact then look down then catch his eyes again

gkom1917 · 2021-08-02T21:25:10+00:00

you can’t see people’s whole faces and fully assess their attractiveness

Video call before a date. Problem solved.

you may not know someone is giving you a smile

Smile obvious most of the time; if it's genuine then it shows of in the facial expression. Honestly I never had a problem with recognizing non verbal clues for the last year.

how all the women on OLD are old, fat, single moms

Obviously not true.

I want to use OLD because right now it’s hard to meet men otherwise

Also not true.

LeJacquelope · 2021-08-02T21:28:20+00:00

I see so much content from RP gurus about how all the women on OLD are old, fat, single moms, or have some other dealbreaking undesirable trait (not that women with the aforementioned traits are undesirable to everyone).

I just want to ask OK... imagine if all you had to choose from were short men with sunken chins. Would you still be in the market for a mate?

Christian_Kong · 2021-08-02T21:51:37+00:00

I am not really getting any connection between your problem and the question about 30 somethings but.......

There is a very good chance if you are a 30+ woman who has a lot to offer, without a lot of baggage, you are in the top 3% or so of women of that age group. It's not that crazy that the best of us get snatched up at a younger age.

You are 24 so you will likely have too many options.

Playful_Art_5364 · 2021-08-02T22:02:39+00:00

Nah it’s back to normal and usually college chicks (my age range)

CosbysSpecialSauce · 2021-08-02T22:13:17+00:00

Keep making these excuses and your transformation will be complete in 6 years.

SunHatGoddess · 2021-08-02T22:15:31+00:00

RP gurus

Have you taken an actual look at any of those short, balding, beanie wearing angry toads? Just do what you want and don’t worry about it. You’ll find someone. Just say yes to every invite.

UnMascd · 2021-08-02T23:22:22+00:00

You sure like asking questions u/questionasker012

BeepBeepSaysTheJeep · 2021-08-03T05:41:11+00:00

Have these guys pushing the idea of "the wall" even seen women in their 30s who take care of themselves?

xFallacyx69 · 2021-08-03T14:11:38+00:00

OLD is for hooking up with shallow/lazy chicks… are all women who use it shallow/lazy? No… just the vast majority… which is 15% or something crazy.

Don’t compete for these chicks lol

BettyX · 2021-08-03T15:03:58+00:00

Just want to throw in men over 30 aren't looking that great either, many of them are overweight, out of shape, fat, single dads and a hot mess. People over 30 are often fat, out of shape, stressed and messed up, married multiple times with kids.

SwinginPastMyKnees_ · 2021-08-04T22:46:37+00:00

Your experience will likely depend on geography. The last time I used OLD, it was like finding a needle in a haystack. About 90% of the women had something offputting about them (e.g., single mother, obese, broke, childish/entitled, heavily tattooed). After filtering them out, OLD became a bit of a barren wasteland.

Your experience will likely be the opposite. You'll get swamped with likes/messages from weirdos. My current gf told me of some "colorful" guys she met before her and I met.

Title	Are women on dating apps truly the 30+, post-wall “leftovers” generally speaking when we’re in the middle of a covid resurgence?
Author	questionasker012
Upvotes	5
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Date	August 2, 2021 7:04 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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