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CMV: Being nice to women is the golden ticket to pussy

October 30, 2020
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[–]Mrs_DrgreeMarried to Automod[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (2 children) | Copy Link

Removed for OP abandonment

[–]iny_m12 points13 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

There is a catch.. And i’ve learned this from experience..

I’m mid-twenties. I’ve dated 30 year old women and most of them had dated asshole men and had traumatic brain damage / personality disorders that will never go away.

I stayed with one of these women for a year or so.. guess what ?

They get bored and tired of you because you’re a nice beta buxx. They start to go back to craving the asshole chad and want an alpha with better sex and everything that comes along with. They start to not respect you as a man anymore.. AKA dual-mating strategy.

So, as for your point, it’s half true. Women do get eventually tired and want to find a nice beta guy. But after a year or so, they go back to their roots and want that Chad Chasing rush again.

Anyone else notice this ?

[–]Cimorene8634F Masculine Egalitarian Gamer-1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

No. Why would anyone want to go back to being hurt? That's the opposite of a survival mechanism. You find a good man, you keep him in your life. If it comes down to "better sex", it would be easier to tell your current boyfriend what kind of sex you're into and spice things up in the bedroom, than to end that relationship and have to start from square 1 again.

[–]Throughawayman80808Love is a labour 🤗😒1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Because they don't want to be treated well. Lots of women are open about the fact that they can't respect men who reciprocate love.

[–]Cimorene8634F Masculine Egalitarian Gamer-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

That makes no sense. Who are these "lots of women"? Any of them here?

[–]Throughawayman80808Love is a labour 🤗😒1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It's not that uncommon for a woman to lose interest once interest has been reciprocated. You've seriously never heard of this?

[–]Cimorene8634F Masculine Egalitarian Gamer-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Of course I've heard of it, but it's something that happens in relationships where the spark has been lost. Not healthy, vibrant relationships where interest doesn't wane. And certainly not immediately or recently after, it usually takes time for that to happen. Unless I'm misunderstanding you, it sounds like you're talking about a new relationship suddenly going from a fire to dying embers in just a few months.

[–]Throughawayman80808Love is a labour 🤗😒1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Most of what I'm referring to is before a relationship has begun.

[–]Cimorene8634F Masculine Egalitarian Gamer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

In that case, I admit to being rather lost and having neither heard of this nor experiencing it.

[–]trueorfalsedmitryred despite the handle7 points8 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

I understand your reasoning here, to a point. But, it is far more complex than you make it out to be.

Women love assholes. No matter what kind of rationalizations you see bandied about here, there is no reasonable way to deny this. One of the most popular ways to try to sidestep this fact is to say that "doormats" and "losers" mistake confidence and not being a doormat for being an asshole. No. That's simply not it.

Women like men who take up space: physically, socially, mentally, and dominance-wise. The only way for a human being to be all this in modern society is to be a first-class asshole. Someone that no rational being would want to associate with or be around, unless they have to (or feel they have to). That's why assholes have "friends."

But, yes, women respond by melting around men who are assholes to "the world," but are nice to her. Works like catnip. This niceness to her is not authentic in the least and is completely performative. But, it is kept semi-private and is not ostentatious.

Unless you are a sociopath, walking this bizarre tightrope is utterly fucking exhausting. It requires so much effort. But, it will get your dick wet.

So: yes, acting nice to women after you've been a complete asshole is worth it.

[–]mae19951111 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This niceness to her is not authentic in the least and is completely performative.

Women are well aware of it. They say 'he's nice to me and that's all that matters'.

[–]throw-away-17090 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is so true.

[–]Cimorene8634F Masculine Egalitarian Gamer-1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Women like men who take up space: physically, socially, mentally, and dominance-wise. The only way for a human being to be all this in modern society is to be a first-class asshole.

Not true. You can be a charming, excited, slightly childish extrovert who attracts people and attention to himself with his warm and energetic personality. You take up space not by demanding it, but by being given it by others because they see you're making use of it. People are drawn to you because you have a loud and unique personality that they can't help but notice, because it's like a splash of color in a gray world.

One of my most treasured memories of my FWB is when we were flying out to Arizona and as we're taking the long trek to our terminal, the Footloose song comes on over the PA. And of course he starts dancing along, rolling his luggage around like a dance partner. And he's not Kevin Bacon by any stretch of the imagination, but he was in theater during high school and his impromptu performance is pretty good. He's having fun, and people are smiling and laughing, and yes it's a bit weird to randomly dance in an airport...but damn, if seeing him just enjoying himself always makes my heart feel warm and glowing. He's the kind of guy that if a spotlight isn't around, he'll just create one.

THAT is how you take up space in the modern world without ever being an asshole.

[–]windowsfrozenshut0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

You just proved the guy's point. That's why he's your FWB and not your boyfriend!

[–]Cimorene8634F Masculine Egalitarian Gamer0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

No, he's my FWB because neither of us wants to deal with a committed and/or cohabiting relationship. It's been 11 years...if I wanted more from him than friendship and sex, I'd have moved on by now. But why stray away from perfection?

[–]windowsfrozenshut0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Jesus.. 11 years? Why are you scared of committing to the guy?

[–]Cimorene8634F Masculine Egalitarian Gamer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

...I'm not. And he's not. I just said neither of us want it.

We are friends. We have the same interests and hobbies. We enjoy hanging out and going on trips or playing games. We also enjoy different types of sex, but I don't want to risk getting pregnant and he/I don't want to risk STDs. We don't want to live together. We don't want to share finances. We don't want to meet each others family. We don't want to get married or have kids. We don't want to make life decisions together.

Great friendship + great sex + no commitment = perfect relationship for both of us. All the good, none of the bad.

[–]trueorfalsedmitryred despite the handle-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

He's the kind of guy that if a spotlight isn't around, he'll just create one.

If I were asked to provide a pithy definition of "asshole," I could hardly do better than this. You also make clear this was not "out of character" for him.

This guy's an asshole.

[–]Cimorene8634F Masculine Egalitarian Gamer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, because telling jokes, dancing, singing, and just generally being a entertaining person is definitely synonymous with being an asshole. Of course. How could I forget this secret definition...🤣🤣🤣

[–]SteveSan824 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Bullshit. Any guy who is married can tell you women hate even that shit.

I have to act like I dont care just so my wife will stay interested. The moment I start acting like I care about random shit, she gets distant and bitchy

[–]Cimorene8634F Masculine Egalitarian Gamer0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Why did you marry her? I'm assuming she has other qualities that make up for it.

[–]SteveSan820 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Women are different while dating. They play a good game to tie you down. But Omce you marry its gone. They got the marriage license. They can be their true selves

[–]Cimorene8634F Masculine Egalitarian Gamer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I definitely agree and men can do this too. That's why I do not recommend marriage for the most part

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Eventually women get tired of being treated like shit, like options, or a wet hole. THAT'S when they make the switch to preferring nice guys.

....Conveniently around age 30 when their looks are in the shitter and their fertility is declining.

Around age 30 when their looks and fertility starts declining rapidly and their biological clock ticks, that’s when they start scrambling for a beta (who they would never have given the time of day previously) for commitment and stability for a better child rearing environment.

If women’s good looks lasted till age 50, they’d spend ages 18-50 chasing Chads and only settle for a beta after age 50

The fact that women go into beta hunting mode around age 30, which is the very moment when their looks and fertility start to decline, confirms this.

So no, her preferences didn’t change, her options did.

Women love the emotional rollercoaster that assholes give. They’re not tired of it at all. The prefer it. They only switch to nice guys for the reasons explained above.

[–]throw-away-17090 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Telling to break up at 17:00 fucking the brains dead at 19:30 in tears crying 'do you really love me' at 21:00 initiating at 0:45 'i'll castrate you if you do not fuck me hard and now!'

That is the female in full lust and love.

You think arranging flowers and buying furniture will give her same heavy feels?

Crazy idea.

Listen to the ballad of lucy jordan.

[–]Cimorene8634F Masculine Egalitarian Gamer0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

That doesn't sound like a red flag, it sounds like a goddamn parade of flag twirlers.

[–]throw-away-17090 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

As long as it is the cheerleader who is twirling - who cares?

[–]Cimorene8634F Masculine Egalitarian Gamer0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Didn't realize you were okay with getting a 9 in looks who is also a 9 in batshit insane...That's some bad math, my dude. Can't possibly end well.

[–]throw-away-17090 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Life doesn't end well. Not my first ltr...

A 9 in looks and a 9 in bed. Who needs more?

A 9 for the fun and drama. A 10 for intelligence and dominance.

Would you go for less?

[–]Cimorene8634F Masculine Egalitarian Gamer0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't like drama whatsoever, and there's no guarantee a 9 in looks will be a 9 in bed or a 9 for fun. You might essentially get a living Real Doll.

[–]throw-away-17090 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It was a description. Not a wish.

[–]SeemedGood2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes, women do tire of being treated indifferently by the men they truly lust after and some (maybe most) even eventually settle for a man who is nice to them.

But they never lust after that man.

Is that the guy you want to be?

If so, more power to you. But that guy’s life, sucks.

[–][deleted]  (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Mrs_DrgreeMarried to Automod[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Be civil

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

AFTER they love assholes. This is simply another form of AF/BB.

Eventually women get tired of being treated like shit, like options, or a wet hole. THAT'S when they make the switch to preferring nice guys. After they have become bitter and damaged from past relationships.

Older, and thus uglier, AND more psychologically fucked up? Sounds more like an outcome to be avoided!

[–]Cimorene8634F Masculine Egalitarian Gamer0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Unfortunately it sounds like a lot of men too...😒

Older, uglier, and emotionally/mentally damaged by bitches. 😔

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh sure, but as you say men as a whole are the ones in need of higher standards women already know to avoid that which is not in their best interest

[–]Cimorene8634F Masculine Egalitarian Gamer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Who cares about those kinds of women though?

Men should have standards. Women should have standards. If Man A and Women A have opposing standards, they should part ways.

If Man A and Woman Z look at each others standards and decide "hey, I'm in favor of these" then they'll be together.

The point is to not settle and be miserable.

[–]throw-away-17091 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women are into winners.

Nice guys finish last. Everywhere.

The bold ones win.

[–]KirthWGersen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You can be an arsehole and also be nice.

I really like people, some more than others. Especially people who are quite different to me, take risks I wouldn't take, see the world in a different way. So I have many friends, men and women, and I genuinely care about them, engage intimately with them and help them out when I can.

But I often also get called an arsehole. Women call me that when I won't do what they want right now, when I make my own decisions on my own terms. It is frustrating for them, but that frustration creates sexual attraction.

I learned this from my mother: the less compliant I was, the more she respected me.

It is all part of being coherent as a person: being kind but not being a walkover. Your efforts only have value when you do them because you want to, not out of fear, obligation or guilt.

[–]Cimorene8634F Masculine Egalitarian Gamer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

As I've said before, every woman I know has been cheated on, or has had a toxic relationship in the past. Most women have had a bad relationship or two... or three. Eventually women get tired of being treated like shit, like options, or a wet hole. THAT'S when they make the switch to preferring nice guys. After they have become bitter and damaged from past relationships.

Really? Every woman you've ever known has dated assholes? Not a single one has been able to vet for that trait by date 2 or 3, before it turns into anything? None of them have ever had a good relationship as their first one? I don't know, man...think this is either bullshit or you were lied to. That sounds statistically impossible.

Listen, I know I'm weird/atypical but if even my autistic ass can figure out within the first couple dates if someone is an asshole or not, then there's pretty much no reason a normal woman can't do the same. And that's when you stop going out with them, not after a few months, irrationally hoping they'll "change" because that never happens. The entire reason I've had the same FWB for as long as I have is because he's a genuinely good person and one of us would need to suffer severe brain damage to change our relationship toxic.

The only way your assertion makes sense is if you're including ALL damaging relationships in a woman's past, not just romantic ones. Like, abusive/toxic/damaging "relationships" with fathers and stepfathers that occur during childhood and allow her to see very early on what a shit man looks like, so she knows exactly what to avoid as a teen or adult. Her involuntary/automatic familial male relationships are assholes, so when she has voluntary/romantic relationships she deliberately avoids any man with a hint of that stench.

In that case...then yeah, I'd say you're right. But if that's not something you're taking into account, and you're saying woman are actively, romantically attracted to assholes, then gonna have to say that's incorrect.

[–]Throughawayman80808Love is a labour 🤗😒0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is literally just AF/BB LOL. You've literally just said what most of TRP is saying but added that these nice guys will be rewarded, they won't. Not only are you going to see a lack of sex as a result of being settled for but also a lack of affection and intimacy.

[–]thetruthishere_0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Correction. Broken women love a holes.

[–]mae19951112 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

All women are broken though so using the term broken is superfluous.

[–]thetruthishere_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No they are not.

[–]SaBahRub0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Here’s the thing about nice guys vs assholes: women know you’re only nice to us to get pussy. So we don’t want anything to do with that, to avoid being accused of the dreaded “leading him on”

After all that conditional simping, grudging attention feels like a breath of fresh air.

We know men aren’t saints, and how can you prostrate yourselves for us when you don’t know anything about us? It’s ludicrous. We’re not queens; we’re flawed humans. That pedestal is scary

[–]trueorfalsedmitryred despite the handle-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

We know men aren’t saints, and how can you prostrate yourselves for us when you don’t know anything about us? It’s ludicrous. We’re not queens; we’re flawed humans. That pedestal is scary

This is authentic and true.

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[–]Ercole_ʇlɐʍɐ0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm nice to everyone I don't love because who cares and I'm harsh those close to me because I care. My girl loves it when I can control this but I think the key here is that I have something to control.

[–]8017350 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women love assholes, we know this.

Define age range, plz. Because it matters. Be honest.

Being a lame, beta, simp, without a backbone doesn't get you a girl either.

But, as theory goes, it does get a "grandma" a you, doesn't it?, according to fartticles written by shrivelingupeggsmales, no? Awwwwww. LOL

backbone

When was the last time you observed this IRL? How does it matter?

But if women love nice guys and assholes, isn't that contradictory?

Nope. It's sexonomics. How do you explain freezing eggs, btw?

but genuine concern for her physical, mental, and all-around well being

Define the point in time that "genuine" is being defined within. LOL

ATM - Attention, Time, Money

AF/BB

Is a currently "MSM"-ally soy-shall cuntstruck. Not to disparage decent (whatever that is) interaction, but what are you talking about? So "sluts" can freely "slut" until "where have all the good men gone"? How about "we kinda, you know, swam through the shit creek together, which made me and him more us, you know? I do my part, s/he does hers/his, and here we are."

But if women love nice guys and assholes, isn't that contradictory?

When was the last time you heard/read about the author of a fartvagrticle being severely publicly punished for their "work"? To compensate, when was the last time you read about a manosphere manrticle being NOT femtradbellished? What happened to the quotas?

So yes, being nice to women is completely worth it.

Nope. Being "nice" to exclusively yourself will drown you. XP talking. Femalespace is absolutely desperate, devastated. Take a look around IRL and you'll see ghosts and ghostesses.

To put it bluntly, the question "Where have all the good men gone?" question has been answered. I'll leave you to get to your own conclusions.

[–]MACMUAPurple Pill Woman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I like genuine men. The man who is the good guy even when no one is looking. These type of are almost ALWAYS nice.

It’s true nice men turn women on. some jerks really need to humble themselves. A lot of men are cocky and it’s a turn off

[–]merlinscalculator0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You guys complicate this too much. The ideal man is a hot nice guy. Next is a hot asshole. Next is an ugly nice guy. Finally an ugly asshole.

A hot simp who only simps for you is the goal

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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