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CMV: Women with high body counts are not marriage material and nice guys are not attractive.

May 24, 2019
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Men are the gatekeepers of commitment, as such, they dictate what is marriage material and what is not. Because most men are disgusted by and unwilling to commit to loose women, it stands to reason that they are not marriage material and would make undesirable wives.

The same logic applies to women.

Women are the gatekeepers of sex, as such, they decide what characteristics are attractive and warrants access to their bodies. Being a nice guy is not one of them. Women are attracted to masculine men.

No amount of hurt feelings on the part of undesirable men or slutty women will change this fact. This doesn't mean they can't find someone willing to have sex with them or commit. It just means that they are viewed as inferior or lacking by the opposite sex.

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Title CMV: Women with high body counts are not marriage material and nice guys are not attractive.
Author _Neon_Shadow_
Upvotes 3
Comments 75
Date May 24, 2019 10:09 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit /r/PurplePillDebate
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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (29 children) | Copy Link

Without judging, how do you know if a woman has a high body count or not?

[–]Ziczor 1 points [recovered]  (10 children) | Copy Link

she looks like this

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Lol that's a guy

[–]ThePiperMan0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Sources?

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

You want a "source" for the fact that a famous rapper is a guy? That's Tekashi 6ix9ine, do i need to give you a peer reviewed study showing it?

[–]ThePiperMan0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I’ll bet you five upvotes that photoshop. Let’s be real, my ***

[–]Texastentialismshe's got a tattoo and two pet snakes0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Dude are you trolling? He's a famous rapper and he always looks like that. Google 6ix9ine, you'll find dozens of images and videos of him

[–]ThePiperMan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’ll give you five upvotes even though I’m not convinced. 2x4 pieces of wood are better anyway, nephew

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

that's judging

[–]_Neon_Shadow_1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

High is subjective. What's high for me is low for another guy. Usually, my partner and I just tell each other. But if open communication is not possible in your relationship, there are other ways of finding out.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

" But if open communication is not possible in your relationship, there are other ways of finding out " And how is that?

" High is subjective. What's high for me is low for another guy. Usually, my partner and I just tell each other " It doesn't mean they're telling the truth. I personally never ask, because you can never validate what they're saying.

[–]immaculacy1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Why can't you judge though? Basically any way you use your brain to collect information about someone would be judging? I mean you can ask her?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Well, judging how many men a woman has been with just by how she looks can be highly inaccurate.

[–]immaculacy2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It can, but it's not just looks. You can judge by attitude, social media, looks, and whatever else. There's also red flags based on looks that men might want to stay away from on its own - slutty clothing for example.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Slutty clothing is something women wear because that's what's "in style". Maybe their favorite celeb dresses that way or their friends. It doesn't mean she's promiscuous. If you browse a lot of popular clothing stores, all they sell is very short revealing clothes to women. Especially during the summer.

There are women who dress conservative who can have a high body count. So clothing is not a good way to judge at all

[–]immaculacy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't say that. I said guys might want to stay away from slutty clothes because of the clothing itself because they don't like that. Not because it tells her exact partner count. A lot of young women are sadly pushed into slutty clothing because that's just what stores sell and they don't know any better.

[–]blackedoutfastRed Pill Man1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

you just need to act sex-positive and pro-slut and non-judgmental and they'll start trying to impress you with stories about all of their sexual adventures. and based on the types of stories they tell, it's usually pretty obvious whether they are less experienced than average, average experience, or more experienced than average. and that's all that really matters.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Smart women will not fall for that.

[–]blackedoutfastRed Pill Man1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

🤣 lol omg my sides.

literally every woman falls for this. they loooove having an opportunity to brag about how slutty they are.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

How far into the relationship do you pull this act?

[–]blackedoutfastRed Pill Man0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

ASAP. i try to seem sex-positive and non-judgmental by default and usually have chicks trying to brag about how slutty they are the first time i do anything with them.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

literally every woman falls for this.

Yep. Low hanging fruit, frankly. Often, they'll even tell you about their current beau.

[–]sadomasochristnAWALT = Not red pilled0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

"Women who have habits and traits typically seen in those with high body counts..."

[–]diffdedbedGreen Eyed Devil0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

"Women who have habits and traits typically seen in those with high body counts..."

As someone who hangs out with slutty women, what people are thinking they are seeing is usually bad choices not high n count. Last party I was at had 4 female physicians. No one in the street would think they were anything slutty.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

What habits and traits do they have?

[–]diffdedbedGreen Eyed Devil0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Which ones? The swingers or the obvious ones?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women

[–]reluctantly_red8 points9 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

most men are disgusted by and unwilling to commit to loose women

Not at all. Guys like women who actually like sex. What we don't like are women who use sex to get what they want.

[–]angels-fanCrooning over hellscapes7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Ehhh... Not so sure about that.

There's something viscerally disgusting about a high n count woman to most men.

[–]FatmanSlim937 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah most dudes I’ve talked to don’t like high n-count for dating.

[–]crystal_wb20F PPW4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There's a huge difference between women who like sex and women who like sex with lots of different men though.

[–]Pope_LuciousSeparating the wheat from the hoes1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea that’s a good way of putting it

[–]blackedoutfastRed Pill Man0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

you also have a fetish for obese women, so this wouldn't be the first time that "most men" doesn't include you bro.

[–]reluctantly_red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Obese women who like sex. :)

[–]FatmanSlim932 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I disagree that they aren’t relationship material, they’re just not relationship material for men who don’t want women who sleep around. If they stick to their own they will be happier.

[–]Emervila2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

BASED AF!

it's only need to point out high N count matters not only by the number itself BUT for the lack of pair bonding capability left on people who is severely emotionally damage after so many wild runs they just lack the loyalty and values for a real LTR.

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[–]alilabelle 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

I'll assume that most of you n-count spergs live in small towns because this issue is virtually unheard of in big cities where you can hop on new dick every weekend throughout your twenties with no repeats and no intermingling with your social circle of you wanted.

You must depend on some honor system too since the only way to know is to ask and anyone with a brain knows a guy who is asking is asking to be lied to. Carry on!

[–]azngirl76891 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

100%

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (21 children) | Copy Link

I have always determined that women with more than 5 are to be avoided.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The only way you can determine a woman's body count is by judging. There is just no way for you to know for absolute certainty how many men a woman has had sex with.

[–]_Neon_Shadow_2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You're delusional if you feel this way, but whatever floats your boat... I guess.

[–]reluctantly_red2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

women with more than 5 are to be avoided.

There goes 95% of the dating pool.

[–]_Neon_Shadow_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Right lol

[–]SkookumTreeRomantic relationships aren't necessary for happiness!0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No, about 60 to 70 percent, per American CDC data.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I have determined that men that have determined that women with more than 5 are to be avoided, are to be avoided.

If a man is interested in a woman's n count, I'm interested in what's "too much" for them. If I'd known my ex shared your views before I gave him my V, I'd have saved myself a lot of trouble.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

But I’m like really really ridiculously good looking.

[–]S3LF-IMPROV3M3NT 1 points [recovered]  (11 children) | Copy Link

You can't find that in the west today, not unless the girl is really fat or ugly or something.

[–]reluctantly_red5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Fat chicks don't have any problem hooking up.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed.

[–]immaculacy3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

This is blatantly untrue. There are plenty of attractive young adult virgin girls. They usually get scooped up by a husband pretty fast though. They often marry by 22 or something. Studies show skinny women have fewer partners than overweight women. (Not normal skinny but really skinny.) Ugly people, especially ugly women, have no problem getting laid. It's the socially awkward people that have trouble. Especially with makeup and clothing it's very difficult to be an ugly woman. Studies show attractive people have fewer partners because they can afford to be choosy. Average or below average people take what they can get.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is blatantly untrue. There are plenty of attractive young adult virgin girls. They usually get scooped up by a husband pretty fast though. They often marry by 22 or something

Ok, so if they are married by 22, then there are NO attractive young adult virgin girls (if that is even a word) on the dating market. They're all married and no longer virgins, duh!

" Especially with makeup and clothing it's very difficult to be an ugly woman" Nonsense. If you're an unattractive woman no makeup or nice clothing will cover that up.

" Average or below average people take what they can get. " People play games and use us. Lie and say they want a relationship just to get laid or money, and then run off with someone else.

[–]immaculacy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well it depends what you mean by adults. (I was saying girl because 22 is just out of college age and there's literally no one I know who doesn't call girls girls at that age.) If you want a 28 year old gorgeous virgin then no. She will definitely already be married.

I agree with you on the makeup thing. That's my opinion too. But many men will throw themselves at a women with cleavage out and makeup even if she's not at all good looking.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Especially with makeup and clothing it's very difficult to be an ugly woman.

LMFAO K, sure.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, these are all non western men expressing non western attitudes mostly

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I married one. Gorgeous and hot. I got lucky.

Actually all my exes were less than 5. I did sleep with a few who had like 50 under their belt 🤮 but like the OP says, they were NOT marriage material.

It is possible if they have been in long monogamous relationships which is another sign of wife material quality.

Because I always thought a woman who sleeps too easily has low self esteem and is needy. Same goes for guys.

[–]S3LF-IMPROV3M3NT 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy Link

I think your wife is lying about her N-count... it's really for girls to underestimate their number.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

No way she lies to me. I’m the liar. She’s like one of the few persons I know in my life who rarely lies.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good luck with that.

[–]ThePiperMan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmao, I can’t trust a woman unless she has five. It means she doesn’t have the social skills to get head. I’m also above five and not a goober so I’m fine too. Try winning someday!

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[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

What changes it is the reality that most high n women will in fact get married no one can change your opinion for you, or even try to. Yes you should avoid high n women because you dont like them. Why do you have to pretend it's true for everyone when its visibly not

[–]_Neon_Shadow_1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why do you have to pretend it's true for everyone when its visibly not

I never said it was true for everyone 🤷🏾‍♂️ nothing is.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes but you're expressing it as true universal facts when its obviously not

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[–]Texastentialismshe's got a tattoo and two pet snakes1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed, men shouldn't marry serial killers.

[–]jkonrad-Pill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol the men around these parts are theoretically against sluts and high n-counts. On paper. Sounds good. Has a ring to it.

[–]daniellederek0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Rule1 be attractive Rule2 don't be unattractive.

Any questions?

No.

Good .....

[–]angels-fanCrooning over hellscapes0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

First off, this idea that men are the gatekeepers of relationships needs to die in a fire. It's one of the most untrue things RP believes. Women control both of these.

Now, high N count...

RP believes that as a woman racks up more partners, her ability to pair bond is damaged.

I say this is backwards. A woman that is damaged in her childhood will rack up a large n count because she was already damaged.

It's possible for a woman that is perfectly normal with a high libido to have lots of partners.

So having a high n count is a red flag to be aware of, but not necessarily a deal breaker.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

First off, this idea that men are the gatekeepers of relationships needs to die in a fire. It's one of the most untrue things RP believes. Women control both of these.

Everything crumbles without it.

The idea is that as soon as you commit to, or especially move in with, a woman, attraction wanes because she "won" and the process of "betafication" begins. However, if you keep a certain distance, you are more exciting.

Of course, a consequence of this distance is that she will almost certainly find a guy who is willing to commit, and will stop seeing you to commit to him. However, since you are attractive, you just add a new woman to your rotation.

Now.....one of the things about TRP is that it is a collection of observations, not theories. What I just described has been exactly my experience.

[–]Joey_Lopez1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

A high N count is a deal breaker. Men are also the gate keepers of commitment because we decide if a girl is LTR material or if she's pump and dump material.

[–]confusedspade97Ruled by Statistics5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men are also the gate keepers of commitment because we decide if a girl is LTR material or if she's pump and dump material.

*High status men decide this.

[–]alilabelle 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

If you are high value which most men are not.

[–]Joey_Lopez0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Glad to hear I'm finally a high value man then. But I also remember even when I wasn't older guys would warn me if a girl was a schank.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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