Different Sexual Peaks Between The Genders

[deleted] · 2019-03-06T15:18:27+00:00

So, I'm having a hard time understanding the enthusiasm TRP has for the delayed male SMP with what I see happening IRL. What good is peaking later in life if you don't want to take advantage of it?

Very few of them are that age and I would imagine that a lot of the college kids and 20-somethings are imputing their existing sex drive to their future 40-something self.

LordDunderhead · 2019-03-06T15:37:31+00:00

... 40 to 45 seems to be the most common age bracket that these guys claim

It's honestly hilarious how delusional Terpers are lmao

This is the average middle aged male. I swear to God no one finds saggy old dudes with a dad bod, back hair, receding hairline, decreasing sperm quality and worst case scenario, erectile dysfunction, sexy

Y'all're not George Clooney ffs 😂😂😂

CainPrice · 2019-03-06T15:28:31+00:00

You're conflating different ideas about the "sexual peak". Let's call it physical versus social sexual peak.

A man will never be as horny and virile as he was around age 16-18. He is literally a puddle of hormones at that age. If you compare that same guy at age 35 to him at age 18, there is a huge decrease in sex drive. That's not to say that at 35, he won't still have a very hearty sex drive. But if that's what we're looking at for "sexual peak", it's around age 18 for men.

The actual "sexual peak" for women isn't that far off either. Once women hit the point where they're fresh out of puberty and biologically the most fertile they'll ever be, that's when their bodies are the most sexually ready. Sex drive goes down with age. The idea that women have a sexual peak in their 30s is more for social reasons than physical ones. Teenage girls are taught not to have sex (with good reason!), and they're just coming out of their shells in a society that artificially extends childhood until age 26 or so. (College being one huge casual sex buffet is a fairly recent development). So we used to end up with women in their 30s who'd finally found their sexual confidence and needed to get really sexual, really fast in order to get a man to marry them. But their actual physical sex drive was larger when they were younger. Their social sex drive is larger when they're in their 30s. That's changed a lot now with the casual sex revolution. Now, a lot of women fuck their way through their 20s as a regular rite of passage, and their 30s are for slowing their roll and settling down.

Meanwhile, as guys hit their 30s, they finally have cool jobs, stable lives, developed personalities, and interesting shit to talk about. And their female counterparts are hitting their social sexual peaks as noted above. So men in their 30s have more sexual opportunities than they've ever had, even if their actual sex drive was higher when they were 18.

PearsOfWrath · 2019-03-06T17:25:58+00:00

I keep reading posts/replies by TRPers saying that men hit their SMP peak later in life ... 40 to 45 seems to be the most common age bracket that these guys claim

I think you misunderstand. They are claiming their RELATIVE sexual peak is then. Past 35, the woman's sexual market value is decreasing rapidly. A mans decreases too, but not as fast. At 40 or so, I'd say a man has the most options he will ever have RELATIVE to a woman of the same age.

Of course, the number of available women by that time for a fling is quite low, and he himself is probably far more interested in a relationship.

Man's SMV peak is 20 to late twenties, imo. Women, 16 to mid 20s.

goatismycopilot · 2019-03-06T15:17:05+00:00

Yah but I want to take you out to dinner treat you right and your hair is cute is just bullshit men say to women they still want to bang and it does not mean THEY want a relationship it means they have awareness that many women do so they are saying things that hint they might be "relationship" guys to soften a lady up.

jax006 · 2019-03-06T17:40:14+00:00

Doesnt matter that sex drive is lower, the position you have in the market is better which is what the concept is about IMO.

Also who says 40-45? That is like fringe incel TRP, I always got the impression it was like the 28-35 range. Which I totally agree with.

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EmpoweredGirl · 2019-03-06T18:36:59+00:00

Massive coincidence that I'd just re-watched video by Tim Pool, which actually seems to show there are indeed different peaks. Tim Pool is a moderate liberal, feminist and extremely balanced and intelligent before people claim he is a PUA or RP. He make's vids on all kinds, and I like to watch an intelligent liberal makes points as to counter my more conservative views. Okay I'll stop propping him up and let the vid and the comments below speak for itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y41mwZ8jfyc

One thing I will add is that when it comes to males delayed peak in desirability, it should be prefaced with "potential" peak in desirability. If you are man, you do all the right things up to 50, got a great job after 30 years of promotions, are physically fit, well kept and mature then I don't think anyone would disagree that this is very attractive for many women. The article went into how both men and women date above their league (with men being more aspiration), though in practical life people date whoever is around them. So even if this trend is true, it's not the only factor and it's why we don't see 18's and 50's pairing off.

I haven't read the study the article is derived from, but this is how I hypothesised they came to their conclusion. Firstly they didn't do a basic lets poll all men of all ages and all women of all ages as to what is the most attractive age and then average. Instead they polled men and women, kept track of their ages as well and ran a statistical analysis that shows how attractive each sex is to each other at each age. For example men want women younger than themselves, while women want men older than themselves. This gap will be relatively small at younger ages, but increase asymmetrically as both sexes get older. This will create a relative peak at a young age for women and another peak at an older age for men. Disclaimer I don't know this is what they have done, though it would make so much sense. Also this is relative desirability, if women start out at 10 at 18 and slump to 3 at 50, then men start at 1 at 18 and increase to 5 at 50. The numbers aren't important just random guesses, but you get the idea.

blackedoutfast · 2019-03-06T19:18:19+00:00

lots of strawmanning in the OP

I keep reading posts/replies by TRPers saying that men hit their SMP peak later in life ... 40 to 45 seems to be the most common age bracket that these guys claim

first of all, no, pretty much everyone says male peak is more like 35.

second, no one says ALL men automatically become super studs when they get older. we're talking about guys who have their shit together, not all the fuckups with a fat gut and bad combover who live in a van down by the river. the guys who are fit and take care of their looks and have become more successful and confident and experienced with women are the ones who do well in their 30s and older.

unlike women, male SMV is NOT based entirely on looks. and attractive male looks are linked to signs of masculinity and physical dominance, not youthfulness. if a guy has his shit together in terms of looks, he isn't going to look significantly worse at 35 than he did at 20. men don't hit a wall like women, male looks decline more gradually over time.

what I see happening IRL

what you see in your own social groups isn't universally representative of all men. no offense, but the 40 year old guys who have their shit together aren't hanging out with 40 year old women. they're hanging out with 25 year olds.

Suddenly, it seems like both genders have reached a particular age and the horniness factor switched genders

a lot of men experience declining testosterone levels. women are also going through a lot of weird hormonal stuff at that age.

also, older women have thinner vaginal walls than younger women. this can make it easier to stimulate the nerves and internal portions of the clitoris, and easier to orgasm from piv sex.

cxj · 2019-03-06T20:21:56+00:00

I’ve always seen TRP claim SMP peaks for men at 27-33. Seems about right to me. RMP probably peaks later tho

reluctantly_red · 2019-03-07T13:49:22+00:00

I'm having a hard time understanding the enthusiasm TRP has for the delayed male SMP with what I see happening IRL

For a lot of RP guys its just a fantasy to help them deal with the reality that they're not attractive to women now (and likely never will be).

Mattcwu · 2019-03-06T19:14:49+00:00

What's your sample size?

WhatIsTheMeaningHere · 2019-03-06T21:45:34+00:00

Maybe men's sex drive derives from ego while women's sex drive derives from the constant stream of sex they've come to expect from being young, single, and "free". When men settle down, it satisfies his ego. When women settle down, they lose access to the unending string of dick.

Female_urinary_maze · 2019-03-06T22:28:11+00:00

You make a good point, and I also still have questions about what could be so hot about middle aged men anyway. The idea seems to stem from red piller beleifs about women having an insatiable attraction to money, afterall middle aged men do have more money.....but it doesn't make them hot to young women. We'd mostly rather have someone our own age who we can relate to better and find more attractive. Afterall we can make our own livings these days.

SmurfESmurferson · 2019-03-07T00:08:44+00:00

Lol women peak at 30? I want to sleep with a 30 year old woman said no man ever.

shonenhikada · 2019-03-07T08:08:50+00:00

Women care about 3 things in men:

Looks (Height and/or face)
Money
Social status

Assuming a man strives to improve himself, he should have an increase in 2. and 3. even if 1 has decreased due to age or remain relatively the same.

Contrast this with women. Men care about things such as sexual partner count, does she have kids with other men, personality, looks, fertility. Usually a lot of these things become negatives as a woman becomes older. For example - Sexual partner count most likely will increase as you get older which many men do not like in a partner for LTR (women know this too. Hence why they lie about their sexual partner count). Many women lose their looks fast past 30 and develop health problems in their 40's. Personality wise, more heartbreaks and failed relationship a woman experiences, the more jaded and bitter she becomes of love and relationship. This leads her to not view her next relationship as anything special. And chances are as she gets older, she most likely will have children from other men or gone through a divorce, and for the latter her subsequent marriage is more likely to fail.

Thus, for men the older they get, assuming they worked on themselves they become more valuable. While women tend to become more of a negative with their increase age.

Understand op?

[deleted] · 2019-03-07T22:28:50+00:00

Yet another reason men and women are fundamentally incompatible. Men start out as irresponsible, adolescent sex fiends and gradually morph into stable mature adults with transcendent sense of purpose in life.

The opposite is true for women.

YouWhereNeverHere · 2019-03-08T00:41:31+00:00

I agree that men tend to become more attractive in term of social status because their career, knowledge and income increases.

Sexually, I don't agree so much. In terms of looks and sexual charisma imo men in their late twenties and early thirties are the best.

Mandisi77 · 2019-03-08T06:29:54+00:00

Men and women are different and therefore are attracted to different things.

Women are attracted to looks, money and status. A man develops money and status overtime. If he can still maintain a relatively good physique and dress well there is no reason his peak SMV can't last well into his his 40's.

I would say the range of peak male SMV is 35-40.

Title	Different Sexual Peaks Between The Genders
Author	SmurfESmurferson
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Date	March 6, 2019 3:12 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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