Different women want different types of men. Why is this so hard to understand?

Exvareon · 2020-03-12T16:33:24+00:00

Women want an attractive version of their type.

Ballface8020 · 2020-03-13T08:59:21+00:00

Women love to say this but it just isn't true.

The main thing for all women is height. Ask any woman what her ideal man looks like and the first thing she is going to say is either "tall" or "over 6ft". This is why when you point out to FDS'ers that tall men are only 50% of the male population (with the bulk of those tall men still being under 6') they react with rage and make comments like, "I don't care what statistics say, I see plenty of tall men!".

I'm not saying women won't date shorter guys and be happy with them, but those short guys who they are with and maybe genuinely in love with, they also wish those guys were a foot taller.

For facial looks I agree that there is a lot of variation of what women like outside of the top 5% of guys. All women like guys who look like Heath Ledger but while some women will find a man who looks like Jake Gyllenhal very attractive, he will leave other women completely cold.

But none of this really matters cause women don't care that much about face. It is the one way where women actually are less shallow than men.

ifelsedowhile · 2020-03-12T17:21:04+00:00

there's variation in women's tastes when it comes to hair/eyes color, hair length, beard or no beard etc. they have a predominant preference for tall stature, large frame, good facial aesthetics and dominant personality. in the BDSM community there are very few women genuinely interested in submissive men.

LillthOfBabylon · 2020-03-12T18:05:12+00:00

This is just another NAWALT screed that acts like we should care about the minutiae of individual tastes and exceptions over the vast general trends.

If you want to attract a personal type of woman, then there might be personal guides for you. But, when talking about women in broad strokes, yes, it is good to be fit, muscular, high status, wealthy, confident, etc. Regardless of the clique, these will be massive boosts as you establish yourself. As for personality, it seems to me that the confident, yet aloof, sociable, masculine man does well enough wherever he goes. The slight variation of different personalities women find attractive (i.e., Rich Playboy Chad vs Rich Emo Chad) does not mean The Red Pill is incorrect.

LillthOfBabylon · 2020-03-12T17:24:18+00:00

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LillthOfBabylon · 2020-03-12T16:25:36+00:00

Men are looking at ways to attract women. Not an individual woman.

As much as men complain about women only seeing the top 20% and ignoring the rest, us men are just as guilty. We see the women we find attractive and ignore the rest (to an extent, yeah we do acknowledge they exist).

We then look for ways to become as attractive to this type of woman as possible.

Then online groups form, which generally attract similarly minded guys. So they probably have similar desires. I can easily bet that in my RL friend group, the types of women we find attractive is roughly the same.

However when guys talk about sluts vs non-sluts (just for the record, Im not an n-count obsessive), they mean out of those women they find attractive, they would prefer a non-slut to a slut, all other things being equal.

Just my personal views on this - feel free to bash.

decoy88 · 2020-03-12T16:27:45+00:00

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decoy88 · 2020-03-12T17:07:46+00:00

Different women want different types of men. Why is this so hard to understand?

It's not hard to understand and there is nothing wrong with it. The same goes for men.

What some men take exception to is that we've realized/found out that INDIVIDUAL women want different things from different men. And this has changed the way a lot of men feel about traditional relationships with women. Why is this so hard to understand?

eboy4hire · 2020-03-12T23:40:07+00:00

Then why do I always hear "women don't notice 80 perc of the guys.?" I bet you the 20 perc they do notice are fairly redundant from woman to woman.

MrHerbSherman · 2020-03-12T18:28:10+00:00

CMV

There is a particular strategy which has the broadest appeal

Why is this so hard to understand

LillthOfBabylon · 2020-03-13T14:30:19+00:00

Yeah women want their own version of a tall handsome and wealthy guy

Mrs_Drgree · 2020-03-12T17:07:10+00:00

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Emervila · 2020-03-12T16:50:43+00:00

Different women want different types of men. Why is this so hard to understand?

Because it's not happening. It's that simple, they say X but do Chad.

“Taller than me and Handsome”. And even then its not 100% agreed on. Some women want “dont be ugly”.

Be Chad.

Alot of women just want a ONS with him because he’s hot

C'mon Lilith, make an effort. They want HIM for sex, not the good guy, You are just confirming TRP.

The women who’d fuck Hot douche fuckboy is the ones who’d fuck lead singer in emo band (unless she’s a gold digger or chasing fame). Not every woman wants a ghastly pale dude. Not every woman thinks singing about depression is impressive.

You just discovered there's variety in the top 20% of males, good. Again, thanks for confirming

A woman’s standards is different from another woman’s standards.

They are so different the completely excluded 30% who had no sex in 2018 ( I don' thave the date for 2019), so different any data relevant shows a preference for only 20-30% of the males. So different and inclusive.

OXOzymandias · 2020-03-12T16:32:40+00:00

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LillthOfBabylon · 2020-03-12T16:34:02+00:00

not really. ACTUAL lustful attraction is fairly universal. status overrides everything so using a famous person as an example of varied taste in women doesn't work. for everyone else it's being tall+sharp jaw+white+dominant.

Mrs_Drgree · 2020-03-12T16:26:41+00:00

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beyond98 · 2020-03-12T16:21:16+00:00

TL;DR: NAWATS. Everyone has his/her own demographics (or should have)

decoy88 · 2020-03-12T16:43:53+00:00

In fact, the situation is so complex and hard to compartmentalise that it just feels random for the avergage dude. As in, I consider all women to find me unattractive until one of them does not.

And as men, let's be honest, we do the same. We ignore the uglies left and right.

MikepGrey · 2020-03-13T01:13:58+00:00

Answer - people are stupid and think they deserve more then they are worth, (women are not the only ones guilty of this as we are all human, but in the usa most of the offenders of this act are in fact women)

bluefiremagic · 2020-03-13T03:48:59+00:00

There are differences but but you have believe most women do want the same type of guy. Chad has a very specific definition its not just what you want to define it as it involves specific facial structure height frame and body proportion. The average women may know that she may not get a chad but that doesn't mean she would not still be willing to date down. Many would prefer to remain single there are a lot of women that are happily single.

GeminiGambit · 2020-03-13T03:54:08+00:00

Commenting simply to agree

Mrs_Drgree · 2020-03-13T07:50:14+00:00

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2020-03-12T23:57:49+00:00

the majority of men dont consider women as people with their own desires, personality, or goals, that's why. They all assume "whamenn r ehvhil children whoh whant Chad's dick" and are incapable of even thinking that women are more than bangmaids.

Mrs_Drgree · 2020-03-13T05:36:06+00:00

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TheJim66 · 2020-03-12T16:37:08+00:00

No, AWALT.They all have female nature and sexuality.They are all attracted to a combination of looks,money,status and game,they are hypergamous etc.

They don't want a different types of men ,they want the different flavors of the same type of man.If they want an artsy dude ,it's because that type of guy has status in her social circle and they are gonna want the best looking,most high status artsy dude they can find with the best frame,abundance mentality,IDGAF attitude etc.Replace artsy dude with whatever stereotype you want.All it changes are superficial things like his style .

Mrs_Drgree · 2020-03-12T22:54:56+00:00

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CaeruleaTigris · 2020-03-13T00:25:32+00:00

And I don't eve agree with "taller than me and handsome", so there's that

Andress1 · 2020-03-13T02:01:52+00:00

I've spoken to hundred of attractive women through my life. In my experience they want FIRST AND FOREMOST:

1.Nice face

2.Nice body(not as important)

Everything else is secondary.

SpiderAlpha33 · 2020-03-13T04:24:31+00:00

Stop putting women in a box by labelling them. Every woman is unique.

richlad · 2020-03-13T04:28:49+00:00

Dutch went from shortest to tallest people on the planet through sexual selection:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22403490

Basically, women enabled taller men to breed the shorter men go extinction.

Where is the "I only want men taller than meme, coming from"?

LosVangelis · 2020-03-13T04:33:22+00:00

Women are MUCH more likely to consider an ONS with a Chad who has a personality she hates than with a man she might consider marrying. Women have more varying sex drives that fluctuate more over the course of a month than a man's which fluctuates over the course of a week. Simply put, women tend to find alphas sexy, men tend to find new women sexy.

bridget1476 · 2020-03-13T05:40:08+00:00

My type Dudes: neckbead looking Girls: alternative looking

2020-03-13T06:45:36+00:00

I agree with this, mostly. Went on a date today. We were completely different. I’m into wine/champagne. I dress nice and upscale. She’s into cheap beer and tacky cowboy boots.

LillthOfBabylon · 2020-03-14T14:35:12+00:00

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moldovan0731 · 2020-04-15T08:02:22+00:00

Man, some people here are cucked. I didn't know that the purple pill was this close to the blue pill.

1amtheSpoon · 2020-03-12T18:56:39+00:00

It's not hard to understand. It's just impossible to believe. Why? Because my life experiences show me differently. It always boils down to looks and money. Some want both. Most are happy with one or the other. And don't take what I'm saying wrong. I don't have any issue with the system. But to deny it exists indicates a person (male or female) either doesn't want to see it or hasn't lived long enough to identify it.

CentralAdmin · 2020-03-12T23:42:36+00:00

So regardless of what you're into, your best chance as a man is to be "taller than her and handsome"?

That doesn't sound varied at all.

LillthOfBabylon · 2020-03-12T23:56:47+00:00

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Andress1 · 2020-03-13T01:55:23+00:00

Relevant

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SilentLurker666 · 2020-03-13T02:56:00+00:00

So close yet so far away... yes different women want different types of men.. but their difference is age. Younger women chases after guys with looks and social status. When biology calls they'll look for a provider so they can settle down. TRP has been all over this.

eboy4hire · 2020-03-13T05:43:02+00:00

There's no such thing as sluts and non-sluts. There might be some awkward women with awkward dudes, but I feel like they still idolize the world of the smooth and the rock stars like it's some unattainable realm.

There's nothing a man can do to control women's desire for him. It's either there or it's not. The guy has zero leverage. He can be cool today, but if a bunch of women decide he ain't shit all at once, he's garbage the next day and becomes a desperate pathetic husk of his former self. It's all on women and who they choose to fuck. They decide who's cool or not. It's a stupid fucking game unless if you're born with the gift of understanding wtf women are on about.

2020-03-12T22:32:03+00:00

I think at the end of the day, yes women want different things but there is a definition of the attractive smooth man who can regularly get women to have casual sex with him. This man, although his interests may vary, has similar characteristics:

he is tall (this varries by female preference)
he is facially attractive (high testosterone features and symmetry)
he is lean (low bf %, some muscle)
he is confident (outcome independence and willing to make a move/be sexual)
and he is exciting (this can come from having status or being a genuinely interesting person with cool interests or just being able to emotionally manipulate/game women)

He may be a roided frat bro, or he may be a skinny artist hippy dude, or he may be a rich high status business man but he needs to be at least okay in most of these categories and outstanding in a few to get casual sexual attention from women.

TRP helps with the 3/5 of these categories men can change, the black pill focuses on only the two that cannot. The point is, there are many ways these categories can be filled so that a man is attractive to women, but the categories are still important.

This is just for casual sex. Men need to fill a different set of categories to be considered for a LTR, but lots of men don’t dream about being the stable guy with shared values who is husband material. They want to be the guy girls lust after. Ideally they become both when they are ready to settle down.

LillthOfBabylon · 2020-03-13T03:31:59+00:00

Look at porn as an example. There are thousands upon thousands of different types of porn catering to men, different types of kinks, and above all, different types of women. Athletic, curvy, BBW, thin, different races, hair and eye color, etc. What men seek in women is a smorgasbord, as men seem to have a wider gamut of the kind of women turns them on.

Now look at porn catering to women. The men always look like the cover of a romance novel; six pack abs, six feet tall, the typical male model, the Fabio look if you will. This alone is enough to open a man's mind to what women look for in a man physically. Why is there no fat guy porn, or 5'2" balding indian men porn for women?

Women do not want different types of men, they're all chasing the same unicorn men.

Title	Different women want different types of men. Why is this so hard to understand?
Author	LillthOfBabylon
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Date	March 12, 2020 4:13 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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