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Do you think our generation will be okay?

October 28, 2018
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I think intersexual relations in this generation are a lot of things, but good isn't one of them. The way this lack of love, companionship, and loneliness is expressing itself isn't healthy. I see a lot of hate (of the opposite sex and themselves), indifference, and depression.

Do you guys think the current state of things is ok? Will it improve? Get worse? Any solutions? Or is there no problem at all? Thoughts?

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[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Yes it'll be fine in the end. I think as we grow up we'll drop the social media addiction and just use it to post a few photos now and then without basing our lives around it.

The economy is always up and down and if we could predict it we'd be rich. But there's plenty of jobs out there, I have an interview tomorrow and another opportunity lined up soon and my CV ain't even that great. There will be recessions throughout the decades but ultimately things bounce back.

Most people feeling depression are only feeling situational depression not clinical depression. Therefore as they move up in their careers and find partners they will feel better. I do think overprescription of SSRIs is an issue though especially for situational depression. But it's not enough of an issue to fuck up a whole generation.

Social norms will change so marriage becomes less common and cohabitation becomes the new norm. This is already happening throughout Europe. Most people will still have kids and things will go on as normal.

Ultimately I think everything will work out fine just as it has for previous generations. We currently live in the most safe and prosperous Western society that has ever existed but that doesn't sell newspapers so they gotta pretend it's all doom and gloom.

[–]circlhat2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Humanity will go on , but cohabitation is much worst on the children and low birth rates in Europe mean they won't be around much longer

Western society that has ever existed but that doesn't sell newspapers so they gotta pretend it's all doom and gloom.

for some it's great for some it's doom and that doom number is getting bigger

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

cohabitation is much worst on the children

Any source for this that isn't from the US?

It seems most people who believe this only look at the US where cohabitation is not as acceptable. So you think of non-married parents in the US you think of single mothers.

In European countries cohabiting families are their own category. If you have actual evidence they have lower birth rates please share.

[–]Nodoxxintoxin2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Benzo, how does the most depressed guy on here post the most hopeful response? Fwiw, I think you are spot on.

Everyone thinks relationships have always been like 1950’s tv shows. Shit wasn’t like that irl even in the 50’s. And real life today isn’t as bad as weird ass corners of the Internet would have us believe.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If there's one thing I've learnt through the years it's simply that life is what you make of it.

And I agree there's people here who look at the past through rose tinted glasses without having any idea what it was really like. Even if the past actually was better (I don't believe it was, but hypothetically) what good would it do to sit there all day complaining about it? You cannot travel time or change when you were born so the best you can do is make the most of what you have.

So many people here (primarily the men) are trapped in prisons of their own making.

[–]YetAnotherCommenterPurple Pill Man, Sexual Economics Theory14 points15 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Our generation won't be. We'll be overeducated, with crippling student debt and lower returns-to-education than before. We'll be packing ourselves into urban centers and dealing with high costs of living unless we get prepared to move into regional areas. Yes, jobs are getting fewer; we're breeding less accordingly, but a lot of people who want a family will not be able to have one. Not to mention we'll probably be footing the bill for our elders' retirement benefits and the like which won't be sustainable at current rates (at least in the USA - every nation has different safety net designs so the impacts will have to be looked at on a nation by nation basis).

Lots of people will be greatly disinterested in and cynical about romantic relationships, for good reasons IMO.

Will civilization collapse? No, don't be melodramatic. We'll end up with something like Japan's lost decade but the impacts are likely to be more cultural than economic I think.

[–]Willow-girlProud 2 B an American farmer5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

and dealing with high costs of living unless we get prepared to move into regional areas.

Stay in the city! It's crazy out here. There are ticks that can kill you. Ticks. And that's just for starters. If the bears don't eat you first. Nope, you're safer in the city.

[–]darudeboysandstormSoup on the stove, bread rising, apple pie2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

People survive in australia, rural america is pretty tame.

[–]Willow-girlProud 2 B an American farmer1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

No! No! It is a hellish place permeated by the noxious fumes emanating from CAFOs. The inhabitants are overalls-clad, slack-jawed extras from the movie "Deliverance." They will feed your children non-GMO-free food and teach them to square dance. Run, run away!

[–]darudeboysandstormSoup on the stove, bread rising, apple pie1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ahhh I see, it all makes sense now lol.

[–]Nodoxxintoxin0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Haha, I live near where Deliverece was filmed. There are parts of that county that really are pretty fucked up.

[–]Willow-girlProud 2 B an American farmer1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'll bet! I just got back from doing a job out in the badlands by the WV state line. There's a road out there called "Shades of Death Rd." A local was telling me the name comes not from the hairpin turns, but from the belief that it's haunted by the ghost of "a colored man" who died up there long ago. He didn't go into details but I'm guessing the death was not due to natural causes ...

[–]exit_sandmanstill not the MGTOW sandman FFS1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

We'll be packing ourselves into urban centers and dealing with high costs of living unless we get prepared to move into regional areas.

What's somewhat encouraging is that this would actually be possible (thanks to the internet, a lot of jobs could be done at home, and also thanks to the internet, not living in a big city or close to one is far less of a deal). I just hope we'll get there.

[–]YetAnotherCommenterPurple Pill Man, Sexual Economics Theory0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I would've agreed with you years ago, when everyone was talking about how the internet could destroy the need to commute and enable so much working from home etc.

But in reality the centralization trend has increased in recent years. The internet seems to have made certain urban cores more powerful/prominent rather than less. It isn't even a matter of internet access since this trend occurs in places with very good internet coverage. It seems also to be related to the phenomenon of deindustrialization.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

nah

accelerate the decline

[–]Young_Oryx 1 points [recovered]  (9 children) | Copy Link

I think everyone will be just fine. I mostly see the things you're talking about on the internet: hatred and distrust of the opposite sex, lack of love, indifference, etc.

The average age of marriage is still sitting at around 27. People are getting married later, but they are still getting married and having families.

[–]circlhat1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

some will be fine, people will slip though the cracks , mainly men, they will die and no one will care, but humanity will go on

[–]_Neon_Shadow_1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

I mostly see the things you're talking about on the internet: hatred and distrust of the opposite sex, lack of love, indifference, etc.

Originally, it didn't bother me because I only saw it online. But now I'm seeing it more and more in daily life.

The average age of marriage is still sitting at around 27. People are getting married later, but they are still getting married and having families.

Out of the hundreds of people I graduated with, there's only 2 married couples. Marriage rates have been declining since they were recorded. A woman that waits until marriage to have children is a fairytale. Most girls I know got knocked up early and became single moms, now they're looking for a man, but can't find one.

I'm not saying just because this is the case for me, its universally true. But this is what I have observed.

[–]blackedoutfastRed Pill Man5 points6 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Out of the hundreds of people I graduated with, there's only 2 married couples.

how old are you? a lot of times what happens is that no one is married then suddenly almost everyone gets married in a relatively short period of time. marriage spreads like an epidemic through social networks. no one wants to be the first of their friends to get married, but eventually someone does it and then no one wants to be that last person who isn't married. girls especially will see their friends planning weddings and getting tons of attention and it makes them really want the same thing for themselves.

[–]Young_Oryx 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy Link

Yep. I'm seeing this in my peers now. I've been to so many weddings the last couple years.

[–]blackedoutfastRed Pill Man1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

yeah i think i'm finally past the worst of it but there was a period of time where it seemed like i was getting invited to weddings every weekend. and gets ridiculous with how much money you spend all the travel and hotel rooms and wedding gifts.

[–]Young_Oryx 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

Are you on to baby season now? We haven't hit peak baby yet, but I can tell it's coming. A small handful of my friends have started having children.

[–]blackedoutfastRed Pill Man3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

yup. seeing more and more babies and toddlers at get togethers. even some of the people who have always been very vocal about never wanting to have kids changed their mind and had kids.

and girls who used to drink like fish are suddenly drinking non-alcoholic drinks so i'm sure there will be more soon. and most of the couples who aren't getting pregnant right now are suddenly talking about buying houses and school districts and all that.

it's weird how much it reminds me of when i was a little kid and my parents would drag me along when they would go visit their friends and have the most unbelievably boring conversations with each other. just the circle of life i guess lol.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Half of them will get divorced and most of the divorced men will get divorce raped

[–]blackedoutfastRed Pill Man2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

just like their parents and grandparents

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe not. The shift to more automated working is going to come soon and someone I don't think companies will be in a hurry to share the wealth so that people can live easier lives on less money.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

We are going to be fine, like we always have been.

[–]Electra_CuteChristian, Flat Earther, Anti-Vaxxer, Astrologer9 points10 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I think things are getting better and will continue to as time goes on. It seems that a lot of the complaints I see men have about sex have to do with 1) them choosing partners almost indiscriminately 2) having unrealistic expectations.

[–]_Neon_Shadow_2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

How do guys have unrealistic expectations?

[–]Justfukkenlul1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Guys want a girl who will love them forever for who they are, until death, through poverty and illness, also maybe a girl who hasn't enjoyed 100+ guys

Unrealistic expectations in 2018

[–]circlhat2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No that is a very realistic expectation, I found a women to love me for who I am. Why does Who they are mean fat,ugly and lazy, you want someone to love you for who you are.

Men have 0 expectation they just want something , which is why they often get shit

[–]Freethetreees-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Unrealistic expectations, period.

[–]exit_sandmanstill not the MGTOW sandman FFS0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It seems that a lot of the complaints I see men have about sex have to do with 1) them choosing partners almost indiscriminately 2) having unrealistic expectations.

And both are the consequence of men not having a clue (aka "being bluepill").

[–]EsauTheRed 1 points [recovered]  (7 children) | Copy Link

No, it won't be okay and there will be a record number of never-marrieds, single mothers, and broken families

They'll all expect productive, successful people go carry them through life through voting for a $15 minimum wage, or mandatory 18% tips and 3% health and welfare charge, for example

Those who have bought into the shittiness and can't keep it bottled up and in, will always expect handouts

[–]DemonConsulting4" Dragon2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Honestly the single moms will probably be a drop in the bucket compared to all the boomers expecting to be carried through retirement by a shrinking population. By that time, there just won't be enough money for handouts to anyone so “society“ will either have to address the rising gap in wealth (probably massively increase taxes on the top 1%) or just let the poor die, let the middle class become the new poor, then repeat until there's noone left.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

just let the poor die

This sounds most likely in the US tbh.

[–]Willow-girlProud 2 B an American farmer0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Honestly the single moms will probably be a drop in the bucket compared to all the boomers expecting to be carried through retirement by a shrinking population.

Yes, after paying into Social Security for 40 years, shame on them for expecting something back out of it!

[–]EsauTheRed 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

Should have had kids

[–]Willow-girlProud 2 B an American farmer2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Then a lot of people would have an adult kid living in their basement, or otherwise sponging off them. LOL

[–]DesignerDebates 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

Race baiting is not allowed. Please remove that part and I will approve.

[–]ifelsedowhilelocal cop - cherry top1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hypergamy unrestricted will cause society decline until technology and transhumanism will save the day.

[–]wtknightGen X Slacker1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

We will probably be okay. Humans will adapt to new social circumstances. We are a very adaptable species.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No.

Probably fully 40% of the men between ages 20 and 35 will not marry and not have children. They will be doing really, really well to get dates here and there. Best for them will be to get decent jobs making enough to support themselves. They should just forget about women and LTRs, because it's not going to happen for them.

It is going to get a lot, LOT worse. A LOT worse. All around. Especially economically, politically and socially for men.

[–]mgtow_12 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Society in general is splintering into more and more groups. As this continues we will see more and more conflict between these groups and common ground will be much harder to find if possible at all.

[–]Pastelitomaracucho1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

We are developing A.I. that knows how to give blowjobs and the sex doll brothels are becoming popular.

We will be fine :)

[–]OfSpock3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Cull the unworthy.

[–]10065200 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

We won't be okay, aside from everything listed before this (I presumably agree with 100%) we also have to face the fact of nature and species relationship. We've seen it in every other place on Earth except the U.S. because the history is just too new. Societies and civilizations fall when men, being the primary defence, fall. Today's day and age targets them and emasculates them. Then turns and hands them simulators to make due. The fact of the matter is species survive when they fight to survive. We may be all comfy cozy on our coutches watching TV and screens 24/hours a day now but give it time and the barbarians will do as they always have. Infiltrate and consume. You hear on the (fake) news all the time the discussion of imigration and boarders.. obviously time will show with this feminine society that we feel to badly about not letting people in and begin to accept all and the rot from within will be completed. Our society has already begun and you can see it clear as day if people would look up from their echo chamber providing cell phone screens, but alas these screens feed our instant gratification and reward system and when your a society that has never really had to truely struggle (given we have followed a tremendously wealthy generation not to mention sizable called the baby boomers) then you never even got the chance to learn the values of moderation self discipline and dedication. Instead your just distracted and then grow bored to you find a new distraction or you feed that reward system with ego building or material consumption. That's my optimistic veiw on it, but i could go for days about how this societies values resemble to much like sins (or simulations lol ) and not self sufficient virtues

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Problems I've noticed with our generation:

  • expecting perfection with relationships. Has any adversity? Bail, wasn't meant to be. Our generation was raised on Hollywood more than any other

  • can't get someone to love you unconditionally? Get a pet. I laugh at any single person who owns a dog. Fucking loser.

  • delayed aging. 20s are the new teenage years. "Exploring yourself" to women means taking dick at some hostel in Thailand

[–]circlhat0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't think people expect perfection in fact people tolerate abuse highly.

can't get someone to love you unconditionally? Get a pet. I laugh at any single person who owns a dog. Fucking loser.

Finding someone to love you is easy, finding someone you love to love you is a lot harder, human want the best they can get,love seems to be defined as achieving the best you think you can get.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

True. People are also entitled to much more in that arena than in previous generations

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[–]Willow-girlProud 2 B an American farmer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Depends on the economy. When men can find decent jobs, women will marry the fathers of their children and raise said children in intact families. When men can't find jobs, women tend to go it alone, and those kids are at higher risk of being damaged.

[–]Whodunnit88Survivied Purge Week 20180 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I think we'll start to see a rebellion against online dating.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What sort of rebellion?

[–]Whodunnit88Survivied Purge Week 2018-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

A nice one.

[–]atheist_terry_ascend0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Optimistic

[–]Eartherry0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Our generation can't fulfill our societal expectations because of the financial burdens of the time. We know we're supposed to go to college, get a job, get married and have kids, but we can't afford any of that stuff.

I think plenty of this generation will sit and wait for the world to go back to the way it was. They won't know what to do with themselves, otherwise. The rest will find something else to focus their time and energy. Relationships and children will become solely for recreation.

Of course, the older generations will shame us for deviating from our societal duties. In reality, we'll be reaping what they've sown for the foreseeable future.

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