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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Game exists sure, but the fact is they need to already find you at the minimum threshold for attractiveness. It isn’t magic, it won’t get a dude who is a 4 bang hot chicks, but if that 4 works hard he can maybe hook up with a girl who is like 80 pounds heavier than him. The fact is that game really only works for men who don’t really need game all that much anyway.
[–]vosidit98 1 points 4 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
but if that 4 works hard he can maybe hook up with a girl who is like 80 pounds heavier than him.
Better off alone.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pretty much. This exact scenario happened when a friend and I lived together. He was a 4 at best, maybe even lower. He is pretty much confidence incarnate, will go up to any woman in any bar, club, wherever and have no trouble trying to hit on her. Dude can talk to anyone, and in a year and half he would go out like every weekend and some weeknights. He hooked up once with a chick, and she was like 80 pounds heavier. Don’t know if it was exactly that, but she was fat, probably to the point where no other guy wanted her anyway. So much for game.
[–]diffdedbedGreen Eyed Devil1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
it won’t get a dude who is a 4 bang hot chicks
It has helped this guy whos a 5-6 bang hot chicks, and no fatties ever. I won't get past a hard no (and who wants to work that hard for a off chance anyways) but it will get you past a "meh". Part of it is putting yourself in a spot where you are not obviously hitting on her. Just a basic conversation maybe in a small group. Hell, I've gotten Saposexual types just by having a large vocabulary. Intelligence is a form a status and when they think you are smarter than they are, there ya go.
Game you need to offer something, entertainment if you will, to show value. I'm sure there are guys far better than I at it too, I consider myself at best "ok", but it still works. Maybe not all the time, and sometimes in my comedy I tend to make them laugh and cockblock myself at the same time, but it works often enough.
[–]rus9384Misanthrope0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
if that 4 works hard he can maybe hook up with a girl who is like 80 pounds heavier than him
Because there are much less women into casual sex in America.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Aren’t you from Russia?
[–]rus9384Misanthrope2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. If you are 4 you can have sex with 4 and even above if you are good in game*.
*In Russia.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yeah but a Russian 8, is kind of like a US 5. Countries have different rating scales on what they find attractive. It could be just that a 4 in Russia is only successful because most of the women just aren’t that hot. No offense.
[–]rus9384Misanthrope2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol, Russian women are ones of the most attractive in the world. Russian 4 would be a slightly chubby chick with an average face.
[–]CamoWoobie10000Women are SHIT0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
US is ranked the 12th most obese country, russia is 70th. That says a lot right there.
[–]TheJim66Red God-Emperor of Slut Country3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Of course game exists and it's vital if you wanna bang many and hot girls.However it's not magic like many people think and make a 3 bang an 8 just because he has good game.But it will help him get other 3s or even 4s.You do need to have a solid base though .Your looks and frame should be as good as possible.
If just with my looks alone I could get 6s then with game I can get 7s and occasionally 8s.
[–]blackedoutfastRed Pill Man2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
lol yes ofc game exists and it's even more important than looks.
most of these incels who suck with women and think it's because they have a bad jawline or whatever just have absolutely shit game.
[–]azitah 1 points 4 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
It's just crazy to me because I distinctly remember theredpill constantly shitting on incels. Like redpillers were incels biggest critics.
There were tons of threads on trp telling incels to either learn game or end it. The idea was that inceldom was everything that trp hated.
So it is very strange to see at least on this sub, guys with the incel tag that actually talk about "jaw lines" and what not. Seems to go against almost everything that is required reading in trp, like the black phillip show or the book of pook etc.
[–]blackedoutfastRed Pill Man4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yeah incelism is the complete opposite of redpill. I think those idiots pretend to be RPers to spread their dumbass incel ideas because RP is taken more seriously and more tolerated.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Trpers hate men who refuse to improve and just whine and whine and whine all the time thinking 2 years in a gym will get them laid. Gym is just a start to learn discipline and improve your body. It won't get you laid by itself. The rest of the 90 percent of required attributes is social life, self-sufficiency, having purpose, doing fun stuff and constantly looking for something more exciting.
It's too hard of a task for incels. That's why they rationalize it with having shitty jaw genetics. Living sheltered lives fucks up your brain. Many terps been there at some point. So instead of going with sugar coating words and wishy washy "you can do it kid, everyone will find their unicorn eventually, just keep looking!" we slap them on the face and kick their ass to go to work on themselves. Because all of those incels lacked strict father figure. They became feminine and emotional. Manhood is about actions, not thinking "I feel so anxious when around girls, what do". Spend more time around girls then, fucker!
That's the gist.
[–]TrueReligionGenesLooxist3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Game is relevant only after she's already attracted to you. Game wont make her attracted to you. The fallacy is that guys assume game can make her sexually attracted to you, only looks can do that.
[–]ZodiacBrave98Open Hypergamy Triggers Me1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Game is real. It isn't a silver bullet.
Women's attraction is composed of your personality, and looks, and other things. 'Game' as usually talked about ends up a vague term for 'everything but looks; fake it if you need to'.
With internal game, external game, day game night game, social circle game : the term became meaningless.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Game exists. However (partly due to marketing) people think its some sort of magic bullet and that they will magically transform overnight. It does not work that way, if a person has crappy game, then it takes work and effort. Its like anything in life, what you put in was what you get out.
Also, some people seem to hear about game. Then just go out and jut use an opener, or do C&F to death. This alone is not enough. Even if you open well, a oman isn't going tojust rip off her clothes and let you f**k her there and then. It dosn't work like that.
Then finally there is rejection, a lo of guys swill not push through the rejections. I spent 3 years being a Peter Pan PUA, hence I gave it a break for a while, I need to focus on other other things and when I get back into it, it will not be as intense as last time as I have other shit going on in my life now, but in those 3 years I did 1K+ approaches and got rejected to the point it no longer bothered me. But yeah a lot of guys can't handle the rejection.
There are other factors.
Oh and then there is Tinder, which probably seems more "convenient"
[–]celincelinNeeds to be taught not to rape1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you’re getting rejected this much, maybe “game” doesn’t work then.
Not everyone of them has been a rejection. A lot I ejected from (when I did 140 approaches in one week just to internalise the 3 second rule). But also a lot I have had some of the most fun nights of my life from(not just in regards to sex).
Its just part of the process.
And also hen I did OLD and Tinder, I probably sent more message and did more swipes than I will ever do approaches in the same time frame.
[–]HottentotGeniusHippie Chadavius✊🏽0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, game exists and its necessary for all men regardless of their attractiveness.
A "hot" guy may need less game than an unattractive one to get laid, but they both require it nonetheless
[–]celincelinNeeds to be taught not to rape0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It doesn’t.
STR is looks, LTR is compatibility.
[–]barbodelli0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think one of the problems is that nobody has a clear definition.
If your definition of game is "being able to attract women" then it is probably wrong and doesn't really exist.
If your definition of game is "finding women who find you attractive" and "maximizing your opportunities with these women" then it starts to make a lot more sense.
Learning where to be and when. Which clubs, bars and social outings have the best opportunities.
Learning how to approach properly and when (and when not to).
Figuring out if the woman is interested at all quickly.
Your conversation skills.
All those things are "game" to me and they are all separate skills that can be honed over time.
How good your game is, is largely affected by how good you look. Its like maxing out charisma in an RPG, you now have access to hidden dialogue options you didnt have before, you can skip to the end of entire quests with one sentence.
If a woman isnt attracted to you, theres really not much you can say to change her mind. The more attractive you are, the more easily you can turn a girl into a nervous giggling blushing mess.
Game only really sets average guys apart from other average guys. Chad saying "Wanna fuck?" beats of 99.9% of guys with "game".
[–]MisterJose0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Sure it exists, but the internet makes it way harder to put game into motion. If you're just a swipe on Tinder, you have a few photos and 2 sentences to work with. What you can do in person is far more than that. I personally fail miserably on Twitter, get some hits on OK cupid, but girls seems to love talking to me on the phone, where I imagine I am able to differentiate myself from other guys more.
[–][deleted] 1 points 4 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Black pill is right but the cuck sub creator suppresses it. Mods are good guys that enforce shit rules. Why is free speech on a salient topic suppressed?
You have been warned for incel comments and content before. TGP was very civil with you, and you seemed to understand. One more comment like this, though, and you're gone.
[–]azngirl76890 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Be your best self IS the game. Find someone who wants you warts and all. Pretending is exhausting. Change is necessary of course but never compromise your values or who you are at your core.
[–]blackedoutfastRed Pill Man2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
jUsT bE yOuRsElF
I have another one. Just be rich! Why be poor? Be rich. Haha. It makes as much sense as blue pill " be yourself," mantra.
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