How can the sexual marketplace be “regulated” without basically forcing people to be intimate with those they don’t desire?

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2020-01-25T17:42:54+00:00

whats fascinating to me is the belief men seem to have that the husbands of the past when wives were more "equitably" apportioned had some kinds of amazing sex lives with these wives

barbodelli · 2020-01-25T17:42:39+00:00

The only real thing they can do is invest heavily into studying the science behind attraction. Currently they dont really focus on it. And teach people the truth instead of shit like "looks dint matter just be confident bro".

I don't know how many of you have seen the movie Gattaca.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gattaca

Thats another solution make everyone physically attractive. But the technology for that is still at least 50 years away.

Nature has never and will never be fair.

arcticshqip · 2020-01-25T18:01:30+00:00

And all the shock, horror and hate if you suggest having sex with ugly or average women.

Zippo-Cat · 2020-01-25T18:33:11+00:00

It can't be, that's what triggers people about it so much in the first place.

The fact that there's a gargantuan amount of people out there who not only are not happy by no fault of their own but can't ever be MADE happy is such a direct violation of the just world fallacy that normies can't stand it.

onirroc · 2020-01-25T17:06:28+00:00

It can't. It's pathetic to complain about it being "unfair". People want what they want. If you don't fit that, oh well, life isn't fair.

It's better to learn how to achieve success in reality than wish women would lower their standards.

All of the "just shame women!" and "government enforced monogamy!" is fantasy-land shit.

41013 · 2020-01-25T17:24:18+00:00

Awesome proposals, guys! Unload negativity on women! Restrict their choices! That will definitely make them feel positively and horny towards men.

GreenSatyr · 2020-01-25T17:43:45+00:00

ITT, comments that advocate relinquishing of freedoms

JaJammerJan · 2020-01-25T18:35:19+00:00

billions worth subsidized plastic surgery and plastic surgery research combined with billions of funding into creating affordable designer babies

Much better way to spend taxpayer money than funding single moms and their spawns for example.

gimpgirl555 · 2020-01-25T17:38:49+00:00

Take away tax payer (men payer) freebies for women.

pongaminbloom · 2020-01-25T19:50:26+00:00

It can't. Making people realize this is the only thing good about Red Pill. Immature guys finally figure out there is no fairy God mother that's going to reward them with sexual partners.

You've got to attract women to be with women, and that means being attractive. You can't adjust the sexual marketplace. You can only adjust your strategy.

Shower, wash your hair if you have some and scrub with body wash every single day.
Clip and clean your nails.
Wear decent clothes
Get in shape.
Manage your weight.
Go to the dentist and follow their advice.
Clean your car and house before you bring a women into them.
Don't shame people for casual sex if you want someone to have it with you.
Build confidence. -Develop leadership skills. -Increase your socioeconomic status if possible. -When looking for LTRs, focus your attention on women who are compatible and likely to be interested rather than just chasing everyone you think is hot. -Understand that it is not attractive to talk about your confidence issues, desperation, hangups on past rejections, unrequited crushes and ex girlfriends. Don't use the girl you want to date as a therapist for these issues. It kills chemistry, and it is a red flag for all sorts of potential relationship woes.
Learn the difference between being nice and being spineless and co-dependent.
If you hate women, get over that before you try to date women.
Figure out that not all women are the same, and treat them like individuals.

If everyone did this, there would be much fewer incels.

poppy_blu · 2020-01-26T04:03:39+00:00

Some of these answers are pathetic. How sad that there are men who will admit out loud that if no one literally brings them sex on silver platter they’re being oppressed.

Do you want the government to put the condom you too and hold your dick while you’re fucking her?

NOTSM · 2020-01-25T17:06:43+00:00

Stop with the constant wealth distribution from men to women.

Cut back the gibs for single mothers

Make women pay their fair share in taxes

Stop making men subsidize women's health insurance

2020-01-25T18:34:29+00:00

Regulation lol

SazeracSlap · 2020-01-25T18:45:52+00:00

Other than once again saying this sort of things is impossible to put into practice I think the more appropriate thing to do is to just accelt that no one and I mean no one ever gets 100% of the sex they want all the time. Wether the person is the socially awkward gal or guy or my husband whom I have sex with every day for the most part...

But I know that while he is happy and he is satisfied he still:

Fantasizes about others Desires others and desires sex acts I won’t agree to Desires group sex and other more kinky things that I personally experienced years ago but he has not Etc

and I mean shit I am satisfied for the most part but not 100% myself... but to be fair to me I have a pretty odd case of ocd and that has made me hyper sexual on occasion and in need of a very specific type of “completion” in order to feel the sex act has been well completed... lol

I don’t want to turn this into a PoliSci 101 class and I set don’t want to sound like one myself but regulations generally don’t make things better but often worse, more expensive and needlessly complicated

PMmeareasontolive · 2020-01-25T20:15:02+00:00

Not suggesting regulation. But I think online dating has much untapped potential. It's kind of gotten stuck in a rut of catering to the most common denominators among men and women.

Kind of like the history of food production; canned food came along and was the savior of humanity. Then even more highly processed and packaged food developed and everybody thought it was great at the time. Then somebody came along and realized that it all tasted like bland chemical bullshit.

I think online dating is still in that stage of a few large companies trying to appeal to and retain the masses.

It's inept, even almost lobotomized, but nothing better has sprung up yet because it's successful for a few so they can say, "see, just be like them ya losers".

mandoa_sky · 2020-01-26T03:51:46+00:00

it isn't supposed to be fair though. that's how evolution works

LotBuilder · 2020-01-26T04:15:24+00:00

It can’t be. So the option is to work on personal development until you are sexually attractive. The only issue that can’t be fixed for men is height. If you don’t want to play that game then opt out of the game, bang a hooker when you feel the itch and do what makes you happy.

the_calibre_cat · 2020-01-26T09:25:15+00:00

reduce the number of males

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2020-01-25T17:59:54+00:00

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b_047 · 2020-01-25T17:44:38+00:00

If it was fair, humanity would be static. We need some losers to get chopped off of the gene pool over time.

But try to improve yourself and make yourself dateable if you are so undesirable that no woman wants you at all. No one is beyond fixing. As long as you're not fat, and you groom well, socialise, then bam. Not hard. Obviously those things will need work, but theyre worth working on because they're the things you need to improve at in life generally anyway. .

Dora_Bowl · 2020-01-25T18:50:53+00:00

I think it is already fair, but eliminating or changing gender roles would have a positive impact on a lot of people.

the-lone-squid · 2020-01-25T19:28:56+00:00

Fine Chad for dating more then 2 girls per year

Joey_Lopez · 2020-01-25T17:09:44+00:00

Slut shame more, shame men that date single moms, shame single moms, stop government benefits to single moms, and socially enforce monogamy.

TheJim66 · 2020-01-25T17:10:47+00:00

Remove unfair divorce and child support laws and welfare.Legalize financial abortion .End gender quotas.Things will sort themselves out with that.

Bonus points:Bring back slutshaming

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acron5n5 · 2020-01-25T19:46:17+00:00

Unironically free all markets and remove the state, install anarcho-capitalism. Eventually things will be fair, although some of us won't like it.

SherbertBacon · 2020-01-25T20:07:02+00:00

There have been a lot of discussions about how skewed and unfair the SMP is.

Some people think it's unfair and skewed that Pepsi Co owns the majority of food products and fast food chains. But it's that way because we chose their products. Being seen as "unfair" doesn't necessarily make it so.

How can it be made “fair” without somebody having to relinquish their freedom?

It can't. In the same way that having a "completely fair" economic distribution can't exist without relinquishing freedom—and undoubtedly giving up sexual freedoms is significantly worse. I'd say it's "fair enough" and leave it at that.

welcometothejl · 2020-01-25T20:21:19+00:00

Legalize prostitution. You're not forcing people to be intimate with those they don't desire, you're incentivising it!

Hibibun · 2020-01-26T00:17:33+00:00

The notion that it's not balanced is kinda flawed in itself. The thing about 80 percent of women wanting the same 20 percent of men can be applied even if we reverse the genders. Being in a relashionship is about enriching each other's lives and that's what people forget the most. A relashionship is not only a source of pleasure but also a responsability and a lot of people are just not ready yet.

dylang92 · 2020-01-26T01:19:33+00:00

It can’t, saying we should regulate it is the dumbest thing, and I’m the guy who can’t get any casual sex whatsoever

Mystery_Tragic · 2020-01-26T01:24:02+00:00

Unless somehow women decide to lower their standards than the sexual marketplace will never be regulated.

HWGA_Gallifrey · 2020-01-26T01:32:09+00:00

Society needs to breakdown. This current incarnation is beyond saving.

2020-01-26T03:10:02+00:00

Ban dating apps and the internet so that people have to date those that they meet in real life.

rus9384 · 2020-01-26T04:50:40+00:00

By affecting whom people desire.

WiterS2 · 2020-01-26T06:27:34+00:00

It can't.

You want socialism. It always require state violence, and ends in disaster.

EGOtyst · 2020-01-26T11:26:10+00:00

It's always fair. Full stop.

Fair is people being allowed the film to make whatever choices they want, and then their living with the consequences.

That is what is happening now. Regulation? GTFO.

Dunc0ne · 2020-01-26T14:03:21+00:00

Introduce money?

emerald_priestess · 2020-01-27T10:35:12+00:00

there is no way. you cant order people around. there will be sexual rejects and that's life. they should not be coddled or given access to prostituted partners. no coercion of any kind. live with grace. you do not deserve sex and relationships.

Barely-moral · 2020-01-25T17:23:13+00:00

Remove any and all laws that treat men and women differently. Remove any and all social programs that benefit men and women differently. Health subsidies, affirmative action, etc.

Change marriage and divorce laws so they are fair.

Slut shame.

Women are free to ignore "low value men" because they no longer need to take their resources directly. They can do so through the state. If you remove the state then women will have to provide something to them if they want their resources. And considering how much women use welfare and affirmative action, they clearly want their resources.

cuckspace · 2020-01-25T19:59:12+00:00

Roll back the whole feminism shtick. All freebies, gender quotas and other laws and regulations written to discriminate in favor of women. Women will have to prove their worth on equal standing in academia and the workplace. They will have to deal with the consequences of their choices themselves, for example if they accidentally get pregnant while single. After all, life isn't fair, right?

ColCrin · 2020-01-25T22:19:53+00:00

Ending state enforced cuckoldry so men don't have to bankroll children that aren't theirs. No more welfare for mothers.

bonusfruit · 2020-01-25T23:05:58+00:00

Simple. Removing the handicaps that artificially boost womens power in the market. Nothing else required

BoogersAndSugar · 2020-01-25T20:05:01+00:00

Continued research into better, more reliable and affordable plastic surgery. Instead of more regulation and running the risk of destroying women's freedoms, just make unattractive men decent looking.

AnarchoNAP · 2020-01-26T01:01:30+00:00

Repeal all welfare and criminalize recreational abortions. Right now women feel safe to bang whoever because they know there are backups. Take away the backups and they'll stop doing that. The top 10-20% of men essentially have their sex subsidized by welfare as it makes it cheaper to them with little risks. Since men will still want sex they will all get exactly one woman to support and have sex with.

Not sure which system is preferable to you.

CentralAdmin · 2020-01-25T18:41:04+00:00

How can it be made “fair” without somebody having to relinquish their freedom?

When men relinquish their freedom it's called fair due to male privilege. No male spaces, no preferential hiring, no care for their problems and they have to accept the blame for women feeling unhappy. But any mention of compromise on women's part is bad cos...?

NisKrickles · 2020-01-25T19:36:14+00:00

Elimination of no-fault divorce would go part of the way to making things better. There should be negative material consequences for bad marital actors.

wtknight · 2020-01-25T21:47:25+00:00

Socially shame people for being non-monogamous or for engaging in casual sex. People are still free to do what they want, but there will be a social cost for it, much like how it is now if one is in a large age gap relationship, for instance.

throwawy_12262017 · 2020-01-25T22:04:15+00:00

Take away everyone's credit cards. Being hot is expensive. If you didn't have the M6 cushion to finance the SMP, we'd all be fairly plain but stable.

Riat567 · 2020-01-25T22:24:27+00:00

free plastic surgery

EsauTheRed · 2020-01-25T23:40:55+00:00

It shouldn’t be regulated, but the consequences of the knowledge should take full effect, which will ultimately mean eroding of women’s soft privileges

sparklingscott · 2020-01-26T01:46:08+00:00

Sex robots. The market place is only unfair because most men have no standards.

bssftw · 2020-01-26T02:37:30+00:00

Ban all forms of social media dating and sexual social media DM communication. This would alleviate A LOT of problems. I don't think the market should be regulated at all, just saying this would work/help immensely.

lancebeans · 2020-01-26T07:58:26+00:00

Start making "clones" of beautiful women like in 'Westworld'.

Title	How can the sexual marketplace be “regulated” without basically forcing people to be intimate with those they don’t desire?
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Date	January 25, 2020 5:01 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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