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How do you feel about transactional sex?

October 28, 2019
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For men: Does it bother you how easily and robotically some women engage in sex for money?

For women: Is transactional sex harmful and would you do it (specifically sex for money and other valuables)? Why do you think it's so easy for some women to do this?

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[–]NockerJoePervert Palpatine 23 points24 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

For men: Does it bother you how easily and robotically some women engage in sex for money?

It is what it is man. People are broke and it's fast and easy money on the table. I sell my body all the time. Except when I do it I wear steel toes and it's called labor. I guess it's still labor if you use stilettos.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

😂

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Some things just shouldn't be for sale even though they obviously have a price. Sex and healthcare are both in this category.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I can’t even think of paid sex or prostitution as real sex tbh. Having sex with someone and feigning enjoyment, or at least holding back the “lets get this over with” attitude would be just an acting job in my book. An acting job with physical requirements, and it’s closer in my mind to the woman I knew who was a practice patient for gynecology students than actual sex.

This is obviously a female centric point of view, clearly many men can completely separate the purely physical act of sex from the social and the emotional. But women don’t visit hookers so....To me a male hooker would just be a dildo without a battery, why bother.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agree. I'm a guy but I don't see how using the services of a prostitute could be enjoyable. Seems like cheating.

[–]Pontifex_Lucious-IIEducating Gentiles since 1989 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

RESPECT THE HUSTLE

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

I think any guys who think it’s easy should consider blowing dudes for a living.

[–]Pontifex_Lucious-IIEducating Gentiles since 1989 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Fucking fat chicks without friends finding out for a living*.

Also how to monetize fucking fat chicks.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

It doesn’t matter how fat and ugly a woman is, she can still find a dude to pay HER.

The real trick of a gigalo is to get rich women to love you and think you love them. I know an old lady who left her gay dance instructor veeeery comfortable and I guarantee he never had to fuck her..

Playing the game in reverse is usually a long game

[–]Pontifex_Lucious-IIEducating Gentiles since 1989 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You’ve given this a lot of thought. Email me your business plan. I’m ready to invest.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Move to The Villages in Florida, find childless widows, or even better ones that HATE their greedy kids. Learn ballroom dancing, if you suck at dancing, become a water aerobics instructor. Brag about how you can still drive at night and cuddle ALL that loose flesh.

Oh, and make friends with an estate attorney for all those ironclad will revisions.

[–]MrHerbSherman🤠 howdy 0 points1 point  (14 children) | Copy Link

I thought women are attracted to men tho

Lmao

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

yeah but not to ALL men

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah this girl I know who was an escort had to use lube a lot in her pussy.

[–]Gravel_RoadsJust a Pill 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's the best way to stay on schedule, tbh. When you only have an hour, it's a tight numbers game to make it all run smooth - 15 minutes of "get to know you"/establishing rapport/insinuating into their personal space, 15 minutes of deliberate escalation, 10 minutes of actual sex. If you time it right, you can fit 10 minutes of cuddling and relaxing afterwards before the alarm goes. Pussy doesn't understand nor care that you're on a schedule.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ofc. I get the logic behind it completely. I also wouldn't expect a woman to get wet for any guy that happened to pay her either. So it makes perfect sense.

[–]MrHerbSherman🤠 howdy 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don’t think women are attracted to men in the same way that men are attracted to women, Imo men are much more attracted to women than women are to men

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Lmao indeed. Normal women aren’t attracted to random johns anymore than most straight men are attracted to other men🤷‍♀️

[–]Gravel_RoadsJust a Pill 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

yeah, a few of the escorts I knew were full blown lesbians - not into men at all. It was just a job, for them.

It always cracks me up when straight dudes complain about sex workers making money, when they could be making money doing the same thing, if they were willing to also cater to a male audience. They, too, could make money selling pictures of their assholes to thirsty men on Skype - the only thing stopping them is homophobia.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I have a straight male friend who hustled chicken hawks when he was 14. I’ve never doubted his hetro status either, he is the most Idgaf person I’ve ever met, if he were gay or bi he wouldn’t bother to hide it. He did it for survival and said he just got used to it, but he was famous for telling people, “everytime I had a mouthful of cum I thought there has to be a better way of making a living than this”

[–]Gravel_RoadsJust a Pill 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds right. What you do for a living doesn’t always say much about what you do for fun.

[–]NockerJoePervert Palpatine 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah people don't get the extent to which that kind of thing happens.

[–]wtknightGen X Slacker -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

So do you think that if a heterosexual woman had a choice between sex with a random man who posed absolutely no physical danger to her, and sex with a random woman, she’d be fine with using a coin flip to determine her choice?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, pretty much. Not being attracted is just not being attracted. Having sex with some random stranger I was not at all attracted to would be just that..at best I suppose I could learn to tolerate it, pretend and disconnect.

I’ve never had sex with a woman because I’m not sexually attracted to them, but if I was forced would probably just take the woman. Having unwanted sex would be worse if I was being penetrated.

[–]wtknightGen X Slacker 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks for responding! My wife hates playing the multiple bad choices game so I can never ask her.

I think that it's completely different for men, of course, as heterosexual men would likely find something in almost any unattractive woman to be attracted to rather than have sex with a man.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There is porn for men with just close ups of female genitalia, the women attached might be ugly or ancient, but men won’t even know or care, they will still look at a close up. Women may be interested in our partners genitalia, but usually have little interest in the genitals of some random guy. I think men and women are different in that way.Probably why magazines like Playgirl never took off with straight women.

I find it kind of interesting that of our two sex workers, one transitioned to being a man and the other identifies as asexual. As easy as it probably seems to most guys for women to do sex work, I think it rarely is just a “no big deal” for most women.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think prostitution is probably risky but not inherently harmful. I've never been in a position where it made more sense than just getting a job, but if I was ever single and desperate for cash, then maybe?

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Compartmentalizing sex is easy for some and not so easy for others.

I don’t think transactional sex is harmful but it’s not easy. It’s not an industry built for everyone. Some sex workers really enjoy their profession and others don’t. I think if you are insecure with an inability to be assertive + not having access to tools to keep you safe, then it can be potentially dangerous.

It’s an unregulated industry if it’s illegal and that’s where it’s dangerous.

[–]Gravel_RoadsJust a Pill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agree with every part of this

[–]finch2200 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

As a guy, no. Got to make money somehow, and if there’s demand for what you supply then why not.

This is of course assuming the prostitute in question is self employed and not a traffic victim/drug slave/ desperate, otherwise that brings up moral dilemmas regarding the reason they do their job that I do take issue with.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

For men: Does it bother you how easily and robotically some women engage in sex for money?

Unless she's doing it while she's literally with me, no. Never understood all the neuroticism about this.

[–]Gravel_RoadsJust a Pill 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

For men: Does it bother you how easily and robotically some women engage in sex for money?

No. It also doesn't bother me how desperately and robotically some men seek sex, thus creating the demand that women subsequently supply. I don't care what other people do with their time.

[–]wingbarkMarried Charter Pilot, 1 kid 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It doesn’t matter to me. I’ve never thought about it.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Is transactional sex harmful and would you do it (specifically sex for money and other valuables)?

No, I do not know in what way the existence of prostitution could affect me. Guess it's because, as a woman, you know only a little about the prostitution around you ( if you dont explicitly ask and look for it ). You know where brothels are, you know where peep shows are, but that's about it. There are no women out in front of the shop and everything else is rather restrained from the outside. (As a woman, you are often forbidden to enter the clubs, in some , you can enter as a "non-prostitute" but you are not allowed to do anything with random guests (because of STI's) except with the man you came with.) A well-known brothel owner of my city gave a newspaper interview in which he said he had to close a couple clubs because the business is not as it used to be, there is much less clientele. Prostitute exists, as always, but if you are not a potential customer, it is quite discreet and invisible.

Why do you think it's so easy for some women to do this?

I dont know if it's really that easy for the women, here prostitution is legal and you almost never see locals working in brothels or as online as escorts, it's almost always foreign women from poor countries. It doesnt seem to be a desirable career option for the majority of women if they have other options.

[–]Grundleberries 5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

What does bother me is how many simps out there that are willing to pay for sex.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Why though?

[–]Grundleberries 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's like lootboxes in video games, or all those handling fees you have to pay for a concert ticket, or how there's a billion different monthly streaming services. They get worse as idiots continue to pay for them.

Because there's so many simps out there willing for pay $50 for a handful of Snapchats or will happily take a string of different girls out on no reciprocation dates, the entire market is ruined. Simps have given the rallying call to women that you should never speak to a man without financial recompense.

Venmo me and you might get my attention. Buy me pizza and I might fart in your general vicinity. Take me out to dinner and I'll let you buy my feet pics.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you are overestimating that market though. Yes there are guys who drool over cam types and pay them etc, same on instagram and every other site like that, but its a truly limited number of women and honestly only a certain type of man.

I find paying for that sort of attention pathetic too but there is a limited supply of pathetic people and women who are willing to take their clothes off for pathetic guys for cash.

Really at least prostitutes are giving an honest service for the cash. They want cash, the guy wants sex, price negotiated, etc.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

How do you feel about transactional support for the family and help with your offspring? How do you feel about a man working 10-12 hour days in return for a kept home, happy children, and food on the table? Do you expect a man to "robotically" engage in all of that and expect the woman to be happy about it?

There is nothing at all wrong with, I don't want to do this. There is something wrong with either I won't do this or I will lay there like a corpse and count ceiling tiles. Most women don't tolerate the notion of a man who would wake up and say, "Honey, I don't feel like working or bringing money in, any more, but I expect you to keep the house clean, the kids fed, and me fucked."

Here is a clue when it comes to transactional sex. There are times when women want sex that a man would rather go to sleep. If he rows the boat out because she is horny and he wants her to be happy, isn't that just as equally transacitional sex?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The older I get the less it bothers me(that it happens so much), we are adults and we get our needs met in a variety of ways...some of those way are akin to prostitution...no judgement. Fair trade is not robbery.

But since I understand what transactional sex is, I only want to have sex with women who desire me for the pleasure of me,not my money or other favors.

I think it’s shitty when one party leads the other party on ,that’s shit is fucked up. People do what love and intimacy etc...and to fake those very important things is just very very low.

It also bothers me when other men give up their dignity just for human affection (I’ve done it).

[–]wtknightGen X Slacker 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Does it bother you how easily and robotically some women engage in sex for money?

Not really. I just have no desire to ever date these women. It would bother me if every woman were like this, but I know that they aren’t, thankfully.

[–]Gerealtor 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I have a theory that there are high rates of transgender MTF prostitutes and/or sugar babies because biological males have an easier time engaging in acts like these without being emotionally affected. I think the real reason most women don't do it is because they'll be extremely uncomfortable with and after the physical situation of it. Theres an element of societal shaming too, but I think the first point is a bigger thing than people realise.

I think as long as there are men who'll pay for sexual services, it's fine that there are (willing and adult) women profiting off of that. Seems like a fine deal.

Hell, I'd do it too if I wasnt uncomfortable with the physical act and getting intimate with strangers or people you don't fancy. Don't see a problem with it for what it is.

All I wish for is that things keep moving in the right direction so that women can freely practice these professions without being shamed to hell and back. I mean, she wouldn't be working as a prostitute if there weren't men willing to pay her, so shame both, if any. Or better yet, don't shame either.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

biological males have an easier time engaging in acts like these without being emotionally affected

Yes

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If it's actually transactional, as in the terms are plainly laid out and agreed to by both partners, it's whatever. No feelings in particular about that.

It's the covert contracts around sex that get people in trouble imo.

[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I've had sex with men so I could stay over their place and not have to drive home or because they gave me drugs. Who cares , what could be "harmful" about it

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The amount of girls willing to suck dick for Vyvanse and Xanax is surprising even to me but yeah I'm right with ya.

[–]87AudreyHorne 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it's really subjective. I generally wouldn't have sex for money because I'd rather trade something else for money (like time and sanity - great exchange...) but in principle I get it and dont attach any moral issue to it. I wouldn't be comfortable with it (I am not a client service type of person) and it would be very unpleasant to be that close to clients. However if it was an urgency of course I could do it and it wouldnt traumatize me. It's not that big of a deal, just not something I'd like to do.

[–]geyejoe7No Pill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's something to fill the empty void that is your heart if you need such things.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It grossed me out but at 48 years old I am still naive enough to believe in love.

[–]slavicgypsygirl 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was both a sexual & non sexual sugar baby for three years & have nothing bad to say about it

It was easy for me bc I didn't have arrangements with anyone I wasn't sexually attracted to

[–]FereallyRedglowing at 800 Celsius 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

All sex is transactional.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

As a man I don't really care how prostitutes and escorts go about their business.

But I would never want to be in a marriage where I was being used for my resources. That's a form of transactional sex that many men find themselves in. They agreed to marry a single mom that had kids with some beau but she couldn't lock him down for marriage and so traded sex for resources with a provider type of guy -him. Talk about uninspiring sex! No thanks.

[–]MisterJose 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Man here. It sometimes bothers me that my money is worth that much more than my company. And it's not even that much money. You wouldn't give me the time of day otherwise, but would grind on my cock for $30?

I do think there is some grey area there much of the time. You don't meet a lot of frigid women at the strip club. If you're a slut and broke, might as well get paid for being a slut, right? I can get that.

I do see, sometimes, a certain amount of entitlement regarding the sex industries. I mean, these are not and have never been remotely options for me, and we're in the age of equality, so why are you entitled to be able to make money being a cam girl?

[–]Eastuss༼ つ ▀̿_▀̿ ༽つ 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

As a man, what bothers me is women saying men used them when women used themselves for transactional sex. Transactional sex is not only about money, lot of women get into transactional sex for commitment.

[–]teepy -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

: Does it bother you how easily and robotically some women engage in sex for money?

Definitely not at all.

I mean, look at the world around you. The world is already degenerated. Hypergamy has made me realize that women will do anything for higher % male. And all the sex positive mindset has enabled women to act slutty without any limits or without facing consequences. Many of these women already give away sex like its water to 20% of men.

...and now, suddenly, men are getting shamed because they paid for sex? Its basically a archaic conservative mindset that feminists have re-purposed into a "akshcually we want to save women!!" bullshit.

If you want to be sex positive, embrace it all the way, not in a "more for mee, nothing for you" hypocritical way.

Transactional sex should be made legal, this way, the price will drop from the premium prices that we have today to an affordable range.

[–]NockerJoePervert Palpatine 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Transactional sex should be made legal, this way, the price will drop from the premium prices that we have today to an affordable range.

They already are. The average price of a prostitute it almost half what it was like a decade or two ago in a lot of places. Every eGirl will tell you selling nudes is easy fast cash but they make in a month what most plumbers make in a day or two at best. The market is oversaturated to shit and back and any dude who cares can probably find some broke college girl who'll flash her vag to a webcam for $5. If you're willing to go for older or ethnic models that price drops down to less than half in a lot of cases.

A lot of people want to drive this legal and cultural divide between the free emancipated women asking and the skeevy pervert buying but the fact is the more women feel free and emancipated the better it is for the skeevy pervert. Playboys weird quarterly SJW direction is failing because anyone who wants to see tits and pay money can probably get an 8 to scream his name out while anal fisting three or four times for what it costs to buy a nudie magazine or some publication that actually pays these emancipated women even half decently.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

All sex (all human interaction really) is transactional to some extent. There's always background math being done, motivating and demotivating forces at work. Prostitution is just a more direct form of payment.

[–]MrHerbSherman🤠 howdy -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Tbh I don’t mind doing a transaction for MARRIAGE, ie, a defined partnership for the creation of a family, based on resources, wealth, capacity, position etc. I will give comfort and provisioning for my family, I will build something with the right woman

But I don’t like transactional sex, if it’s just sex then the only transaction is sex for sex and mutual desire. I will give sex for sex and that’s it, a good time for a good time. I mean if that means just dropping a few bucks on drinks I personally don’t care but I know some women interpret it as provisioning so even with that I’ll watch it

[–]87AudreyHorne 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Tbh I don’t mind doing a transaction for MARRIAGE, ie, a defined partnership for the creation of a family, based on resources, wealth, capacity, position etc. I will give comfort and provisioning for my family, I will build something with the right woman

Would you really be comfortable doing this knowing she doesnt love you (I'm assuming this is implied by transactional)? Why?

[–]MrHerbSherman🤠 howdy 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh I just mean that there’s a transactional element to it, like her job and career and intelligence are factors in whether I’d marry her, even though I don’t really “feel” anything as a result of those things. Likewise I’m sure she’s not attracted to my money or whatever

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

All sex is transactional.

[–]shonenhikada -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You realize that when it comes to men not in the top 20% of males all sex is transnational; its doesn't have to be strictly money for it to be transnational.

[–]sadomasochristNo pull out game -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Every single one of them are damaged beyond repair and selling something far more valuable than their charge.

“Whoring yourself out” is slang for selling something at a value far below true market value.

So as a society we innately understand this even if we’re going to engage in pedantic academic arguments here otherwise.

[–]LotBuilder -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I appreciate their honesty and strait forward nature.

That being said, I would never buy a used car that was a previous daily rental.

[–]ontherailstoday -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think part of the the problem with the three motivations for sex all existing (wanting sex because want the physical sensation, wanting sex because want deeper intimacy with the person involved, want sex to benefit in some way other way from the transaction be it $200 in your pocket or your parents getting off your back because now you've got a serious girlfriend huzzah!) is that motivations can become very complex, too complex for us to easily deal with emotionally. It is a recipe for unreasonable expectations and expecting one thing and getting another. It is also a recipe for people who are not socially adept and skilled at reading motivations to end up very disappointed.

One thing we rarely mention about the very specific form of transactional sex we call "whoring" is that just about every whore misleads clients as to the degree of the two other motivations he or she holds for having sex. Those are lies that support the transaction, be it theatrical moaning or reassuring a client they are a more desirable person than they really are.

Buying sex, if you can not keep your sense of reward from it it strictly to the physical sensation, is in my opinion a form of self harm. If you can keep intimate relations to the strictly physical, you're not my type of person.

What I feel about outright selling sex is it isn't just another job, it is a job that a great many people including me have serious ethical difficulties with. I really don't want anything to do with whores. I count them somewhere below dodgy used care sellers and people who fence stolen goods in terms of how much I want anything to do with them on a personal level. I don't really want anything to do with the clients of whores. I count them as either dangerously deluded or cold as ice.

A slight transactional nature to sex is of course are more acceptable when what is happening is that someone chooses first to explore first the most financially/practically/socially rewarding relationship partner from among a whole field of possibles who are otherwise somewhat equal in desirability. It is OK to say to yourself "I'll ask Betty to the prom first rather than Marie because Betty says her parents are willing to let her date borrow her dad's sportscar" and it is OK to say to yourself "Well Bob and Phil are both hot as heck but Phil has a job that could actually support a wife and kids, so let's dangle IOIs in front of Phil first." These things are still somewhat transactional, but more acceptable.

Sorry whores and johns, you are broken people.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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