I hold the view that Endomorphs have it really bad when it comes to attractiveness and acquiring a mate. Ectomorphs have the lean advantage.

ScootsScoots · 2019-10-25T02:20:59+00:00

No, its diet. You may be predisposed to hold onto fat easier but your body cant create calories that dont exist so throw this fat excuse stuff out the window right now.

Yeah, you'll have to eat better, just like tall people have to work harder to put on muscle mass if they wanna be bulked up.

The fact is nobody needs a french fry and none of us should be eating this shit. Just because some people can get away with it doesnt mean you have a valid excuse to be a fatass.

DoneBeenHadBeenDone · 2019-10-25T01:08:00+00:00

I think mesomorphs have the highest advantages. They can look thin, or more buff, depending on how they tweak their diets and excercise regimen. Ectomorphs can come off as too thin, or tall for some people, and tend to have an unhealthy, or less feminine appearance.

philmarcracken · 2019-10-25T04:01:47+00:00

There is no scientific basis for any 'morphs'. If you consume more kcal than you use per day, the excess is stored as fat.

I agree that exercise is almost entirely pointless for substantial weightloss, but as for general health, nothing could be better for you. If you whine about having to count kcal and know your TDEE(free calculators online) then blame your health education for not informing you of everything else the body does for you automatically:

Blood volume
Water volume
Oxygen
CSF
pH
Glucose levels

This is the ONE thing you have to track yourself. If you don't count, the body still does.

erman88 · 2019-10-25T07:02:15+00:00

This is complete nonsense, benefits of diet and exercise are scientifically proven to be able to lower body fat % and increase muscle mass.

There is no scientific evidence to support any type of these "morphs"

katymarx · 2019-10-25T03:36:04+00:00

I've never heard 50/50 from any fitness or nutritional professional.

xXxINCELFAGGOTxXx · 2019-10-25T05:57:48+00:00

All those "morphs" are outdated terms no longer viable. It comes down to the bone structure and where you store fat. For example, having thin bones as a man, no matter how lean you are is a curse.

anitapk · 2019-10-25T07:22:24+00:00

Calories in and calories out. The rest is bullshit.

shithappenslol · 2019-10-25T12:06:51+00:00

I have Hashimoto’s thyroiditis. Basically, I have no working metabolism so I have to take medicine everyday to trick my body into thinking it’s still working.

Before I got treatment I was walking around with an extremely slow metabolism for about ~3 months. Do you know how much weight I gained?

0 lbs.

Do you know why? It’s because I didn’t eat like a fat fuck. I’ve had this condition for ~3 years know and I’m actually skinnier than before I had it, because I don’t eat like a fat fuck.

Diet is 100% responsible for your weight.

pngmafia97 · 2019-10-25T01:22:44+00:00

Mesomorphs have it best. Toned arms and legs and bouncy ass is important in 2019. Stick arms and legs work for models but it’s not the 90s anymore

jmitch88 · 2019-10-25T01:51:35+00:00

Most athletic men find ectomorph “bony” or “nothing to enjoy” the meso’s have the advantage. By 2019 standards an underweight endomoroph is going to get the lions share of attention. Thicc hips and ass, large breast and underfed frame is the standard basically as fake as can be aka Kim Kardashian’s( men today still wonder who buys her shit and it’s overwhelmingly women)

Eastuss · 2019-10-25T07:08:32+00:00

The picture you linked is bullshit. The endomorph women are not pear shaped at all. Endomorph people are all just either slim and rectilinear or fat and round, they accumulate fat internally and on the belly. This isn't a question of being fat or not, but of how your skeleton is and where you get fat.

Mesomorphs are best, not ectomorphs. Ectomorphs might age better.

Exercise merely makes up 20% of all calories burned (regardless of effort), the rest is "resting metabolic rate", genetics, hormones and metabolism.

Metabolism is also merely 20% of calories burned.

Exercising is important to make sure you have more muscle than fat, which isn't the case when you only do a diet.

PickUpScientist · 2019-10-25T07:21:59+00:00

I disagree that it is diet or exercise that is 100% the cause of people being overweight. Exercise merely makes up 20% of all calories burned (regardless of effort), the rest is "resting metabolic rate", genetics, hormones and metabolism. So basically without genetic determinism you might as well not bother spending hundreds on gym membership.

you skipped diet and simply explained how exercise alone isn't effective. diet is key.

if anyone is an endomorph, i probably am, and i did spend the majority of my life fat. 23andme says i have a proclivity towards gaining weight, so i reject the notion some others are stating that all people gain weight equally. i don't think its a coincidence when the majority of people with certain dna markers all end up fat, so i agree with you to that extent.

i was able to balance the metabolism equation by adding some muscle mass. its less of an option for women, but a woman can put on a decent amount of muscle before it ceases to be conventionally attractive, and there are a lot of guys who are into buff chicks even after that point (a growing majority of buff guys, for example).

just being toned might be enough to turn the tide for many women, most of whom never build up their muscles at all. i think this is a mistake.

Jaeger__85 · 2019-10-25T07:54:56+00:00

Somatypes are pseudo science.

Taipanshimshon · 2019-10-25T12:24:13+00:00

I used to think I was an endomorph until I started lifting heavy weights regularly.

And then I found out I'm what ever I choose to be.

Don't give yourself more excuses. That's not helpful.

poppy_blu · 2019-10-25T01:02:54+00:00

Inb4 “there’s no such thing as Ectomorph and Endomorph REEEEEE!!”

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rus9384 · 2019-10-25T06:46:01+00:00

Most men and women would agree that the architype female ideal is ectomorphic.

This is the only point where we might disagree. Among the depicted shapes mesomorph is the most appealing. I am not talking just about me, it's the mainstream preference.

I disagree that it is diet or exercise that is 100% the cause of people being overweight.

As a guy who ate in McDonalds every working day (my meals at home also were not salads) and maintained 22.5 BMI I totally agree.

The ideal standard whether male or female is a mix of Mesomorph onto Ectomorph benefitting from the build of a Meso, but having the height and metabolism of an Ecto.

Perhaps the Cool Girl is an ecto but who looks like a depicted meso because she eats high calorie food (and still goes to the gym).

diffdedbed · 2019-10-25T07:37:55+00:00

I'm drunk and tired so no pulling punches. Ecto meso Endo is bullshit. Ecto means you eat to much fatty. Meso means you work out, and eat just enough endo means you don't eat enough and don't even lift.

I was a fat fatty cause I ate too much. I fucking ate less and lifted and woo now I'm a fucking meso fucking hotties.

If you are fat it's on fucking you.

I'm now going to sleep.

geyejoe7 · 2019-10-25T11:04:14+00:00

Ectomorphs make the most attractive women.

Men are naturally more drawn to them. It's sad, but it's a fact. And if you are an endomorph as a female, you're kind of fucked unless you work on it. Unless your fat is distributed well, then you are even more attractive then ectomorphs.

And I completely disagree with what you said about fitness.

If you intake 1200 calories (so you can be in a state where your body is losing weight, and spend time on the treadmill, and weight training, you can easily burn most of what you took in. Not to mention you will burn calories throughout the day by just existing lol.

So if you do that, you will gradually go towards your ideal weight and bodyfat %.

Will it be much more difficult to keep that weight if you are an endomorph? Yes. When you run you will also burn a bit of muscle. So for endomorph dudes it's an absolute nightmare.

But if you're just trying to be skinny, while difficult, its possible.

But endomorphs are generally found to be more attractive in men. So if you are one, all you would need to do is bulk up, without paying much attention to calories. The more the better. As long as you intake protein aswell.

Even though recently I've hear a lot of talk about dad bods and "beefy daddies" (muscular and fat) being attractive to women.

In the end, mesomorphs are superior to all of us.

nevomintoarce · 2019-10-25T16:32:49+00:00

If you're ectomorph and a female you're automatically LTR or wife material.

jmitch88 · 2019-10-28T18:53:07+00:00

Pretty sure bone and body structure play into body types. I had a coworker really into body type studies. He was reading a book that attempted to make personality correlations to body type. It was interesting the way our metabolism effects so many aspects of our life and development

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