I thought this exchange between u/Narniafox and u/GenZedEd was interesting, it was in a post about what women bring to the table regarding relationships and what they want men to bring to the table.
Narniafox wrote that she wanted a partner with:
Similar values (no homophobe/misogynist/pro-lifer/racist/deeply religious etc, cares about environment) Clean criminal records Similar plans/inspirations At least some similar hobbies/interests, interest in at least some kind of art Likes pets and wants to have some of their own Has plans for the future and works on fulfilling them Financially stable - can support their own lifestyle We find each other sexually attractive and have similar kinks Values my pleasure Good at communication, can make compromises Emotionally stable, is in touch with their feelings, can show their vulnerability and be there when I'm vulnerable Is in a good mood more often than in the opposite of it Supportive, honest, caring, attentive Acts according to their morals Patient to my quirks and doesn't get irritated with them easily Okayish family and parents would be preferable, but not necessarily.
This list seem reasonable enough to me but other posters like GenZedEd disagreed writing:
And this...this right here gentlemen is why close to a majority of women in this generation will die alone. Assuming she even finds a man encompassing all these qualities, think of the options available to said hypothetical man. Why settle for her? Is she more attractive, submissive or feminine than the women open to dating him? What does she bring to his table? And such a man can only settle with one woman. Ultimately unless the commenter above is in the top 20% of women (In physical attractiveness) her chances are slim. HVM do nor ignore dozens 9's and 10's to settle with 7's. Eventually unless she is significantly better looking than most women this Disney, "perfect-man", build-a-boy delusion will fade and she'll either be single to the grave or settle.
Oh nice the whole "I don't need no man who can't meet my standards" schtick. Crazy how women have all these lists yet a majority of you still end up as raggedy single moms or old divorcees. Again who are you women? You broads will whip up a 16 point checklist of what you deserve in a man in a couple minutes, but where are all the points for what you can offer a man?? Half of you are offended at the thought of making a sandwich, paying for dinner and not talking too much but we're the ones who have no business being in a relationship.
Others wrote they find her list unreasonable too.
Anyways, I thought I was going crazy reading some of the replies because nothing about her list struck me as unreasonable but obviously some disagree and me being a woman means I can’t see their point of view. For those who do, why? And is this what men mean when they say women have unreasonable standards?
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