In 2014 what should people do regarding "marriage'?

SirNemesis · 2015-01-16T20:17:47+00:00

You do realize it's 2015 right?

Not exactly like getting married young to their SMP peer virgin is a feasible option for most men.

cxj · 2015-01-16T15:42:09+00:00

I will tell both RP annd BP something

Unless you are married, the other whole generations of adults around you do not respect you or take you seriously. Other men take men more seriously in the world when they are married. Do you see a SINGLE man in the super successful upper caste, politics or finance unmarried? No.

Also, marriage is increasingly a hallmark of the upper castes

If any of you women think you want to be someones "girlfriend" at 38--please call me when you get there and tell me how much you like it

YaBoiTibzz · 2015-01-16T20:01:23+00:00

The ideal avenue for RP is to avoid marriage entirely. The fantasy of marrying a 18 year old submissive virgin is just that, a fantasy. It's no more realistic for a man to expect that than it is for women raised on Disney movies to expect that they will be able to marry a Prince Charming. If marriage must be undertaken for some reason, an RP man would want to go for an iron clad prenupt, or marry a woman that is far below him in SMV so she will be unlikely to branch swing on him later. And kids would need to be avoided if at all possible as well.

nopbeentheredonethat · 2015-01-16T15:54:23+00:00

The ideal RP wife is "submissive, young, stay-at-home, virgin, fit" according to a lot of RP men.

Ideal are just that "Ideal" Reality is very different. It's important to know what you want out of life and then make the right choice to get you there. For a woman making that choice early can be a blessing for her and her future family.

You want to be a mother and have lot's of little children then some life choice like raking huge student debt for a career you would barely participate in would not only be a waste of your time but also put a lot of financial stress for your future family.
You want to have a strong career and value your independence. Maybe getting engage with a man who want a family is not the greatest of ideas.

In conclusion know what you want first out of life then do you best to make the best decision about it.

exit_sandman · 2015-01-16T16:03:48+00:00

The RP advice (apart from "don't marry you f'ing n00b") would be as you outlined - pick a compliant young woman with a very low n-count who (genuinely) dreams of being a SAHM.

My personal advice would differ, but this is due to me having perceived enough of the downsides of this - it would be more "watch out for every red flag TRP identifies, but don't overrate what TRP identifies as 'green flags' ", so to speak.

How difficult or easy do you think it is to find a woman willing to do that without the incentives of year's past?

Very difficult, especially outside of religious communities.

[deleted] · 2015-01-16T21:08:15+00:00

Ideal situation is this. Fuck sluts ages 18-31. Around 32 start considering finding a long term mate. Go as low in age as you possibly can. I'd say 22 or 23, a girl who hasn't slutted around at all and has only had long term partners (taken under 10 dicks, preferably no more than 5 if possible). If you can't find a girl up to your taste in the West then go to Eastern Europe.

What's the incentive for her to want to give up her life's trajectory to submit to yours?

obviously you have to be somewhat baller.

throwinout · 2015-01-17T03:35:02+00:00

There is no good way to go about this. To me, marriage is a necessary evil. You won't be seen a full member of society without it, you risk a lot while in it.

My preferred method of dealing with it is relying on Stoicism. I figure that if I get involved with a woman, bad things (which are out of my control) will happen. But I'll just carry on.

[deleted] · 2015-01-17T16:53:59+00:00

What is the ideal situation for an RP man?

Not being married.

What age do you marry?

Don't get married.

How old are you?

Never get married

How old is she?

She would be smart not to marry you.

What's the incentive for her to want to give up her life's trajectory to submit to yours?

Doesn't matter, a RP man doesn't require or demand things from people. He sprints his own way and his own path. If she wants to run alongside you for a while she's welcome to, just don't get in the way.

How difficult or easy do you think it is to find a woman willing to do that without the incentives of year's past?

Pretty easy if you are running on a path that doesn't suck. Usually people like following cool people and good paths.

previously it was beneficial for a woman to marry young to a man because he likely had more opportunity than her to make substantial money and it was likely frowned upon for her to even consider a "career." Again, she was incentivized to marry young and submit.

This is known as prostitution. Actual prostitution is cheaper and easier. If you want a woman to do this then get a pro.

Cyralea · 2015-01-16T17:27:10+00:00

You're asking questions of two disparate groups here. Consider that RP men and RP women can have entirely different goals, which means that their strategies may not overlap.

What is the RP advice to young men who want virgin brides?

Then he should marry a virgin bride. I'm working with the assumption that marriage here is a given (i.e. religious reasons). He can use many facets of TRP to accomplish that. In fact, he likely will need every bit of it to maintain his marriage afterwards.

What is their advice to young women?

From TRP's main sub? We're not concerned with female sexual strategy except where it affects ours, so our advice may or may not be to a woman's best interest. I'd probably suggest doing everything that a typical high-SMV man finds attractive and put myself in a position to find such men.

Do I deny my genuine intellectual interests in the name of a possible husband

You make a concession. Which is more important to you? If someone asked me whether or not they should travel the world or work on starting a career at home I'd say the same thing. You can't do both.

The ladies at RPW are much better at answering the 'how' part of it.

What is the ideal situation for an RP man? What age do you marry?

Never. Second-most ideal situation is marrying when your SMV is at its peak, because that's when you have the most options. Early 30's or so.

She'd be young. 18-23.

What's the incentive for her to want to give up her life's trajectory to submit to yours?

Being with a high value man. If someone told you that Channing Tatum wanted to marry you, but you'd have to give up your career, you might just consider it. And if you didn't, lots of girls (including intellectual ones) would.

How difficult or easy do you think it is to find a woman willing to do that without the incentives of year's past?

Insanely difficult. Women genuinely believe that they can have it all. They don't really want to do much to earn a high quality man. Another reason why marriage is a suckers game for men.

cxj · 2015-01-16T21:46:53+00:00

Marriage is an archaic institution designed around a radically different society. People married young back in the day because they died young anyways. Marrying at 17 isn't that young if most people die at 40 to 50. Its about the equivalent of marrying at 30 now and living till 70 or 80. Also, people really needed gender specific skills for survival, ie men needed to be hard and tough to fight off other tribes, hunt, pull ploughs etc and women needed to know how to find the most nutritious berries, salt the meat for the winter, manage a childs fever etc. Modern technological industrial society has made this less true.

My point here is that trying to do things the old way in modern society has a huge chance of failure with severe consequences. Young marriages simply don't last. People looking to marry young as virgins and have a stay at home mom do not often have the resources or support system to make that happen.

I just don't think marriage works anymore.

That rp model of marrying a young virgin will not happen for the vast majority. A few might make it happen.

As for women i won't give them advice, im not one of them.

namae_nanka · 2015-01-16T19:41:18+00:00

Coming from a culture with arranged marriages still ruling the roost, it's like being a great grandparent in 2014 america.

As I remarked before, religion is a technology based on the proto-science of human behavior; not letting teenagers rut themselves to pansexuality before marriage which is predicated on reproduction and not economic gay equality is still the best way.

b-but muh interests and expectations and we don't even know each other!!!

shush

Lets say I'm an 18 year old woman.

By then it's already too late, for all the brouhaha about the girls being brainwashed into non-STEM, they are already brainwashed into equality agenda with boys. Title IX extends this to even non-tomboys, so it's rather amusing to see criticisms of folks like gamergaters as being teenagers. Feminism doesn't even gets off the pre-pubescent hankering.

Betty Friedan's times were boring for women at home, but there is so much personal entertainment now, their real worry should be a progressive patriarchy where women go out to work while men plays with their PS4s and of course PC masteraces. A patriarchal feminism correcting for all those bad years of radical patriarchs, this patriarchy helps women too, comrade!

-SetsunaFSeiei- · 2015-01-16T15:41:29+00:00

I once started a thread here about what RP men had to offer their future wives. They had this laundry list of qualities of what the ideal wife would be, so I was curious as to what they thought they would offer this perfect ideal wife, should they meet her. It was under a past account so I don't know if I could find it, but the answers were interesting. Most hadn't thought about it and really had trouble answering, like, I had to hound some people to get an answer, despite them obsessing about what a perfect future wife would do. Some said they would "provide." One or two went into frame holding and the captain/FO dynamic.

It was interesting, to be sure. Made we wonder if RP encourages their own version of the Prince Charming fairytale. How much work do you have to put into a marriage if your SO is perfect?

drok007 · 2015-01-16T19:02:10+00:00

I will marry at the age I'm prepared to provide for a wife and kids. I wouldn't marry until I'm ready to have kids anyway. She is younger than me. Her incentive is that she doesn't make that much money and I do, also she would rather focus on taking care of our kids then slave away at some job. Pretty easy to find women like this.

Edit: clarifying words.

winndixie · 2015-01-17T22:26:46+00:00

Whatever the fuck they want. Just don't whine to others about choices you made.

winndixie · 2015-01-17T22:37:25+00:00

Lets say I'm an 18 year old woman. Do I go to school? Do I hone my brain?

Why not both? Realize both choices are available to women now and don't be surprised if you had to sacrifice aspects of one for the other.

Do I deny my genuine intellectual interests in the name of a possible husband who is going to scoop me up and take care of me as long as he has access to my vagina and his clothes are ironed/meals cooked/etc...? Is this my "fantasy life" or his? I mean I could very well take care of myself, does this RP life make me happy? Do I find a job before I find a husband? I have to pay rent, don't I?

What you suggested is not indicative of any 18 year old woman. You suggested that intellectual interests are genuine by adding that word in. You added doubt in the choice for marriage by using the word "possible".

Your diction reveals your very subjective stance. You injected your opinion in what should have been an objective question, in a subtle way. It doesn't matter if it is "his" fantasy life, you should only follow it if it is your fantasy life, too. Not every woman is like this 18 year old.

Oh, and not every marriage is straight, why did you assume the husband was going to be a "him"?

ianturpiesmoustache · 2015-01-16T15:47:43+00:00

TRP ideal of a man screwing around until he's ready to settle is more than okay, but they seem to think women are/should be excluded from doing the same. If there's nothing wrong with a man displaying his sexuality, there's nothing wrong with the woman he's displaying it with (or a woman who decides to display their sexuality with someone else).

The double standard pisses me off to no end.

philomexa · 2015-01-16T15:38:21+00:00

I'll be impressed if a RP dude genuinely answers this question, rather than deflect with 'lolol marriage is for chumps!, I'm just gonna bang random young pussy for the rest of my life!!'

Title	In 2014 what should people do regarding "marriage'?
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Date	January 16, 2015 3:32 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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