From approaching, to asking people out, to initiating and performing sex, to proposing marriage, men play the active role whereas women have a reactive role.
Far too often, I see women trying to rationalize their effort and input into situations as being more than it actually is. No man would agree with a woman that women put in as much or more effort into all sex-related interactions than men do, because we all know from experience that this claim is BS.
Women also try to exclaim that they put in effort during sex, but I think this is just women feeling like the effort that they do put in is equivalent in some way because it feels like effort to them, whereas on an objective scale compared to their male counterparts, it isn't really comparable.
For example, when talking about "sexual performance," men's performance is akin to athletic performance, while women's performance is akin to a stage/acting performance. I don't think anyone needs to be a kinetic physicist to know which one requires more energy or effort to do.
"but this one time, I........"
"but my friend did....."
"b-but...... but........"
No buts. It's hard to believe that this is even a discussion topic up for debate, but leave it to people who try to rationalize and inflate the importance and involvement of their own effort so they don't have to feel any guilt or appear lazy, I guess.
That's it. In my opinion, this isn't really debatable, yet is still debated, so let's put it to rest.
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This is how it is for many animals in nature. Men have the "mating dance".
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Remind me to never give men blowiobs because "its not our fault men get pleasure from what isn't really sex"
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Ask her to get on top sometimes? How hard is this.
Feminists talk about women being socialized and seen in society as acted upon instead of actors. But you all laugh or get mad. So instead of constantly examining society, some people wake from their slumber when it affects them and wonder what the hell is going on.
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So she’s supposed to read your mind? I thought only women wanted that from people. It may feel better for her when the man is on top. So ask her to do something different for you.
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Ok go through life thinking other people are “just supposed” to do what you want.
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Now I agree with women participating to achieve pleasure. Did you see where I said that may not be the most pleasurable position for her? Communication is participation too.
I do think because most men are raring to go and just hop on, women can think that’s what he wants or get complacent. But you can ask for what you want or not.
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Communication during sex is a form of participation in it.
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