Interesting study on infants that are not socially attentive

hippydipster · 2015-09-17T21:23:23+00:00

Are red pillers wired in a way that makes them disinterested in others and thus disconnected from others and social cues that would make them able to normally connect (compared to normal children who are frequently monitoring, engaging, and thus learning from their social environment)?

My guess is that men, in general, are more autistic than women.

Only the most charming and empathetic of men is on par with the average woman, in terms of perceiving social cues.

For myself, I am one of those few truly socially adept men. I don't need Red Pill or game; it came naturally to me. I just like to watch the arguments and weigh in when Red Pill has something correct.

hippydipster · 2015-09-17T21:18:51+00:00

Speaking just from my own experience: I wasn't all that popular, but I was gregarious, outgoing and directly engaging until I was about 13. I started demonstrating some overconfidence and attempts at AMOGing (what girls today call "swagger"). Starting then, my parents and everyone else started systematically crushing that "swagger" out of me. I was told repeatedly not to show any of it; that it was rude and offputting; and that if I did not change my personality I risked jail and a criminal record. Everyone around me told me this. Everyone.

I was told that no one liked confidence, overconfidence, or any kind of confidence in boys and young men; that confidence was in truth being a macho asshole and a cover for deep insecurity; and that the only way to "grow" as a man was to "emote" and "share my feelings" with everyone around me.

I know, I know. "Autistic spergy retard!" "I don't believe people told you any of that!" "What are you, an idiot for listening to people tell you those things!"

anon_throwaway0 · 2015-09-17T21:43:43+00:00

If women didnt have vaginas, assholes, mouth im pretty sure 95% of men wouldn't want anything to do with them. OR to put it another way, if men didnt have sex drives at all, all women would be pretty much left alone, especially the ugly ones, sure they would be nice to look at, but without knowing what it's like to stick your dick inside them and without that drive that humans have women wouldn't have even been needed or "invented"

drok007 · 2015-09-17T22:18:25+00:00

Are there any red pillers that were highly socially adept/aware/interested growing up?

Yes.

Red pillers that really connected with others (male and female peers) and valued that connection with others?

Want to try and use less vague terms? Otherwise I'm just going to say yes.

If so, what drew you to red pill?

It is correct.

Do you feel like you are atypical for a red piller?

RP? No, but TRPers aren't even like most RPers.

Archwinger · 2015-09-17T21:24:29+00:00

I probably have some mild, super-high functioning form of Asperger's, though I've never been diagnosed. Back when I was a kid growing up, we didn't diagnose every single kid with a thing. People were allowed to succeed, fail, be different from each other, be strange, be normal, be cool, and life was fine.

Back then, you could actually fail math because you were dumb instead of getting diagnosed with some kind of learning disability, and if you were a weird kid who didn't have a lot of friends and kids beat the hell out of you at recess, schools would put a stop to the beatings, but they wouldn't diagnose the weird kid with a thing.

In modern times, we have this fixation with nobody being worse than anybody else, so if a kid is socially retarded, we diagnose him with one thing, and if he doesn't sit still and pay attention in class, we diagnose him with another, and if he sucks at certain classes, there's a label for that, too. Now, nobody sucks at anything. Everybody has a label for whatever's wrong with them, and it's that label's fault.

I think Red Pillers span the spectrum. Some of them are probably social retards who would have stared at the red ball as an infant and aren't that interested in other people, but use The Red Pill to fake it and get laid. Some of them are probably perfectly normal socially, but they suck with girls because they keep trying to be nice and respectful instead of confident and selfish.

fundude1 · 2015-09-17T21:05:25+00:00

I was pretty socially adept and can bang women easily in my 30s.

Just think TRP explains female nature in the West quite well.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2015-09-18T01:31:30+00:00

A less insinuating way to say what youre trying to say is that TRP are likely to be Object-oriented or Systems-oriented high systematizers, rather than People-oriented high empathizers. I am female, i agree with everything TRP describes, I was perfectly fine socially, have always had BFs since i was 14, was engaged once and am now married. I was senior class president and work in sales. I have no trouble with people, but I am Systems oriented high systematizer who unequivocally objectifies and systematizes the humans and relate to them intellectually rather than empathetically in general. if and when i love people it is because i have made them an extension of myself

Chigibow · 2015-09-18T00:18:01+00:00

Are red pillers wired in a way that makes them disinterested in others and thus disconnected from others and social cues that would make them able to normally connect (compared to normal children who are frequently monitoring, engaging, and thus learning from their social environment)?

No.

TLDR:

"Study shows that retarded people are retarded. Are red pillers also retarded?"

I will never understand threads like this.

Tom_The_Human · 2015-09-19T09:39:18+00:00

Sperglord here. Men are undoubtedly more autistic than women (there have been studies on this) and I'd wager that TRP definitely attracts a lot of autists due to the fact that it breaks down social interactions and uses ideas/terms (such as shit tests and dread) to explain, to the reader, basic principles of human interactions (although it's not as extreme in this regard as PUA).

duckman998 · 2015-09-20T02:38:19+00:00

(1) most Red Pillers are not natural RPers. They are not Chads. Hence the taking of a pill. They realized what does and doesn't work. (2) sounds to me like you undervalue sexual gratification. sex naturally begets a deeper connection. If someone fucked your girlfriend, 9 times out of 10 he could easily establish a deep emotional connection to if he wanted.

ReginaRadfem · 2015-09-17T22:57:59+00:00

I fully agree with you OP.

Personally, I think members of TRP are violent, dangerous psychopaths almost without exception. Granted, most men are already a latent threat to women, with the way our society normalizes abuse of women through rape culture, objectification, etc. Men score high for violent, narcissistic tendencies in every relevant study. But redpill men go farther and actively embrace sexism, in the same way that KKK members or nazis embrace racism.

Concepts like LMR and dread game show that RP men are hyper focused on the abuse and control of women. Realistically, it would be best if these individuals were placed in mental care facilities for the safety of the women around them. Speaking at a broader, societal level, redpill men are a classic example of what can happen when patriarchy and privilege reign unchecked. Perhaps not every white male is guilty of being a member of TRP, but they are certainly guilty in enabling its existence by allowing the system of privilege and oppression to continue unabated, leading to extremes like TRP.

I think it would be appropriate to have a discussion at some point whether the existence of TRP should be brought to the attention of the FBI, law enforcement, etc, because I see each and every one of them as a potential Eliot Roger in the making.

It's strange that people are simply ridiculing TRP or satirizing them, rather than taking them seriously as a threat to women. TRP is seriously comparable to the KKK, or Nazi movement. They're driven by this extremely misogynistic idealogy. Perhaps TRP is even worse than those groups because their idealogy has yet to be fully discredited by society.

Sometimes I actually fear for my life thinking about the fact that any man around me might potentially be a member of TRP.

Title	Interesting study on infants that are not socially attentive
Author	taiboworks
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Date	September 17, 2015 9:04 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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