I had an interesting discussion with a purple pill woman on this sub. Her argument was that because virgins do not (mostly) have useful insight into the other gender (and I suppose that would go for homosexuals and lesbians too?): their conversations are not useful to the theme of the sub which is about gender dynamics and how sexual mating strategy applies, I suppose. I disagreed with her because as I see it sexual mating strategy is still important for us to be successful, especially so if we are starting from square zero (we want to point out how certain tenets may or may not be useful to us). You could argue that theorising about strategy is useless but that applies to non-virgins also.
You could argue that most pill theory (blue/red) is typically designed for people starting from a baseline of experience but then the original pill theory (red) has already been expanded well beyond its original target audience (mostly average men) toward a host of other people (married men, women, married women and even incels - "black pill"). You could also argue that virgin perspectives are minority viewpoints on PPD but rule 9 would indicate that minority perspectives are important as per the spirit (contrasted to the letter) of the law.
If pill theory was mostly directed towards an average demograph with sexual experience then their experiences are in some ways not valid for late in life virgin men (who already have significant struggles with the dating market being male) because most of these people do not have the experience of overcoming that barrier (the unattractiveness of being a late in life virgin man). So we would rightfully want to reject most of blue pill (the anti-theory that you don't need theory in dating) and red pill (their own theories for an average populace to be successful in dating).
Tl;Dr
Virgin men have minority viewpoints that is crucial to diverse discussion on PPD regardless of hang-ups people have about experience. They want to talk about how gender dynamics applies to them too. Analytical men need dating theory.
[–]atlantic68Purple Shill19 points20 points21 points (79 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points (78 children) | Copy Link
[–]WhatIsTheMeaningHere4 points5 points6 points (68 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points (67 children) | Copy Link
[–]whitetrashcarlselfish ghost5 points6 points7 points (38 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points (37 children) | Copy Link
[–]sublimemongrelBecky, Esq.9 points10 points11 points (14 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points (12 children) | Copy Link
[–]WhatIsTheMeaningHere3 points4 points5 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]sublimemongrelBecky, Esq.1 point2 points3 points (6 children) | Copy Link
[–]WhatIsTheMeaningHere1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (9 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (8 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (7 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (6 children) | Copy Link
[–]whitetrashcarlselfish ghost2 points3 points4 points (11 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point (10 children) | Copy Link
[–]whitetrashcarlselfish ghost1 point2 points3 points (9 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (8 children) | Copy Link
[–]poppy_blublack midget wine mom 🍷3 points4 points5 points (9 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–]poppy_blublack midget wine mom 🍷5 points6 points7 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]FatmanSlim930 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Wandos7naproxen sodium0 points1 point2 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]Wandos7naproxen sodium0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]Wandos7naproxen sodium0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]FACEandLMS0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]FACEandLMS0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]eyewant😋 grape suppository0 points1 point2 points (7 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (6 children) | Copy Link
[–]eyewant😋 grape suppository0 points1 point2 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]eyewant😋 grape suppository0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse1 point2 points3 points (8 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]decoy88Black Male in London24 points25 points26 points (42 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points (39 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points (32 children) | Copy Link
[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (30 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points (8 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (6 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]reluctantly_red0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]decoy88Black Male in London3 points4 points5 points (15 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (14 children) | Copy Link
[–]decoy88Black Male in London2 points3 points4 points (13 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point (12 children) | Copy Link
[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew4 points5 points6 points (11 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (10 children) | Copy Link
[–]Director-D1 point2 points3 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]Director-D0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]GridReXXit be like that4 points5 points6 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]GridReXXit be like that0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Director-D2 points3 points4 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]Director-D0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]TallSwaggOVO 1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]decoy88Black Male in London1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points (9 children) | Copy Link
[–]FatmanSlim931 point2 points3 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]FatmanSlim931 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Naebany1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]FatmanSlim931 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]poppy_blublack midget wine mom 🍷1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Whodunnit88Survivied Purge Week 20185 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]jax006Wants to bang ~20% of PPD chicks3 points4 points5 points (18 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]sublimemongrelBecky, Esq.0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point (15 children) | Copy Link
[–]jax006Wants to bang ~20% of PPD chicks0 points1 point2 points (14 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (13 children) | Copy Link
[–]jax006Wants to bang ~20% of PPD chicks0 points1 point2 points (12 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (11 children) | Copy Link
[–]PhucCheet 1 points [recovered] (10 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (9 children) | Copy Link
[–]PhucCheet 1 points [recovered] (8 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (7 children) | Copy Link
[–]planejaneRemove head from sphincter, THEN type.4 points5 points6 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]Whodunnit88Survivied Purge Week 20185 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points (18 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]darudeboysandstormSoup on the stove, bread rising, apple pie0 points1 point2 points (11 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (10 children) | Copy Link
[–]darudeboysandstormSoup on the stove, bread rising, apple pie-1 points0 points1 point (9 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (8 children) | Copy Link
[–]darudeboysandstormSoup on the stove, bread rising, apple pie1 point2 points3 points (7 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (6 children) | Copy Link
[–]darudeboysandstormSoup on the stove, bread rising, apple pie5 points6 points7 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]darudeboysandstormSoup on the stove, bread rising, apple pie0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew-2 points-1 points0 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew7 points8 points9 points (95 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (45 children) | Copy Link
[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew4 points5 points6 points (44 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points (43 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (15 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (14 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (13 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (12 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (11 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (10 children) | Copy Link
[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin 1 points [recovered] (26 children) | Copy Link
[–]HeRoped 1 points [recovered] (25 children) | Copy Link
[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin 1 points [recovered] (14 children) | Copy Link
[–]HeRoped 1 points [recovered] (11 children) | Copy Link
[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin 1 points [recovered] (10 children) | Copy Link
[–]HeRoped 1 points [recovered] (9 children) | Copy Link
[–]darudeboysandstormSoup on the stove, bread rising, apple pie0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]TheGreasyPoleObjectively Pro-moderate filth[M] -1 points0 points1 point (9 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (7 children) | Copy Link
[–]TheGreasyPoleObjectively Pro-moderate filth[M] 1 point2 points3 points (6 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (45 children) | Copy Link
[–]sadomasochristnAWALT = Not red pilled1 point2 points3 points (13 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (12 children) | Copy Link
[–]NalkaNalkayou call it virtue, I call it cowardice1 point2 points3 points (10 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (9 children) | Copy Link
[–]NalkaNalkayou call it virtue, I call it cowardice0 points1 point2 points (8 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (7 children) | Copy Link
[–]NalkaNalkayou call it virtue, I call it cowardice0 points1 point2 points (6 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–]sadomasochristnAWALT = Not red pilled0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew4 points5 points6 points (30 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (29 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points (28 children) | Copy Link
[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin✡️🐈✡️ the purring jew6 points7 points8 points (27 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points (26 children) | Copy Link
[–]Wandos7naproxen sodium5 points6 points7 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]GridReXXit be like that1 point2 points3 points (23 children) | Copy Link
[–]SkookumTreeRomantic relationships aren't necessary for happiness!2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]GridReXXit be like that0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (20 children) | Copy Link
[–]GridReXXit be like that1 point2 points3 points (19 children) | Copy Link
[–]eyewant😋 grape suppository0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]eyewant😋 grape suppository0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]blackedoutfastRed Pill Man3 points4 points5 points (15 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]blackedoutfastRed Pill Man1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]SkookumTreeRomantic relationships aren't necessary for happiness!1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Bloodypalace1 point2 points3 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]blackedoutfastRed Pill Man0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]Bloodypalace1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]JaJammerJan 1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]wekacuckLife is settling.1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]sadomasochristnAWALT = Not red pilled1 point2 points3 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]sadomasochristnAWALT = Not red pilled0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]sadomasochristnAWALT = Not red pilled1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]AutoModeratorMarried to MRS_DRgree[M] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Uncommon_Sense_12345 1 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]machimusMahogany Pill0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]wtknightGen X Slacker0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]humansallthesame0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Naebany0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Gravel_RoadsJust a Pill0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (10 children) | Copy Link
[–]SkookumTreeRomantic relationships aren't necessary for happiness!0 points1 point2 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]SRU_91 1 points [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]CainPrice0 points1 point2 points (7 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (6 children) | Copy Link
[–]CainPrice0 points1 point2 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]CainPrice1 point2 points3 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]CainPrice0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]SpaceWhiskey🍃 Social Justice Druid 🍂0 points1 point2 points (32 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (15 children) | Copy Link
[–]SpaceWhiskey🍃 Social Justice Druid 🍂1 point2 points3 points (14 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (11 children) | Copy Link
[–]SpaceWhiskey🍃 Social Justice Druid 🍂0 points1 point2 points (10 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (9 children) | Copy Link
[–]SpaceWhiskey🍃 Social Justice Druid 🍂2 points3 points4 points (8 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (7 children) | Copy Link
[–]SpaceWhiskey🍃 Social Justice Druid 🍂0 points1 point2 points (6 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–]SkookumTreeRomantic relationships aren't necessary for happiness!0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Bloodypalace4 points5 points6 points (13 children) | Copy Link
[–]SpaceWhiskey🍃 Social Justice Druid 🍂1 point2 points3 points (12 children) | Copy Link
[–]Whodunnit88Survivied Purge Week 20184 points5 points6 points (11 children) | Copy Link
[–]SpaceWhiskey🍃 Social Justice Druid 🍂1 point2 points3 points (9 children) | Copy Link
[–]Whodunnit88Survivied Purge Week 20180 points1 point2 points (8 children) | Copy Link
[–]SpaceWhiskey🍃 Social Justice Druid 🍂0 points1 point2 points (7 children) | Copy Link
[–]Whodunnit88Survivied Purge Week 20182 points3 points4 points (6 children) | Copy Link
[–]SpaceWhiskey🍃 Social Justice Druid 🍂0 points1 point2 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–]Whodunnit88Survivied Purge Week 20180 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]wobbleelbbow 1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]SkookumTreeRomantic relationships aren't necessary for happiness!0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]SpaceWhiskey🍃 Social Justice Druid 🍂0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link