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It's a no-win situation for a woman when a man wants to have sex with her.

vanBeethovenLudwig
August 5, 2018
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Women constantly complain that men only want them for sex and not really for her as a person.

However, this is a no-win situation because:

  1. If a woman wants to be desirable, men will always want to have sex with her.

  2. If a man doesn't continue to have sex with her (aka LTR), it means he lacks attraction for her.

  3. If a woman complains and demands respect for her intelligence/personality instead of being a sex object, a man will stop desiring her.

So women are pretty much stuck being sexual objects, and maintaining the status of being a sexual object is crucial to long-term success in relationships. Otherwise men will stray.

Therefore, women SHOULD WANT to be wanted for sex.

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Title It's a no-win situation for a woman when a man wants to have sex with her.
Author vanBeethovenLudwig
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Date August 5, 2018 1:35 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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[–]DesignerDebates3 small children in a trench coat[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children) | Copy Link

Changed to flair to CMV as you’re making an affirmative claim in the title and the post body. All top level comments must attempt to change OP’s view.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (34 children) | Copy Link

The fact that we're stuck being sexual objects by your own logic is why women want to wanted as a person. We know we have brains in our heads, but to many men we're just wet holes. Men hate feeling like walking wallets, why would women want to feel like walking holes?

[–]KikiYuyuPurple Pill Woman6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Hum... so men want sex... and women want money... so?

There is a point in arguing? Men cannot tone down their sexual desires (without hormonal therapy) and women cannot tone down greed.

The OP is correct, women are stuck being looked for sex as it IS a need for men. But it is not the sole reason, men can love the said woman, actually, sex has a increased effect to bounding with said woman because of men's physiology, the same cannot be said with money and women. But whatever. It is not gonna change, so just accept the truth and work with it.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Both sexes want what the other provides. This is natural. But much like it is tiresome for men to be perpetual wallets, it is tiresome for women to be perpetual objects.

I don't think it will change. I don't think it's a bad thing for the sexes to have their strengths and weaknesses. However, I don't think healthy relationships function purely on the man being a wallet and the woman being a sexual object. Both people value the other person for who they are in addition to what they can provide in a healthy relationship.

[–]Orange_PaisleyOrange pill is best pill2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

What makes you think women want money? I don’t. I do want someone who is going to pull his own weight and not be dependent on MY money. I don’t think that is unreasonable.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Depends it may be unreasonable. What is your value to the men on average?

You can ask anything. You can ask a million dollars for a single banana. But to be able to trade is a different thing. If you are able to make a man commit to this... nice to you. But I find women not interested in wealth to be a rarity of rarities. And those are the kinds who want looks.

I do not believe you want a man "who lift his own weight", men can live spending $500 month, maybe less if he cuts alcohol. If a guy earned that you would not even bat an eyelash.

You want a guy who earns at least the same you do, what you suppose you would earn or what you think is a amount enough to living standards (which he would pay so you don't have to)

I believe the same amount of women that love a man so much to not care for his money, is the same amount of men that love a woman so much to not care for sex.

That is. Not many. Maybe 0.1%? I know I met a guy who loves more than he wants sex, he killed himself to save his bitchy wife. but a woman who do not expect money? Nope, never met such a woman.

[–]Orange_PaisleyOrange pill is best pill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

We’ve been together 5 1/2 years, living together almost 2. We have sex a few times a week. I make 1/3 more than him. We split the house and utility expenses; we each pay our own car, phone and credit cards. We have enough to vacation once or twice a year and to eat out once a week or so. That’s enough for me and for him.

[–]YaAmar0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

s why women want to wanted as a person. We know we have brains in our heads, but to many men we're just wet holes.

if women want to be wanted by men as persons, why do they walk around with their butt cheeks hanging and their boobs hanging lower than a mechanic under an airplane... excuse me while I stack my pockets with money and then I go to an expensive girls clothing store and then complain that women don't want me as a person....

Men hate feeling like walking wallets, why would women want to feel like walking holes?

Exactly, and that's why women should dress a little more modestly(no, I don't mean cover themselves up entirely) and they shouldn't flirt with men they aren't interested in, and they shouldn't sexually tease men, and then complain that those guys tried to hook-up with them..

I still remember this female friend of mine who was pissed off because the guy she had been flirting with made a move and went at it pretty straightforward and clear,'' I want to have sex with you y/n?'' and she didn't enjoy that the guy just wanted to smash... well, make it clear to the guys that girls flirt with that they are looking for a relationship instead of a hook-up and guys won't maybe see them as ''holes''...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

if women want to be wanted by men as persons, why do they walk around with their butt cheeks hanging and their boobs hanging lower than a mechanic under an airplane...

Women are not a monolith. The women who complain about men being thirsty are not the women who wear lingerie in public. If they are, they're obviously hypocrites.

[–]YaAmar0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

I don't know. I find it strange that women who complain about men being thirsty are not displaying their assets to the world.. how thirsty can a guy get if he's salivating at the sight of a woman covered up.. is this Europe in the 19th century and the lady showed a bit of a heel.. at least the poor women who suffered my approaches looked welcoming with their apparel for the attentions of men.. Chad men.. but hey you don't know what can happen if you don't try your luck.

Most of the women I've met who complained about guys hitting on them, are women whose ass cheeks could be used as propellers because they're hanging out of their shorts shorts, or they are women who flirt with men they are not interested in, and then when the dudes hit on them they complain that guys only see them as wet holes.. or they are really sexually forward with the guy they want to sleep with, they smash and then complain about the guy pumping and splitting.

I dunno. Women are just so complicated.. why they can't be simple like men are.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

I find it strange that women who complain about men being thirsty are not displaying their assets to the world..

Well I find it strange that men complain about women wanting them for a relationship. Relationships are super important to me, I don't get men who disagree. To each their own.

Women are just so complicated.. why they can't be simple like men are.

Men seem infinitely more complicated to me than women.

[–]YaAmar0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Well I find it strange that men complain about women wanting them for a relationship.

That's because a boyfriend is not just dating the girl.. he's dating her family and her friends and her problems and her dramas and her needs and desires and objectives in life.. he has to deal with a lot more than the guy who had casual sex with her ever had to deal with to get the sex. And there are girls, too many girls who just want a relationship and don't care about who it is that they are dating as long as they get the relationship.. because they don't want to be the only girl in their social group to be single.

That doesn't make a guy feel sexy.. I had one girl who worked with me at a job, then she quit cuz she got a better job and I was pretty thirsty, she was cute and thin but seriously not my type, too shy. I like them all flirty and attention-getting.. I went ham hitting on her, she agreed to do everything I wanted to do with her and then she said, '' we are more than just friends, right? This is more than just a hook-up, yeah?''

I totally lost my thirst and told her forget about it let's stay friends lol.. she made me feel unsexy and undesirable when she put conditions on the sex.

Relationships are super important to me,

Why is that? Well, you are a girl, and you are a solid 6 so it's not like you are lacking for men who are 8s and up who want to have casual sex with you, but if you were a dude and you weren't an 8, 9, or 10, a pretty girl wanting to have casual sex with you would make you feel pretty darn good.. if you were the typical guy.

Men seem infinitely more complicated to me than women.

No, believe me, men are far less complicated than women are.. feed me, fck me and don't cheat on me and I'm pretty chill, now compare that to a girl..

girl legit needs the guy to be perfect and do everything perfectly. I've had women dump me cuz I could have gotten a better job and I didn't want it, wtf. Trying to get me to work for their fathers and become a cubicle slave.. then they'd complain if I was to get fat because of the sedentary lifestyle and dump me lol. A man can't win lol.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

That's because a boyfriend is not just dating the girl.. he's dating her family and her friends and her problems and her dramas and her needs and desires and objectives in life.. he has to deal with a lot more than the guy who had casual sex with her ever had to deal with to get the sex

And she has to deal with his bullshit too. It's not a one way street.

I went ham hitting on her, she agreed to do everything I wanted to do with her and then she said, '' we are more than just friends, right? This is more than just a hook-up, yeah?''

I totally lost my thirst and told her forget about it let's stay friends lol.. she made me feel unsexy and undesirable when she put conditions on the sex.

A girl liked you for who you were and you found it unsexy XD figured out why you're struggling -- you don't know what's good for you.

Why is that? Well, you are a girl, and you are a solid 6 so it's not like you are lacking for men who are 8s and up who want to have casual sex with you, but if you were a dude and you weren't an 8, 9, or 10, a pretty girl wanting to have casual sex with you would make you feel pretty darn good.. if you were the typical guy.

Nah. My Dad and brothers have always been relationship oriented too. I would've been like them.

No, believe me, men are far less complicated than women are.. feed me, fck me and don't cheat on me and I'm pretty chill, now compare that to a girl..

Oh no she needs to give him porn star sex, never complain, do all of his chores, make her own money, and maintain a 10/10 face and body at all times.

girl legit needs the guy to be perfect and do everything perfectly.

Nah. My boyfriend fucks something up we laugh about it and move on. If it's a real fuck up, we plan better next time. That's it.

[–]YaAmar0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

And she has to deal with his bullshit too. It's not a one way street.

Well, the difference is that men are pretty chill in comparison to women. I work, I come home, I make food, I sit and read or I watch a movie... or I go out and I play soccer with my mates, or I surf. My life has no bulshit other than the one my boss makes when he wants me to work extra hours, and I'd never bother a girlfriend with those issues.

Women's social life is so fucking complex. They know everything. They know when is the birthday of the girl they barely talked to in high school 10 years ago, they know how many girls their boss slept with or attempted to slept with, and they want to flood you with all of this social data and information while you just wanna pop a s7even up and catch some shut eye.

A girl liked you for who you were and you found it unsexy XD figured out why you're struggling -- you don't know what's good for you.

Oh, she didn't like me. if she did like me, she would have just let me smash and we'd part our own ways. She was way too young for me anyway, she was 18, and she should be dating a guy her own age. I'm far too old, she needs to grow with a guy she can talk to on the same level and who share the same interests. What am I gonna talk to about with a girl that young? Linkin park? lol

figured out why you're struggling -- you don't know what's good for you.

eh, I'm struggling because I'm not good enough for casual sex, and bad enough for relationships. I honestly don't know what's so wrong about me that they start talking about feelings and emotions and love that they claim to have for me and we haven't even smashed yet.. hello? Don't you want to see if I fuck good before you decide you love me? Shaking my head... I'm not worthy of love, believe me.. please girls put me in the fucboi category..

Nah. My Dad and brothers have always been relationship oriented too. I would've been like them.

My father is like your dad. My father had 3 relationships before he met my mother and then he married her and stayed married. My mother's father was the complete opposite.. if he slept with 100 women in his lifetime I woudn't be surprised.. so smooth.

Oh no she needs to give him porn star sex, never complain, do all of his chores, make her own money, and maintain a 10/10 face and body at all times.

lol I honestly don't care about anything of that. Porn star sex to me looks painful as fuck, I can't do the shit those guys do, I don't want to pull my back or tear off my dick. Complaining is fine if it doesn't turn into nagging. My parents taught me how to do chores before I was 8, and I enjoy cleaning and washing and tidying up the house.

well, yeah.. I'd expect a woman to make her own money. I don't want to be used for money. I'm not expecting a woman to be a 10/10 ageless 18 year old girl.. I'm not Jared Leto, but I'm also not ugly nor fat so.. kinda fair to expect a woman to be like me..

Nah. My boyfriend fucks something up we laugh about it and move on. If it's a real fuck up, we plan better next time. That's it.

yeah, but you are one of a kind, dude.. a solid 6 with a smashing personality, high sex drive, and who wants to get married before you are 25.. if I met a chick like you I'd marry her faster than she can say, ''are you gay, you clean your house so well.''

Ideally the relationship would sprung up from a casual sex scenario.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Well, the difference is that men are pretty chill in comparison to women. I work, I come home, I make food, I sit and read or I watch a movie... or I go out and I play soccer with my mates, or I surf.

Same, except I walk my dog regularly and go hiking.

They know when is the birthday of the girl they barely talked to in high school 10 years ago, they know how many girls their boss slept with or attempted to slept with, and they want to flood you with all of this social data

This sounds awful. I have like 5 friends I keep up with, and even that can be too much so really it's more like 2 friends.

I'm struggling because I'm not good enough for casual sex, and bad enough for relationships.

"Bad enough for relationships" is so backwards. These women are saying they'd like to have sex with you more than once and you think it's bad. I'm baffled.

but you are one of a kind, dude.. a solid 6 with a smashing personality, high sex drive, and who wants to get married before you are 25.. if I met a chick like you I'd marry her faster than she can say, ''are you gay, you clean your house so well.''

I'm no unicorn, dearie. I come with a temper and a stubborn streak plus plenty of other baggage.

[–]YaAmar0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Same, except I walk my dog regularly and go hiking.

I don't have dogs but I take my friend's dogs to walk for long walks when he asks me to take them off his hands for a couple weeks at a time.

This sounds awful. I have like 5 friends I keep up with, and even that can be too much so really it's more like 2 friends.

Told you! They have huge social networks that they keep in touch with and they force me to keep in touch with, too, birthday parties, baby showers, weddings, and all that gossip that annoys me to no end.

"Bad enough for relationships" is so backwards. These women are saying they'd like to have sex with you more than once and you think it's bad. I'm baffled.

how is bad enough for relationships backward thinking?

Well, It's not like they can't have sex with me just once. There is no need to date me and to want to be a part of my life to keep having sex with me if they want to. They can bootycall me at anytime, no matter how tired I am, I'll be there. But they usually don't do that. They are so god damn emotional with me, I have no idea why. They tell me their entire life stories and everything.

Another female poster said that it's because I act like a potential dad for the kids they want to have and that's why they don't have casual sex with me. I dunno. Maybe they see how kids fall in love with me at first sight and don't leave me alone. Maybe I am too sweet on them and they decide they want to keep me.

I'm no unicorn, dearie. I come with a temper and a stubborn streak plus plenty of other baggage.

Yeah, about that. I am Greek and Southern European and Turkish, if you think you have a temper it's because you never met my mother or grandmother lol. What sort of other bggage do you carry?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hum... so men want sex... and women want money... so?

There is a point in arguing? Men cannot tone down their sexual desires (without hormonal therapy) and women cannot tone down greed.

The OP is correct, women are stuck being looked for sex as it IS a need for men. But it is not the sole reason, men can love the said woman, actually, sex has a increased effect to bounding with said woman because of men's physiology, the same cannot be said with money and women. But whatever. It is not gonna change, so just accept the truth and work with it.

[–]lucky_beast-3 points-2 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

Not all men can be seen as a walking wallet, all women can be seen as a series of holes even by themselves. Yet again affirming men earn value, women are just handed it.

[–]whichbladeNA Paler Shade of Purple8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why would women only wanted to be valued for sex? It's lackluster to say the least.

[–]lucky_beast-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not saying that, my comment was only pointing out the comparison between men as wallets vs women as holes is not equivalent.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

I don't disagree that men earn value, while women are gifted it at puberty. However female value dries up at 45-50, while men can have till the day they die.

It's just a trade off. That's it.

[–]YaAmar0 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy Link

I don't disagree that men earn value, while women are gifted it at puberty. However female value dries up at 45-50, while men can have till the day they die.

No, a man's value also dries off as soon as he loses his looks and his youth, all that he can be seen is as a wallet, and women will only want him for his money. His money is not what makes him a person. Women will always be desired. Heck, my post-menopause mother can easily get laid with hot 25 years old and she can get commitment from hot 40 year old men..

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

You can insist this until you're blue in the face, but I'm not going to believe you. Women's value is in their fertility and the youthful appearance. Men can maintain theirs (silver Fox) well past women.

[–]YaAmar0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

You can insist this until you're blue in the face, but I'm not going to believe you. Women's value is in their fertility and the youthful appearance. Men can maintain theirs (silver Fox) well past women.

No, women still get pursued and chased after by men well after they are no longer young and fertile.. remember that most men want to get married, they get remarried, I ain't seeing the majority of the men who get divorced and then get remarried marrying women 30 years younger than them...

Men can maintain theirs (silver Fox) well past women.

Only if the men start life by being extremely good-looking and maintaining a share of their looks. Harrison Ford, George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise.. but those men get dumped by women so I ain't seeing how the average man(that isn't obese) can be considered sexually attractive by women, especially by younger women.. most women want men their own age.

So... old men past the age of 35 tops are dried up, unattractive for the most part no matter how much they lift, and they can only get women without options, or they use money.. No way would Jason Statham have gotten Rose, a woman who is 20 years younger than him and much hotter if he wasn't a rich movie star.

if he was the local manager of the supermarket she visits she wouldn't even notice his existence.. men can rent the sexual attentions of women, but they will never be sexually desired like hot men in their early 20s are by almost every age group of women..

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

No, women still get pursued and chased after by men well after they are no longer young and fertile..

Far less than married men get pursued.

So... old men past the age of 35 tops are dried up, unattractive for the most part no matter how much they lift, and they can only get women without options, or they use money..

This is so blatantly false I'm laughing out loud. Older men are so much hotter than young soyboys.

[–]YaAmar0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

Far less than married men get pursued.

Nah. men can't live alone. look at the suicide rates of the older men, they're all divorced and without female company in their lives. Men want women. Men who are 14 want women. Men who are 25 want women. Men who are 50 want women, and honestly, guys aren't all '' I MUST GET A 19 YEAR OLD GIRL OR NO CIGAR'' they want company. They want attention. They want someone to talk to, someone who is there to listen to them, and guys get boring after awhile even if they are your friends and you love hanging out with them..

Far less than married men get pursued.

Married men get pursued because the women are just looking for a quick fuck and don't want guys who get attached.. or because the guys have money.. or because they have a daddy complex..

This is so blatantly false I'm laughing out loud. Older men are so much hotter than young soyboys.

Nah.. you mean to say that older men like Luke Evans, Chris Hemsworth, and maybe Hugh Jackman if you are into daddies are way hotter than soyboys, but that's because these men are wayyyyy above the worldwide average, and they began their lives as teenagers and young men as very attractive men. If it wasn't for that , the fact that they were gifted immense high SMV, if they were average men instead, the clear degredation of a man's looks due to the aging process would have made them highly unattractive.

I dunno what's up with that nonsense of soyboy stuff.. when I was a teenager there were pretty teenager girls that were into me, but now that I am an old man at almost 30 I get a lotta more female attention from attractive teenagers than I get from average women(not fat lol) my own age.. must be because they are looking to settle down and I look poor af.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Married men get pursued because the women are just looking for a quick fuck and don't want guys who get attached.. or because the guys have money.. or because they have a daddy complex..

Look up preselection. That's why married men are pursued. And not for quick fucks, they try and secure these men away from their wives.

Nah.. you mean to say that older men like Luke Evans, Chris Hemsworth, and maybe Hugh Jackman if you are into daddies are way hotter than soyboys, but that's because these men are wayyyyy above the worldwide average, and they began their lives as teenagers and young men as very attractive men.

Yes, those men are attractive. But older men (who aren't overweight) are more attractive to me than most men my own age and almost all younger men. I meant what I said, please stop presuming to know what I mean.

[–]YaAmar0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Look up preselection. That's why married men are pursued. And not for quick fucks, they try and secure these men away from their wives.

Eh, most men get married.. most men aren't swimming in women.. if you are talking about men who look like The Bachelor, sure.. I can see married men being pursued more often than not.. rich men, yes.. men with social connections, yes.. some smuck that cleans pipes for a living, no..

Yes, those men are attractive. But older men (who aren't overweight) are more attractive to me than most men my own age and almost all younger men. I meant what I said, please stop presuming to know what I mean.

yes, but that's only a handful of women who feel like that and I got the feeling for most women like that it's daddy issues.. my daddy is 63 years old, and he still gets checked out and stared and hit on by women who are in their 40s.. but that's because dad got lucky, kept all of his hair + his iron dark hair colour, and he never really went fat, nor did his skin age that much..

If he looked his age I don't think he'd get attention from women who are 23 years younger than him.. just like I don't get attention from teenagers when I let my facial hair grow and I start looking old... and I stop looking like a soyboy.. see that man right as the videoclip starts? that's how I look like when I let my facial hair and hair and demeanor change to my real age, exactly like that.. ugh, eww, creepy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcLYbPPYL1s

Plus, I've noticed that in some of the pictures I take of me, I notice mouth wrinkles and a forehead wrinkle.. fuck, I'm getting old now I'm going to become even more invisible..

e. But older men (who aren't overweight) are more attractive to me than most men my own age and almost all younger men.

But why is that?????????

[–]sublimemongrelBecky, Esq.18 points19 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Lol what. Men fall in love too. Men don’t just appreciate women for sex. I mean really?

[–]NalkaNalkayou call it virtue, I call it cowardice-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

uhh... being appreciated sexually doesn't stop you from being appreciated in other ways too.

[–]sublimemongrelBecky, Esq.1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes? How are you disagreeing with me?

[–]NalkaNalkayou call it virtue, I call it cowardice-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess I'm not. Dammit I could have sworn you wrote something else.

See kids, don't drink and post.

[–]wtknightGen X Slacker4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course a woman should want the men who she is attracted to to want to have sex with her. But men are capable of wanting sex with a woman and wanting to love her and be lifelong friends with her at the same time. These things are not mutually exclusive, and what women want is not to be only or primarily considered a sexual object by the men who they want a long term relationship with.

[–]KikiYuyuPurple Pill Woman3 points4 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

If a woman wants to be desirable, men will always want to have sex with her.

If a woman wants to be sexually desirable, then yes, there will always be some portion of men who will desire her sexually.

If a man doesn't continue to have sex with her (aka LTR), it means he lacks attraction for her.

Aside from a possible mental or physical medical issue, then sure.

If a woman complains and demands respect for her intelligence/personality instead of being a sex object, a man will stop desiring her.

The first two were fine, now this? Are you saying that desiring someone sexually and seeing someone as a sex object are the exact same thing? Obviously there's big overlap but there's an important difference.

If the man desires the woman only for sex and is completely uninterested in her status as a fellow human being, I'd consider that sexual objectification.

But the man can desire the woman sexually, AND respect her for who she is. That's the really important part, and it just ruins your whole claim.

If you can't tell the difference, then I think you need to do some serious soul searching. If you are incapable of empathizing with a sexy woman as another human being, you might need to talk to someone for help.

[–]reluctantly_red0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

and is completely uninterested in her status as a fellow human being

This wouldn't be such a problem if more women put some effort into actually being interesting human beings.

[–]KikiYuyuPurple Pill Woman5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I didn't mean uninterested as in the woman isn't interesting, I meant the recognition that the woman is a human with her own life and thoughts and complexities and emotions.

Also, I'm sorry you've only ever meant what you consider boring women. You do know the amount you've ever become aware of is a ridiculously small portion of the full number, right?

[–]reluctantly_red1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I think I have a statistically significant sample size. That 20/80 rule pops up again. About 20% of women are interesting humans. The rest bore me to tears.

[–]KikiYuyuPurple Pill Woman2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think I have a statistically significant sample size

Oh yeah? How many locations are these boring women from? How many different lifestyles, nationalities, careers were there? Ages? Sexual orientations?

Or maybe you just met a bunch of women who were all relatively similar and they just didn't happen to tickle your fancy?

[–]reluctantly_red1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't get all out of sorts. 80% of guys are boring too.

[–]wracky272RPG's are fun0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If one cries "he's only interested in me for sex!", one should first ask themselves: "Am I a hobby-less, complacent potato?"

[–]YaAmar0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

but they are interesting human beings.. you guys just need to stop shagging them so much that you find the time to get to know them and figure out that they are interesting human beings.. many of them are, like many men have no interests other than sex and beer and football..

[–]reluctantly_red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Actually I hardly ever drink and find American football incredibly boring. There's lots of time to get to know each other after sex. We can talk as she's making breakfast. :)

[–]SpaceWhiskey🍃 Social Justice Druid 🍂3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There are men who actually do respect women on a human level in addition to desiring them sexually. I love being sexually desired by men... who I care about and who also respect me for more than just my appearance.

I thought this post was going to go in a whole different direction based on the title. Like, how if a man desires a woman and she isn’t interested, it’s no-win. She’s going to have to deal with the fallout in some shape or form.

[–]Gravel_RoadsJust a Pill2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women also have the option of dating men who are capable of appreciating their personalities as well. Men who only want women in relationships for sex are A.) The bottom of the barrel, but fortunately B.) Also not the majority of men.

[–]Lewd_Crude3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I like vanilla ice cream therefore I can't also like coffee.

[–]hiso_hiso 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

you could just like affogato and solve the problem entirely.

[–]Lewd_Crude4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Not possible. Coffee and vanilla ice cream are mutually exclusive. You can't desire both at the same time. Just like sex and love.

/s because sarcasm doesn't exist unless it has a "/s" in front of it.

[–]poppy_blublack midget wine mom 🍷6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Make sure to attach your spreadsheet showing that 80% of vanilla ice cream is consumed by 20% of men cuz feminists ruined coffee.

[–]marche_ckcry world in center of love1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Marriage is the price men pay for sex

Sex is the price women pay for marriage

Nuff said

[–]Theseus_The_KingI’m a lady king dang nammit!5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The solution is simple: marry someone you want to have sex with.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Is it possible you you could be a person AND a sexual object?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If a woman complains and demands respect for her intelligence/personality instead of being a sex object, a man will stop desiring her.

He won't stop desiring her sexually per se, but he will just go somewhere else. And that is the tremendously unfair burden postmodern sexuality puts on women.

[–]jonascf1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women constantly complain that men only want them for sex and not really for her as a person.

No, not really. Most women find men that want them for both their bodies and personality.

[–]SerpentCypher1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You can appreciate women as people AND want to have sex with them. It's not either or. Too many people think that it is these days and that's sad.

Wanting to have sex with someone or appreciation of their sexuality doesn't automatically render them a sex object.

[–]Million-SunsMarriage is obsolete1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If a woman complains and demands respect for her intelligence/personality instead of being a sex object, a man will stop desiring her.

If she complains and make demands , ofc that's ground for losing attraction. Women underestimate how much being bossy, nagging etc is a huge turn off. But her being intelligent and have an interesting personality won't make the man stop desiring her. I think it might even enhance it.

[–]Doom_and-Gloom1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

1) If a woman is not hideous, men will always want to have sex with her.

FTFY.

2) If a man doesn't continue to have sex with her (aka LTR), it means he lacks attraction for her.

Wait, if a man doesn't want to LTR a woman, that means he doesn't find her attractive? I don't follow.

3) If a woman complains and demands respect for her intelligence/personality instead of being a sex object, a man will stop desiring her.

Citation needed.

[–]vanBeethovenLudwigroses are red, feminists are blue1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Wait, if a man doesn't want to LTR a woman, that means he doesn't find her attractive? I don't follow.

Sorry, not clear. I mean that if a man wants a LTR with her, that means he DOES want to continue to have sex with her. So basically continuing sex is a huge part of being a LTR. Otherwise it's just a platonic friendship.

Citation needed.

This more goes along with feminist thought of a woman being desirable because of her smarts and career, but biologically the man is attracted to her sexually first and foremost.

[–]Doom_and-Gloom1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

So basically continuing sex is a huge part of being a LTR.

For men, yes. I'm still not sure what your point here is though.

This more goes along with feminist thought of a woman being desirable because of her smarts and career, but biologically the man is attracted to her sexually first and foremost.

Again, not sure what you're trying to get at here.

[–]vanBeethovenLudwigroses are red, feminists are blue0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

For men, yes. I'm still not what your point here is though.

It just goes back to how women will complain about being only sex objects but being a sex object is a huge part of a LTR.

When women complain about men being too handsy or flirty on dates, they're missing a big part of what a sexual romantic relationship is.

[–]Doom_and-Gloom1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It just goes back to how women will complain about being only sex objects but being a sex object is a huge part of a LTR.

Again, only for men. Most women don't care about sex; they're either ambivalent towards it at best or actively despise it at worst.

[–]YaAmar0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

do you mean to say most women don't care about sex with you and you are projecting that onto every woman and man so you feel better about yourself..

[–]Doom_and-Gloom1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No, I mean exactly what I said: most women don't care about sex - not with me, not with anyone else. Don't like it? Too bad.

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[–]goatismycopilotJohnI'monlydancing11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Laydee people u should want to be holes why you no wanna be holes?

[–]theambivalentroosterLiteral Chad5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women’s rights is literally the worst thing since the Jews murdered Christ

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

😂 lol. You’re so witty!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I'm pretty sure most women are okay being wanted for sex by the right guy. I mean, they don't spend hours getting pretty and hundreds of dollars on fashion for nothing.

It's only objectification if the guy is ugly, aka creepy.

[–]whichbladeNA Paler Shade of Purple3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

hundreds of dollars on fashion for nothing.

Fashion is for other women. Women don't have 70 different outfits just to keep men interested. It's to keep women interested, lol.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think that's a big part of it, but it's foolish to say they don't also do it to attract hot men.

[–]whichbladeNA Paler Shade of Purple2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The value and intricacy of the clothing has nothing to do with it though. I'd say it's definitely more of the cut and color of the clothes.

Bright and tight.

But that's really just semantics. Fashion is more exclusive to the industry. Clothing is just... clothes, you know?

[–]YaAmar0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

so most women are lesbians?

[–]whichbladeNA Paler Shade of Purple0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Most women compete with other women in that way. For status mostly.

[–]YaAmar0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

At least women have a pacifist way to compete for status. We dudes punch each others out until there's only one standing.

[–]reluctantly_red-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's only objectification if the guy is ugly, aka creepy.

So obvious -- but again one of those things women will never actually admit.

[–]YaAmar0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's only objectification if the guy is ugly, aka creepy.

So obvious -- but again one of those things women will never actually admit.

I've seen women reject very attractive men who were treating them as objects.. I think red pillers love hot men more than women do..

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