It's women, not men that can't accept the reality of their dating situation

tinasnow-poty · 2022-09-14T14:20:40+00:00

A very loud minority online is making you think we don’t know, but we know.

A lot of girls know body count is important. That’s why some girls lie about it. Or why not being ran through is a badge of honour.

There are some people who look better in their 30s, but I’m sure everyone agrees youth is beauty. However, do all options disappear for women after 25, 30, 35, 40, or whatever the wall number is these days? No. Sure, men prefer younger women, but can men get these younger women? Generally, no. Sure some top specimen is banging 20 year olds week in week out. But the vast majority of 35, 40 year old men are not hot enough nor rich enough to be dating women 15 years younger. Nor do all of them even want to. This may come as a shock to you, but some men value things more than sex and want a life partner which generally younger women are not suited to. Divorced men in their 40s and 50s are dating other divorced ladies in their 40s and 50s. So yes, whilst a woman may not be as beautiful as she was when she was 21, she can probably still find a nice partner especially after the wave of divorces that happen in the late 30s.

If a woman wants to be single and lonely because of her high standards, i don’t see how it affects anyone else. Unless, the people she “should” be sleeping with are upset that she’s not, of course.

Again, just because people talk online doesn’t mean people don’t know these things. You’re hardly going to see someone come and tweet, “so I’ve actually realised I’m a 4.5 at best”

Bubbly_Taro · 2022-09-14T13:10:04+00:00

Almost nobody has an overarching plan or meta information about dating. Neither men nor women.

People for the most part live in the moment and react to stimuli as they present themselves.

jacemano · 2022-09-14T13:14:03+00:00

Confirmation bias. You're hearing about the unhappy ones.

Plenty of women out their happy in relationships. They just aren't shouting about their happiness on the internet

Acaciduh · 2022-09-14T13:28:52+00:00

No matter what men on here like to state women’s “realities” are the actual reality they live in begs to differ because they still have options. Women with high n-counts and women past 30 still find plenty of options for relationships and marriage. Are some women unhappy with their dating life - sure, is it on the same scale as unhappy men - no way. This is why there’s a few fringe places like FDS and a million “Incel” type subreddits and forums for men to complain. Women wd rather be single than settle because they can make their own money, obtain easy sex if they have that itch to scratch and can form pseudo relationship bonds with friends, family that counteract the need to be in a relationship if they can’t find what they are looking for. Men by and large will settle because then at least they will have access to sex and for a large portion of them that’s the only thing that provides them with validation.

wtknight · 2022-09-14T13:17:44+00:00

Just because many women try to shame men into idealistically behaving how they think that men should behave doesn’t mean that they don’t understand men and dating. In fact, many women do understand based upon their own dating and sexual experiences and those of their friends. And, the more experience a women has, the more that they usually understand.

On the other hand, men are often inexperienced and think that they understand more than they do about women based upon “internet theories” about women. What men seem to understand least in my opinion is how much individual women can vary in personality.

October-Farzinga · 2022-09-14T13:20:56+00:00

Men may get angry and frustrated with trying to date, but women know exactly what they're doing.

Women, even the mediocre, have tremendous success at attracting men, it's just, as you said, the entitlement of having massive selection.

The only "problem", is not enough rich Chads committing to them. That's all. And as they get older, and there's less top tier options, they "settle", except they're not settling. Men think they're settling, but, again, they know exactly what they're doing.

A misunderstanding is listening to feminists who lie about everything. It's not just looks. It's also (and primarily) about money. So when men think women are settling in looks, that fades off pretty fast after youth as their primary goal. Money is the primary goal. Just some women confuse men because they think women think like men and are driven like men. Women don't have anything close or even in the same zip code as a sex drive as men do, and men do not have a money drive (from relationships) as women do.

How often to you see women insulting men about looks compared to money? It's dusty this, and can't afford that, and broke men this and that and the other? Why is the entirety of feminism about women doing zero manual labor of any kind and 100% about money? Why are all women's lies about history that they never experienced about how women are enslaved to men because of money?

Money money money. Women aren't "settling", they aren't hitting "a wall", they just have the money priority become more powerful than Chad looks. Sure, they want Chad looks, but money is greater than Chad the F-boy past a certain age.

If anything, "settling" comes like "the wall", which is women's priorities start maximizing money over looks.

Women care about money so P&D is "bad", but it's perfectly fine before the money wall comes up. Work? Labor? Don't care. It's that sexy money that is king. And women don't barely hit any physical "wall".

Women spend the majority of their lives being harassed and lusted after by easily manipulateable simps. Why else do they have orbiters? Despite the lying, even a dusty simp spending his last $20 on giving her a happy meal is money she doesn't have to pay. And all those $20s build up into fat stacks when you look at the volume of men making it rain a coffee date at a time.

So no, I disagree. Women don't hit a wall, they can get men's interest their entire lives (assuming they don't completely give up and hit a cheesecake a day), with only a few having a few bad years between 0-4 not being sexually harassed.

They live a full half a century with unwanted male attention. Women get sexually harassed their entire "peak lives", which they don't want, then they just start accepting the money which men stupidly think is some sort of desperation.

Why do you think women claim to be happier and whatever when single? No woman is ever single unless they hide in their basement like an incel. They always have options, no matter what they claim. When they do lie about it, what they mean is, those gross 900 messages a day I get from poor non-Chad shows I can't attract men.

Hoping Chad is rich and interested can be difficult, but how hard is it for a woman who has even less than 500 messages from men a day who spends 30 minutes a day on a treadmill and has a salad once in awhile to grab herself some MC male desperate for even a vaguely polite woman?

There is no wall, just women making money more priority than Chad.

It's not like they particularly like or care about either one.

risdeveau · 2022-09-14T14:23:09+00:00

Why would we believe in the wall, when we can see women doing fine after 30?

Why would we believe in n counts mattering, when sluts marry?

Why would we believe men are holding out when they’re so thirsty and desperate?

Why would we believe men’s judgement, when they shoot their shots recklessly and indiscriminately?

ruboyuri · 2022-09-14T14:57:43+00:00

Women are delusional after the sex; men are delusional before

Valuable-Marzipan761 · 2022-09-14T15:29:28+00:00

Seems pretty clear that there are too many whiners of both sex. I don't see how you can be on this sub and think men aren't struggling to accept the reality of dating.

All men are practically in agreement that women lose value over time

Yeah that's not true.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2022-09-14T13:22:01+00:00

There is a dude that tell some guys here they need to go outside and touch grass. I think that would be good for you. You been spending way to much time in echo chambers ONLINE, then claiming “I see women everywhere saying-“. Bruh: no you aren’t. You are reading about them or watching them on a screen.
Stop acting like it’s a “movement” most people in real life have no idea about the RP or even remember the old movie it’s referencing anymore.

Sudden_Substance7914 · 2022-09-14T13:55:46+00:00

Women have it easier at every level man. Even 30+ women have it easier than men of any age. That’s just the reality. It’s a supply and demand issue. Men want women more than women want men. The wall is real but post-wall women still have a lot of options. They don’t have as many good options as they did in their prime but the average post-wall woman has more options than the average man of any age. No point in denying it. I think everyone should accept that women have it easy when it comes to dating/sex/relationships.

2022-09-14T17:05:04+00:00

I constantly see women everywhere claiming that "real men" don't care about a woman's past

Because hook up culture has existed for sixty years in the west. Low and behold, those women (and men) who have hook ups at uni or whatever, all manage to get LTRs.

It casual sex had such a detrimental impact on women's ability to nail down men for commitment, there wouldn't be that many in commited relationahips.

Another big one I see is women deny the reality of the wall. All men are practically in agreement that women lose value over time, yet women just refuse to accept that

Women and girls are reminded everyday that looks diminish over time. I assure you we are very much aware of it.

The argument women are making on PPD (in general) is aging effects both men and women negatively, and that you guys seriously over exaggerate it.

Why would women disregard their own reality in favour of randoms rhetoric online? If a woman in her forties gets constantly flirted with by men IRL, why would believe you guys when you say she's undesirable?

Another big development is The Red Pill. The truth is that TRP is big and its influence affects the actions of millions of men today.

Normies are aware of incel culture as it has bled into the mainstream because of its ridiculousness and shock value (incel murders hitting the news).

Stunning-Potato-1984 · 2022-09-14T14:23:02+00:00

Eh in terms of "qualifying for men" it's basically just a tactic to undermine women's self confidence and convince them to accept less. That's common throughout history. More of the same. But now women are realizing it's blatant manipulation and not factual.

Correct-Warthog-9061 · 2022-09-14T13:17:43+00:00

But who gives women these delusions ? We do. This is our fault. No matter how messed a girl is, there is always a man or men willing to do what she wants. Thats it. This is our fault as men

KombuchaEnema · 2022-09-14T13:24:02+00:00

You’re just factually wrong.

My mom was a 50-year-old alcoholic high school dropout who smoked cigarettes and had four kids with two men. Divorced twice.

She landed a 30-year-old muscular intelligent man who looks like Ray Lewis. He stayed with her for four or five years. Moved in with her. Spent money on her. Took her on dates. Loved the fuck out of her.

“The wall” is men coping. Sorry, I didn’t want to believe it either, but it is. I grew up white trash in a trailer park. I’ve seen more women like my mom snagging men that are waaaay above their own value. Women like my mother have zero problems finding boyfriends.

I know a stripper with three kids from two different fathers. Recovering meth addict. Still has no problems…men line up at the door to date her.

Men want to sit here and act like “the wall” matters and y’all have so much power in the relationship marketplace…it’s all a cope.

As long as men are willing to date and marry “low value” women, you have zero power in either marketplace (sexual or relationship). You tell yourselves women will regret it when they hit the wall. That’s a cope. It’s not happening. Plenty of women in their 30s and 40s are having a grand old time dating around. Sex workers are getting filthy rich.

Women might complain about men who have standards. This isn’t evidence that women are struggling with dating. Of course women will complain about men with standards - they’re used to men who have zero standards. But make no mistake. She’ll have zero problems finding a guy who doesn’t care about her past. She just can’t handle the hit to her ego when a man does care about her past.

Keep coping, men. You’re rapidly losing power in the relationship marketplace (where you once had power) and people like Andrew Tate are giving you the illusion of regaining power…but you’re only continuing to hemorrhage.

The “alpha fucks” guy is still losing power. He’s still being used by the plates he claims to spin. It’s a giant lie that men have to be players and spin plates to have any power.

AF BB is a lie. There’s a middle-ground that’s rapidly disappearing because the market is flooded with simps.

captainsaveahoe69 · 2022-09-14T16:40:35+00:00

I've found it's best to just not care. It's an exercise in futility to get women to see reality about anything. Nothing is going to come between them and their " feelings".

Dapper_Art_8269 · 2022-09-14T13:35:02+00:00

It's redpill men who get pissed when their ideas don't turn out to be true.

Recently in my country there was a woman on tik tok who showed her much younger fiancè. The guy is hot, in his twenties. She is also attractive almost 40 and is a single mother. When red pill guys found out about her age they got pissed and tried to get her banned (I know they were red pill, one of them called himseld "redpill warrior").

Other women were writing about their much younger husbands, or husbands they met in their 30s and 40s and these men were telling them that they were useless anyway, that they will die alone with cats and others disgusting things.

Red pill guys were also losing their shit when Orlando Bloom started dating Katy Perry, when almost 50 yo Heidi Klum married 29 yo rock star, or when Miranda Kerr married a younger billionare.

bunnakay · 2022-09-14T13:23:31+00:00

I'm not sure that reality is the same as "doing what you want them to according to your own ideology." This reads like a Christian wondering why more non-Christians don't care that they're going to Hell lol

TermAggravating8043 · 2022-09-14T15:20:28+00:00

What reality do you live in op??

throwaway164_3 · 2022-09-14T14:20:16+00:00

Get offline, get off this subreddit and enjoy life !

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prizefighterstudent · 2022-09-14T15:00:13+00:00

We'll see if the RP and its influence really is as strong as you mention.

RP principles like plates, frame, and game work to a certain extent for some men, and I have not seen it successful for most men. RP helped me through a tight spot in my dating life, but never reached the heights I had envisioned -- looksmaxxing was much more productive.

You're right that men come to accept their place in the hierarchy much more "gracefully" -- which is exactly why I disagree with your ideas about the wall. I've seen early 30's French Chadlites with 50-yo single mothers. I've seen tons of dudes marry late 30's to their looksmatch and agematch. I've traveled a bit, and have rarely seen a dude punch above his weight in the West. If most men are average, either by choice, laziness, or genes, then their comfort in the hierarchy will earn them their match -- average.

The wall is real and women do suffer from it, especially emotionally immature ones and those who age prematurely. I've considered that maybe the reason women don't consider / believe in the wall is because their options continue to flow even as they age, as long as they stay somewhat attractive. All in all, the options of a 30s-40s woman will probably still be larger than a decently successful male.

darkvalleys · 2022-09-14T16:34:49+00:00

This is hard to believe when you create an female online dating or social media profile

roseonyxa · 2022-09-14T17:12:40+00:00

It's not men or women who cannot accept reality, it's everyone who cannot accept reality. Reality is ever-changing and humans are capable to change reality that is our nature but most of us don't realize that

stoic4343 · 2022-09-14T17:17:03+00:00

All this stuff is a waste of time. You have to learn to walk away from these people. Limit your liability to them. Prenuptial agreements. Only deal with successful families of people or import someone with your values. These people will never change. They have no values and no moral compass. Talking to or interacting with them is a waste of time. Limit your circle and keep them out. Shake hands and keep thins professional and cordial. At no time to you take any liability with these people. Women will squander their best years with dirt bags and casual sex. Provide little to no assistance in the maintenance of a house hold. Avoid them. Cease discussing them. Recognize them for what they are and segregate yourself from them.

ProfessorFelix0812 · 2022-09-14T17:28:39+00:00

I read bitter posts like this one, and realize why dudes can’t get laid anymore…

Title	It's women, not men that can't accept the reality of their dating situation
Author	MAGA-Latino
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Comments	92
Date	September 14, 2022 12:32 PM UTC (4 months ago)
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