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Title It's women, not men that can't accept the reality of their dating situation
Author MAGA-Latino
Upvotes 23
Comments 92
Date September 14, 2022 12:32 PM UTC (4 months ago)
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[–]tinasnow-poty 19 points20 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

A very loud minority online is making you think we don’t know, but we know.

A lot of girls know body count is important. That’s why some girls lie about it. Or why not being ran through is a badge of honour.

There are some people who look better in their 30s, but I’m sure everyone agrees youth is beauty. However, do all options disappear for women after 25, 30, 35, 40, or whatever the wall number is these days? No. Sure, men prefer younger women, but can men get these younger women? Generally, no. Sure some top specimen is banging 20 year olds week in week out. But the vast majority of 35, 40 year old men are not hot enough nor rich enough to be dating women 15 years younger. Nor do all of them even want to. This may come as a shock to you, but some men value things more than sex and want a life partner which generally younger women are not suited to. Divorced men in their 40s and 50s are dating other divorced ladies in their 40s and 50s. So yes, whilst a woman may not be as beautiful as she was when she was 21, she can probably still find a nice partner especially after the wave of divorces that happen in the late 30s.

If a woman wants to be single and lonely because of her high standards, i don’t see how it affects anyone else. Unless, the people she “should” be sleeping with are upset that she’s not, of course.

Again, just because people talk online doesn’t mean people don’t know these things. You’re hardly going to see someone come and tweet, “so I’ve actually realised I’m a 4.5 at best”

[–]thetruthishere_Chads Pay Me 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

So many of them thinking you're suddenly ugly now past 25...

Sure we all looked better in our youth but you can still be attractive as you age.

The 40+ men were more attractive too in their youth.

[–]FlyV89 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The 40+ men were more attractive too in their youth.

Honestly, at my 33 years old, I just kick fucking asses. And I was actually quite good looking a decade or more ago, but some people do get better with age.

IDK how am I going to look at +40, but now I can tell you I'm more excited than worried about it.

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

OK best comment. 🥇

[–]Bubbly_Taro 19 points20 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Almost nobody has an overarching plan or meta information about dating. Neither men nor women.

People for the most part live in the moment and react to stimuli as they present themselves.

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I disagree. We're not like animals. We can analyze information and make plans.

[–]Bubbly_Taro 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Can" is the operative word here.

[–]Siukslinis_acc 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You analise the costs and decide to install air-water heating (gained some compensation feom state due to the initiative of reducing the usage of fossil fuels). And bam after a year or two war in ukraine, energy crysis in europe and a kw/h of electricity doesn't cost 14 cents, it costs 60 cents. And now your heating costs have skyrocketed.

You can't plan for everything and sometimes the planing itself costs too much resources for the results it might bring. Like you are interested in a girl, you analyse the situation and by the time you finish the analysis, the girl already got a boyfriend.p

[–]jacemanoanti incel 16 points17 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Confirmation bias. You're hearing about the unhappy ones.

Plenty of women out their happy in relationships. They just aren't shouting about their happiness on the internet

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

OK very true. I'm talking about people that are dating. Not married people or people in relationships.

[–]HazyMemory7They hated me because I spoke the truth 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you sure about that? Seems that there is an alarming number of single women over 30+ these days. Women complain about modern dating too.

P.S Good post OP.

[–]Acaciduh 12 points13 points  (55 children) | Copy Link

No matter what men on here like to state women’s “realities” are the actual reality they live in begs to differ because they still have options. Women with high n-counts and women past 30 still find plenty of options for relationships and marriage. Are some women unhappy with their dating life - sure, is it on the same scale as unhappy men - no way. This is why there’s a few fringe places like FDS and a million “Incel” type subreddits and forums for men to complain. Women wd rather be single than settle because they can make their own money, obtain easy sex if they have that itch to scratch and can form pseudo relationship bonds with friends, family that counteract the need to be in a relationship if they can’t find what they are looking for. Men by and large will settle because then at least they will have access to sex and for a large portion of them that’s the only thing that provides them with validation.

[–]lovelythecove 4 points5 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

Don’t forget that there’s never been a rogue FDS woman who has gone postal and killed a bunch of men because they don’t want to marry her. Yet we have multiple examples of red pill/incel/etc. men who have done this. Seems like women who are unhappy with their dating prospects actually accept it in a much healthier way than men.

[–]Acaciduh 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes this exactly as well. Great point.

[–]Wqtr100 1 point2 points  (18 children) | Copy Link

Feminists have killed more men than incels have killed women. Not to mention that every time a man kills a woman it gets into mainstream media, whereas it rarely gets into mainstream media whenever a woman kills a man.

[–]lovelythecove 0 points1 point  (17 children) | Copy Link

Cool, have any actual source for this absolutely bizarre claim, or is this just a “trust me, bro” moment? You can’t prove it because it’s simply false. Feminists aren’t killing men. Females in general are rarely even killing men.

MEN kill women and other men way way more than women kill men or other women.

[–]Wqtr100 0 points1 point  (16 children) | Copy Link

Christ, you really have serious reading comprehension issues. I never said that women kill more men than men kill women. Try again, moron.

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 0 points1 point  (33 children) | Copy Link

Yeah they still have options just not any good ones after a certain point. Which what my post was about.

I also doubt that older women are happier single. Everyone needs someone to help them when they get older. Even to get sex they no longer have the SMV advantage. Sure I banged plenty of older women in the past myself (see my post), I just wasn't spending any money on them.

[–]Acaciduh 9 points10 points  (32 children) | Copy Link

Doesn’t matter because they still have options. Less options doesn’t mean none or even not still abundant. Also “good” is highly subjective. You’re delusional if you think older women or high n-women are only left with drug addicted meth heads. Can they bag a millionaire Chad maybe not - can they bag a nice Billy beta from accounting or used car sales guy Steve who is sweet to her and provides a nice life - absolutely. Happens all the time. The happiest single ladies I know are older, divorced and kids are grown. They travel, have extremely active social lives, grand kids, etc. Again, because women can fill their validation cup with many other things besides sex which men typically cannot they are perfectly content with the single life. Your whole premise that women can’t accept their “reality” is contingent on that being their reality - which for most it’s not and never will be. Unless some wide swath of society changes and women no longer have these options there’s no need to change what’s clearly working for them.

[–]Sudden_Substance7914 0 points1 point  (16 children) | Copy Link

So, if all this is true, why do women get bent out of shape when men talk about female privilege in dating/relationships/sex? I mean why not just admit that women live on easy mode in realm of dating?

[–]Acaciduh 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think other than places like FDS or Two X women generally agree men have it rougher in dating. Even if individual women have a hard time dating they still have infinitely more options than their male counterparts.

[–]Dapper_Art_8269 5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Because it's not a privelege when men see us as fuckmeat.

[–]lovelythecove 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It’s just that women and men have different struggles when it comes to dating/sex. I’m not sure why so many men on here can’t understand that. Just because the average woman has more options than the average man doesn’t mean that there are no other issues women face with dating/sex??

[–]funlightmandarin 4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

So, if all this is true, why do women get bent out of shape when men talk about female privilege in dating/relationships/sex?

Because it's male solipsism; framed from what men would consider to be desirable.

Women don't consider it a privilege that many men consider women to be a warm hole or bangmaid-material even when they're uninterested in the woman as a person.

Y'all want the possibility of alot of casual, NSA sex with different women, that's fine.

But women don't. Heck, it just makes it more difficult to find the one, genuinely good match she wants because there's a significant portion of men who are quite willing to lie about their intentions or actual, true interest in the woman.

[–]greedyleopard42perc pilled 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

they have things easy in some ways because our culture has made it difficult in others. men, in part, create the problem. shaming women with high body counts yet also wanting to be able to get with a woman is a bit counterintuitive, at least if you’re not going to hold yourself to the same standards.

[–]he-is-i-and-i-am-him -1 points0 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

Women clearly don't want billy beta tho. So yes she has options but she doesn't want any of them... deep down in her older age she would still prefer the chad with a personality

[–]Acaciduh 6 points7 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Disagree. Women’s priorities change as they age. What was fun and exciting in your late teens and early twenties becomes drama and headaches as you age and want a family. Men also do this - they love fun party girl Stacey and then want to settle with sweet Betsy to wife up. Why is it okay for men but not for women. Also most women find their partners around their same age and social circle/class so they are very much attracted to them as by and large couples looks match and class match This settling doesn’t happen nearly as much as people on here claim.

[–]Barneysparky 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Have you ever been in a public place?

[–]wtknightGen X Slacker 7 points8 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Just because many women try to shame men into idealistically behaving how they think that men should behave doesn’t mean that they don’t understand men and dating. In fact, many women do understand based upon their own dating and sexual experiences and those of their friends. And, the more experience a women has, the more that they usually understand.

On the other hand, men are often inexperienced and think that they understand more than they do about women based upon “internet theories” about women. What men seem to understand least in my opinion is how much individual women can vary in personality.

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Well you do have a point. I know many of the things we hear is really feminists trying to socially engineer men to suit there needs.

It just doesn't seem like many women understand. I know some do but most of them are delusional. They seem to act as if we aren't aware of their alpha fux/beta bucks strategy. I see many women are even trying to go even farther and are trying to offer the beta even less in the end.

[–]greedyleopard42perc pilled 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

i really don’t think as many women have an afbb strategy as you think. i prefer relationships with attractive guys i very much want to have sex with. why would i date them otherwise

[–]FlyV89 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've met around 70 something women during my 33 years of lifetime.

Honestly, MOST women look alike a lot more than they not.

And that's fine too. Men are like most men too, because on average most humans are average.

The thing is that men don't lie to others and they don't try to kid themselves neither.

Something un which ALL women are the same, is that they want one thing, say a different thing and then do a completely different thing.

Men just... Well, don't.

Remember the "all men can think about is just sex"?

Well, yes. That's me too.

[–]Sad_Entertainer6312 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What men seem to understand least in my opinion is how much individual women can vary in personality.

We understand the variance in personality. We just see the same basic underlying traits in almost every women no matter what their personality differences are.

[–]wtknightGen X Slacker 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I get this to a certain point. But even in their commonalities women vary. From my own dating experience, some women insist on a taller guy. Others haven’t minded that I’m only 5’8”. Some women liked that I was bookish and intelligent. Others thought that I was an unmasculine nerd.

That’s the kind of variation I’m talking about. Men seem to think that there is some magical formula for attracting every woman. But this is just not the case because individual women vary way too much.

[–]October-Farzinga 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Men may get angry and frustrated with trying to date, but women know exactly what they're doing.

Women, even the mediocre, have tremendous success at attracting men, it's just, as you said, the entitlement of having massive selection.

The only "problem", is not enough rich Chads committing to them. That's all. And as they get older, and there's less top tier options, they "settle", except they're not settling. Men think they're settling, but, again, they know exactly what they're doing.

A misunderstanding is listening to feminists who lie about everything. It's not just looks. It's also (and primarily) about money. So when men think women are settling in looks, that fades off pretty fast after youth as their primary goal. Money is the primary goal. Just some women confuse men because they think women think like men and are driven like men. Women don't have anything close or even in the same zip code as a sex drive as men do, and men do not have a money drive (from relationships) as women do.

How often to you see women insulting men about looks compared to money? It's dusty this, and can't afford that, and broke men this and that and the other? Why is the entirety of feminism about women doing zero manual labor of any kind and 100% about money? Why are all women's lies about history that they never experienced about how women are enslaved to men because of money?

Money money money. Women aren't "settling", they aren't hitting "a wall", they just have the money priority become more powerful than Chad looks. Sure, they want Chad looks, but money is greater than Chad the F-boy past a certain age.

If anything, "settling" comes like "the wall", which is women's priorities start maximizing money over looks.

Women care about money so P&D is "bad", but it's perfectly fine before the money wall comes up. Work? Labor? Don't care. It's that sexy money that is king. And women don't barely hit any physical "wall".

Women spend the majority of their lives being harassed and lusted after by easily manipulateable simps. Why else do they have orbiters? Despite the lying, even a dusty simp spending his last $20 on giving her a happy meal is money she doesn't have to pay. And all those $20s build up into fat stacks when you look at the volume of men making it rain a coffee date at a time.

So no, I disagree. Women don't hit a wall, they can get men's interest their entire lives (assuming they don't completely give up and hit a cheesecake a day), with only a few having a few bad years between 0-4 not being sexually harassed.

They live a full half a century with unwanted male attention. Women get sexually harassed their entire "peak lives", which they don't want, then they just start accepting the money which men stupidly think is some sort of desperation.

Why do you think women claim to be happier and whatever when single? No woman is ever single unless they hide in their basement like an incel. They always have options, no matter what they claim. When they do lie about it, what they mean is, those gross 900 messages a day I get from poor non-Chad shows I can't attract men.

Hoping Chad is rich and interested can be difficult, but how hard is it for a woman who has even less than 500 messages from men a day who spends 30 minutes a day on a treadmill and has a salad once in awhile to grab herself some MC male desperate for even a vaguely polite woman?

There is no wall, just women making money more priority than Chad.

It's not like they particularly like or care about either one.

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I disagree they do settle because they usually end up with a much lesser man then they could have gotten.

I also know that a woman can still get attention even post wall. The reason those were are single is because they didn't find a man willing to spend on them. Messages online don't mean anything. Those men are just seeing if they can smash without having to pay.

I also don't see women getting beta bucks as easily as they used to. That's why you're seeing an increase in single older women. I know plenty of women that are having trouble finding a beta bucks. Why do you think you're even seeing so many women complaining online? They're not complaining about not having access to Chad's dick. They're complaining about not being able to find that beta bucks. Like Alan Roger Curry said, it's "The beta male revolution".

I even had several women that thought I was going to be their beta bucks. They were very disappointed. My friends that are now successful are not lining up to be a beta bucks. No they're getting their passports or just running through females that think they're going to save them.

[–]risdeveau 5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Why would we believe in the wall, when we can see women doing fine after 30?

Why would we believe in n counts mattering, when sluts marry?

Why would we believe men are holding out when they’re so thirsty and desperate?

Why would we believe men’s judgement, when they shoot their shots recklessly and indiscriminately?

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

OK keep gaslighting yourself. Good luck

[–]LaserFace7781 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Everything he said is true. You are coping.

You refuse to understand that women are ok with being alone if their standards are not met. Why should they adjust their expectations then?

[–]Mrs_DrgreeNow Accepting Simp Applications[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your comment was removed for cope.

[–]ruboyuri 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women are delusional after the sex; men are delusional before

[–]Valuable-Marzipan761 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Seems pretty clear that there are too many whiners of both sex. I don't see how you can be on this sub and think men aren't struggling to accept the reality of dating.

All men are practically in agreement that women lose value over time

Yeah that's not true.

[–]Lift_and_LurkNo Pill 8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

There is a dude that tell some guys here they need to go outside and touch grass. I think that would be good for you. You been spending way to much time in echo chambers ONLINE, then claiming “I see women everywhere saying-“. Bruh: no you aren’t. You are reading about them or watching them on a screen.
Stop acting like it’s a “movement” most people in real life have no idea about the RP or even remember the old movie it’s referencing anymore.

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Please I'm a medical professional. I spend all day with post wall women. I'm also a very good listener.

[–]SoIlikeMangos 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Go call your mom post wall woman. I'm sure she would love that.

[–]Lift_and_LurkNo Pill 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Uh huh....

[–]Sudden_Substance7914 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Women have it easier at every level man. Even 30+ women have it easier than men of any age. That’s just the reality. It’s a supply and demand issue. Men want women more than women want men. The wall is real but post-wall women still have a lot of options. They don’t have as many good options as they did in their prime but the average post-wall woman has more options than the average man of any age. No point in denying it. I think everyone should accept that women have it easy when it comes to dating/sex/relationships.

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Nah the women my age don't have the options I have anymore. They had more options in the past sure, but not anymore. I wouldn't even date the girls I used to date. I'm successful and they're older. I'm living it up now and they're just sitting around looking stupid and lonely. One of my ex girlfriends just told me that she's in a long distance relationship. She sunk to the level of a incel talking about long distance as if that's really a thing.

[–]Barneysparky 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

My husband and I spent four years living thousands of miles away from each other half the year. I didn't know we weren't in a relationship.

Sound like the gal found someone she connected with very well. The only person with negative thoughts about it, is yourself.

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

So you spent half a year with him. She never sees this dude.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I constantly see women everywhere claiming that "real men" don't care about a woman's past

Because hook up culture has existed for sixty years in the west. Low and behold, those women (and men) who have hook ups at uni or whatever, all manage to get LTRs.

It casual sex had such a detrimental impact on women's ability to nail down men for commitment, there wouldn't be that many in commited relationahips.

Another big one I see is women deny the reality of the wall. All men are practically in agreement that women lose value over time, yet women just refuse to accept that

Women and girls are reminded everyday that looks diminish over time. I assure you we are very much aware of it.

The argument women are making on PPD (in general) is aging effects both men and women negatively, and that you guys seriously over exaggerate it.

Why would women disregard their own reality in favour of randoms rhetoric online? If a woman in her forties gets constantly flirted with by men IRL, why would believe you guys when you say she's undesirable?

Another big development is The Red Pill. The truth is that TRP is big and its influence affects the actions of millions of men today.

Normies are aware of incel culture as it has bled into the mainstream because of its ridiculousness and shock value (incel murders hitting the news).

[–]Stunning-Potato-1984 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Eh in terms of "qualifying for men" it's basically just a tactic to undermine women's self confidence and convince them to accept less. That's common throughout history. More of the same. But now women are realizing it's blatant manipulation and not factual.

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

See your one of the women I wrote about. Because now that I'm successful I wouldn't date the same type of women I did when I was broke. No the standards have gone up.

[–]Stunning-Potato-1984 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Cool assumption but not accurate. I'm with a very successful man.

Your concepts are all inherently flawed, inaccurate, and false narratives presented as some kind of epidemic to convince women to accept less. Because they stopped doing that.

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

No your delusional if you think HVM are going to date old, used, or ugly women. They have to meet certain qualifications just like in a job interview.

[–]Stunning-Potato-1984 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you married or in a committed LTR?

What you're saying is completely contradictory to what I have seen in well actual life.

I think this is one of those: "speak for yourself" kind of moments.

Most men are just normal dudes. They want a wife, a nice home, a job that isn't too soul sucking and 2 kids. Most divorced men just want a woman around their age and are totally cool with step kids.

What you're saying is common, isn't.

[–]Correct-Warthog-9061 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

But who gives women these delusions ? We do. This is our fault. No matter how messed a girl is, there is always a man or men willing to do what she wants. Thats it. This is our fault as men

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah good point. But it usually doesn't last forever. After a certain point, only losers are still telling them that.

[–]Mydragonurdungeon 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Can the single most powerful instinct men have be realistically classified as a choice they are making?

[–]KombuchaEnema1 points [recovered] (9 children) | Copy Link

You’re just factually wrong.

My mom was a 50-year-old alcoholic high school dropout who smoked cigarettes and had four kids with two men. Divorced twice.

She landed a 30-year-old muscular intelligent man who looks like Ray Lewis. He stayed with her for four or five years. Moved in with her. Spent money on her. Took her on dates. Loved the fuck out of her.

“The wall” is men coping. Sorry, I didn’t want to believe it either, but it is. I grew up white trash in a trailer park. I’ve seen more women like my mom snagging men that are waaaay above their own value. Women like my mother have zero problems finding boyfriends.

I know a stripper with three kids from two different fathers. Recovering meth addict. Still has no problems…men line up at the door to date her.

Men want to sit here and act like “the wall” matters and y’all have so much power in the relationship marketplace…it’s all a cope.

As long as men are willing to date and marry “low value” women, you have zero power in either marketplace (sexual or relationship). You tell yourselves women will regret it when they hit the wall. That’s a cope. It’s not happening. Plenty of women in their 30s and 40s are having a grand old time dating around. Sex workers are getting filthy rich.

Women might complain about men who have standards. This isn’t evidence that women are struggling with dating. Of course women will complain about men with standards - they’re used to men who have zero standards. But make no mistake. She’ll have zero problems finding a guy who doesn’t care about her past. She just can’t handle the hit to her ego when a man does care about her past.

Keep coping, men. You’re rapidly losing power in the relationship marketplace (where you once had power) and people like Andrew Tate are giving you the illusion of regaining power…but you’re only continuing to hemorrhage.

The “alpha fucks” guy is still losing power. He’s still being used by the plates he claims to spin. It’s a giant lie that men have to be players and spin plates to have any power.

AF BB is a lie. There’s a middle-ground that’s rapidly disappearing because the market is flooded with simps.

[–]ZtstraNo Pill 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Men dont cope with making up the wall, the wall is real (although not as much as men would like to believe but its still there). You never really lose female priviledge completely. There is a point in time where pretty priviledge doesnt apply to you as much as it did and that is true in most cases. It doesnt dissapear but its a lot less prominent. If the wall means losing all priviledge then yeah, its not true but in my book its not that.

Men cope by pretending we dont hit the wall even though realistically, we hit it at birth. The only proof of men not hitting the wall are Leonardo Dicaprio , Brad Pitt ..... and if we look at them as the general rule...... we are fucked lmao.

That losing power part is spot on. There is a reason divorced men are 8x more likely to kill themselves than women. Its harder for us and pretending otherwise is coping.

[–]prizefighterstudent 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

the wall is real (although not as much as men would like to believe but its still there)

My observation in a nutshell. While the female wall exists for nearly all women, the "male wall" isn't even a thing, because average dudes are trying to break through that wall their whole lives. Like you said, only Chad and Brad have a "wall", which is barely even worth mentioning.

[–]modidlee 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’ve seen more women like my mom snagging men that are waaaay above their own value. Women like my mother have zero problems finding boyfriends.

This is what I don’t get. The common narrative put out there is that there aren’t enough eligible men for women out there and most women feel they’re settling. But it looks like you’re saying it’s men that more often “settle.” Which one is it?

[–]InfoVariety-8842 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

50-year-old alcoholic high school dropout who smoked cigarettes and had four kids ….landed a 30-year-old muscular intelligent man

I have no way of knowing if this is actually real, that doesn’t really matter, but the fact you think this is some sort of trend, or the norm that most people experience is a pretty smooth brain take. Most “muscular intelligent men” in their 30’s don’t pine for what sounds like Mac’s mom from Always Sunny lol

[–]prizefighterstudent 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You may be surprised -- I've seen it play out. It's complex though.

My buddy's mom is in her mid-50's, pretty busted, two kids, smokes daily. She's been with a French Chadlite, mid-30's for many years, very toxic. My buddy and him have fought physically several times -- they still stay together.

My neighbour divorced in her late 40's. She dated late 20's black bodybuilders, businessmen, the works. She was kinda hot though.

I think that if women are resourceful and even remotely attractive, they can figure something out that they're ok with. The same can't always be said for men.

[–]MAGA-Latino1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

OK femcel.

Well for one people do occasionally get lucky. It's rare but it does happen occasionally. Which is why your mom should hold onto the Ray Lewis dude.

As for your stripper friend, that doesn't mean that those men actually want to date her. Most likely they are just telling her BS to smash. The men could even be lying to themselves. Plenty of men tried to date these women and then found out they just couldn't.

You are just one of the women I spoke about that can't face facts.

[–]Mrs_DrgreeNow Accepting Simp Applications[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Be civil.

[–]SwaySh0t 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree that the market is flooded with simps and losers but your mother is the exception to rule—the exception to the rule doesn’t invalidate the rule

[–]Mrs_DrgreeNow Accepting Simp Applications[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your comment was removed for cope. No trolling.

[–]captainsaveahoe69 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I've found it's best to just not care. It's an exercise in futility to get women to see reality about anything. Nothing is going to come between them and their " feelings".

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah ain't that the truth.

[–]Dapper_Art_8269 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

It's redpill men who get pissed when their ideas don't turn out to be true.

Recently in my country there was a woman on tik tok who showed her much younger fiancè. The guy is hot, in his twenties. She is also attractive almost 40 and is a single mother. When red pill guys found out about her age they got pissed and tried to get her banned (I know they were red pill, one of them called himseld "redpill warrior").

Other women were writing about their much younger husbands, or husbands they met in their 30s and 40s and these men were telling them that they were useless anyway, that they will die alone with cats and others disgusting things.

Red pill guys were also losing their shit when Orlando Bloom started dating Katy Perry, when almost 50 yo Heidi Klum married 29 yo rock star, or when Miranda Kerr married a younger billionare.

[–]blueberrypie02 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

People get so pissed when the internet formula they found for relationships doesn’t play out in real life. If you truly are a high value man or woman you really don’t give a shit about what others do in their dating life-you just keep on doing your thing. Everyone should try to be the best version of themselves, regardless of what internet echo chambers say the future looks like.

[–]prizefighterstudent 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's redpill men who get pissed when their ideas don't turn out to be true.

The RP has some good tactics and principles that are sometimes true, that's it.

All the things you've mentioned are notable. I probably only know 3 real Chads in my life -- dudes who slayed in high school and college, racked up 20+ bodies with ease. They still hit them all over the board (not ugly, but average or passable) and ended up in LT relationships with girls I thought were just decent. Dating is much more nuanced than we might think -- some dudes are truly undateable, but lots of people just have to looksmaxx and get in the mix!

[–]bunnakaybirth control pill 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not sure that reality is the same as "doing what you want them to according to your own ideology." This reads like a Christian wondering why more non-Christians don't care that they're going to Hell lol

[–]TermAggravating8043 -1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

What reality do you live in op??

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

One where I actually became a high value man. I also spend all day (work) with older and mostly single women.

[–]TermAggravating8043 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

So you think these women are all passed the wall and depressed they didn’t get a man? But you? A redpilled man have a new women every night?

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

No I'm married but they're still depressed.

[–]TermAggravating8043 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

And your convinced it’s because their single?

[–]throwaway164_3 -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Get offline, get off this subreddit and enjoy life !

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[–]prizefighterstudent 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

We'll see if the RP and its influence really is as strong as you mention.

RP principles like plates, frame, and game work to a certain extent for some men, and I have not seen it successful for most men. RP helped me through a tight spot in my dating life, but never reached the heights I had envisioned -- looksmaxxing was much more productive.

You're right that men come to accept their place in the hierarchy much more "gracefully" -- which is exactly why I disagree with your ideas about the wall. I've seen early 30's French Chadlites with 50-yo single mothers. I've seen tons of dudes marry late 30's to their looksmatch and agematch. I've traveled a bit, and have rarely seen a dude punch above his weight in the West. If most men are average, either by choice, laziness, or genes, then their comfort in the hierarchy will earn them their match -- average.

The wall is real and women do suffer from it, especially emotionally immature ones and those who age prematurely. I've considered that maybe the reason women don't consider / believe in the wall is because their options continue to flow even as they age, as long as they stay somewhat attractive. All in all, the options of a 30s-40s woman will probably still be larger than a decently successful male.

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

RP principles like plates, frame, and game work to a certain extent for some men, and I have not seen it successful for most men.

Nah I don't think it could work for everyone. Because if everyone is doing it, then that just becomes the new average.

I remember when PUA first came out. All those tricks used to work wonders when nobody knew about it.

[–]prizefighterstudent 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Social media maturation (post-2018) pretty much killed RP IMO. Lookism and serial clout are much more prevalent now. The game has changed.

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah kinda hard to be high value on IG. I remember Roosh said that in the future men will need some celebrity status. I think the future is here

[–]prizefighterstudent 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

in the future men will need some celebrity status

Couldn't agree more. You need to be at least social with a good reputation in most circles, especially if you're average. I also think seeking leadership is important, or at least not being a peon in any group you're in.

[–]darkvalleys 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is hard to believe when you create an female online dating or social media profile

[–]MAGA-Latino[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men will just swipe or even have sex first, and then try to decide if they like the girl or not. So WTF you talking about?

[–]roseonyxa 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not men or women who cannot accept reality, it's everyone who cannot accept reality. Reality is ever-changing and humans are capable to change reality that is our nature but most of us don't realize that

[–]stoic4343 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

All this stuff is a waste of time. You have to learn to walk away from these people. Limit your liability to them. Prenuptial agreements. Only deal with successful families of people or import someone with your values. These people will never change. They have no values and no moral compass. Talking to or interacting with them is a waste of time. Limit your circle and keep them out. Shake hands and keep thins professional and cordial. At no time to you take any liability with these people. Women will squander their best years with dirt bags and casual sex. Provide little to no assistance in the maintenance of a house hold. Avoid them. Cease discussing them. Recognize them for what they are and segregate yourself from them.

[–]ProfessorFelix0812 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I read bitter posts like this one, and realize why dudes can’t get laid anymore…

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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