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[–]SomeTurdInTheWind71 points72 points73 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Guys would be taller if they watched 3 movies with female protagonists at once while taking a shower
[–]DunSorbus22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Most people here won't be able to appreciate incel jokes lol
[–]tickledpic4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Care to explain?
[–]eboy4hire22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I had to think about it for a sec, but it's a combination of "just take a shower bro" and a possibly original take of: "real men watch movies with female protagonists" and a reference to those two things solving all of a guy's dating problems.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
"real men watch movies with female protagonists"
Who says this tho?
[–]eboy4hire6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Nobody, but I'd say it's a meme making fun of feminists.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah was gonna say I doubt anyone says that unironically but it makes sense in that context.
[–]The-Pokester0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That one feminist buzzfeed video has a dumb assumption that men don’t like movies with a female protagonist. But those types of feminists are the bottom of the barrel.
[–]w8-a-sec7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wrong
[–]Here4thebeer3232No Pill1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've lurked enough incel groups to get all the jokes sanctioned by Saint Blackopscel.
[–]HeartofDestiny35 points36 points37 points 4 years ago (49 children) | Copy Link
also do women realise there are more men 5'8 and below in America than 6'0+, yet they act like 6'0 is a must have requirement.
[–]Iron-Giant16915 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Most men aren’t fit for reproduction in Women’s eyes
[–]FlavFal31F[S] 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Only 10% of men are over 6 feet I think.
[–]CandleLessPurple Pill Man6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
6 and a half inch but yeah close enough
[–]PickUpScientistMaroon Pill3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
what is especially annoying is that polo shirts are designed specifically for these rare behemoths. fuck sake, regular people need shirts too.
[–]kindablissful0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
honestly, (5’10, so i’m treading the middle line a little, but) it has been annoying. go for slim fits, usually the bottoms are nicer. I also started lifting more for the sole purpose of filling out the shoulders of my polos, so there’s that haha
[–]PickUpScientistMaroon Pill0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
heeeey yep. i'm wearing a size ralph lauren sells right now called "custom slim" which is their hybrid of slim and regular (short like slim, but thick enough not to be too tight). i bought like 9 of them now and i'm not rich or anything, i just got so used to wearing proper clothes i can't bring myself to wear my old giant retarded shit anymore. i'm 5'10" as well.
[–]8ritt8ee0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I can never find pants that aren’t too long, even in the petite section. Usually costs $5-$7 to take them to a tailor to hem them where I am. Probably the same for shirts. And even if you have to buy less expensive clothes, you look much better in cheap clothes that fit exactly right than expensive ones that don’t.
[–]wtfismylifehelp1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
I honestly don't think as much women have a height thing as it may seem from things online. Myself and all of my female friends (albeit I don't have many friends) have never dated someone over 6'0, and my current boyfriend is 5'7 and I'm 5'2 and a half. I don't personally like having to stand on my tippy toes just to hug or kiss someone, so I like that height.
[–]HeartofDestiny0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Online is real life, online shows us what women want. They don't put 6'0 in the bio then go in real life 5'6 is fine.
Your opinion is based on almost nothing and it goes against the facts and more importantly the experiences of short men.
[–]wtfismylifehelp1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
My opinion is based on my experiences, why is it less valid than the experiences of other people? We're both using anecdotal evidence here.
The thing is, what we end up seeing online isn't a full spectrum. You may see a lot of screenshots of girls with the 6'0 thing in their bio, and that might make it seem like a super common occurrence, but who's taking screenshots of all the bios that don't mention height? What gets popular online are the things that are radical and provoke outrage
[–]HeartofDestiny1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
sigh... https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/a3o2up/the_ultimate_heightpill_compilation/?utm_content=title&utm_medium=post_embed&utm_name=c0cc8067967f4da6aa044b06c4e24051&utm_source=embedly&utm_term=a3o2up
Here is the data showing short men struggle way more to get into relationships, marry later than their tall counterparts and that women are also more likely to be unsatisfied with short male partners. also a bunch of other things in there about general height discrimination..
These are the facts. Short men are fucked, denying it helps no one.
[–]wtfismylifehelp-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I never said short men don't struggle in comparison to tall men, I just said that it's more exaggerated online, and I don't think as much women think like that as it may seem. And short men aren't fucked, there are plenty of short guys who find girls. It's just a lot harder to.
[–]HeartofDestiny1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link
"more exaggerated online" "don't think as many women think like that" Based on what? you replied so quickly and clearly didn't look at a single study. I don't know why people say this. Do you think a short man will do any better in a bar or club? absolutely not it will be even more brutal being towered over by everyone there including the women in their heels. Within a friend group? again height puts a short male at a big disadvantage in comparison to her other orbiters and this "flaw" will need to be "made up for" Well, yes, that's the definiton of fucked, a poor man can become rich, it's just less likely. You're living in a fantasy land because you don't actually have lived experience as a short man, it's like white people saying "well racist ain't so bad anymore, me an my buddies don't hate the blacks"
4'11 man in his 40's will be a decent catch to desprate women that age but his youth would have been a complete shit show.
[–]wtfismylifehelp0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I actually did skim through the majority of the links, however I found from what I saw only three actually came from scholarly sources (one of them doesn't even let you read anything but the abstract) and that basically all of them came from magazines - the worst place to draw your scientific conclusions from. I didn't mention any of them because honestly, the links provided were not really relevant to what I was saying. I agreed that short men had it worse.
It's like white people saying "well racist ain't so bad anymore, me an my buddies don't hate the blacks"
I understand your point, but I think there is a big difference.
1) Black people were literally persecuted, while yes, short people do have it bad, but that's kind of an extreme comparison
2) If someone is saying "In my experience, most white people I know are racist" responding "Well in my experience, most of them aren't" is fine, but the problem is is that it's usually said in response to something like a black person being killed for being black, which in that case experience is irrelevant. But right now we're talking about experience. There is so much literature on how black people have been oppressed, not so much on short people - and the sources you supplied were somewhat lacking.
Edit: grammar
[–]HeartofDestiny1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You're kidding right? heightism is a very known form of oppression that mostly men suffer from. So "but black people have it worse" is not really relevant. Short men are defiantly oppressed all over the world that is not OK.
It's not like you even need studies to understand how short men are oppressed but just in case you're unaware..
Short men get paid less on average, get promoted less, get less respect generally, are often the joke of their "friend group", harder to do jobs such as actor or model, more likely to be harassed by other men, often know as "the short guy" not by who you are, accused of having a "complex" when standing up for yourself, accused of "over compensating" when going to the gym or buying new things, are more likely to be suicidal for not living up to societies standards of a man. Way less likely to get girlfriends, casual sex almost impossible, women less likely to be satisfied in the relationship, more likely yo have to date girls way below facial looks match.
But anyway your point "it's exaggerated online" is based upon nothing. If t were true short men would be doing fine before online dating, spoiler: they weren't.
[–]wtfismylifehelp0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
heightism is a very known form of oppression
By definition ppression means that the government/ruling class is using "unjust or cruel exercises of authority or power" against a certain group. Yes, short men may be disadvantaged in society, but there never has been any case of there being laws written that purposely limit the rights of short people. For example, men are disadvantaged in western society, because they get fucked over in court more often and a plethora of different reasons, but in many eastern societies women are oppressed because they, in law, literally do not have the same rights as men. Short people are disadvantaged. Ugly people, for example, experience all the same things you listed as short men, but they're not considered "oppressed".
My point "it's exaggerated online" is based on everything that happens online. Everything gets exaggerated, it's just the nature of the reactionary internet. Never said short men didn't have dating issues before the internet. Just that the issue seems more extreme now, as the things that spread around the internet are always extreme examples that provoke a lot of reactions
[–]kandyapplezincel larping as a thot3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
why do men say this as if rarity isn't in itself attractive
[–]MyDogLovesCorn20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
then how come midgets aren't universally considered to be attractive lmao
[–]kandyapplezincel larping as a thot3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
because its an associated factor and not absolute
if you like something + and its rare then those rare few will become even more desirable in your eyes
[–]TheRabbitTunnel3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You just said that rarity is in itself attractive. Now youre saying its attractive if its combined with an attractive quality (no shit).
Just admit you were wrong instead of contradicting yourself but pretending like you didnt.
[–]StarlingClarice1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No. Women don’t actually act like this lol.
[–]Big_Jomez3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wish
[–]ohheyhi99Conflicted Feminist Man, No Pill-2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Most don’t, but a minority does.
[+]insultin_crayon-7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
Women suck for having preferences, am I right?
[–]RopedCunt9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
men have preferences, women have requirements
[–]PickUpScientistMaroon Pill9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
man + preference = fetish
chick + preference = you go girl
[–]insultin_crayon-5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
If that’s the way you want to look at things, then sure. But women have preferences and there is nothing wrong with that whatsoever.
[–]Big_Jomez2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Theres a difference between preference and requirements. I prefer chocolate cake over vanilla but would still eat vanilla. Height, among other things is a requirement, not a preference. And if it's not a complete requirement, there's still a heavy bias.
[–]insultin_crayon-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Are women suddenly supposed to change what they find attractive just so you can date them?
[–]Big_Jomez2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
No, nothing in the world can change women (and people) from having unreasonably high standards. It would be futile to expect that.
The issue is when low value people feel entitled to high value and accept nothing less. So, they feel that any less than 5'7 is a subhuman, fine. Shallow, but fine. Any man above 6' should be worshipped? Fine to that as well. But if you're the female version of that "manlet" why should you expect to date anyone better than that man?
What would you think of a 5'4 man that will only accept a woman that's 5'11 or taller? Or a 6'3 dude that'll reject any girl over 5'3? You'd laugh your ass off, or at the very least find that very odd.
[–]insultin_crayon0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
women (and people)
Women ARE people, bud
Sure, I would think it odd, but people like what they like. As long as it’s legal I don’t see anything wrong with that.
See, liking tall is one thing, but being absolutely repulsed by short at the same time is something else entirely, and worshipping height like it's the end all be all (or close to it at least) is something else. Nobody deserves to feel that their shortcomings are insurmountable..but that's the situation of the dating game.
[–]Big_Jomez0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I just realized that sounded weird. I should've said women (and men)
[–]Jonmad171 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
No, but women do deserved to be chastised for this shit: https://imgur.com/a/8TJan
Men post stupid crap like that too. You would have a conniption if men were chastised for it
[–]Jonmad172 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Are you fucking kidding me? Men are constantly chastised for what they post online. Fat-shaming has literally gotten people fired from jobs. Yet height-shaming isn't even seen as a legitimate thing by many people.
[–]insultin_crayon-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women started a movement against fat shaming. Why don’t men take their own initiative and start a movement against height shaming?
[–]eboy4hire2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
When you have preferences that eliminate 99% of men, the 99% are gonna be mad.
[+]insultin_crayon-7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I mean, that’s just life and it’s tough shit. You’re not entitled to be anyone’s preference.
[–]Big_Jomez5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They're entitled to have contempt for their unreasonably high expectations just like you're entitled to your unreasonable expectations.
[–]eboy4hire6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yeah but just because I'm not entitled to be anyone's preference, doesn't mean I'm not allowed to think women suck for having unrealistic preferences unironically.
[–]insultin_crayon-3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You can’t really help what you’re attracted to. Women aren’t attracted to you and that’s really not their fault.
[–]eboy4hire2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Some women have been attracted to me. Not the ones I want typically. I've banged 6 of them.
[–]ionicq3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Beauty and attractiveness standards are defined by culture. Culture is created by women and men like me and you. Culture can be changed. If men don't like current standards that women have they're free to express their feelings.
[–]Jonmad171 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And you're not entitled to people not attacking you for your preference. Men are constantly attacked for liking younger and thinner women. There's an entire academic field devoted to attempting to deconstruct the beauty standards men hold for women
[–]Salty-Bastardjust an excitable boy29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm thinking peach is not your color.
[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
Dear Short Guys
I'm 6'4", bitches don't come after me either.
Also if you make money and stand on it, you'll be over 6'0" and they'll be even more likely to be interested in you than they would me, all I have is rickety knees to hold me up
[–]binkerfluid8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
for real though how many dating app profiles just say "swipe left if you arnt 6'5"" though?
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And how many of those girls are using selfie tricks and filters to make themselves look younger and bustier than they really are?
[–]i-am-the-prize7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
+1 for reminding shorties that the grass ain't always greener.
[–]eboy4hire6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Women just want to use men for their money. They aren't attracted to a man because of their money. They are attracted to the money just like everybody else is.
[–]arcticshqip4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Wouldn't it be just easier to focus on making money rather than focus on getting a man with money? Then you would have your own money plus you could try to find real love.
[–]007_pp74 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Most of my life i have dated needy or co-dependent woman and Thats where the problem lies for most men i know. That is what i call an independent woman. this woman doesnt need any man or room mate for anything. Not finances,housework, whatever. Most men are accustomed to wearing the "pants" due to society ingraining this into our heads our entire lives.
a woman who has and can do all of the same things as men, makes alot of guys/men look at what they actually have to bring to the table. ( it kind of humbled me)
Tldr: im dating a woman who can do anything i can do, better than me most of the time. makes more money than me. Its soooo nice knowing im not needed like i have always felt needed
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Same here. Well I doubt she could do the exact same stuff I do better than me because we have different areas of skill. But she does not need me. She could go move into her own place with the money she gets from her own job and never see me again if she wanted.
She's with me because she loves and wants me, not out any need. There's something beautiful about that. I'd much rather have that than a woman who was dependent on me for financial support.
This is why I don't understand the desire tradcons have for 1950's housewives. Why do you want a woman who just needs you for money instead of wants you out of love and passion? Surely the latter is far more desirable?
[–]chante___2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Many women choose a partner from love and passion. I don’t understand why so many on reddit think women only want a man for money. Also most women work and make their own money. Your view seems a little warped to me.
And what makes you think housewives are just with a man for money? I’ve been with my husband since I was 16 (when neither of us had money) 11 years later and I still have nothing but love and passion for him. We are a team, we take care of each other.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Did you misread my post? We are on the same page. I said my gf earns her own money and could do fine without me. I wrote three paragraphs stating that point and how I see it as a positive.
Which part of my view is then warped to you? It seems we actually are in agreement.
And what makes you think housewives are just with a man for money?
In this day and age, as you said yourself most women make their own money. So I cast a suspicious eye at those who choose not to.
[–]boomcheese442 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Its better to feel wanted than to feel needed.
[–]eboy4hire0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's a different issue. I'm just talking about why a girl might be into a guy for money alone. She's not into him because of his money, she's just into his money in that case.
[–]U_feel_Me0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly right.
And, just because I’m prone to pushing buttons, this is why a man should arrange a reliable source of sexual release, so that he can pursue pure love without narrowing the pool of potential partners by their sexual availability/prowess.
[–]boomcheese440 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Thats what most women do, most households are 50/50 now.
[–]arcticshqip0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I know that because I'm a woman, but I just can't understand why some men still think women just want money from them. Maybe they have such low self-esteem that they don't see themselves as lovable.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Depends how wealthy that guy is. If you earn above the average salary and have a fair bit of disposable income it's likely you have people after you just for money, men and women alike. This is why they say "it's lonely at the top" because if you get to the point where you are proper rich this is amplified significantly and you can't really trust anyone.
It’s actually not 100% true, particularly for women who either have their own money or for those who could have money but reject the compromises required.
[–]Mr-Ultimate0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s harder for them because the competition with other men is fierce.
Appreciate the sentiment, but it really is a huge disadvantage.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
"She don't pray, but she like to get on her knees."
-Juicy J
[–]Willow-girlProud 2 B an American farmer7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
"She don't eat meat, but she sure likes the bone." - Some singer whose name escapes me
[–]i-am-the-prize3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Dumb and Dumber soundtrack: Deadeye Dick 'New age girl'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Be7DOfbYgA
[–]Willow-girlProud 2 B an American farmer0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks!
[–]stallisfolife15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
You can still pull chicks at 5’8. Just don’t be ugly and or out of shape
Yep 5'8" is not even short it's average ffs. It's also still tall enough to be taller than the majority of women. I'm 5'8" I've never been insecure about my height because it's never got in my way of fucking bitches.
I also have more charisma than 90% of the guys here though. Also more access to drugs. I got oxy I got Xanax I got speed I got acid I got MDMA I got the finest weed and baddest hoes.
[–]ZeppKfw2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's either you give drugs to the girls in exchange for sex or they're with you because drugs are badass and cool.
Little of column A, little of column B.
[–]Akpopo1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Is he w r o n g
[–]boomcheese440 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
he isnt. honestly, this height thing is just a wishlist. Be a few inches taller and look like a man, that should cut it.
[–]ConstantlyPooped43 points44 points45 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
“But, but...I have a vag?” Most of this is because women think their hairy fish is worth something.
[–]LeJacquelopeHaving a son is child abuse9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The truth though
[–]acmemetalworks17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ooooh it's worth something if they play their cards right.
[–]joeybuns3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't know why you're being downvoted, for the most part you're right
[–]playful_mythPink Pill Woman4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Men sure like to chase and beg for the "hairy fish".
[–]Jathrowaway973 points4 points5 points 4 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link
It’s resentment. Like when people get rejected and then call a guy gay or a girl an ugly b*tch for rejecting them.
[–]ConstantlyPooped1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
You’ll always have justifications for your shit behavior.
[–]Jathrowaway97-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Yeah that’s something you should work on.
[–]ConstantlyPooped0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Another justification blaming others, you’re on a roll
[–]Jathrowaway97-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Nah, I’m just keen to what’s going on here. It’s why my reply that wasn’t even to you directly triggered you and where you’re offended at me insinuating that your advice is best served on yourself. I’m sure you wouldn’t tell a man who has preferences and standards that he’s delusional for thinking his stinky turd sausage is worth something. I’m sorry but you truly read like those people who go around calling others “gay” and “b*tches” because they were rejected. So sorry about it but/:
[–]ConstantlyPooped4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Too long didn’t read
[–]Jathrowaway97-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
TLDR: you’re a hypocrite.
One pound fish.
[–]Iron-Giant1690 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Worth more than dick, that’s all that matters
[+]Tacsh-9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s worth what you put inside it
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[–]DaphneDK42TEMC (Trans Exclusionary Male Chauvinist)7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Who are you? The little manlet, or the fun sized girl?
[–]exit_sandmanstill not the MGTOW sandman FFS5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Flair indicates that she's the fun sized girl.
[–]MyOtherAccount320192 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes
[–]HeartofDestiny3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link
If you are 5'8 and struggling you just unattrative and they use your height to be "nice"
5'8 is enough for a chad
[–]WhiteningMcClean12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I'm 5'10 and while I wouldn't say I'm "struggling," I was literally just rejected because of height last week and it's not the first time it's happened recently. I can guarantee you I'm not unattractive or nice. I save my kindness for the girls who are relationship material.
[–]i-am-the-prize3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It will happen. Doesn't mean it's the rule. I am 5'11". I was rejected by a beautiful redhead years ago who was herself 5'10" and very shapely, as in bombshell from the 50's hair and body, and great face. We were friends of friends; known eachother for 5-6 years when I asked her out. She said:
1) She only dated guys taller than her when she wore heels, and more immediately:
2) she had a crush on a buddy of mine (who was 6'5") and asked if I'd introduce her, which I did and they dated for a while;
No worries, so we hung out that night, dancing the whole night. We were friends before my failed 'ask-out' so I didn't care about friendzone. What was very interesting (I didn't know what pre-selection and Social Proof were), I saw how the other women in the clubs/bars saw me with a 6'+ tall (she was in heels) dancing and having fun... and when I would talk to them getting a drink, etc, they'd all start with: "your girlfriend is beautiful" me: "oh, she's just a friend" (smile) and like clockwork. So i gladly went dancing with bombshell-buddy many times, and we'd leave separately. After a few times out, she finally asked: "am I your wing-woman?" me: "yup, too bad I wasn't taller, eh?" It was a mutually fruitful relationship, until one of her immediate girl posse developed feels for me. When this BFF expressed her wants to my bombshell wingwoman, she went cold and no-commo. Found that out a year later. Too bad, her friend was a cutie. So they'll help you get laid with strangers, but the BFF posse is a holy circle not to be broken it seems... ;)
[–]est-la-luneKinda cute kinda rock 'n' roll2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
If you're struggling at 5'10" you're approaching the wrong kind of women. Whatever they had in common, avoid. Save not only your kindness but your time and energy for the type of woman who's relationship material to begin with, i.e. not one who thinks she's owed a 6'1" guy because she exists.
[–]Jathrowaway971 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I don’t think most women think they’re “owed” one. It’s just a preference. Most people have them. No one is everyone’s type.
[–]Big_Jomez2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
They might not think they're "owed" but alot certainly feel they need that. There are some people who are everyone's (99% of people at least) type.
[–]Jathrowaway97-2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yet there’s still that 1% that doesn’t like them. The dating game isn’t going to change over night. If I was a short woman who came from a family of short people, I’d probably want to balance out my genetics too. I wouldn’t want to risk having a son that would low key despise me for making him short.
[–]Big_Jomez1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
And yet the 99% who do worship height think of the short men as some type of subhuman. Also, strong assumption that short men despise their parents because the world treats them like shit. It's the world's fault for treating them like lepers. God forbid a short woman has a short son.
It's a requirement, not a preference. And that's just sad. A preference is eating vanilla despite preferring chocolate. Yes, that's their choice in the end, but how can anyone be surprised that some people will be bitter about this situation.
[–]Jathrowaway97-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The world is a sucky place but one person can’t change it overnight so people that can’t lash out at easy targets. I was previously acquainted with a couple short men who were mildly resentful to their parents.
[–]Big_Jomez1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I can tell you that they were more than mildly resentful with the people that made them feel that they're not worth life more than the parents who brought them in.
Yeah. Life sucks. Its terrible. Woman will still worship height and be repulsed by short men and will reserve them no empathy. It's pointless in the end and theres nothing you can do about it. I guess we agree.
Yeah for real. At 5'8" no woman has ever rejected me for my height, or at least it's rare enough that's it's never been a given reason or even something I've heard said behind my back, and trust me I heard plenty of other bad shit said behind my back... never has my height been involved.
[–]FreevoulousPurple Pill Man8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
bollocks. Chad-ism is only measured with success.
[–]BlankPages2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No. Chad (real 6'1+) is sexxing girls every night so most girls think they are in that league bc they have all had sex with Chads.
[–]ItsOverBoyosLDARKeep calm and get cucked by Chad3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
5'8'' is not even close enough to be Chad. No such thing as manlet Chad. Chad height starts at 80th percentile imo.
[–]BelieveinyourflynessPurple Pill Man2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
Neymar, Robert Downey jr and Tom Cruise are not Chads? I'm not arguing that height doesn't matter I'm just pointing out that saying exceptions don't exist is also wrong
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
RDJ is only 5ft8? Huh.
[–]BelieveinyourflynessPurple Pill Man0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
5'7.75" according to celebheights
Huh. They do really well with the camera angles, I guess. Took me a while to realize Cruise was as short as he is too. Didn't know Criss Angel was short af till I visited the wax museum in Vegas. Just goes to show...
[–]BelieveinyourflynessPurple Pill Man0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He clearly carries his weight well. Obviously he wouldn't be a Hollywood actor if he were built like a telletubby
[–]binkerfluid-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
just be rich and famous, bro
we all know these are super outliers and the exception to the rule for obvious reasons
and even then they go out of their way to make them look taller in their movies
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Only Tom Cruise really does this.
[–]binkerfluid1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Search for the pics of RDJ tall shoes at some of the Marvel stuff next to his costars
I also think sometimes they made the guys walk on a platform or their costars in a ditch or something. Its been a while since I read this stuff.
Edit
https://www.buzznet.com/2013/04/whats-next/?adblock=1&chrome=1
https://www.therichest.com/world-entertainment/15-short-male-actors-who-secretly-wear-lifts/
[–]BelieveinyourflynessPurple Pill Man-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Some guys are rich and famous but still not considered Chads. Those guys are considered to be Chads
[–]ohheyhi99Conflicted Feminist Man, No Pill0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Being “Chad” is heavily dependent on the face.
[–]ItsOverBoyosLDARKeep calm and get cucked by Chad1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Face and height. Or you could say it is heavily dependent on the bones.
[–]Reed_49830 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Zac Efron?
[–]binkerfluid0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
in real life probably but in apps and dating profiles you are pre-excluded often
[–]imjgaltstill-3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
5'2 is enough for a chad if you stop listening to simpering females silly desires and hurl the alpha pipe.
[–]Willow-girlProud 2 B an American farmer-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Absolutely! Works for my man. I'm short too so hey, no problem.
[–]StarlingClarice1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
5’8 isn’t short. Women actually only care if their SO is taller than them, which 5’8 usually is. I’m 5’7 and my husband is 5’9. Perfect.
[–]ItsOverBoyosLDARKeep calm and get cucked by Chad5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
5'8'' is short in western countries. Many women want a man who is tall compared to other men, not compared to themselves.
[–]binkerfluid1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
which is fine in real life but when you enter OLD and app world thats not always the case at all.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I was never asked for my height even on Tinder. I get the feeling this height obsession is an American thing.
[–]binkerfluid0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
im assuming so. Its often put in their bio "if you are under 6' swipe left"
I always wondered what they say in metric countries because 6' is arbitrary for tall but they pick it because its a round number
[–]U_feel_Me0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
In Japan, the minimum acceptable height for guys used to be 170 cm (about 5’7”) but maybe now it’s 180 (just over 5’10”).
well shit
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well we use metric here but for height we still use feet and inches rather than cm for some reason. Other European countries use cm though, but idk anything about their SMP. It's like with weed too it's like the only thing still measured in ounces.
[–]Jonmad170 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Women actually only care if their SO is taller than them
I would say that half of all women only want their boyfriends to be taller than them, but the other half want their boyfriends to be tall in relation to other men, regardless of how tall they themselves are.
I completely disagree. I’m a woman, have grown up with women, see women everywhere. Most men are not 6 ft +, so who do you think 50% of women are dating?
[–]Jonmad170 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Just because you want something doesn't mean you can get it. In a monogamous culture the paucity of tall men makes it so that even if women want them, not all women can have them. But given that people are becoming less and less monogamous and tall men can be shared, height filters on dating apps are facilitating a sexual hierarchy among men that's tied very closely to height. Why do you think that so many guys are complaining about it all of a sudden?
Every study released on the subject shows that among the most important, if not THE most important, characteristic a man can have on a dating app is tallness. So it's not something that men just invented in their heads. Not to mention having to deal with this all day, which gives men the impression that women actively despise short men.
Women are sexually in demand during their years of fertility, and men of basically all ages pursue them, so, just as a numbers game, women experience constant demand. Men experience constant shortage (rock stars and 100% gay guys not included here).
But the good news for guys is, you’ll be popular in the nursing home, since men die earlier.
[–]pearand4pple0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Looks just like the right height though.
[–]champangemami180 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In all honesty, I’d prefer someone who is 5’6-5’9 over a 6ft guy. Just because I find it’d be easier to kiss and actually do cute couple shit.
[–]nidham210 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think it's because they want their kids to be taller and they are insecure about their height!
[–]throwawy_12262017-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Those shorts look cute on you.
[–]FlavFal31F[S] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
awww thank you
[–]justblowinoffsteamok 1 points 4 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link
Here's the thing, and this is coming from a 5'9" guy.
The myth of fairness and equality dies in the bedroom. There ain't shit you can do about it, so there's no point in being bitter. Your height is something you can't change (or at best you can wear lifts). You don't have MS or cancer, you just have one slight dating handicap, so it's better to let go and not focus on that. Some men are hideously ugly, some are stupid, some are poor, some have birth defects. There are far worse fates than being 5'8". What can you do but focus on what you can control and whatever your better qualities are?
That said, OLD does tend to accentuate this preference. Women screen because they can, so you don't even get a chance to charm them if you are below their height requirement (when in reality they might consider a guy below their "requirement" if he had the right other qualities). It's like an employer saying "Harvard and Yale only". They might find a better qualified person from State U, but if they can get enough resumes from Harvard and Yale then they won't bother. Yeah, it's "unfair." But all you can do is either meet women outside of OLD or focus on the ones that don't state a preference. Again, you might think life is supposed to be a certain way, but it don't be like that, so why waste your energy getting butthurt and making it even worse for yourself?
[–]Big_Jomez0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
While there is some bit of good advice in there...especially point #2... when life is unfair people are going to be sad about it (and rightfully so).
When you lose your job or house because of circumstances you couldn't have predicted, you're going to be a bit peeved about it.
When your wife or husband or child dies and you cant do anything about it, you're going to be livid. (Extreme example ik)
When you're born of a certain color and treated like a second class citizen due to it, you're going to feel a certain way about that.
When you get cancer out of the blue, you're going to hate life. (Or build a meth empire)
and, when you become a social leper to women due to your uncontrolable height or whatnot, you're going to feel a certain way about that, aren't you?
That's not to say that you should just give up on life, but lifes going to suck, and most people hate their circumstances at least in one point of their life.
And yes, there are thousands of things worse than being short, but equally there thousands of things better than it. It doesnt erase their suffering. If that was the case, then anytime anyone from any first world country complains about something, all we should do is point to a starving African child on t.v. and tell them to toughen up. Wise people don't really do that, do they?
Theres nothing in this world that will stop people from feeling sorry for themselves just as there is nothing that will stop people from having unrealistic standards.
Your advice boils down to: lifes sucks for you. Just stop giving a shit. Simple as that.
Agree completely.
[–]FlavFal31F[S] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm a 5'1" woman.
[–]justblowinoffsteamok0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sorry, not interested. Too short for me.
[–]FlavFal31F[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Understandable. My fiance is 10 inches taller than me and it can be a bit awkward.
[+]officerkondoRedder Shade of Purple Man-8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
You can be Chad at 5'0" so long as you are confident.
[–]KorinthosluHaberci8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
imagine believing this
[–]-TheGreasyPole-Pissed Off that Reddit Admins killed my old account-4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Prince can’t hear you over the sound of screaming females
[–]Big_Jomez0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Well it sure sucks were not all clones of prince then doesnt it
[–]-TheGreasyPole-Pissed Off that Reddit Admins killed my old account-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Steve Buscemi gets laid.
[–]Big_Jomez1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Yes, rich and famous people get laid. Even danny devito has a wife.
[–]-TheGreasyPole-Pissed Off that Reddit Admins killed my old account-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
There you go then. Not impossible.
[–]Big_Jomez0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Yes, just nigh impossible lol
[–]-TheGreasyPole-Pissed Off that Reddit Admins killed my old account-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
No, perfectly possible even for normal guys.
The world is heaving with ugly guys who have a chick.
If you can’t get a chick you have other problems on top of being ugly.
[–]Big_Jomez0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Some kernel of truth to that...but at a certain threshold of height most women become unattainable. Even if you're the 3rd coming of christ lol.
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