Whenever this is mentioned you hear the same stuff:

  • women determine your 5MV (despite clarifying that we are not discussing 5MV, but specifically objective appearance.)

  • “you are probably just overestimating your appearance” (despite you basing this on feedback from others)

  • “looks are just one box you have to check” (accurate, but reinforces my point that there is a laundry list of criteria that must be met to even be considered for the job.)

  • “this is not a business transaction where you walk up to a girl and say our attractiveness levels match so you have to date me”

And other gaslighting nonsense.

Like it or not, the real answer is that this is a reflection of the overall major problem with dating. Women have dramatically inflate self images from hyper inflated egos created by abundance in online dating, social media and in person. Everything else is simply smoke and mirrors.