Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities are

Devourer_of_felines · 2022-01-07T00:36:13+00:00

It’s got nothing to do with what men prioritize lol.

Think on it; when was the last time a man called off a relationship because he found a woman “intimidating” because she’s sooooo intelligent?

Men being put off by intelligent women is the same ego soothing BS as women who say they can’t find a man because they’re intimidated by her success. Meanwhile, financially successful women are statistically more likely to find a LTR.

Superb-Efficiency318 · 2022-01-06T23:03:37+00:00

I dont like dumb girls. In fact, if they are smarter then me I'm even more interested.

Reus_Irae · 2022-01-07T01:59:47+00:00

It's my experience that women who say men are intimidated by intelligent women, are often times not intelligent themselves but think they are, because otherwise there's no redeeming quality to them being assholes that can't keep a person close to them for longer than a few hours.

- Oh he left because he was intimidated by my intelligence

-No Linda, he left because you've been an asshole all night.

SKY_ACTIV3 · 2022-01-07T01:48:57+00:00

At the risk of sounding really pretentious, I’ve kinda tried to stop thinking about “intelligence” in other people in general. Like, what does intelligence actually entail in a person? Social skills? Success? Temperament?

It doesn’t mean anything on its own. There are many intelligent people that are horribly arrogant, not successful, and all around terrible to be around. There are also unintelligent people that excel in some areas, are socially calibrated.

Anything beyond that, and we’re talking more so about perceived gender roles than raw intelligence. (Man - dominant & competent, woman - agreeable & deferring, etc)

cocomoe · 2022-01-07T07:32:37+00:00

I'm an intelligent woman, and I have never (not even once) felt that men were intimidated by this. Quite the opposite.

It has always confused me when I hear women say that men are intimidated by intelligent women. I've always just assumed there must be something else going on? (Obnoxiousness? Inability to see things from a man's perspective?)

Arongelion · 2022-01-06T22:37:54+00:00

I find intelligence to be almost literally a requirement to be sexually attracted to a woman

But I'm not most men

For me it's a turn on if a girl can beat me at things

Outsmart me

Outrun me

Outshine me

I want to have a girl who I can show off. Who I'm PROUD to have.

I find it so absurd that women think guys don't like intelligent women Frankly msot people massively overrated their own intelligence anyway so alot of those people aren't actually very smart

LalaTheSecond · 2022-01-06T23:18:55+00:00

Intimidated and not likeing them are two different things. I don't think many men are intimidated but plenty don't like them and just want a yes (wo)man.

FrostieTheSnowman · 2022-01-07T03:56:39+00:00

As a man, I can tell you that I require intelligence for a relationship–no way around it, she's at least got to be capable of considering philosophical questions or it won't last a year. However, I will say that there are certain things COMMON among intelligent women that make me immediately reconsider any kind of relationship. This isn't an exhaustive list, but rather some examples of issues I've run into personally.

1: If the only things they ever want to talk about are intersectional feminism, trans rights, etc... Bye. I like to discuss these things, but good god some prospective partners I've met just never stop.

2: If they have no issue with shit like "#KillAllMen", or are otherwise a misandrist. I don't hate women for being women, and I'm disgusted by men who hate women, so it really throws me that so many women expect me to be okay with them hating men.

3: If they say I'm "man-splaining" when I'm genuinely just explaining something that they don't already know. You know what? Honestly, just mention of the word "man-splaining" in a serious light is enough for me to re-evaluate. I ain't trying to date a woman that can't argue with me as an equal person.

4: I like a competitive spirit, but nobody likes a one-upper. Don't think you're special sis, dudes drop other dudes for this shit too. It's cool to be competitive, and better at skills than your partner, but if you constantly feel the need to show your partner up to prove yourself, man or woman, you're kind of a dick.

I still ain't dating dummies though, just goes to show how picky I am I guess.

Cauligoblin · 2022-01-07T03:30:37+00:00

You can be smart and agreeable, a lot of the smartest people actually don’t make a huge show of being smart.

poppy_blu · 2022-01-07T00:14:39+00:00

Tbf dumb men are probably intimidated by smart women.

And why do you guys feel the need to point out that men prioritize looks in women as if everyone hasn’t known this since we were 3?

This has nothing to do with men being intimidated by smart women.

h1shman · 2022-01-06T23:35:38+00:00

I’d rather be with a woman who is exciting, playful, and a good communicator. Intelligence can mean so many different things. I care less about her solving complex issues and reciting facts than I do about her positive outlook on life and dealing with relationship issues.

Being financially dumb would be a deal breaker though.

SimilarSurround715 · 2022-01-07T01:25:36+00:00

It’s not even intelligence but the way you chose to present yourself

Ohmaygahh · 2022-01-07T15:58:43+00:00

To have a proper and productive conversation between peoples, we need to agree on the meaning of words and vocabulary. If we google "intimidation" we get

verb to frighten or overawe (someone), especially in order to make them do what one wants.

Normally when used in the context of hetero dating, women are extremely off base with using this word, used in context of their perceived accomplishments and material success.

No woman has ever frightened me or "overawed" me in this realm. That includes women who through hard work, independently went from rags to riches, women who have double PhDs and top tier NYC/Milan supermodels... why do women insist on using this word? It comically makes no sense.

Women screeching at their B level masters degree from Villanova or barely 7 digit bank account, pounding their chests how much they are a "queen" or a "bad boss bitch" like... how delusional are you?

pubgmisc · 2022-01-07T22:45:48+00:00

haha, men aren't intimidated, true. It's just shaming language

Salt_Mathematician24 · 2022-01-06T22:52:27+00:00

Maybe not for insecure virgin men on the internet that would take anything they could get and the less agency they have, the better. But in the real world and in terms of intimacy, it is a priority.

RegTextoffender · 2022-01-06T22:59:26+00:00

It is mine, I don't fuck fat, stupid, or ugly, in that order of importance.

NoMarriageNoKids · 2022-01-06T22:41:33+00:00

Personally, I would only have a relationship (not just sex) with a highly intelligent woman because anything less would bore and frustrate me. But, for men of average, or especially low, intelligence I'm sure a highly intelligent woman could very well intimidate them. She wouldn't respect him and would run circles around him. She'd get bored and frustrated with him just as I would.

That's my personal view. It depends on the intelligence and education of the man. If he has an 8th grade education and is a janitor at an elementary school then she wouldn't even get serious with him.

0ctoT1t · 2022-01-07T02:19:17+00:00

I think a lot of women get this wrong. Men aren’t intimidated by your intelligence, they’re turned off when you’re just bragging. Recognizing your accomplishments and bragging about it aren’t the same thing and so many workaholics don’t recognize it. They just equate it to “man mad at strong woman!”

On the other hand, a lot of men just don’t care. Of course it’ll be seen as a plus for some, but most don’t specifically seek it out when looking for a female partner, just like they don’t care if their partner is funny, only that they find them funny (a sense of humor)

Yukbghhjj · 2022-01-06T22:41:41+00:00

I legit just do not think most men even care about intelligence as long as she isn’t mentally handicapped and as long as her being kinda dumb isn’t compensated by being an shitty person. Intelligence is usually only seen in a negative light when the lady is a bitch about it.

Vtridolla · 2022-01-06T22:51:51+00:00

Most guys deem women “intelligent” as long as they have opinions and views similar to them.

I believe that’s a more accurate summarization. Most men especially in this sub want submissive, agreeable, and conservative values. If you challenge any of the above they deem you less intelligent.

Atleast this is what I’ve gathered over my almost year of studying the thoughts of incel/RP men.

livs4dietdrpepper · 2022-01-06T23:52:31+00:00

Ehhh I don’t know if it’s intimidation as much as an ego death but men don’t take it well when a woman knows more on a given topic. That’s really the origin of mansplaining. At least in my experience men are afraid to just be like “I actually don’t know much about that” but it probably ties into not wanting to look weak.

Intelligence on a guy is extremely low priority for me because most of them are so goddamn pretentious I can’t stand it. I’ll take a head empty no thoughts man over someone whose gonna talk down to me any day.

Selkie-Princess · 2022-01-07T02:47:42+00:00

My husband admitted to me that he straight up almost dumped me a year into us dating because he “couldn’t deny that I’m smarter than he is” (fwiw, I have always thought he was much smarter than me and never cared) and he was used to being the smartest guy in the room so it was messing with him.

By his account, he grappled with it for a while because he kept feeling paranoid that I looked down on him (I never did, and even he admits that I never even implied it) and he would feel incredibly insecure and defensive. But eventually he made the decision that he had to get over it which lead him to talk to me about it and of course that’s when I told him “oh I think you’re much smarter than me! I’m just a little more articulate”. That made sense to him and now we’re all good.

GridReXX · 2022-01-06T23:41:45+00:00

Eh. I can’t say I agree. Men tend to fall head over heels and then slowly feel absurdly self-emasculated over time with intelligent women. She could be the sweetest and playful and most compassionate. But if he feels like he’s not besting her or better than her he begins getting pouty and passive aggressive and doesn’t admit why and then finally explains he can’t put his finger on it but he just doesn’t feel good about it.

It’s why it’s literally always benefitted intelligent women to “dumb down and play up the damsel in distress” thing. It’s essentially catnip for men. They’ll claim it’s not but women know they get more results playing dumb and unable than being their normal able self. Men feel more secure with the damsel than the capable gal.

Jayne Mansfield is a good, albeit extreme example of this — MENSA member, 163 IQ, five language polyglot, etc. But she attracted more with the “damsel blonde” act. And downplayed the rest.

SupermarketFun21 · 2022-01-06T23:13:37+00:00

Most people want someone with a similar level of intelligence to their own. Being exceptionally smart is generally a great asset, but can be very limiting when it comes to dating options. I know very intelligent people of either gender with an incredibly sparse dating history because they find so few people they genuinely connect with.

I can see this manifesting into the classic "mEn jUSt wAnT dUmB bImBoS!!!" type bitterness among women who are very book smart but don't grasp social nuance. And yeah, as OP argues, that goes doubly for those who neglect their physical attractiveness.

TooBusySaltMining · 2022-01-07T01:33:34+00:00

It sounds like self flattery that a woman would say to herself to explain away why men generally avoid long term relationships with her.

It's not because I'm irritating, boring, or unattractive, it must be because I'm so smart.

Yeah that's the ticket!

Pastelitomaracucho · 2022-01-07T00:23:42+00:00

If intelligence comes with being confrontative, I am not interested.

KFC_Fleshlight · 2022-01-07T01:48:10+00:00

I think the vocal women who say men don’t like intelligent women just aren’t as intelligent as they think they are. I think it’s quite a common thing for people who use their perceived intelligence as a personality trait to be lacking in self awareness. And so anyone intelligent that values intelligence will see through the facade and dismiss them.

Zcuzz · 2022-01-07T03:31:24+00:00

I like intelligent women. I just find the condescending arrogant ones repulsive.

luliloo · 2022-01-07T04:59:50+00:00

Men usually like and appreciate my intelligence. There have been average guys intimidated by it in the past tho.

I used to argue for the sake of arguing though. Over time, I’ve learned to be opinionated without caring about changing people’s minds.

Delifier · 2022-01-07T07:17:02+00:00

Humans as a species has not been able to go around that women are the ones that get pregnant and need to care for the kid the first month to a year or so, so if you want children this is something you have to live with. Intelligence in this case might also come with education and a career chase that might not be compatible with raising children. Intelligence and a career will come with personal traits and a mindset that makes it hard to plan for a family.

An intelligent woman with a career would probbly have the same mindset and priorities as the guy, so its easy to not go for a relationship here if you as a guy want a family. IF you yourself is a career guy you make your own money anyway and can take the cost while your wife takes care of the of the baby the first needed time.

stayconnecteddd · 2022-01-07T09:31:59+00:00

Imagine trying to speak for an entire gender lmao. This topic is so subjective, objectifying it is beyond pointless.

miminothing · 2022-01-07T10:02:14+00:00

The opinions on this sub are so cartoonishly oversimplified… can we just accept that there’s variety in the human experience?

I’ve only dated women who are smarter than me, and wouldn’t have it any other way. Some men would prefer someone more subservient, and that’s fine too if they’re not dicks about it.

fwoketrash · 2022-01-07T11:59:09+00:00

It's usually the stupidest women who scream about how "men are intimated by me because I'm smart". Smart women, like smart men, generally aren't rubbing their "intelligence" in everyone's face at every opportunity.

Senior-South2432 · 2022-01-07T12:23:24+00:00

They just don't want us. What does it matter if they dislike, are neutral or intimidated by us.

kyjolski · 2022-01-07T14:46:06+00:00

Intelligence is the number one factor to me when considering LTR. Intelligence and personality can make a woman in my eyes go from 'meh' to 'damn she hot AF'.

Intelligent people are just fun to hang around long term - they can engage in meaningful discourse, have a wide perspective, aren't judgemental, are curious, think critically. They are also usually better in bed.

That being said, there are far too many people who think they are intelligent when in reality they are anything but.

Avais_Ungod · 2022-01-07T16:31:36+00:00

Andrea Dworkin talked about the Madonna/whore complex in men. Certain men want both, yet they contradict one another through male socialization. It's black-and-white thinking, typically within religious sects. Woman on a pedestal, then the sex slave. Most men growing up through religious and conservative doctrine just can't seem to fathom a woman could ever be both, have both, neither, or more. So they marry "the virgin", impregnate her, then seek "whores" to carry out that otherworld fantasies they don't disclose. But it's also along the lines of them wanting their cake and eating it, too.

The countless times we meet men who claim to want an intelligent woman, just to berrate her every opinion, go after the "cheerleader" type, then complain of her being too stupid, yet be completely bamboozled if they ever meet a beautiful woman who is also intelligent. It's a complex I just don't have time for. Personally, I don't deal with this with men of class..it's PRIVILEGE they don't like being called out on. Measures of intelligence aren't in competition. We learn from one another. It's the less educated, chest-beating type that start comparing brains, simply in an attempt to establish dominance and no, they don't like women who call them out on their bullshit or are seen as "opinionated".

TerracottaButthole · 2022-01-07T16:35:19+00:00

I think men and women both confuse intelligence with overly aggressive, Type A personalities. I've known many people to be like this- so overly confident in their "intelligence" and abilities that they refute everything else and oftentimes exhibit aggressive or demeaning behavior to drive home the point that they are more "intelligent," even though they are absolutely fucking wrong.

So, to me, it isn't that men are intimidated by intelligent women, but instead they don't want to deal with the annoyance of having a partner that always has to be right no matter the reality of the situation. Again, I think this is true for both males and females. Though, I know it is more often expressed as men being intimidated by intelligent women.

Brilliant-Hornet1916 · 2022-01-07T16:37:11+00:00

This is another chicken vs egg scenario. Women's preferences in mates generally comes first and men are simply reacting to that.

Men know women generally don't want men significantly less intelligent than them. So of course a lot of them feel inadequate around women who are intelligent as they know there's a higher chance of rejection, higher chance of being judged negatively, higher chance of leaving a relationship to upgrade etc. So why would men go chasing after very intelligent women?

Same thing with height and money. Are men not physically attracted to women who are taller than average and have money? Of course they are. But they know women mock men who are short and have less money than them - "I don't want no scrub" - so men obviously prefer women who are less likely to treat them like a laughing stock.

Khanluka · 2022-01-07T23:15:17+00:00

Just a random thoughts here but.

I personal think a smart and competent man that has his shit together can be a big turn on for a lot of woman.

Is then not a smart thing to do when your a guy of lesser intellect to go for someone of a lesser intellect then you? So its easier to turn her own?

Also why do smart woman even want to date a guy that has less intellect then them?

I come from a major university town and when i match with woman with a high degree. When they learn my degree winch is far lower then theirs general unmatch me right away.

sfalgo · 2022-01-07T23:17:59+00:00

imho, it’s a secondary effect. Men are not intimidated per se. Rather, they (correctly) perceive that they don’t have much of a chance with more intelligent/educated women due to female hypergamy.

loverofrain777 · 2022-01-08T01:05:34+00:00

This is valid.

LittyKitsune · 2022-01-06T23:22:49+00:00

Nah it definitely happens. When a guy is a. attracted to you and b. suspects that you are either more intelligent than him, or might think you are more intelligent than him, it is unfortunately common for them to try to "put you in your place," so to speak. So he can keep you while also not feeling inferior to you.

This is the kind of guy who tries to neg you over being a college graduate, or is super interested in X topic until it turns out that you know more about it than he does. Then it's boring and not such a good topic anyway.

flapperfemmefatale · 2022-01-06T23:00:09+00:00

Eh, I've seen guys express that they wouldn't date a woman who has gone further in her education than they have.

Mys_Atm · 2022-01-07T02:14:07+00:00

This seems to be indeed one of the myths of some "feminist" narrative...

Usually smart and successful people are appreciated when they put their intelligence and success at the service of others (their partners, families etc)... and they are less appreciated or even hated when they arrogantly want to put forward their so-called intelligence and educational or professional success to claim or prove a "special higher status"... and it goes both ways for men and women

lulll · 2022-01-06T22:59:27+00:00

intelligent women are almost always geeky nerds, the rare few who are good looking+intelligent means she's most likely not interested in you, so who cares

princelydeeds · 2022-01-07T02:12:59+00:00

Imagine growing up people told you that all you have to do is go to school, get a good education, get a good job in your career field and you will be a success in life.

Young women ride the cock carousel, focus on jobs, focus on school, dedicate themselves to obtaining things and are focused on things other than starting families. When a woman decides she is ready to procreate, date or otherwise settle down, she comes face to face with reality.

The reality is that men don't care about her degrees.

Men don't care about her money...

Men don't care about all the "book learning" she thinks she has mastered.

She looks in the mirror, her education and intelligence can't save her from reality....

Her feminist studies, school indoctrination, and world view will often make her repulsive to men. She is no longer at the peak of her SMV and most men with options aren't going to put up with her mouth, opinions and general disagreeableness.

As she comes into her peak Karen, she can't admit to herself that she is simply insufferable, so she blames everyone else for not being able to "handle her", being intimidated by her (money, looks, intelligence, education, ALPHA-femaleness....), and/or simply being jealous of her.

In her heart she knows the truth, but like most women, she prefers to lie to herself than accept the truth....

Ryanmp99 · 2022-01-07T00:43:18+00:00

I think people should date within their own intelligence tier, much like financial standing / social class.

LiaraLynx · 2022-01-07T01:51:00+00:00

Men want a feminine woman, if she is smart and hard working on top of that then it’s a bonus for men. The problem is that the smart career driven women tend to think that these traits can overlook their lack of femininity when it comes to dating, unfortunately it can’t and they end up lashing out at men.

RabbitNRaccoon · 2022-01-07T00:23:34+00:00

Yall are too black and white in your thinking. It's not either or. It's both.

Some men are intimidated by it. Some men are not.

Why does everything always have to be "all". Or even most?

There are people who do. And people who don't.

omegajelly200 · 2022-01-07T03:05:50+00:00

Third, as far as i can tell, this and similar phrases are gaslighting techniques commonly used by some women who focused solely on their studies while neglected other traits that are generally more important to us, hence are being rejected by men or unable to get commitment.

Agree, the women like in this example are those who followed the path of defeatism as in the other thread in the sub - instead of fixing the problems that lead to them being dateless, they chose to follow their career and ignore their problems, believing that their problems would magically solve themselves as they get older, and get even less desirable.

They want a man to be attracted to them for their intelligence, fair enough, but while tolerating blatant flaws? I am not talking about a girl being shy. Or a girl being plain looking. I'm talking about a girl being outright ugly, bitchy, with a Karen personality, and with mental disorders that never really got addressed.

And then there is the big question that needs to be addressed: what does she do in the meanwhile while she is single? Drowning herself in beer and wine? Eating cake? Become an antisocial career drone? Make dumb tiktok videos bitching about men? Or does she focus on making friends (not work acquaintances, FRIENDS), eating healthy, exercising, mediating, and taking part in charity drives? On other words, does she deal with her singlehood positively?

CptKillsteal · 2022-01-07T05:33:04+00:00

Women who believe men are intimidated by intelligent women are clearly not intelligent.

AmbitiousHornet · 2022-01-07T05:44:06+00:00

Concur. To some extent, I find intelligence in a woman as an attractant but it does not outweigh other factors and hence is not a priority in selection.

Hecatombola · 2022-01-07T09:33:31+00:00

Mens feel threatened by intelligent person, man or woman. They have a very hard time to accept anyone is smarter than them.

Willow-girl · 2022-01-07T02:15:51+00:00

Some men are though. I started going to college while I was married to my second husband. He was a real PITA about it, not supportive at all although my goal was to get a good job that would made us financially secure. I was also working a full-time AND a part-time job while taking classes, so he couldn't complain that I wasn't pulling my weight. Eventually I dropped out and just pursued a career as a reporter and editor, which I was able to do successfully without a degree.

Years later when we split up, I asked him why he had given me so much grief about going to school. I told him it would have meant so much to me to have his backing, and how much I had loved school and really wanted to finish. He said he was afraid that if I graduated and got a professional degree, I'd hang around with other professionals and he wouldn't be enough for me. He was afraid I'd leave him behind, so he sabotaged my efforts to improve myself. I didn't end up graduating but left him behind anyway.

cabbageprimate · 2022-01-07T04:41:41+00:00

I'm a guy and I laughed so hard reading this. I'm sorry. Intelligence is tied with attractiveness, niceness, and compatibility as the #1 thing I want in a woman. It's such a turnoff when a woman is less intelligent than me. I know how conceited that sounds.

Shredddz · 2022-01-06T22:43:39+00:00

these "intelligent" women are just entitled career women rationalizing away their undesirability. these women are not smart, the are just entitled and insufferable. If they were actually smart, they would realize and not say this crap.

either way, we dont want to "handle", we wont to relax. Women are so clueless about anything that intimidation is a laughable statement.

per definition a women can not be intimidating beyond looks. verbally, they are all like children and its really amusing how they try to offend and fake having balls and try to sound smart, then get put in place easily and start offending and blaming because they feel dumb.

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razormachine · 2022-01-07T00:11:16+00:00

Intelligent woman is a + in my book.

I'm a complete simp for intelligent women with a good sense of humor.

k995 · 2022-01-07T00:20:58+00:00

Anyone talking about what "men" want (or women for that matter) is wrong. Yes some men dont want to have anything to do with intelligent women, while others dont want anything else.

TheEndTrend · 2022-01-07T02:44:49+00:00

"you (men) don't want an intelligent woman because you are just intimidated, you can't handle her"

Read, "she's an insufferable bitch." Gee, wonder why men don't just LOVE her?!

TC19962022 · 2022-01-07T02:58:49+00:00

I agree; I am not intimated by intelligent women. I am attracted to and turned own by them. I'd prefer it if my woman was smarter than me. But to Challenge your view, I also prefer it pretty much more than anything else other than kidness / basic morality. (Like a smart douchebag is not attractive).

I don't know about all Men; but the Men I do know seem more indifferent towards intelligence.

SlimLovin · 2022-01-07T02:59:17+00:00

The existence of this post is proof that’s not true.

VanVahlen · 2022-01-07T03:11:14+00:00

Eh I just want an automaton I can switch off when I dont want to interact.

ArmDiscombobulated29 · 2022-01-07T03:11:56+00:00

I got too much other shit to think about than intelligent women good for them

billsull_02842 · 2022-01-07T04:55:35+00:00

intelligent women may be full of subterfuge.

SteveSan82 · 2022-01-07T08:31:38+00:00

Intelligent women is code for annoying and insecure

M_LaSalle · 2022-01-07T08:38:52+00:00

It depends on how much time we're spending around each other when we aren't having sex. I don't like being around stupid people. If she's just a lay, then it doesn't matter how intelligent she is. If we're spending serious time together, if I'm looking at her as a potential partner, someone who's going to be the most important person in my life, then she needs to have something between her ears. If she's going to be the mother of my children, then frankly I don't want stupid kids, and I don't want my children being raised by a stupid person when I'm not around.

There are actual practical advantages in having an intelligent woman, And by the way, she reflects on me. When she is publicly on my arm, and we are in the world of coupledom, then I want her to reflect well on me. I want to be known as a man who could win this woman. This is not to say that I do not value her for her beauty, but at a practical level, if she's going to be part of my life, then she needs to be more than just a piece of ass.

If by intelligent you mean that she went through a diploma mill to get a worthless liberal arts degree, then that is a different matter. The education that most women get these days is more likely to result in their enstupidation. Intelligence in a woman is highly desirable. A headful of nonsense poured into her brain courtesy of the gender studies department is another matter.

Beginning_Proof_2160 · 2022-01-07T08:58:03+00:00

weak men who don't have anything going on in their lives are intimidated, however men that women are chasing definitely don't give a f about her career or her income because they already have all the things they need

NefariousnessStreet9 · 2022-01-07T10:05:28+00:00

Intelligent men usually want intelligent women

LillthOfBabylon · 2022-01-07T10:55:27+00:00

I have heard it many times "you (men) don't want an intelligent woman because you are just intimidated, you can't handle her" or "you (men) just want a less intelligent girl so you can control her" and sure enough, there are some men like that.

And alot of them are in this subreddit. It's also the main reason creepy dudes want women half their age and younger.

We do want intelligent women, we do enjoy meaningful, intellectual conversations and genuine humor,

As you already admitted in the first paragraph, not all men want that. Alot of them just want a "Yes Woman" to stroke his ego.

Second, this usually comes up when someone says, we generally do not prioritize intelligence over other traits usually associated with femininity (like compassion or aggreablness for instance)

And depending on the individual guy, that's bullshit. Most of the time, when I hear someone say they want someone agreeable, agreeableness is code for "Say yes to everything I want". Also, do you mean ACTUAL compassion? Or do you mean the "always coddle me and tell me nothing's my fault" variety of compassion?

But this doesn't mean that we want to be with a 20 yo fitness model who's IQ is only slightly higher then a hen's so she wont poo around the porch.

Except that seems to be the common result of men who forego prioritizing personality in order to hyper focus on looks. Again, this is highly common in this subreddit. Hence, why their idea of the "average female" seems to be a bimbo who constantly manipulates men to do her bidding.

Whether or not intelligence is prioritized depends on the individual.

nick1812216 · 2022-01-07T11:01:35+00:00

I’m just inntimidated by intellignet leopla!! Regardless of gender

Mrs_Drgree · 2022-01-07T11:06:28+00:00

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cast-away-ramadi06 · 2022-01-07T11:38:47+00:00

The word you're looking for is insufferable, not intimidating.

I've met many women smarter than me or better at lots of things and I've been humbled by the intelligence, capability, expertise, or experience of a few ... but I've never once been intimidated by a woman. Very few men are actually every going to be intimidated by a woman.

I think women trying to label men as intimidated is just an attempt by insufferable, unaware women to justify being insufferable.

343_peaches_and_tea · 2022-01-07T11:45:58+00:00

Something I saw recently that I thought was interesting.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=3m22s&v=DWMQcKqSa28&feature=youtu.be

Jordan Peterson talking about his wife.

I found it quite amusing because obviously as a big figure of the manosphere he still married a woman who he describes as having a more masculine temperament and clearly sharp intelligence.

Mrs_Drgree · 2022-01-07T11:51:26+00:00

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Det_Steve_Sloan · 2022-01-07T11:57:29+00:00

"Intelligent women" = angrily, and stupidly, repeating crude establishment propaganda.

badgersonice · 2022-01-07T12:23:01+00:00

I have heard it many times "you (men) don't want an intelligent woman because you are just intimidated, you can't handle her"

The only person who told me I struggled in dating because I’m “intimidating” was a male friend.

And maybe my mom and dad, because parent things.

g0juice · 2022-01-07T13:37:24+00:00

I would rather have a nice bod. If my ding doesn’t go up we are just friends.

Blackandeducated26 · 2022-01-07T13:38:28+00:00

Men don’t want a women they can control they want a women that will listen and respect them. This is just something women say that don’t want to be traditional and want their cake and yours too. They say men want “control.” and tbh men don’t want control but if they did is that a bad thing? Men should be the one in control of the relationship anyways because they are the one who decides if the relationship will go further or any titles to he established. Therefor he should maintain control and calmness of his relationship but it doesn’t work like that. He can have control over himself all he wants but his woman must listen and respect him.

And men DO. want intelligence so clearly that goes to show u that these are women who constantly try to push the traditional values out of the way. So dont Expect men to be traditional either Bc so many women are fighting it.

Your right about the rejected part in my opinion. I think there’s so many bitter women that self project their emotions on to men simply due to the fact that they know they cannot KEEP a man. There’s many men that will have sex with you but he won’t stay there. And that’s the problem in our time. It was all good and dandy when men were being ignorant or stupid not realizing that they’re being used. Women have leveraged themselves sadly by platforms like only fans selling prostitution. Now they’re mad that the big bad men found a way to gain leverage. Another example of how they love it when it benefits them as soon as that stops and benefits anybody else there’s a problem.

The dating scene needed to be balanced out anyways. Girls are put on a pedestal tor no reason other than looks and men have to earn that. Like I said more men are realizing their value and are not willing to accept someone who isn’t committed to them and respecting their boundaries.

There is not one man I know that’s intimidated by women because their smart. That’s great for them if you ladies are so intelligent then why do you choose low paying careers and blame men for gatekeeping. I swear every time you talk to a women it’s something negative about the big bad men and how they are being oppressed. Stop the cap already men are starting to catch on!!!

Coolio_Street_Racer · 2022-01-07T14:52:01+00:00

No man will admit it because it makes him feel insecure. Although a man 100% does not like his women to be more intelligent than him. It hinders his ability to take the lead.

manfrom-nantucket · 2022-01-07T15:25:06+00:00

Men are intimidated by intelligent women

No, I'd say I like intelligent women provided you know how to handle your intelligence without the need to show off about it. I get that you are excited about it, but please, subtlety is a good thing. Would you like a guy who finds a reason to introduce his accolades at every turn? No? Well same here.

Men don't want to be challenged

Men are competitive by nature and sure we have no problem with a challenge. That being said, do you think someone wants to be competitive in every fucking facet of their lives? Competitive at work and then come home and hey let the games begin, women don't want to live like that why then would you think men want this? Furthermore, what exactly is the upside in relationship based on competitiveness? Is the requirement here that the guys need to continue to compete for you to remain with him?

Daffneigh · 2022-01-07T18:17:32+00:00

I think the problem for intelligent women is bothering with men who aren’t their intellectual match.

If my lack of “agreeable” qualities got in my way (possible! Oh no) so be it. Intelligent women should stop worrying about all the me who don’t want to date them — intelligent women should know better than to look for any man, qua man, to support her.

There’s a reason women with advanced degrees marry men with advanced degrees, almost without exception. As a woman with a PhD I don’t know any of my female friends with a PhD whose husband does not have a PhD, MD, or JD. my male best friend only has a BA and his wife is an MD but he is absolutely one of the smartest dudes I’ve met.

My female friends who are single, though? Not the gals with PhDs.

creekcrystall · 2022-01-08T02:27:13+00:00

The only men intimidated by intelligent women are those with malicious intents.

Admirable-Set9743 · 2022-01-08T07:14:02+00:00

There's two thing going on here. First of all "smart" is frequently code for "disagreeable and up to date on their leftwing media programming" in which case it should be obvious why men avoid those types.

Secondly, men rightly tread cautiously around romancing women who are smarter, or taller, or much better looking than them etc. because they know they can get absolutely whalloped socailly with zero recourse. Courting is inherently always at least a minor social violation. It gives the woman the right to talk about, judge, and defame you. If she has an objective leg up in some way then her return attack can be devastating. Women are protected from social attacks by men with the bailey of their unique value. Even if the guy has objective advantages she's a member of the class that is to be protected, and in fact this even still applies in mutual combat, making the mans position even more precarious.

TThrowaway144 · 2022-01-06T23:42:18+00:00

They do the same thing to men who date younger (than them) women. “You only date young women because you couldn’t get an old one” 🤡🤡🤡

Its just an attempt at shaming men into dating them. Just laugh in their face and enjoy your life

lestratege · 2022-01-07T00:09:20+00:00

Women say intimidate when they blame a man for not performing what women think he should perform, ie, pay. That's what intimidate means.

baked_zoomer · 2022-01-07T01:42:44+00:00

Intelligent woman = upper class woman

Upper class people can be hard to please especially if you weren't born into that class.

Middle class men may find it easier to please a woman in his own class.

Title	Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities are
Author	EstablishmentKooky50
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Date	January 6, 2022 10:34 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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