Men get their nice guy ideas from high school movies and the anime harem genre.

John_Oakman · 2021-06-08T13:21:49+00:00

I don't know about others but I get my ideas from what women wants from men only from trusted sources such as FDS...

it's still not working but I must be patient.

Ihateregistering6 · 2021-06-08T17:43:24+00:00

Women saying ”I want a nice guy” or ”I want a good man” IS NOT CODE FOR ”I’ll fuck any guy who is nice to me. Open a door for me and I’ll open my legs!”

No guy believes this, and this is the fundamental thing a lot of women get wrong when they do the old "nice guys think they're entitled to sex just for being nice!".

That's not at all what they're saying. They're not saying "I'm a nice guy, therefore women should fuck me", they're saying "I am a nicer/more good guy than that guy over there who is an asshole, alcoholic, serial abuser, criminal, douchebag, etc., and since women say "I want a nice guy/good man and not a douchebag/abuser/asshole", I should be more sexually successful than him. But I'm not".

Like, imagine if every guy you've ever met growing up told you that men are most attracted to blonde women, and being blonde is the BEST thing you can do to attract a man. But then you quickly notice that men rarely ever actually seem to date blonde women; they only date brunettes and redheads. And when you finally say "WTF? Why are y'all telling me you love blondes so much but then have no interest in them?", they tell you to shut up and stop acting entitled to their attention, and the fact that you're even asking that question means you're not REALLY blonde.

And yes, movies do exacerbate some of this, because one of the very common themes in movies is that in the end the good guys win and the world is fair and just. So, in movies, the decent guy gets the girl he's in love with and she dumps her asshole jock boyfriend. But nearly anyone over the age of 18 recognizes that movies aren't real life. And arguably, that's a major theme of TRP: life isn't fair, and neither is dating. So stop complaining about what is fair and what isn't and focus on what actually works.

Appropriate-Ad2175 · 2021-06-08T14:13:31+00:00

I have absolutely never in my entire life met a man who thinks he is owed sex for basic displays of courtesy.

I'm inclined to believe this is largely a strawman meant to demonize a certain demographic of men.

High-school romance movies? I don't remember a single male friend in high-school consuming that content. And harem anime? How many teenage boy watch that stuff? All the guys (and the girls too) who were into anime and manga watched/read shounen (action stuff).

2021-06-08T16:48:30+00:00

Women saying ”I want a nice guy” or ”I want a good man” IS NOT CODE FOR ”I’ll fuck any guy who is nice to me. Open a door for me and I’ll open my legs!”

No, it's code for "I want a high-value man who's above me socially and economically to help me elevate my own status and station in life and who will earn enough that I can take my desired hiatus away from my career for the tender years. Here is a rendering of what he must look like."

TenderHeartToxicFart · 2021-06-08T12:17:46+00:00

They just observe who gets attention from girls in high school. Typically the overly competitive, rude and demeaning guys get plenty of attention, while the guys who are easy to get along with are invisible.

That was atleast my experience in high school.

Barely-moral · 2021-06-08T15:31:26+00:00

their ideas of how women and dating ”should” work seems to come from entertainment created by men intended to be consumed by young men and boys.

Or the ideas about how dating "should" work come from a basic sense that what one considers moral should be rewarded with good results by life, society and other people. In the same way what one considers immoral should be punished with lesser results. That punishment also coming from life, society and other people.

It is not that hard. If you have a moral code, then chances are you believe that people that follow that moral code should get better results than people that don't follow it. That includes dating.

Platinirism · 2021-06-08T15:01:07+00:00

I got mine from my mum who said to be nice to girls and buy her flowers.

So...

Smoogs2 · 2021-06-08T12:06:29+00:00

Are you just retroactively discussing issues? Nobody has given those movies any real thought since the 90s. Men’s nice guy ideas now come from a mix of social media and real life.

TheJim66 · 2021-06-08T12:04:08+00:00

Of course not. They get their ideas from what women say. They hear them whine about all the assholes they are dating and about how they just want a nice guy and like the naive idiots they are, don't notice the dissonance in that.

I don't know why women here keep hamstering this. Women irl and even on the internet (see tik tok) admit that they like assholes. Never mind all the studies showing the same thing. Its almost tiring.

TheBookOfSeil · 2021-06-08T14:24:24+00:00

Another brain-dead take.

If anything, men get their "nice guy ideas" from women and their mothers telling men to "be nice to girls and "girls like nice guys."

This starts very young, too, not at high school or college age.

_lemazaki · 2021-06-08T12:02:07+00:00

I think they watch tv shows, women shows, interviews, women posting on social media and etc... They make their strategy based on what women say.

Megabyte7637 · 2021-06-08T11:51:52+00:00

lol nobody takes those movies seriously anymore. if anything its more common in anime, but even there its very split because female oriented anime (shoujo ) actually pretty accurately portrays what I have found most women want irl, whilst its the anime that's made for guys shows a loser getting 5 10/10 girls fawning over him, which seems rather pointless because its just giving guys unrealistic expectations and telling girls what girls already know.

QuenchlessGato · 2021-06-08T11:52:13+00:00

Harem is a very niche genre of anime. On top of that, men watch this as a cope for their fantasy, they don't use it as a basis for real-world interactions.

wordsandmagic · 2021-06-08T16:25:27+00:00

BAHAHAHAH most adult men are not watching anime

LillthOfBabylon · 2021-06-08T17:04:51+00:00

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Christian_Kong · 2021-06-08T17:14:20+00:00

A fresh take on the old "guys get lied to by the media."

No but it usually comes from girl complaining about dating "assholes", girl dating blatant assholes and crying over relationship woes or guy perceiving guys girl is dating to be "assholes." As a result of this they treat said girl nearly as well as they would if they were dating.

I just noticed this pattern of men claiming women lied to them, but they can't prove that women said what they think women said.

No one records every conversation they have. What proof are you looking for here?

And if the goal is a relationship, and not sex, then the guy wouldn't be laser focused on fuckboys. He’d pay more attention to good men in relationships.

I don't get this. Are you saying that "nice guys" should focus their energy on trying to date women already in happy relationships? Are you saying that the "nice guys" should put their effort into trying to be like men in good relationships? They probably are, based on the outward appearance.

Old-Ad-8260 · 2021-06-08T11:43:39+00:00

No one’s watched a movie like that since like 1985 sister, give it a rest.

n8ivco1 · 2021-06-08T14:46:05+00:00

Do you honestly believe that only men write movies like that? You might want to slide over to the Hallmark channel and watch some credits once in a while. These movies especially the secret princess trope ones like The Princes Diaries are written for and primarily consumed by women; so if you don't want to watch or don't like them that's ok.Blaming men for the whole of the entertainment industry pandering to women is hyperbolic and wrong. Maybe a healthy dose of Mean Girls ( written by Tina Fey) is needed for you to cleanse the palate.

Sigma1979 · 2021-06-08T15:09:05+00:00

Actually, i got my 'nice guy' idea from my father who wrote my mother love letters in college (they went to the same high school, but different colleges). It wasn't until after college that i realized that his generation (where women were worth pursuing) was different than my generation (where modern women ruined romance).

aquamanouttawater · 2021-06-08T15:27:16+00:00

Men get their nice guy ideas from hearing girls complain about assholes so they try being the exact opposite. Its not until you realize all those guys get all the attention that you realize its all virtue signaling to cling to their innocent naive norm.

ToughAnswers · 2021-06-08T13:01:37+00:00

Just stop being nice fuck

Jealous that drug dealers get laid

Start slangin, pussy

asdf333aza · 2021-06-08T18:05:39+00:00

More likely comes from the entirety of society telling me to bend over backwards and cater to women, while the opposite is being told to women.

Bigbigsby · 2021-06-08T12:30:20+00:00

Yo I swear to god you’re gonna think I’m an *ncel but honestly a lot of the elements found in certain rom com animes hold true in real life. I just woke up and I don’t have time to research specific examples but I can give a general breakdown of the formula :

Usually these animes feature a high school male protagonist who is on the lower end of the social hierarchy. In these shows, the male protagonist usually has mastered some quirky skillset that uses to aid various female characters (competence is attractive and it build confidence), plus there’s always a moment in these shows where the male protagonist has to stand on his values and the female characters see this (self assurance, confidence, masculine frame), and there’s other stuff but I’m tired as hell and can’t think.

In NO WAY am I trying to say that these rom com anime’s are accurate or that the anime industry in general doesn’t come with its own set of problems. I am saying however, that the basic principles of attraction are typically present in these harem anime’s (mastery of a skill + self assuredness/confidence + moral compass)

EdwardCircumcizehand · 2021-06-08T15:28:34+00:00

Probably less than 10% of guys have watched harem animes and romcoms like you state

Heavenonearth12 · 2021-06-08T14:08:41+00:00

Lol what ? Noooooo. Bruh, we are nice because we have no clue and think that will get the girl we want lol

Boplic · 2021-06-08T12:25:16+00:00

I think you’re placing too much value on things that most people see as fantasy by looking into a small group of men that make the most noise. The real issue is not that a few men that are awful socially see these harem animes and believe they are due women for being kind, it’s that a majority of men see porn and unable to separate that fantasy from reality. The actual issues with relationships these days as well as the oversexualization of women both stem from an extreme rise in porn viewing, not the same stories being retold from decades ago. And this is because even the very socially adept men are able to find out about relationships through people they know, but it’s impossible to find out about sex without either experiencing it or watching porn. The heavy emphasis that gets placed on it in society leans even harder on those that want it but haven’t gotten it yet, which means they circle back to porn and watch more videos of men doing mindless tasks and being rewarded with sex.

2021-06-08T14:20:43+00:00

I can confirm as a guy who has struggled with attracting women that I was brought up on a lot of these movies and it definitely didn’t set me up well for the things women seem to truly want. Yea they want “nice” guys but it’s hardly the most important thing.

Aubrey_D_Graham · 2021-06-08T15:09:07+00:00

We blaming anime too? That's deflection and projection. Men are taught by their mothers first, society and culture second. They change when they see reality does not align with the nice guy narrative.

bigboymanny · 2021-06-08T19:32:59+00:00

I mean just being nice doesnt really get you laid or friends really. Niceness on its own is kinda bland, you need to be interesting as well. For hookups niceness doesnt really do shit, dont be horrible, but charisma or attraiveness will get you infinitely more hookups than just being nice.

801735 · 2021-06-08T12:23:37+00:00

Men get their nice guy ideas from high school movies and the anime harem genre.

And moms (especially the evil moms who are single),
and sisters in general (blood-related as well as s~~ister~~pinsterhood),
and soyciety in general,
and vagazines,
and sexist female teachers who do their best to castrate males into girls,
and from observing girls not being punished for transgression while they themselves are being punished just for feeding the perpetrator's (there are many of those) psychologically sadistic hunger,
and from not being taught to differentiate between just females and women from an early age onwards,
and from being punished for defending themselves against psychopaths (mostly females, but it's called "manipulation", because "girls will be girls" I guess),
and from cucks and beta limpwrists,
and delusional posts all over the web,
and MSM,
and marketing,

...

The list is longer, much much longer, but you get the idea.

The harem is more accurate as being a Nice Guy wish fulfillment.

No. The harem is just a guy fucking a bunch of female losers who failed to lock down a quality guy, resulting in most cases in the femfails aging out of the cock carousel they partake in when they should be working like crazy on not becoming, but being ever more perfectlyer competent at supporting the team they decided to join.

The male protagonist is boring, bland, Socially inept, and yet a bunch of women are obsessed with him because he’s super nice to them.

Nah, the male protagonist just is, the bunch of femfails otoh, failed to woman up and are passive at best, detrimental by default and maliciously causing harm and destruction at worst (and more and more common, judging by farticles that are popping up all over the web lately, since OLD started +- a few years). Basically the femfails are still incompetent at accepting they're passe and cannot contain the well known and widely accepted resulting bitterness, corrosiveness even, known and called out as "Quit being such a whiny little bitch and woman the fuck up or AND fuck off already to where you hauled your fat useless infertile ass from, Karen".

And if the goal is a relationship, and not sex

So you're explaining this to fat, disgusted by how they themselves look, femfails? Because real women, who didn't become fat and ugly with bitterness, stuffing their mouths with ice cream instead of working out and remaining fit and sexy, they LOVE sex, it EMPOWERS them.

He’d pay more attention to good men in relationships.

We do, they get fucked hard by divorce. We have seen, see and will continue to see the results of the few marriages idiots will manage to lure morons into (at an alarmingly, yet satisfiyingly diminishing rate).

Marriage is dead. LTRs are next. Because femfails aren't good enough for something as simple as thriving marriage. Can't cook - doesn't know how to keep his belly full, and is frigid by own cause and mental state - doesn't know how to keep his balls empty. Femfails. They(You?)'re the majority, have nothing worth consideration to offer.

Problem?

Slyfer_Seven · 2021-06-08T14:15:26+00:00

You, in your own OP, point to where most guys get their bad advice from, which isn't movies or something as niche as fucking anime, but their peers.

You changed your own view, congratulations

Gouda_Gouda_gumdrops · 2021-06-08T14:45:43+00:00

I very much agree with this. Even if we are conscious of how these tropes are totally b******* or fake, growing up on them still creates the subconscious thinking that I have an eye, as a woman, have been susceptible to. I've had to undo a lot of my thoughts of what a partner should be like and deciding for myself what works and doesn't work for me. I think a lot of people in general would rather blame the other person than take responsibility for themselves and improve themselves to the point where somebody would actually want to date them.

I used to be like this and then I realized that no one of quality would want to be in a relationship with me unless I was actually bringing something to the table, so I had to figure out what that something was. Turns out you have to have a dynamic and interesting personality for people to want to date you.

DiscussionReader · 2021-06-08T14:29:52+00:00

You are contradicting yourself which, again, shows that the misunderstanding is caused promarily by what women say they want.

You say women don't have casual sex with nice and kind guys but do want them in a relationship, yet you talk about a cheerleaderr "dating" the hot quarterback and not the nice guys which implies that women having casual sex and forming relationships with less nice and kind guys who are hot is also to be expected.

I'm confused by what you say women want, men are confused by what women say they want.

IOportA · 2021-06-08T14:35:54+00:00

Men get nice guy ideas when they take advice from women.

OrwellianHell · 2021-06-08T16:14:05+00:00

Love is a farce. Women want money, security, and prestige. All talk about anything else amounts to nothing more than moving air.

mindsanitizer · 2021-06-08T12:21:14+00:00

"Look at what he does, not what he says" could not be more true when reading some of the comments attemping to prove this false.

Many RP men repeatedly bang on about "young women need to go for NicE GuYs and not cling onto their cock carousel!"

Their ideas are ripped straight out of an 80s romantic high school drama.

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mydikishomofobik · 2021-06-08T13:30:08+00:00

I never watched HS movies and don't know what the anime harem genre is. I think men partly get the idea that woman want nice guys from projection ('I want a nice girl who is nice to me, so therefore girls must like nice guys'). But they also get it from what women say themselves- i.e. 'I want a nice guy', 'just be nice', and complaining about being treated badly by their bfs or exes.

SaBahRub · 2021-06-08T14:07:10+00:00

No, most guys blame these things because it’s easy. Just like the nice guy strategy.

Hiding behind these examples is weak. They got caught, and they don’t like it

SupremePlayer · 2021-06-08T14:10:04+00:00

I can say that gen z looks up to 2d women and think real would be like this and then they idolise women then something happens then they turn bitter and demonize em. In short term they put women on pedestal

GearMonx · 2021-06-08T14:26:01+00:00

I guarantee that you can’t even name 5 animes.

Ok-Gas9969 · 2021-06-08T14:29:20+00:00

Fuckboys are nice too.

LotBuilder · 2021-06-08T14:48:21+00:00

Nice guys create covert contracts. Covert contracts occur when you have a plan in your head, some sort of trade, but it is never explicitly stated, so when it comes time for “payment” and it falls through, you feel cheated, but the girl is oblivious. She doesn’t know the trade you made in your head for your “nice” behavior. Reading the book No more Mr. Niceguy should be mandatory for young men in high school. This is not some women bashing stuff, this is a self inflicted wound we bring upon ourselves.

Condom-Ad-Don-Draper · 2021-06-08T14:54:26+00:00

Societal pressure to conform to gender norms is definitely as prevalent as it is for women. Except the consequences can be more extreme.

gammaJinx · 2021-06-08T15:32:36+00:00

The reality is getting women is very simple in concept. You gotta have money, a good body, and game. Now getting all those things is a different story. It takes a lot of time and resources but at the end of the day it's worth it. If you not getting girls now. Invest in yourself so you will eventually be able to

shadycrusade · 2021-06-08T15:42:09+00:00

Not where I get my ideas

JediGuitarist · 2021-06-08T17:45:01+00:00

I seemed to take the exact opposite message away from most of the movies I saw. The girl was always with the attractive guy. I didn't look like the attractive guy, and I never got dates, so I came to the conclusion that girls liked attractive guys and I wasn't attractive. If I ever said this in front of my female friends they'd go absolutely apeshit trying to convince me that neither one was true. So I don't think "media" lied to me but somebody sure did.

Mondholm · 2021-06-08T18:04:36+00:00

IIg nicht fzw ich hab z die o

Cobra_x30 · 2021-06-08T18:08:51+00:00

Nice guys have been around a lot longer than harem anime.

I think this idea that nice guys win in the end is propogated by blue pill beta males, and blue pill feminist women who seem to absolutely dominate entertainment, and education. I mean how can you just write off the fact that virtually every public school teacher in the nation is a hardline blue piller openly pushing their ideas onto impressionable students???

Naus1987 · 2021-06-08T18:13:00+00:00

There’s also a hint of that in religion “if I do good things — I’ll get rewarded”

I knew a guy who got incredibly bitter in his early 20’s, because he had been a good Christian boy, and god didn’t reward him with a wife.

I spent way too many hours trying to convince him that religion (and women) don’t work that way, lol.

He eventually did get married in his late 20’s. They both deserve each other is all I can say.

HcetIsTechBackwards · 2021-06-08T18:25:05+00:00

Otome visual novels are extremely popular in the USA, do they give women unrealistic views of men?

Most otome protagonists are carbon copies of each other, often weak-willed women with no brain cells or agency who have several extremely handsome men courting them, usually aggressively.

A lot of harem protagonists are oblivious, but kind men who attract several women, but don't react to their advances or play dumb.

Fiction is fiction in the end, if men or women get unrealistic views of others from it, that's their problem. I enjoy this media, but to say my tastes are warped by it is wrong. I'd say watching how women (and humans) in general act made me dislike the majority of them.

Not sure why I bothered responding, it's a Lilith post. *shrug*

ohheyhi99 · 2021-06-08T19:10:55+00:00

It’s the movies and social media

2021-06-08T20:59:46+00:00

Yeah and if you aren't hot you will get blackpilled out of it.

StunningEstates · 2021-06-08T23:36:57+00:00

Nah the hot girl, if she even ever gets with the protagonist, is always with the douchebag first. And at least half of harem protagonists act like dicks depending on which girl they’re around.

If we got it from any media, we got it from oldschool Disney

awealthypauper · 2021-06-09T01:49:57+00:00

Doubtful. Men get nice guy ideas when they lack the courage or ambition to become the person that women are attracted to.

Ohyarlysmiles · 2021-06-09T04:04:55+00:00

Using the definition you're using of 'nice' as applying to the protagonists in those movies, being nice over time does get men sex. It literally makes men more physically attractive to women. This has been repeatedly shown in peer-reviewed literature. The movies take great care to show the protagonist's positive qualities that, if the loser had them in real life, would actually cause a woman to grow more attracted to a man over time. It's some degree of funny, smart, caring --- WILLING TO BE HIMSELF even if it means losing her.

The problem is that culture is shifting slowly toward people not taking time to get to know one another for awhile before having sex. Now, there are many women who expect there to be an instant 'spark' with someone. Because an instant 'spark' only can really happen based on superficial qualities, superficial qualities are beginning to rule the modern dating roost.

And the entire frame of modern dating culture that encourages a ton of self-improvement for men while praising women for just being who they are, no improvement necessary, is very toxic and unhealthy.

This graph shows how ridiculous the 'just improve yourself bro' stance is:

https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-guys-unless-you-are-really-hot-you-are-probably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a

A 70th percentile male in attractiveness will only match with around 20th percentile females and below.

That is 1.344 SD of a difference in attractiveness setting a ceiling on a male's likely prospects in that arena.

AKA a man in the 91st percentile of attractiveness is maxing out around the 50th percentile.

^ this is insane.

zapstr · 2021-06-09T04:22:14+00:00

This speaks to the difference between the female gaze, and what men think the female gaze is. There's a trope, men written by women, Mr. Darcy (Jane Austen) type which I think perfectly personifies the female gaze. Hot, rich, stoic yet charismatic and respected guy falls hopelessly in love with a girl, and continues to pursue her (respectfully) after being rejected once-- what women think the ideal man is.

Then, there's the trope of what men think women think the ideal man is. Think Marvel, Tarantino, cliche highschool movies where the nerd gets the girl as kind of a reward for overcoming a challenge. Men internalize these much more than the few and far between examples of men written by women, and aspire to be what other men value rather than what women value.

Whisper · 2021-06-09T06:42:01+00:00

When men here aren’t misinterpreting what women say, their ideas of how women and dating ”should” work seems to come from entertainment created by men blah blah blah blah

That's because PPD is the shallow end of the pool. And you're in it with them.

EfficientComputer5 · 2021-06-09T10:33:52+00:00

The notion itself is ambiguous and seldom portray a consistent properties, it's really a theme people relate to and interpret in their own way which makes me generally avoid the issue. Especially, because if you don't hunker down on the actual ideas being discussed between both members and make them understood people just argue away on totally different topics.

Aside from that, I can't say I have ever watched these shows your referring to. Back in the good old days, if you had a single mother she beat you ruthlessly for any reason and demanded you worship females in every conceivable way. Any delineation away from the ultimate gentleman and provider could lead you beaten and locked inside of a closet.

I'm just pointing out that times change and issues like this are multifaceted. I know people watch that stuff but I could never stand it.

OXOzymandias · 2021-06-09T13:48:55+00:00

why you talk about nice guy so much tho?

i think at this point everyone agree that guys who say nice guys finish last are just people coping their lack of attractiveness, all around attractiveness...

Jonny2266 · 2021-06-09T17:23:21+00:00

In high school movies where the protagonist is a dork crushing on the hottest cheerleader that’s dating his bully, the star Quarterback. Then, at the end of the movie, the super hot girl realizes dork is better than her boyfriend, usually by showing he’s morally better.

Eh, no high school guy takes those seriously, but I suppose it is emblematic of the "nice guy" values society places on guys in part through media.

The harem is more accurate as being a Nice Guy wish fulfillment. The male protagonist is boring, bland, Socially inept, and yet a bunch of women are obsessed with him because he’s super nice to them.

I've watched quite a bit of anime, and virtually no guy gets their idea about dating and what women want from harem anime.The vast majority of nice guys don't even watch anime, much less harem anime which is extremely niche and, again, NOT taken seriously. It's a bit like suggesting playing GTA leads to gang violence.

xFallacyx69 · 2021-06-09T17:50:46+00:00

Any guy who has gotten laid a lot has done something that works over and over. As one of those guys, being nice/genuine/virtuous/buzzword-of-the-week is not on my list. In fact, it’s on my “avoid unless you want to be sexless list”.

So if I’m telling you this, and the guys who can’t get laid are telling you that being nice repels women like the plague… why is it that women are still SO intent on bringing up the argument?

I have one answer: Facts are wrong because it makes women not feel good.

towerofcheeeeza · 2021-06-10T12:29:48+00:00

But aren't harem anime just a representation of a fantasy? When you look at a lot of protags of such series, they're meant to be relatively normal, nice and benign so they can be self-insert targets for the primary demographic. So if guys are getting ideas of what is attractive or succesful from something like this that is made for them, as opposed to content made and marketed for women, there's going to be a disconnect and a problem. Unsurprisingly watching content made for women will give men a better idea of what women want than content made for men. I've watched a lot of harem-esque anime and most of the time I can't help but feel like some of the girls are too good for the male protag, and/or I find him annoying or boring.

manfrom-nantucket · 2021-06-10T20:44:16+00:00

I follow the cardinal rule of, "if it floats, flies or fucks" rent it. Saves a lot of time from whatever this shit is.

PM_ME_STRIPPERS · 2021-07-04T05:56:24+00:00

this isnt the mans problem for believing women. This is the womens problem for misleading and lieing to men.

Would you blame a woman for getting sexually assaulted? No, you wouldnt blame the victim, the same thing applies here.

Holler4Heller · 2021-07-08T18:33:29+00:00

I uh. Hmm. What if I told you that nerd was stronger and smarter than that cheerleader and thus logically worth more?

1Here4Bach · 2021-06-08T12:05:20+00:00

I just think many men have zero clue about nuance. A nice ugly man is going to get less play than a nice hot guy, a nice boring man is going to get less play than a nice exciting guy. This shouldn’t be a surprise to anybody but for some men it is. There’s so many other variables one takes into consideration when they choose a sex or relationship partner.

This phenomenon is even demonstrated by men. If they had to choose between an ugly nice woman and a hot nice woman they would choose the hot woman every time. Same thing with the boring nice woman and exciting nice woman.

Kind dudes get laid and in relationships ALL the time. If a man thinks he’s nice but can’t get a woman there is something negative about him that outweighs is perceived “niceness”.

cowfishAreReal · 2021-06-08T12:27:24+00:00

Not really. They just like being sexist that's all

PlayfulLawyer · 2021-06-08T13:42:55+00:00

I got my ideas from seeing them play out in the real life 🤷‍♂️

sunologie · 2021-06-09T09:43:45+00:00

And hint hint you aren’t a nice guy if you’re only being nice to manipulate women into having sex with you anyway :) and women know when you’re only being nice bc you want sex from us, that’s why it’s not “working” for a lot of male idiots. We know you aren’t nice you’re just lying bc you are trying to get laid.

Title	Men get their nice guy ideas from high school movies and the anime harem genre.
Author	LillthOfBabylon
Upvotes	192
Comments	454
Date	June 8, 2021 11:39 AM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/nv20vj/men_get_their_nice_guy_ideas_from_high_school/
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