The problem women keep having is thinking we can reason with or emotionally appeal to men like human beings. You actually have to train men the exact same way as you train dogs, with repeated word association to address simple concepts, queues to express displeasure, and then if they don’t obey, you withdraw your attention immediately and leave the room. I already know all the male hate lurkers are going to repost this comment as evidence of my RaGiNg MiSANdRy REEEEEE but you know how you are... and every time we have higher expectations of you than this then you’re quick to blame women when it goes wrong. Remember, how everyone was was going in on the woman who reported Aziz Ansari as a creep? So many people were mad at her like she should have known Aziz was too dense to respect her first no and expression of discomfort and that he was going definitely to keep trying it. A reasonable person would have just backed off - not try and put their fingers in a woman’s mouth or keep grabbing her hand and it putting it on his penis. Apparently she should have known it was preposterous to expect a man, especially a self proclaimed feminist, to understand this. This is pretty much the expectation we have of dogs and small children. It’s too much to ask them to back down nicely once and have them understand or expect them to read the room or respond to body language because they don’t have the capacity, much like men. I’d actually argue dogs and children get much better at this than men much quicker since you feed them so they learn to actively look for signals. So go into any situation with men assuming they’re about as dense as a canine and will need serious and repeated correction of boundaries. And if they’re just not getting it than you need to just withdraw completely.