Post your most controversial PPD comment

fizolof · 2015-03-16T20:16:56+00:00

I'd like to be a woman. I'd be pretty, and people would make an effort to talk to me instead of the other way around.

I still think it's true.

refutesstupidnotions · 2015-03-16T20:51:05+00:00

It may just be me, but it's not cool to rape cats, no matter how "consensual" their bodylanguage seems. Remember, meow means meow.

Me, mansplaining that cats shouldn't be raped.

namae_nanka · 2015-03-16T18:43:56+00:00

feminist relationships

The what now? Where are feminist relationships when poor feminits can't even get their wage gap bill passed, and you're talking of your father and grandfather having feminist relationships!!

Have you no sense of decency, Madam?! Why must you trigger the poor feminitss who might come upon your delusions?

https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2y485g/how_does_trp_explain_happy_feminist_relationships/cp64oq0?context=3

I was expecting the 'Marital rape is an oxymoron' though. Doesn't show up using the method you gave.

[deleted] · 2015-03-16T16:52:25+00:00

Because promiscuous women are sub par. They are more prone to infidelity, divorce (70% of divorces in the US are initiated by women), and paternity fraud. Promiscuous men are generally high value in a multitude of ways which is why they are able to be promiscuous.

Reginleifer · 2015-03-16T16:47:09+00:00

Guys being the more aggressive sex doing a spray and pray approach? Shocker.

Nobody is denying that catcalling happens..... you got to buy a ticket to win the lottery. But does it happen at the rate feminists say it does? Even their best proof so far (10 hrs walking NYC) only has a measly 2 minutes of footage.

That my friend is a percent of one percent of the time outside to put this into perspective...... for a fucking catcall.

If this were a tv show, the producers would go broke trying to sell this chick dick instead of 4 hours of AVON ads. >.>

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taiboworks · 2015-03-16T17:54:56+00:00

I think dread game is one of the most important things to utilize in a marriage. If she doesn't think you're valuable to other women then you will lose value subconsciously in her mind over time. It also prevents either of you from taking each other for granted if you both have high SMV.
That being said, there also needs to be some beta qualities in a marriage and she needs to know she's first in your eyes sometimes.

My personal favorite is when /u/Archwinger advocated for mandatory beating of women and BPers took it literally.

hyperrreal · 2015-03-16T16:44:28+00:00

http://www.np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1zpvi2/if_red_pillers_just_need_to_treat_women_like/cfvzkat?context=3

"I'm not sure you are addressing the core issue here, as much replacing one uninvestigated assumption for another.

When TBP says treat women like people, it means to treat them with the same regard and level of respect you treat a man as I described above.

You say:

Do you believe some men's behavior is an accurate representation of all men, or do you generally judge men as individuals? Do you generally afford most men some level of respect and benefit of the doubt, until he proves himself unworthy of your time and admiration?

One issue that tends to separate marxists/feminists and neo-liberals in whether or not groups or individuals have real agency. Or to put it another way, who is the real actor, discrete individuals or classes of people? The post-marxist approach is laid out well in Charles Tilly's Durable Inequality. Tilly calls the neo-liberal view, which you seem to endorse, atomism.

A core features of atomism, which marxists/feminists reject, is the assumption that prejudice (racism, sexism, etc) is fundamentally an individual phenomena. The feminist view is that sexism, for example, is the result of sexist social structures created by incentives on the organization level. This is why feminist are usually fighting for policy changes, institutional changes, etc, rather than going out and trying to change individual peoples minds. The pure marxist view is similar, accept classes and institutions are actors, not genders and institutions.

So in general, I think most leftist academics are comfortable saying, yes, men's behavior is generally representative of men's interests as a class, the 1% (in terms of wealth) will as individuals tend to act and think as a class, and so on with WoC, gays, etc. This is not dehumanization or objectification.

You seem to be saying, treating people like people, is treating them rational individual, actors. TRP does not really do this, therefore, you say they objectify and dehumanize women. In order to take this position, it seems like you have to say that feminists/leftists dehumanize/objectify women, which is absurd. Further, your argument appears to be founded on a neo-liberal assumption which is both far from certain, and according to many, is in fact the source of discrimination against women."

DaThrowaway808 · 2015-03-16T17:52:23+00:00

but but but sexist

adrixshadow · 2015-03-16T17:54:10+00:00

First result is just a flame war, not that interesting.

Second is much better.

Arinly · 2015-03-16T19:13:17+00:00

Trying to explain to TRP why people have relationships.

Fuck the internet really is a colossal waste of my life.

We_Are_Legion · 2015-03-17T10:25:28+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2h5rrz/women_are_not_adults/ckpqrak

The "most responsible teenager in the house" link is hyperbole. Intended to provoke those of RP's massive traffic inflows who can't read into self-filtering. Anyone who is unwilling to think outside of PC mores will click that link and go away. Most of those who remain will tend to comment in ways where we can ban them easier.

"The most responsible teenager" is clicked far far and ahead of anything else on the sidebar(they're mostly re-directs, they're measured). Basically, RP is more than willing to be hated to filter agenda'd SJWs and people who can't think. i.e. who haven't yet learned the difference between hyperbole and literal(and interpreting points from within hyperbole, something RP requires). . There is a lot of truth in it though. Most of which other comments have illustrated. I don't have time for my usual length posts today but I'll do one tomorrow or day after, just for you.

I stand by what I said.

taiboworks · 2015-03-16T17:01:18+00:00

Why is it a problem for women to have a "safe space" sub? Isn't the redpill sub a safe space for men? What's the difference?

This one apparently.

yasee · 2015-03-16T17:19:20+00:00

"A quick browse of TRP kind of gives the impression of a more concentrated, extreme brand of pick-up artistry (now with added sexism and shitty sci-fi metaphors!). Probably bumps it up a bit in the creep rankings"

(that's actually the second-most controversial; the first was just "you're welcome" with a smiley face because I guess schrodinger's sarcasm is a thing on the internet)

buartha · 2015-03-16T17:37:39+00:00

Apparently it's about Kaley Cuoco from The Big Bang Theory not being a feminist. So, basically my opinion of a woman that I know nothing about who's from a show I don't watch. It's funny the sort of stuff you end up commenting on here, eh?

Link for the interested.

How do you feel about Kaley's initial comments?

I don't know anything about this other than what you've presented here, but going from what you've said, she sounds like she just doesn't care about the politics of it either way, which is fair enough. She didn't say that women these days don't face inequality, just that she personally didn't, and she didn't say that other women should act in a certain way, just that she wanted to. Not everything has to be a teaching moment, and nobody should be forced to be a spokesperson for something they don't care about.

How do you feel about the Twitter backlash?

The twitter backlash sounds unfair, and I don't think she should have had to apologise.

Could you see yourself being close friends or valorizing a woman who chooses to dedicate her life to "taking care... (of) a male significant other?

I wouldn't have any problem being friends with someone who decided to stay at home if we had other stuff in common. I'd find it annoying if they talked about their partner constantly, but I feel the same way about people who don't shut up about their work, which I suppose is the non stay-at-home equivalent.

soylentblueissmurfs · 2015-03-16T18:12:38+00:00

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What is this?

ECoast_Man · 2015-03-16T22:34:02+00:00

I have a lot, because I almost always write for the sake of a good read than truth (exaggeration, etc). But according to a reddit it is-

And this is the crux. Good fucking point.

'My man does all the chores, works, etc and I yell at him about how he's not good enough for me, and we're happy!'

Yet the dude is basically living in terror and forced to jerk off in the bathroom when he's taking a shit or shower since he gets no sex.

Sounds fucking awesome, you go girl.

Context is my response agreeing with HHL that BP women over-report relationship happiness.

[deleted] · 2015-03-17T06:59:29+00:00

http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2rxzc2/the_lack_of_language_comprehension_in_trp/cnkci89

Arguing about semantics.

How fucking typical

M_rafay · 2015-03-17T10:15:58+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2s3r69/a_bp_view_trp_isnt_crazy/cnm9sum

My rape comment. I still think anyone who thinks all no's from women mean no is dumb. Not to mention, people who are sensitive enough to farm rape convictions from obscure text.

exit_sandman · 2015-03-17T15:22:32+00:00

"Don't forget the fact that actual victims have a higher response rate when these questions are asked."

When answering to /u/yaboitibzz who argued the veracity of "1 in 5 women at college are raped"-figures who were based on questionable surveys.

[deleted] · 2015-03-17T20:29:45+00:00

Short answer: When a woman does a thing, it's bad. When a man does a thing, it's good. You can replace "thing" with just about anything: be a single parent, have a career, get an education, have casual sex, file for divorce, travel, own a dog, manipulate their partner, abuse their partner, cheat, leave their partner for someone better, etc.

Uninspiring_Username · 2015-03-18T14:10:33+00:00

I'm not saying people who work in retail are stupid, I'm saying people in law and finance are incredibly smart and ambitious. If you are still in retail at 28, you aren't on a high-achieving trajectory. This isnt debatable.

Still true and I'm BP to my core

CursedLemon · 2015-03-16T16:39:55+00:00

Apparently it's this:

There is no system. Unless the system is be presentable, don't be awkward, and have your own personality/identity...in which case the TRP system is "don't apologize for your own existence". If TRP would just admit that it's not about finding what makes women tick, but about not being a hopeless sadsack in and of themselves, I think they'd make a lot more friends.

W_Edwards_Deming · 2015-03-16T18:46:34+00:00

Different women want different things. I am not telling you what you want, I am describing a way of looking at how women overall select mates.

There are other ways of looking at it which can also be valid. Some discuss women's menstrual cycles and their preference for masculine men when ovulating, others focus on how women in safe urban areas prefer effeminate men while women in dangerous regions prefer men with sharp, frightening features. There is also a dichotomy between a thin, rugged "love 'em and leave 'em" type that women prefer to get pregnant by, and a rounder stay-at-home / safe-around-kids type they prefer to raise their family and grow old with.

In any event, focusing on Alpha, Beta and Omega:

Alpha females only want Alpha males. They have high standards and they can reach them. They react to sexual displays from Betas and Omegas with aggression, but might choose to have secret (often reproductive) affairs with other Alphas despite maintaining a "monogamous" relationship with another (this was only recently discovered, previously they had been assumed to be strictly monogamous).
A Beta will only accept an Alpha or another Beta, and tends towards exclusive monogamy (and expects the same in return).
An Omega will accept another Omega, but would prefer a Beta (or an Alpha if they can get them). They will have (often not-too-secret) affairs with anyone who gets them aroused, regardless of their relationship status.

It is different for males, and for female-female relationships.

Sauce

Edit:

Sorry for leaving out the np. /u/AutoModerator, I have since edited to conform with your demands.

saltinado · 2015-03-16T17:25:04+00:00

I don't think it's just dumb insecure broads who fall for the asshole routine, but someone who doesn't like guys who are trying to be good people, well, they might not make it into my inner circle of friends. Now again, doormats aren't sexy, they're easy to ignore and dirty from the feet of a dozen people walking on them, but guys who are strong enough to carry both their struggles and those of a few other people, those are cool guys.

GridReXX · 2015-03-16T17:43:00+00:00

Apparently this:

But that seems like inner angst. Even the way you presented your comment. It sounds like the man is ashamed of himself for being a virgin.

My argument was that slut is a slur slung at women, whereas IRL I can't think of women disparagingly calling men a virgin.

A woman may not want to date a man because he presents himself unattractively, but she would have no way to know of said man's sexual history.

And if a man presented himself attractively, why would any woman even care if he were a virgin?

rulenumber303 · 2015-03-16T17:50:47+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/28apbx/would_terpers_prevent_a_possible_rape_if_they/ci984gc

How is TeRPer a slur?

[deleted] · 2015-03-16T18:51:13+00:00

Her satisfaction would only be lower if the man she is with doesn't measure up compared to the other men. It is her problem and her business. If there are no STDs she has no reason to disclose that information.

This was in regards to disclosing partner count/sexual history.

Phokus1983 · 2015-03-16T17:30:06+00:00

I have the same disgust of 'nice guys' that feminists do and i hope every alpha (redpill or otherwise) destroys them. Some of the men i've helped were former 'nice guys' who had their delusions destroyed by women who cheat on them or just being beta orbiters who never saw any romantic reciprocity and saw alphas sweep them off their feet in front of them. You can't build someone back up until you've broken them down. Roissy and other manosphere bloggers make this same argument and cheer on 'nice guys' being obliterated by alpha men. Nice guys are the flipside of the female slut: they're emotional sluts who give their affections way too easily and they're enablers of spoiled women. So in a way, feminists and the manosphere are kinda working hand in hand to bring more men into the manosphere. Nice guys should only exist in an imaginary just world, but since the just world is a fallacy, they should be wiped out.

wazzup987 · 2015-03-16T21:06:09+00:00

http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2r92vc/my_final_debate_trp_tbp_why_is_feminism_such_a/cndm10k

Well red pill can only see a certain type of women that responds to that.

Title	Post your most controversial PPD comment
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