Promiscuous women love to shame men for not wanting them. Instead, they should accept that they are undesirable.

PPD-Angel · 2018-11-26T18:45:34+00:00

This post is making an affirmative claim and will be retagged as a CMV. All top level comments must challenge the OP's view.

exit_sandman · 2018-11-26T18:41:16+00:00

Ironically, I've only ever been called a "slut" or a "whore" by men I've sexually rejected.

happycheese86 · 2018-11-26T19:12:51+00:00

How are these women fucking every man in sight if men think they are gross? Men are hypocrites.

LSTW1234 · 2018-11-26T20:07:21+00:00

I am a promiscuous woman who does not shame men who don’t want me and who does not lie about my sexual history. AMA.

SmurfESmurferson · 2018-11-26T19:15:04+00:00

The problem here isn't that this girl is a slut. It's that she was a bonafide sex worker - someone who had multiple partners, who made money helping men get off - who then lied about being a virgin

That sort of lying and manipulation is borderline sociopathic

That OP would be an idiot if he didn't dump her

Tedesche · 2018-11-26T19:27:32+00:00

I'm having trouble finding all the comments shaming the OP. Are they all at the bottom? I came across, like, one comment calling OP a hypocrite for liking porn, but not liking that his girlfriend was making porn, which is obviously stupid, but that was one comment, and all the responses were like, "are you serious? fuck off."

wtffellification · 2018-11-26T18:41:53+00:00

Women should lie and pretend they have never seen a penis before because that's what men reward.

Willow-girl · 2018-11-26T19:19:49+00:00

You are creating a false dichotomy that doesn't exist in real life. IRL, you give a man the best sex he's ever had, and he's not going to GAF what you did in the past, as long as you keep that shit comin'!

passepar2t · 2018-11-26T18:47:27+00:00

I'm usually not the first person to agree with AtlasBShruggin but dude, who gives a fuck about women's shaming language? If you hate sluts, avoid sluts, don't apologize and ignore their prattling.

mistresswhat · 2018-11-26T20:15:33+00:00

Men in general aren't nearly as fixated on purity as men here think they are. Like it's really not going to matter that much as long as you filter out conservative men, and even some of those are going to appreciate a freak regardless of what they might say when they're trying to one-up their buddies about the virginity of their future wife.

Men who are too fixated on purity are undesirable and should accept it instead of whining. No one's making you marry a slut, but yes, you're kinda uptight and displaying loads of red flags and people are going to judge you for it. If you're not keeping yourself pure for your future wife you're a hypocrite, and again, you should accept that people are going to judge you for it.

What you really want is to scream into the void about how gross the sluts are and not face any consequences for it. Interesting.

tannamel · 2018-11-27T03:05:09+00:00

Statistically, women who have been with many men are more likely to get divorced, feel unfulfilled in future “adult” relationships, and have communication issues. Obviously, it’s not like that for every woman. But I do think that promiscuity is promoted in our culture when it shouldn’t be, for both genders.

Mainly, it shouldn’t be acceptable because you’re at a higher risk for catching and spreading STD’s. Some turn into cancer, warts, or infertility so clearly that isn’t great. It also can lead to unwanted pregnancies and that’s a whole mess most people don’t wanna deal with when it’s unplanned.

I’m not gonna say promiscuous women or men are ALWAYS undesirable, but I believe they prima facie are undesirable. If I found out my current boyfriend had been with 15+ people and didn’t bother to tell me, I would honestly be grossed out and leave them.

trettles · 2018-11-26T22:47:32+00:00

From my observation, men don't care about sluttiness if a woman is highly attractive. The more attractive, the less her past seems to matter. That is on average. I get that some conservative extremists have different views, and that's ok. There's something out there for everyone.

I think what's really undesirable is the way men like the OP treat women. That kind of mindset is sure to turn off anyone. I hope you are open and honest to women about your views on this. Or do you hide them to come across as more palatable, like the women lying about how many partners they've had?

krishnoo · 2018-11-27T05:52:59+00:00

women want to monopolize the social space of acceptability because they feel like men have been ruling it for all this time while refusing any qualifications for patriarchy

Thswherizat · 2018-11-26T19:26:43+00:00

It seems really clear to me that the OP in that post has a very strong claim to end the relationship - based on the lack of honest and true communication between them. But that is completely separate from the issue you are describing, and I don't think it frames your argument effectively.

If I have a girlfriend who says she used to be a camgirl and has been around the block and then she turns out to be a virgin who was just trying to impress me, I'm going to be just as upset that she lied as if the situation was the other way around. Trust is absolutely central to a good relationship and lack of trust would always end a relationship for me.

What your argument lacks for me is any specifics as to why this is apparently only an issue for women. Why is a woman sleeping with more partners undesirable? You have no support for this statement. Your "crossroads" is a false dilemma, a woman can have a few flings and then decide that's not for her, or else have relationships but maybe has had a hookup or two. I think that it is reasonable to not be keen on your significant other's previous sexual partners. I doubt my girlfriend is keen on the idea of me having slept with other women.

You make a lot of claims about men not wanting to commit to slutty women and so on so forth. I think that if you are trying to date a woman who is intent on playing the field you're in for a bad time, but that's likely more because you want the control of a monogamous relationship and she might not.

I feel that the aspect of your view that needs to be changed is twofold:

1) That women who aren't virgins are somehow less desirable which is backed up by no facts nor logic,

2) That a woman has two choices, either to be a virgin or a slut, and that others get to make that distinction for her.

jazztaprazzta · 2018-11-27T15:00:43+00:00

I just want to say that I completely agree with your point of view. That's all.

Sluts are good for fun, but I'd avoid getting into a relationship with one.

Ironically, my first girlfriend (we were our firsts) became a mega-slut after we broke up and recently complained that she couldn't find a quality man to commit to her.

kandyapplez · 2018-11-26T20:30:49+00:00

do promiscuous women "love" doing that? for the most part i think they are too busy out being whores and living life to go around "shaming" people for not being into them, they have enough penis on their plate so to speak.

most of these discussions about promiscuous women are between two camps: A. undersexed, undersocialized men with misogyny issues and B. liberal feminist serial monogamist women who support whores on principle but have probably been with the same dude for a decade

Mr_Smoogs · 2018-11-26T18:44:20+00:00

This will almost never happen, so in an effort to maximize their hypergamy, slut shaming was born.

"Slut shaming" was born as form of birth control, not by women to maximize hypergamy. Your 14 year old daughter becoming pregnant and the guy running off could destroy you as a father and patriarch when your family already lives on breadcrumbs a day.

Thoughts?

Typical female entitlement. Women believe they deserve special non-judgmental or "the past is the past" treatment. "The past is the past" is only reserved for women regarding promiscuity and nothing else. Literally no person or establishment on the planet operates under this rule in anything else. Banks certainly don't.

Freethetreees · 2018-11-26T20:12:28+00:00

What are you madonna-whore complex dudes gonna do when literally EVERY woman is promiscuous? I can't wait for that day. Until then, I lie my ass off and pretend I'm an innocent girl who's only seen a couple* dicks ;)

olivethedoge · 2018-12-04T00:12:03+00:00

Here's my question. If a woman enjoys sex , participates in sex often and appreciates quality sexual experiences, why would you as a man automatically assume that she would not be satisfied in a monogamous relationship with you?

rainisthelife · 2018-11-27T05:58:46+00:00

Lol why should promiscuous women accept that they’re undesirable? Because some rando guy on PPD is aghast at the ‘injustice’ of a man wifing up a promiscuous woman? Lol! Hate to break it to you bud, but no one cares about your feelings. And people will always pursue what’s best for them, no matter what they’ve done in the past. Sluts get wifed up all the time.

If it benefits the woman to lie about it, then she should lie. Most of the time, it works much better than baring out all of your sexual history to the guy. Men lie all the time about money/career or their interest in pursuing a relationship, all in order to get sex. Besides, nowadays, most men don’t even ask and it’s always weird when one does. And women don’t lie and say they’re virgins, they usually just reduce the actual number.

[deleted] · 2018-11-27T02:01:49+00:00

Bullshit men won't commit to slutty women. An ex whore or even one that's still going strong has 100s of male options desperate to wife her up. Women need not worry about their past. Only seems like men need to be concerned about their own past.

NOTSM · 2018-11-26T19:22:15+00:00

After two months in the relationship, we began to get sexual and she shared that she had never had sex before (neither had I)

The problem here isn’t that promiscuous women are inherently undesirable, the problem comes from from two distinct issues. One being that little Mrs. I love filming gangbangs here made him wait two months the fuck, don’t be a slut for other men but a pride for your boyfriend. The second being that she repeatedly lo d to and attempted to manipulate her boyfriend.

If she had been sexual from the start and fucked her man like the pornstar she apparently is she’s have no problem finding a man willing to commit to her. Instead she lied to a sexual inexperienced man and treated him like a second class citizen in bed

Whodunnit88 · 2018-11-27T00:09:52+00:00

A promiscuous women can still be desirable. However to do that she has to present herself truthfully to her partner. She can't claim she's a virgin like OP's ex when there are pictures of her having sex.

Of course OP could be writing fiction.

admiral_snugglebutt · 2018-11-27T03:58:57+00:00

What about when men want to be sluts but not judged by women? Women are just looking for the same social allowances men already have.

Slutty women aren't undesirable because of some physical, material difference between them and prude women. It's all socially constructed. Men say "oh, it's just my reptile brain, it's icky". Reptile brain is just another word for "feelings I don't plan to work on or acknowledge".

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[deleted] · 2018-11-26T22:25:22+00:00

Self serving bias... a quite strong bias for women and men alike. Slut-shaming is but a concept from self serving women about self-serving men.

flamingoinghome · 2018-11-27T08:54:51+00:00

It's kind of ridiculous that you chose that story to supposedly make this point. That wasn't a story about a guy who found out his girlfriend had had a few ONS's back in the day and decided it made her undesirable. It wasn't a story about a guy who hooked up with a woman but didn't want to date her because she put out too easily (IMO, both those situations are dickish, and you haven't really addressed them).

No, this was a story about a guy finding out his girlfriend was a brazen liar with an entire Louis Vuitton luggage set of emotional baggage and potentially life-ruining revenge porn on the internet. That is SO WILDLY outside the purview of normal dating behavior for sluts, prudes, virgins, or anyone else that extrapolating on it is just stupid. Of course he was right to leave her if he couldn't deal with that kind of crazy. Fuck's sake.

tickledpic · 2018-11-27T03:44:31+00:00

Grow up child

Mr_White119811 · 2018-11-27T06:35:18+00:00

Its the lying I disagree with.

Ive known women with some pasts that some guys would call "slutty". Ive known women who have had pasts involving ddrugs and other things.

But they are honest about it.

If a woman lies however, then no, I don't trust her.

I think the issue however is that there are some guys who will b ethe opposite of me, they would rather buy the lies and bullshit and deny the truth.

[deleted] · 2018-11-26T20:42:14+00:00

Oh come on, you know full well what the problem is: Men's so called "insecurities".

Be a sexual being and fuck any and every guy she wants

Be a sexual being and fuck the top 20% of men in her area while consistently rejecting every other guy.
Move to new place once the clock hits and put on an innocent act to attract an inexperienced but socially and financially secure man. Who you wouldn't have dated in your early 20s.
Act surprised when he discovers you were promiscuous and took it in every position and hole from hot men, but he only gets once-a-month starfish sex.
Bitch around that he left you for being duplicitous and self-serving.

BONUS ROUND: I didn't even read the original post before writing this and I was right :P

Title	Promiscuous women love to shame men for not wanting them. Instead, they should accept that they are undesirable.
Author	_Neon_Shadow_
Upvotes	32
Comments	313
Date	November 26, 2018 6:38 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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