pumping and dumping male vs female

throwawaylessons103 · 2022-03-30T22:19:42+00:00

You're somewhat right about the double-standard.

But most of the time, I feel women are pretty forthcoming about wanting something casual. That, or it was a "in-the-moment" thing - y'all were drunk at a bar and she was rebounding to get over her ex, etc.

Men are often more likely to pretend they want a relationship to get sex, and then ghost so they don't have to explain themselves.

That's, IMO, what a pump and dump is.

MrMushySauce · 2022-03-30T22:07:08+00:00

What is the question? Yes people of both genders have sex and don't marry the other person

LotBuilder · 2022-03-31T00:39:36+00:00

For most guys… a pump and dump means the sex was lame. It is what it is. If a girl is good in bed we are coming back for more.

CocoBabeNYC · 2022-03-31T10:59:08+00:00

All the women here hopefully realize that by faking orgasms they are perpetuating a lot of bad sex habits and techniques? Please tell me you do realize that?

CatoftheBanals · 2022-03-30T22:17:03+00:00

There's no double standard. When it happens to a woman, the invariable first response men give is: "you weren't good enough for a relationship," with "good enough" meaning not attractive enough, too annoying, boring, whatever fits the narrative...they'll keep digging until they find a way the woman was lacking. Combine this with the fact that like 90% of the men on this site don't care (or say they don't care) if they get used for sex and I fail to see the "gotcha" here.

silkPJson · 2022-03-31T01:13:03+00:00

I guess it’s because women are stereotyped into wanting relationships while men just want casual so when the situation is reversed people get confused

SocietalEngineering · 2022-03-31T12:41:36+00:00

The missing datum here is: men are the gatekeepers of relationships, women are the gatekeepers of sex.

Women have no need to pump and dump, because they themselves are the decision makers when it comes to sex. Women do something else - pretend to be in a relationship with a man but never putting out sex. This is the “pump and dump” equivalent for a women.

chunksempire · 2022-03-30T22:15:06+00:00

Ha double standards all the time

Man doesn't want a woman with a high N-count = insecure.

Woman doesn't want a man who's a playa = smart don't invest in a cheater.

rosephase · 2022-03-31T00:47:43+00:00

It's a one night stand. One night stands can end up bruising egos. "pump and dump" is a stupid TRP and FSD concept so people have more reasons to be pissed at the gender they are attracted to. TRP and FSD want women to be sacred and hurt and not seek out one night stands. Which is why they have such negative and stupid terminology around the term.

You know who never gets pumped and dumped? People who only want sex out of sex... or you know, people who pursue one night stands.

Throwawaway314159265 · 2022-03-31T04:25:49+00:00

When it's a woman who ends things after sex it is NEVER referred to as a pump and dump. Invariably questions arise as to what did the man do to cause her to not want to see him again. Was he a terrible lover? Did he not take care of her needs? Was he not respectful of her boundaries? Was he a creep?

That's because women don't want the same things from men as men want from women from a macro perspective.

Men want sex, women want commitment. The male version of being pump-n-dump'd is the friendzone.

The friendzone is when a man meets a woman he wants to fuck and helps her out when she beckons (i.e. commits resources to her) and covertly expects her to make him her boyfriend and fuck him.

She of course knows this but continue accepting his resources and even flirt with him until he tries to make this contract explicit by making a move on her.

Then in order to make it seem like she is not the asshole, she offers up a "Let's just be friends".

You apparently were sexy enough for some woman who didn't want commitment to fuck, but for some reason she didnt want commitment from you nor did she want to see you again afterwards.

Aimeereddit123 · 2022-03-31T08:20:28+00:00

Women don’t walk around bragging that they do it, or make it a goal to do it. Usually a woman is disappointed or unhappy that things didn’t work out like she thought it would - even if it was her decision that it didn’t work out.

midwesternMD · 2022-03-30T22:23:54+00:00

Well from a strictly grammatical standpoint, generally it is the man that does the pumping.

I’m just being facetious. I do see the point you’re trying to make, and the double-standard in demonizing different parties for the same behavior is a little weird. But in a world in which women are effectively the gatekeepers to sex, it makes sense to demonize the man for pumping and dumping while giving the woman a pass for the same, with the implicit assumption that she dumped him because she wouldn’t want to have sex with him again, for whatever reason.

lowlifedougal · 2022-03-31T05:05:56+00:00

Yet another offshoot of an unregulated sexual market. Basically, you have options, you exercise those options, you compare the options and the process in which u weed out options is the pump n dump phenomena. The double standard serves to undermine the male sexual strategy in favor of the female. She can effectively contrast/compare sexual experiences, finances, social standing , genetics until she hits hypergamy optimization. However, The notion that her optimization point is unknown, distorted or inflated can undermine a female pump and sump strategy

StarchRunner · 2022-03-30T22:16:01+00:00

When it's a woman who ends things after sex it is NEVER referred to as a pump and dump. Invariably questions arise as to what did the man do to cause her to not want to see him again.

This is shit betas worry incessantly about, especially the ones that don't attract much in the first place.

I figure dating is like a net. Some escape, some stick around. You can improve yourself (tighten the net webbing) but escapes still happen a lot. Just how it works.

No woman is worth my time worrying why they didn't stick around, for the same reason I don't put stock in what people say and promise -- they change their minds all the time and are unreliable.

PMmeareasontolive · 2022-03-30T23:16:15+00:00

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CocoBabeNYC · 2022-03-31T01:10:20+00:00

It's not a pump and dump if there is no expectation of there being a repeat. A lot of men feel they need to lie to a woman and offer commitment in order to extract sex from her, hence why there is butthurtness afterwards. But in most cases men have already made the decision that they are not going back to the woman which is usually for one reason only. They don't really find her all that attractive or believe that because she slept with them easily, she must be a slut who does this with anyone and therefore had no standards, unknowingly committing a self own, because they consider themselves so worthless that they can't comprehend why a normal woman would like them.

And honestly, for a bunch of men who are on here crying that they haven't smelled pussy in years (or ever) and that they would take the first land whale to pay attention to them, you guys seem pretty keen on the idea that men reject access to easy sex so willy nilly.

MasterTeacher123 · 2022-03-31T02:56:19+00:00

Sometimes the girl is just trash at sex lol, it’s not that deep(see what I did there🙂).If she’s fire in the sack he’s not gonna think

“Damn bro, I never want to sample that again”

Now I’m not saying he’s gonna wife her but he’s not gonna disappear off the face of the earth.

lunafox999 · 2022-03-31T04:40:22+00:00

Sometimes the sex is very bad and there’s no connection.

TryLambda · 2022-03-31T07:55:38+00:00

It’s called the red pill…. Men are treated like disposable crap in modern society and blamed for everything

SwaySh0t · 2022-03-30T22:13:39+00:00

Most women who pump and dump ime usually caught feels too fast and would rather leave before getting left—a form self protection/preservation

I think more men than women pump and dump but for me I usually try to escalate to FWB or LTR if I’m really feeling her.

Lollerinos1000 · 2022-03-31T12:02:30+00:00

Men's sexuality is predatory. If a woman ghosts you it's because you werent doing enough.

rhumel · 2022-03-31T12:54:37+00:00

There are several situations where both parties engaged in sex freely, without asking for anything. Then the male just didn’t want anything more than that… and somehow he is in the bad. That’s not a pump and dump.

2022-03-31T02:10:09+00:00

It is not the same. Most promiscuous women look very average while most promiscuous men are very handsome and have above average looks. It is much easier for a average woman to have Sex with lots of good looking men, but very hard for an average man to have sex with lots f good looking women. Hell even getting average looking women is very hard these days. This is why women have much more responsibility when it comes to being promiscuous .

DrinkItInMan11 · 2022-03-31T03:41:44+00:00

Because most of the time for men it doesn't matter if they got pumped and dumped, they still had sex. Whether they kept the woman around is irrelevant, they still got laid. Men tend to emotionally bond with the person after sex less than women do to.

SmarmyPapsmears · 2022-03-30T22:05:51+00:00

Women rarely pump and dump because 90% of the time, they would date you if they're already fucking you

loke2dabrain · 2022-03-31T00:59:19+00:00

Women who "pump and dump" belong 2 the streetz

Fit-Faithlessness149 · 2022-03-30T22:01:34+00:00

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Physical-Pie748 · 2022-03-31T16:39:09+00:00

the reason for that is, because the men did win. he got what he wanted. most men want sex without commitment, if they get sex without commitment they win , because in most cases, the women are the ones who want commitment after sex. so its always the men who does the dumping, not the women. and IF the women dumps him, he also did win because he could get sex without commitment.

Lateralanouncer · 2022-03-30T22:22:01+00:00

One is being pumped, and the other is being dumped. Only a male simp will be concerned about how she felt afterward. He nutted; she got the nut, what else matters. If you didn't get the memo dating in 2020+

https://youtu.be/EtcC5S7hZpw

loganmacoy · 2022-03-31T13:20:49+00:00

Because it is usually men fault ... And women are rarely accountable for their actions

banjocatto · 2022-03-31T13:55:45+00:00

When it's a woman who ends things after sex it is NEVER referred to as a pump and dump.

It's never referred to as a "pump and dump" by other men. Maybe they don't understand the dynamics of the situation, or maybe their egos don't allow them to admit that women are just as capable of using men for sex.

localmicrodosechamp · 2022-03-31T23:12:59+00:00

>When it's a man that ends things after sex this is invariably called a pump and dump. The narrative is that he was using her, he's a player and has somehow wronged the woman.

bc men do this overwhelmingly? and more importantly its a big part of male culture to talk about how much you love sex with women but then to criticize those or all women in the same breath.

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dump_in_a_mug · 2022-03-31T12:40:28+00:00

Never been "pumped and dumped", nor do I believe that I ever did that to someone else. It's definitely happened to friends of mine before.

I did; however; go on a date with a guy who declined to tell me he was married. I never saw him again once I found out, and, fortunately, I never kissed or slept with him. Felt gross about it, though.

Title	pumping and dumping male vs female
Author	Fit-Faithlessness149
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Comments	97
Date	March 30, 2022 9:59 PM UTC (10 months ago)
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